"Europe’s fear of Muslim refugees echoes rhetoric of 1930s anti-Semitism"
Can you guys tell me where to find the posts responding to articles like these? I know I have seen them here before but I've looked and can't find them. I started on page 1 of this thread and went to 25 and still can't find it.
@PainPositive Look up 'cognitive traps'. This one from the WP is a completely false analogy. The media do this regularly, they present something like slavery for instance and try to draw a comparison with something like 'gay marriage', in so doing they suggest that the persecution of blacks in slavery was on a par with the mewling of the narcissistic attention whores of today.
No comparison whatsoever as all of us on this forum knows but for the average Facebook dweller, they see the headline and they go "Ohhh my God! Yes, it's true!! My two gay friends and that lesbian chick I used to work with are being discrimated against like the blacks in slavery!"
It's amazing how many people fall for BS narratives like this all the time.
^^^ It's unreal how insane these comparisons are. Gotta call bullshit right away.
I'm still not sure how a political ideology and recipe for totalitarian theocracy like Islam with an enormous following in the billions managed to shoehorn into Jewish identity politics but the Not All X argument is powerful for the retarded SJW crowd.
They're implying that if we do nothing, we're Nazis, and furthermore - by extension - if we capitulate wholly and unquestioningly in our hand-in-hand cultural autogenocide it makes us good people.
Now the US is not under that much of a threat compared to Sweden, but who really knows where politics will be going in the years to come.
(11-18-2015 05:33 AM)The Beast1 Wrote: Honestly the biggest problem with Europe is misinformation. A lot of the folks i've dealt with here in the UK are so woefully misinformed it is staggering.
I had a debate with my room mate about how unsafe Europe is becoming. I told him that the importation of 3rd world trash will fracture and destroy Europe's socialist utopia. He insisted that only a few countries around the world have traditional genders roles to which I responded by laughing. To make matters even worse, he was saying they should be allowed in because of all of the American wars going on in the middle east, again to which I replied that there are many many muslim majority countries they can go to which they refuse.
It's little things like this where I just question the intelligence of europeans. It's almost of a head in the sand type of behavior.
The kicker was when he insisted that nowhere in the UK you can legally own a pistol, to which I said you can legally own a pistol in northern Ireland. He was insistent about the ban applying there, to which I put my hand out and said 10 pounds put your money where your mouth is. At this point he backed down and I pulled up the law allowed pistol ownership in Northern Ireland.
I was under the impression europeans are well read and aware. So far it seems that they're pretty darned ignorant.
ramzpaul talked about this just the other day:
Most people will follow the narrative of the time, whatever that narrative is. The present narrative just happens to be incredibly destructive. Change happens with surprising speed, and it's orchestrated only by a few. The rest just follow the winner.
So don't be surprised or discouraged at this, even though it's difficult.
A lot of the people supporting this are just old fucks. The young as we saw are all flocking to Le Pen, etc.
Even in Donald Trump's rally in Tennessee the other day, a huge amount of that crowd was comprised of young people.
This is just more crap by the 68'ers. They are old and weak. The world is ours if we fight.
"However, the surviving militants are able to roam the jungles of Basilan and Jolo islands, counting on support from local Muslim communities."
The disrespect from the Bosnian and Turkish fans, just one amongst many examples of late, reinforces the idea that many Muslims simply don't care what ISIS does and some may support them, whether directly or indirectly. Letting in countless Muslim "refugees" when there are plenty of poor and homeless in the US and Europe (Many veterans being apart of the poor and homeless group) is insulting and shameful. It may also lead to continued Islamic terrorist organization advances. The next few years will definitely be interesting to see how things go.
(11-18-2015 07:58 AM)Hades Wrote: ^^^ It's unreal how insane these comparisons are. Gotta call bullshit right away.
I'm still not sure how a political ideology and recipe for totalitarian theocracy like Islam with an enormous following in the billions managed to shoehorn into Jewish identity politics but the Not All X argument is powerful for the retarded SJW crowd.
They're implying that if we do nothing, we're Nazis, and furthermore - by extension - if we capitulate wholly and unquestioningly in our hand-in-hand cultural autogenocide it makes us good people.
Now the US is not under that much of a threat compared to Sweden, but who really knows where politics will be going in the years to come.
