(11-22-2015 01:41 AM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  Great video on immigration and how it doesn't really help anybody. hope it's not a dupe.

It was posted in an illegal immigrants thread a while back, surprised it didn't get posted in here yet.

As a citizen of a country which is directly infected by this invasion, I stopped reading this thread and most of the national media. The last weeks after comparing media with background facts and speaking to people who went there in person and told me about their experiences I'm just shocked how much we (as a society) are able to get influenced. It just makes me deeply depressed.

Here are two videos I'm recommending to watch to get a broad picture about the origins of the crisis. Take a look!

(11-22-2015 01:37 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  I see people are debating the whole expat thing.

It is not a dichotomy. Some people need to stay and fight, others need to be abroad to funnel money and support.

That's what Zionists did. They sent in settlers as political pressure while the rest of the diaspora got support for the project.

Being one who made all the possible arguments for leaving earlier on the forum, I have yesterday evening decided that I will stay.
I'm not reversing any decisions and with everything I have written before I made it clear that it's for the sake of discussion and that I respect people here regardless of what their plans in this situation are.

Don't hail me as a nationalist or condemn me for being stupid. It's everyone's unique situation that makes certain decisions smarter than others.

It's the result of a phone call with the one and only red pill family elder I have and the rationale behind it is this:

1) The best chances of surviving a serious, prolonged economic depression are here (we have the means to be almost 100% self-sufficient & community, trust and connections with neighbors will be more valuable than gold elsewhere) [doesn't apply to everyone, but it's worth to think about the scenario and whether your planned destination offers as good as a chance as your hometown]

2) I don't believe it's possible to predict where you can be safe at all in a WWIII scenario. So even though it might seem reasonable that Iceland is better than Germany, I wouldn't make such an enormous undertaking only to trade up a few % of perceived chances for survival which might get proven wrong down the road

3) I know what it's like to be foreign in a place which despises your origins/home country. I have been away from Germany for some years in a country which had suffered enormously under Nazi occupation and I know what it's like to be truly discriminated against. Some muslims here think we are terrible people because they can't get into nightclubs. The kind of discrimination you'd experience as a German in the 1990's was more like not being able to speak your mother tongue on the streets after darkness, getting spat on in public, being ostracized at the workplace and on rare occasions being chased and beaten.

So that was MY white privilege back in the days.

You never know how the mood of a population will shift in the future. And even though we make out Poland, Hungary and some parts of the East to be "red pill people" of sorts I think we need to remember, that it's not because they read Tolstoy after work and discuss political ideas on the weekends.
It's just the mood of the nation right now and that can go sour at any time. If their TV starts to push some kind of agenda against the West, or if WWIII is truly happening and your country is made out to be the villain you'll be as unsafe as anywhere.

Of course if you have serious money and you can afford to not hang out with the mob Hong Kong might really be the place to be in the future. But that doesn't apply to me and most people on the forum. With big money you can buy safety almost anywhere.

When real shit hits the fan no country will be exempt from the repercussions and I can imagine no worse place to be than far away from the people I grew up with, the laws I know and my family.


4) Aside from those two scenarios (crippling depression in which wheat becomes worth its weight in gold and the slow death of radiation after a WWIII) there is not much that scares me. In a muslim uprising and civil war I would do my part and show them what it means to have two world wars in your genes. (I'm not saying they aren't tough. I'm saying we aren't weak.)

A police state sure would suck but there I must agree with Krum. If they can take Europe that far they can take any island on this world that far. No point in trying to outrun globalization.

Yup. So that's it.

A noticeable sense of serenity washed over me when I came to that decision, which was interesting to observe.

May God be on our side.

No less do I wish everyone who decides to leave that they will be successful and that in the end everyone's decision will have been the right one, for themselves, in their situation.

Depressing but I lol'd

(11-22-2015 04:36 AM)corradini Wrote:  As a citizen of a country which is directly infected by this invasion, I stopped reading this thread and most of the national media. The last weeks after comparing media with background facts and speaking to people who went there in person and told me about their experiences I'm just shocked how much we (as a society) are able to get influenced. It just makes me deeply depressed.

Here are two videos I'm recommending to watch to get a broad picture about the origins of the crisis. Take a look!

Look at the facial expressions, listen to the tone of those being interviewed in the first video.

It's like they are thinking "Well, here I go, telling the obvious truth again for the 100th time, while no one who doesn't already know it themselves will listen."

They aren't trying to entertain, boast or convince. They are just sitting there, saying things that if taken seriously by governments would effectively change the entire world as we know it.

But they know it won't happen. So they don't even bother to smile or be especially convincing.

