(11-15-2015 04:49 AM)GetPhat Wrote:  

(11-14-2015 03:54 AM)BossOfBosses Wrote:  Peep game and learn. Here's a brother getting crazy good IOI's from (mosty white) chicks:

This doesn't say much. There was 4 girls in the videos so it is a very small sample. You also have to remember that all YouTube videos about picking up girls, regardless of source, are all edited in a way to make it more favorable. They never show you how many "bad" reactions/interactions occurred to get the "good" reactions we actually see. I'm guessing 1 in 20 were good enough to include in a clip.

I gamed with this guy before. Regarding the video, don't take it at face value.

(11-16-2015 03:30 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  That's their experiences. They are lucky they're all over 183cm but they have different personalities. The elderest is the black entertainer, the second elderest is the tall,dark,handsome mysterious type and the youngest is the horny,bad boy. I mention them to prove it's possible. Not one of them are rich or famous. None of them are sports players or muscians. None have bastard children...I hope.

Isn't the whole "tall dark handsome mysterious" type a white archetype.

Ya it's a white guy type^.

(11-14-2015 02:59 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  Djemba,

Whens the best time to go to Varna? We need some bulgarian intel, nahmean?

One of these days I'll drop a comprehensive Varna and possibly Eastern Europe datasheet.

I haven't done so yet because there's already lots of eastern Europe info floating around.

(11-16-2015 04:08 AM)OrangeKnight Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 03:30 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  That's their experiences. They are lucky they're all over 183cm but they have different personalities. The elderest is the black entertainer, the second elderest is the tall,dark,handsome mysterious type and the youngest is the horny,bad boy. I mention them to prove it's possible. Not one of them are rich or famous. None of them are sports players or muscians. None have bastard children...I hope.

Isn't the whole "tall dark handsome mysterious" type a white archetype.

What does it matter?

That description describes me, although I am not that tall (5 feet 11) lol

Back to the hot black women topic. I find a lot of them have a weakness for a tall black man, any of you run into this?

The few times that I have had success with these types, is when I positioned myself as the unique brotha. My travelling stories always gets them going, I can see the wheels in their brains spinning. Where does this guy get the dollars to travel to these places. Telling them tales of how I travelled to X country by myself shows them I am a man of adventure. This I find works with all types of women.

I am very curious about Latin America, I am convinced there are a few diamonds down there that need to be excavated. Diamonds as in "Black" diamonds. When I lurk on Latin America Cupid, I see a disturbing trend with the black women listing themselves as mulatto or mixed. The self hate runs deep I guess.

The black women on Excelsior's thread bring tears to my eyes. If you Yanks got girls like that then you need to get your game in order. NO Excuses!!!!!

Message to the trolls - I coach a lot of cats (Black, Asian, White, Chinese). Moma and I would be happy to coach you.

Speaking of emigration

Would any of you permanently leave your home country?

For those of you that have, would you recommend it?

WIA, I have done it twice and have zero regrets. My nature makes the process easier though

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Back to the hot black women topic. I find a lot of them have a weakness for a tall black man, any of you run into this?

It's everywhere. Them damn Nigerian brothers are messing up the game! I would go by Jubril if I thought i could get away with it.

I'm 5-10 5-11, chicks that are 4'11" respond to these 6'2" cats. A chick that is 5'8" needs a D1 ball player.

Workout, groom thyself and dress well. Plus you need the verbals.

The other thing is to placement. If I'm out for a sister, i avoid 99% black events. Too many fishing poles in the same pond. The tall dudes attract attention, average height guys have to fight through them cats to spit.

But typically the flyest chicks only go to all black events.

(11-16-2015 12:54 PM)Moma Wrote:  WIA, I have done it twice and have zero regrets. My nature makes the process easier though

I need a more portable skillset.

Archie, I know you were mentioning about coding which can lend to one having that mobile lifestyle. We will be discussing that on an upcoming podcast.

WIA, I have done it once and it was an experience that changed me. The little I know about you, I would say it would be a hard move for you. I say that because you seem like a man who enjoys different things in your spare time. (Hotep meetings, concerts and hip-hop venues etc)

I will list the Negatives that I experienced, when I re located back to the UK. Which you wouldn't think would be a big deal.

Food - plain and simple the food in the UK sucks. Good food is very expensive there and the variety is lacking. Yes, there is good Asian food due to the large Asian(Indian) population living there. Depending on where you live in London, you will have to travel to get good Jamaican food.
Do you really think you are going to find plantain or peas/rice in Eastern Europe!!! Hope you like pork if you are heading there.