I think what the WP is trying to infer is isn't so much that Europeans are Nazis as drawing parallels to the non-Nazi West being culpable in the Holocaust by turning back Jewish refugees from Palestine, Britain and the US in the lead-up to WW2. The idea that we are repeating history by falling, once again to the Bystander Effect in turning our back to the plight of the poor, hapless, defenceless refugee. For where is the Christian charity of Love Thy Neighbour that we like to preach when it's most in need, the parable of the Good Samaritan that the West likes to hawk as a social responsibility towards the less fortunate worldwide?
That meme is currently doing the rounds on Facebook:
The Righteous Gentile is currently being exhorted of the West again.
"Europe’s fear of Muslim refugees echoes rhetoric of 1930s anti-Semitism"
Can you guys tell me where to find the posts responding to articles like these? I know I have seen them here before but I've looked and can't find them. I started on page 1 of this thread and went to 25 and still can't find it.
Jews, jews, jews, have these people no shame? They literally can't stop talking about themselves even amidst the worst terrorist attack in a decade.
(11-18-2015 07:45 AM)amity Wrote: @PainPositive Look up 'cognitive traps'. This one from the WP is a completely false analogy. The media do this regularly, they present something like slavery for instance and try to draw a comparison with something like 'gay marriage', in so doing they suggest that the persecution of blacks in slavery was on a par with the mewling of the narcissistic attention whores of today.
No comparison whatsoever as all of us on this forum knows but for the average Facebook dweller, they see the headline and they go "Ohhh my God! Yes, it's true!! My two gay friends and that lesbian chick I used to work with are being discrimated against like the blacks in slavery!"
It's amazing how many people fall for BS narratives like this all the time.
I've been seeing this nonsense article got passed around:
Yes cause accepting guys like Albert Einstein who was already a world famous scientist and Nobel Prize winners is the same as accepting Syrian refugees.
@Wutang In the interests of maintaining my sanity and not being exposed to too much horse manure like that article you linked to just now, I came off Facebook a while back.
You probably already know that trying to logically debate stuff like this with people on Facebook is almost always a complete waste of your time and energy.
What you could do instead is 'agree & amplify' when people post pro-mass invasion memes or posts.
It can be a surprisingly effective way of opening peoples' eye just a bit to the madness we're seeing.
People tend to respond better to a message delivered with humour, even if it's a message they disagree with.
French President Francois Hollande Welcomes Refugees Despite Paris Attack
Quote:French President Francois Hollande today promised that “France will remain a country of freedom,” defending his decision to honor a commitment to accept migrants and refugees despite Friday’s deadly terrorist attacks in Paris.
“Life should resume fully,” Hollande told a gathering of the country’s mayors, who gave him a standing ovation. “What would France be without its museums, without its terraces, its concerts, its sports competitions?
As predicted. Also, I reported a few pages ago how France will be shutting down Schengen but still letting in refugees.
Western Europe is literally becoming an open-air prison camp where the lawful citizens have lost all their rights, and the new invaders can come and go as they please, commit crimes as they please, no matter how violent they become.
This is a true dictatorship rising right now. Elections suspended. Citizens cannot leave without going through a lengthy process (soon to be closed off forever to stop capital flight).
The native Europeans are effectively slaves. They must pay exorbitant taxes so invaders can be given free everything, plus a stipend, which is then spent by the invaders to purchase weapons and commit crimes because welfare is not enough. And Western Europe will be more than happy to oblige them.
I can only imagine at how many murders, rapes, and robberies have already happened since this summer. It's already probably in the tens of thousands but you'll never hear about it, like the holodomor or Armenian genocide.
(11-18-2015 05:33 AM)The Beast1 Wrote: Honestly the biggest problem with Europe is misinformation. A lot of the folks i've dealt with here in the UK are so woefully misinformed it is staggering.
I had a debate with my room mate about how unsafe Europe is becoming. I told him that the importation of 3rd world trash will fracture and destroy Europe's socialist utopia. He insisted that only a few countries around the world have traditional genders roles to which I responded by laughing. To make matters even worse, he was saying they should be allowed in because of all of the American wars going on in the middle east, again to which I replied that there are many many muslim majority countries they can go to which they refuse.
It's little things like this where I just question the intelligence of europeans. It's almost of a head in the sand type of behavior.
The kicker was when he insisted that nowhere in the UK you can legally own a pistol, to which I said you can legally own a pistol in northern Ireland. He was insistent about the ban applying there, to which I put my hand out and said 10 pounds put your money where your mouth is. At this point he backed down and I pulled up the law allowed pistol ownership in Northern Ireland.