They are just doing their jobs now, because they know nothing else. They got into journalism, or started their charity thinking they will change things. Now look at them.

Compare that to politicians who effectively say nothing yet put on light-show of human expressions.

Wow. This world.

http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/22/video-show...s-5518390/

The Greek coast guard might have a secret policy of sinking some of these fucking boats.

From the Gates of Vienna:

Quote:After digesting a lot of information about the “refugee” crisis over the past four months, these are a few of the facts/deductions that seem important, but not often discussed:

1. The crisis intensified and accelerated in July and August. At that point the main route of the migration shifted from {Libya —> Lampedusa} to {Anatolia —> Greek Islands}.
2. The new and more massive flow was possible only because Turkey decided to let the smugglers’ boats get through. Before that they (the Turkish police and coast guard) had interdicted most of them. In the middle of the summer they stopped doing that.
3. The change in Turkish policy came not long after the first ISIS attack on Turkish soil. My inference from this is that Turkey decided ISIS was no longer a net plus (the Turks had previously been tolerating and even supplying ISIS, with their main target being the Kurds). A decision must have been made at the highest levels to open the floodgates so that the mujahideen would head for Europe, getting them out of Turkey’s hair.
4. A ferry strike in Greece cut off the flow completely for several days, so that traffic dried up at the border crossing from Slovenia to Austria almost immediately. ]This tells us that it would be easy to stop the refugees, and proves that they are being deliberately imported.
5. Migrants only walk about five to ten kilometers (three to six miles) during the trip from Lesbos to Austria, which is about 1,200 kilometers (750 miles) as the crow flies. The rest of the way they are carried by ferry, train, and bus. They pay nothing, but this is a very expensive trip. SOMEONE is paying for it.
6. Furthermore, when they arrive in Austria, they pay for purchases with 500 euro notes. SOMEONE gives them that money. They didn’t find it lying in the bushes in Serbia, or earn it back home. Not to mention the fact that these poverty-stricken people managed to cough up a hefty amount to pay the smugglers’ fees.

Here is another article from the Gates of Vienna about the Greek Ferries in relation to the Migrant Crisis.

Quote:For weeks the migrants had been coming across the border in a steady stream, thousands every day. And then suddenly the stream dried up.

Last week Greek maritime workers called a strike. The affected vessels included the ferries that regularly transfer “refugees” from the islands of Kos and Lesbos — which is where they are abandoned by the people-traffickers — to Piraeus and other ports on the mainland. From there they make their way through the Balkans as fast as they can — Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, and then on to Austria and Germany.

....

“Refugees” were stranded in their thousands on the islands of the eastern Aegean. And a few days later a funny thing happened —the flood of migrants crossing from Slovenia to Austria was reduced to a trickle. Normally the migrants are whisked through Greece, Macedonia, Serbia, Croatia, and Slovenia, presumably by bus and/or train most of the way (see this video). They move so quickly that the flow through Spielfeld stopped almost immediately after the strike took effect.

According to reliable sources in Austria, by Saturday November 7 — four days after the strike began — the number of refugees waiting to get through the border at Spielfeld had dropped from thousands upon thousands to about 250.

This puts the lie to the widespread assumption that the flood of migrants into Europe is coming in like a tide and can’t possibly be stopped. Greek ferrymen put a stop to the “refugee” crisis without any problem at all. If the ferries stopped running, the migrants would stop arriving in Europe. Yes, the Greeks would have to dismantle the tourist resorts and abandon the islands to the immigrants. But the tide would stop. The “refugees” left behind would have to eat seagull eggs and drink rainwater. The word would get out, and the boats would stop coming.

Nothing like that will ever happen, of course. The strike is now over, and the flood has resumed. The “inevitable” stream of migrants is once again pouring through Greece towards Slovenia, just like before.
....

One final note: consider the ferryboat shown at the top of this post. It’s from Blue Star Ferries, a commercial Greek line that plies the Aegean islands, mostly catering to the tourist trade.

But those aren’t tourists queuing up on the quay waiting to climb on board. And they’re not paying any fare.

But running those ferries from Kos and Lesbos to Piraeus every day is a very expensive operation. And someone is paying for it.

Just as someone is paying for all those buses queued up on the border between Macedonia and Serbia. And for all the trains carrying refugees across Austria and Germany. And for all those gigantic heated tents set up at the reception centers in various countries.

Someone is paying for it all, but who?

Another article from the Gates of Vienna examining the migration route.

Quote:What the Greek ferry strike highlighted was this: within four days at most, the column of migrants that began its journey at the port of Piraeus south of Athens had made its way to Spielfeld on the Austrian border, and then dried up. This tells us the rate at which massed groups of migrants have been traveling along their route. It shows that they covered about 740 miles as the crow flies — including heavily forested and mountainous terrain in the Balkans — in a space of just four days. If they stayed on the move for, say, sixteen hours a day, that means that they traveled at an approximate average speed of 740 ÷ (16 × 4) = 11.56 miles per hour. That’s an average, mind you, and it’s at least three times the normal walking pace of a non-athlete.

In reality, of course, the distance through the Balkans is far greater and the pace of travel correspondingly faster. Obviously the “refugees” are not walking most of the way from Piraeus to Spielfeld. They are in fact being herded onto buses and trains at their point of arrival in any given country, and then carried all the way across that country to the next one along the route. This video from Macedonia shows the process clearly on that particular leg of the trip.

I’m told that the total distance covered on foot by the average migrant between his landing in Greece and his arrival in Germany is somewhere between five and ten kilometers (three to six miles). He makes the rest of his journey using mechanized transport provided by the countries through which he passes, which is paid for by a party or parties unknown.

Yet the media use almost exclusively photos of migrants on foot, making it seem that they must have walked hundreds and hundreds of miles in a desperate attempt to get to Germany. And the news outlets also concentrate their attention on photos and videos of families with children, who form a small percentage of the migrant population, most of whom are young unaccompanied males.

Such is the “refugee” crisis: carefully orchestrated, organized, and managed by the Powers That Be in Europe and beyond, while being misrepresented as something it is not.

It is not a spontaneous bid by destitute people to reach safety.

And it is plainly neither inevitable nor unstoppable.

Norway's also under threat :

Two days ago, two Norwegian policemen were seriously wounded (at the throat, big surprise here) by a mysterious unidentified attacker...

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2015/1...nardes.php

And now, we learn that Norwegian borders are violated by... Pakistani migrants riding bicycles!! Yes, even with the cold!

http://www.leparisien.fr/flash-actualite...301491.php

5000 Pakistani have crossed, illegally and by bicycle, the Norway-Russia border this year!

They get a tourist visa to Russia, then go to the city on the Russian-side border, and end their journey on bicycle!

I mean: by boats to Lampedusa, by plane with false passports, by foot through Greece-Hungary, and now by bicycle (in Winter!) through Russia... they invade us by every possible or even unthinkable way! It's like they fuck us (Europeans) in ways we never even know existed! This is I guess enrichment, of sorts...

About Norway, still: There's been a massive uptick in sexual attacks happening nearby "refugees" centers, so much that the State had to impose mandatory sexual-awareness classes in those refugees-centers, to try and teach them not to rape...

https://francais.rt.com/international/92...ent-sexuel

"Linda Hagen, qui dirige 34 centres d'asile en Norvège a ainsi expliqué à The Local que ce programme avait vu le jour après une recrudescence d'agressions sexuelles aux abords des centres d'accueil où des immigrés abordaient de jeunes norvégiennes de manière agressive. Elle explique que de nombreux immigrés ne comprennent tout simplement pas les moeurs occidentales car ils arrivent de pays particulièrement conservateurs qui ont une approche obscurantiste de la sexualité, jugée «sale» et taboue.

«Imaginez ce qu'ils pensent lorsqu'ils voient une jeune femme qui danse en mini-jupe"

^^ Does Russia have no welfare programs or something so none of the migrants care to go there?

(11-22-2015 01:37 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  I see people are debating the whole expat thing.

It is not a dichotomy. Some people need to stay and fight, others need to be abroad to funnel money and support.

That's what Zionists did. They sent in settlers as political pressure while the rest of the diaspora got support for the project.

Yup, we'll set up a genetically modified breeding program to keep supplying Europe with some red blooded alpha males. The current generation of manginas clearly ain't cutting it.

Now seriously speaking that's what some of the ISIS guys are doing. Word has it they are sending back European female volunteers for breeding purposes. Why any woman would sign up for that escapes me... Meanwhile assholes like us get accused of 'manspreading' and 'white privilege'. Once again demonstrating that a nation's men need to keep its bitches in check.

(11-22-2015 12:55 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  ^^ Does Russia have no welfare programs or something so none of the migrants care to go there?

No free State-money or free healthcare or free lodging, for illegal migrants in Russia.

On the other hand, in neighboring Norway, migrants receive the biggest allowances in the World! Norway is even more generous(-stupid) with "refugees" than Sweden! So, word is out all the way down to Pakistan: Norway's the real hand-over paradise... migrants are entitled to up to 1500 USD per month, plus "accommodation paid by the State for up to five years", in Norway!