I was under the impression europeans are well read and aware. So far it seems that they're pretty darned ignorant.
ramzpaul talked about this just the other day:
Most people will follow the narrative of the time, whatever that narrative is. The present narrative just happens to be incredibly destructive. Change happens with surprising speed, and it's orchestrated only by a few. The rest just follow the winner.
So don't be surprised or discouraged at this, even though it's difficult.
A lot of the people supporting this are just old fucks. The young as we saw are all flocking to Le Pen, etc.
Even in Donald Trump's rally in Tennessee the other day, a huge amount of that crowd was comprised of young people.
This is just more crap by the 68'ers. They are old and weak. The world is ours if we fight.
Yes. The Bobo Boomer New Left: May 1968 to November 2015
"Europe’s fear of Muslim refugees echoes rhetoric of 1930s anti-Semitism"
Can you guys tell me where to find the posts responding to articles like these? I know I have seen them here before but I've looked and can't find them. I started on page 1 of this thread and went to 25 and still can't find it.
Jews, jews, jews, have these people no shame? They literally can't stop talking about themselves even amidst the worst terrorist attack in a decade.
THAT is how you should respond.
Can they also not say something like, "Migration didn't work out too well for the Palestinians who have been dispossessed and bathed in white phosphorous under the protection of the US' UN veto bought from the best congressmen than shekels can buy".
Cuckservatives might think it
John 7:13 Wrote:But no one spoke openly of him for fear of the Jews.
how 0.2% of the world (or less than this because all Jews are not involved in the meltdown) can have such a grip over the US and therefore Europe is nothing short of amazing.
Nice vid by an analyst who calls this "engineered coerced migration" where the elite is using the victims of globalisation and promoted wahhabism to destabilize another nation thus causing more victims of globalization. Migrants are being used as a weapon here.
In the end only a tiny ruling elite will profit from it:
- I watch the news sometimes and see Cameron and Hollande speaking about how we need to bomb ISIS in Raqqa. There are still buildings for them to use? If they were truly our enemy as you say so then why are any buildings left standing within 100 miles of their HQ?
Same goes for the US air campaign.
- I hear EU leaders bleeting like sheep about ISIS and then see them allowing hundreds of thousands of men into our countries who for the most part are more susceptible to murderous ideology than native born people.
Being led by idiots is one thing, allowing them to open to gates and punishing those who dissent is treason.
(11-18-2015 06:06 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote: - I watch the news sometimes and see Cameron and Hollande speaking about how we need to bomb ISIS in Raqqa. There are still buildings for them to use? If they were truly our enemy as you say so then why are any buildings left standing within 100 miles of their HQ?
Same goes for the US air campaign.
- I hear EU leaders bleeting like sheep about ISIS and then see them allowing hundreds of thousands of men into our countries who for the most part are more susceptible to murderous ideology than native born people.
What are you proposing? Bombing "any buildings left standing within 100 miles of Raqqa"?
Are you serious?
Because what you hope for and propose, would cause about.. 2.300.000 deaths of civilians.
Yes, 2.300.000 civilians live in "various standing buildings" within 100 miles of Raqqa (Alep and its suburbs included).
Your post is an unusual mix of a monstrous, outrageous advice (let's bomb'em all: why are any buildings left standing within 100 miles of their HQ?), and then some measured, toned-down statement : "men who for the most part are more susceptible to murderous ideology than native born people". Strange.
Just watched some of the videos above. I can't believe how bad Merkel has done with this situation when she was before always considered such a good leader. I think all of the Europeans are just brainwashed so much all through school without any real diversity or experiences with other cultures that they somehow accept the current migrants. Unbelievable as an American that lives in Germany. I saw a fox news discussion with O'Reilly and Kris Kristie and they were up in arms over 75 Syrian migrants in New Jersey that came in the last year. And I could barely keep from laughing that's probably what Germany averages in 10 minutes.
The Righteous Gentile is currently being exhorted of the West again.
When did they do the survey? 1938? 1940?
If they did it in this century, or after WW2, then I will happily call bullshit and call it propaganda. The Jews already have their nation state, with closed borders, walls, fences, etc...
What do they want to achieve from a superfluous survey like that? They already have the most powerful nation in the world by the balls, what more do they want. Or am I missing something