(11-21-2015 03:34 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 09:14 AM)Krum Wrote:  It is no surprise they call it Globalization
It's one rule, one system EVERYWHERE.

China is not a part of that system. In fact, very few if any non-white countries are. Our defeat lies in the fact that the fifth column in white nations resembles our native population. In non-white nations they cannot blend in and exercise subversion nearly as effectively.

Of course it is.
You don't think that the powers in West woke up one day
and decided to export 90% of their manufacturing base
in a communist countries for the fun of it, do you?

(11-22-2015 12:10 PM)Libertas Wrote:  http://metro.co.uk/2015/11/22/video-show...s-5518390/

The Greek coast guard might have a secret policy of sinking some of these fucking boats.

Ha, I read this

Quote:Amnesty International has also viewed the footage, and said it was ‘profoundly concerned’. It has now urged the Greek authorities to launch a ‘prompt, thorough and impartial investigation into the incident’.

Not sure why Amnesty International thinks it's someone other than tha Greek authorities ordering the migrant boats to be sunk. Greece was trying to corner the market at being the beggars of the EU, but the migrants have taken over that role this year.

Just saw this little gem of Norwegian soldiers from Afghanistan, with our talk about paganism to unite the Europeans. Seems like those who can actually fight haven't forgotten their roots.

(11-22-2015 01:24 PM)Krum Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:34 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 09:14 AM)Krum Wrote:  It is no surprise they call it Globalization
It's one rule, one system EVERYWHERE.

China is not a part of that system. In fact, very few if any non-white countries are. Our defeat lies in the fact that the fifth column in white nations resembles our native population. In non-white nations they cannot blend in and exercise subversion nearly as effectively.

Of course it is.
You don't think that the powers in West woke up one day
and decided to export 90% of their manufacturing base
in a communist countries for the fun of it, do you?

Yes - China is of course under the same powers as in the West. But it finds itself under a different agenda for the time being. Also the people have different mentalities about so-called tolarence towards Muslims. It will not have any of the Western problems.

Also - nice find Quino - migrants are being transported and no one is walking 1200 miles within a few days. This entire invasion costs hundreds of millions or even billions. My guess is that the taxpayer in each country is paying, but someone has given the order all across Europe to do so incl. Turkey.

Who has such a unilateral power over all countries to simply order Turkey to stop policing the borders and then have Greece and European EU and non-EU countries pay for their transportation? You really have to marvel at their creativity there.

(11-22-2015 05:01 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(11-22-2015 01:24 PM)Krum Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:34 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 09:14 AM)Krum Wrote:  It is no surprise they call it Globalization
It's one rule, one system EVERYWHERE.

China is not a part of that system. In fact, very few if any non-white countries are. Our defeat lies in the fact that the fifth column in white nations resembles our native population. In non-white nations they cannot blend in and exercise subversion nearly as effectively.

Of course it is.
You don't think that the powers in West woke up one day
and decided to export 90% of their manufacturing base
in a communist countries for the fun of it, do you?

Yes - China is of course under the same powers as in the West. But it finds itself under a different agenda for the time being. Also the people have different mentalities about so-called tolarence towards Muslims. It will not have any of the Western problems.

Prosperity breeds corruption.

The Chinese society was flourishing under Qing Dynasty
and so the English manage to corrupt them with opium.
The same is happening now,
they are adopting western style of life
and even have their own obesity epidemic
It's greater than 20% in cities and growing.



It won't be long before feminism gets established too.

(11-22-2015 01:06 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Norway's the real hand-over paradise... migrants are entitled to up to 1500 USD per month, plus "accommodation paid by the State for up to five years", in Norway!

Curse my white skin... I would be all over that shit.

(11-22-2015 05:34 PM)Krum Wrote:  Prosperity breeds corruption.

The Chinese society was flourishing under Qing Dynasty
and so the English manage to corrupt them with opium.
The same is happening now,
they are adopting western style of life
and even have their own obesity epidemic
It's greater than 20% in cities and growing.



It won't be long before feminism gets established too.

Not sure if Chinese children or Japanese sumo wrestlers

(11-22-2015 06:56 PM)username Wrote:  Curse my white skin... I would be all over that shit.

That reminds me of that:

Quote:Of almost 300,000 migrants passing through Croatia, only 10 have claimed asylum, with not a Syrian among them. Where are they from?

So far, ten people have applied for international protection in the Republic of Croatia. There are five Iraqi nationals, two Cubans, and citizens of Gambia, Sierra Leone and Russia, who came to Croatia with the migration wave from Serbia.

Cubans!

(11-22-2015 01:24 PM)Krum Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 03:34 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 09:14 AM)Krum Wrote:  It is no surprise they call it Globalization
It's one rule, one system EVERYWHERE.

China is not a part of that system. In fact, very few if any non-white countries are. Our defeat lies in the fact that the fifth column in white nations resembles our native population. In non-white nations they cannot blend in and exercise subversion nearly as effectively.

Of course it is.
You don't think that the powers in West woke up one day
and decided to export 90% of their manufacturing base
in a communist countries for the fun of it, do you?

No, it's not. I live here. The decision to offshore was made almost entirely for simple profit seeking. China is not controlled by some shadowy globalist cabal. This kind of thinking is inane. There are no Rockefellers with "trillions" under the bed. You can talk about that all you want and the worst that will happen is that people will think you're a kook. Ask yourself what is the one group you cannot accuse of conspiring when you're in polite society and that is your answer. And they do not control China.

Great video about the anti immigration marches in Warsaw (with English subtitles).

At 4:08:

-Can you see Poland waking up?
-I lived abroad for 15 years and I have seen what's going on there, I don't want that for my daughter. What they are saying on TV that they will assimilate is propaganda, it's a lie.

Also funny that the only person who's in favour is the gay dude at 5:21 saying immigrants will pay for pensions.

Nice video about the idiocy and complete betrayal of the political elite

(11-22-2015 12:47 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Norway's also under threat :

Two days ago, two Norwegian policemen were seriously wounded (at the throat, big surprise here) by a mysterious unidentified attacker...

http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2015/1...nardes.php

And now, we learn that Norwegian borders are violated by... Pakistani migrants riding bicycles!! Yes, even with the cold!

http://www.leparisien.fr/flash-actualite...301491.php

5000 Pakistani have crossed, illegally and by bicycle, the Norway-Russia border this year!

They get a tourist visa to Russia, then go to the city on the Russian-side border, and end their journey on bicycle!

I mean: by boats to Lampedusa, by plane with false passports, by foot through Greece-Hungary, and now by bicycle (in Winter!) through Russia... they invade us by every possible or even unthinkable way! It's like they fuck us (Europeans) in ways we never even know existed! This is I guess enrichment, of sorts...

About Norway, still: There's been a massive uptick in sexual attacks happening nearby "refugees" centers, so much that the State had to impose mandatory sexual-awareness classes in those refugees-centers, to try and teach them not to rape...

https://francais.rt.com/international/92...ent-sexuel

"Linda Hagen, qui dirige 34 centres d'asile en Norvège a ainsi expliqué à The Local que ce programme avait vu le jour après une recrudescence d'agressions sexuelles aux abords des centres d'accueil où des immigrés abordaient de jeunes norvégiennes de manière agressive. Elle explique que de nombreux immigrés ne comprennent tout simplement pas les moeurs occidentales car ils arrivent de pays particulièrement conservateurs qui ont une approche obscurantiste de la sexualité, jugée «sale» et taboue.

«Imaginez ce qu'ils pensent lorsqu'ils voient une jeune femme qui danse en mini-jupe"

Just how many invasion fronts are there now? Four?

1. Battlefront West: Iberian, north African and Canary Island Spain;
2. Battlefront South: Malta and Italy
3. Battlefront SE: Greece and Bulgaria
4. Battlefront North: northern Scandinavia

Perhaps a fifth theater of operations is the various airborne landings by soulmates in civilian airlines.

Canada's President Zoolander will only be allowing in women, children and families. So no unaccompanied men basically.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/can...-1.3330185

smart move, if you are going to *have* to let refugees in (they dont have to really)

But, this is the same guy who insisted on a 50/50 gender split in his cabinet because "It's 2015":





So to recap, fair representation at the top for women, skewed representation at the bottom in women's favour.
The feminist-led apex fallacy in a nutshell.

(11-23-2015 09:44 AM)frenchcorporation Wrote:  Canada's President Zoolander will only be allowing in women, children and families. So no unaccompanied men basically.
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/politics/can...-1.3330185

smart move, if you are going to *have* to let refugees in (they dont have to really)

But, this is the same guy who insisted on a 50/50 gender split in his cabinet because "It's 2015":





So to recap, fair representation at the top for women, skewed representation at the bottom in women's favour.
The feminist-led apex fallacy in a nutshell.

The useless Left has started to understand what I wrote here :

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-51882...pid1155286

about this global shift in people's feelings, desires (for order and security) and voting patterns.

So, the lying Left is adapting his discourse, cucking hard. Same thing happens in France with Hollande (apparently, and belatedly) adopting tough (cuck-tough actually) measures against crime.

It's not good news, because it means that the SJW-Left will steal votes, good-people's votes, by appearing to have some sense into them...