Gym - this may not apply to everybody. This maybe a bit harsh, gym culture is very much a North American thing. Good gyms are expensive in the UK, some European countries you will have to scout hard to find a decent gym.

Weather - Can you handle a month without no sun? Can you handle rain everyday for a week? Lack of sun really took a toll on me, us black folks need that vitamin D. Even in Canada, we still get plenty of sun no matter what time of year.

I could list a few other things here, but those are the main ones.

Now for the positives.

Women - there is obviously an inbalance when it comes to women across the globe. I think a lot of guys under estimate what it means to be an American, when you travel. Most people around the globe have watched American movies or listened to American music, which is usually Black music. When people think of America, they envision money, big houses and big cars. After all, doesn't everybody in America live like that!

So what do you think will happen, when you step to a chick in foreign country X and ask her "where the local pet store is".

Foreign Chick: I am not sure, I think there is one a couple of blocks away. I can walk with you.....
Rudebwoy: Oh that would be really nice of you (in my best humble pie voice).
Foreign Chick: Where are you from?
Rudebwoy: Oh take a guess?
Foreign Chick: Well you sound American.
Rudebwoy: Wow, you are good.
Foreign Chick: What brings you here?
Rudebwoy: I have a buddy that works with the Embassy or I heard this country is beautiful and I thought I would pop over for a few weeks and take some pics.
Foreign Chick: Oh so you are a photographer.
Rudebwoy: No more of a hobby.
Foreign Chick: So what do you do in America?
Rudebwoy: insert BS job here or fake job etc.

These type of scenarios play out all the time when I travelled across Europe. Once you get with these women, they will assume the role.

My last serious ex, would bring me breakfast in bed. Oatmeal cooked in a pot with just the right amount of brown sugar added. My clothes washed and pressed if I asked nicely. A manicure on a regular basis, a few times in the bathtub while we took a soak. Of course I would return the favour and give her a good back massage. She made the effort to cook, I was the better cook and she did the dishes. Lunch for work was always made for me.

Damn, I miss her.

Good Luck getting that treatment in the West.

I am also weighing up another overseas move.

I'm 6'4" and I do very well with college aged black women. I really don't go out of my way to talk to ones that are older than 25 as I've had such a good experience. I use a very similar strategy as Rudeboy in which I talk about my travel experiences (most brothers aren't stepping foot out of the US) and try to find some common ground in how we grew up.

I really haven't gotten a handle on the +25 year old black chicks. Not sure what it is but as of now my game isn't calibrated for that age group yet. Inconsistent results by far.

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Message to the trolls - I coach a lot of cats (Black, Asian, White, Chinese). Moma and I would be happy to coach you.

Do you have bootcamps or just private coaching?

^Private Coaching for now.

(11-16-2015 01:55 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Back to the hot black women topic. I find a lot of them have a weakness for a tall black man, any of you run into this?

It's everywhere. Them damn Nigerian brothers are messing up the game! I would go by Jubril if I thought i could get away with it.

I'm 5-10 5-11, chicks that are 4'11" respond to these 6'2" cats. A chick that is 5'8" needs a D1 ball player.

Workout, groom thyself and dress well. Plus you need the verbals.

The other thing is to placement. If I'm out for a sister, i avoid 99% black events. Too many fishing poles in the same pond. The tall dudes attract attention, average height guys have to fight through them cats to spit.

But typically the flyest chicks only go to all black events.

That has been my same experience.

My edge is when I dress, chicks think I am "foreign".

Speaking of fashion, I am in the market for a shawl collar velvet Tuxedo jacket. I missed out on this Hugo Boss one last year, any ideas?

@Mentavious, paradoxically older chicks want more when they offer less.

Younger chicks are cool with a good body and a nice rap. An old broad needs you to be able to afford a house of her choosing.

She got ran through when she was tight, but now she want to dictate instead of take dick.

The upside to an older chick is that in my experience, they don't hem and haw over the pussy and Daqan n'nem have taught her right. She should have skills. But the challenge remains in bringing out the Lethal Lipps when you want it, but Michelle Obama/Clair Huxtable for the rest of the time. More often than not you get Hallie Berry.

WIA

@Rudebwoy

Something like this?

http://us.suitsupply.com/en_US/jackets/t...l?q=Tuxedo

^Damn you are good.

I know that store from London, they have been in Toronto for a few months.

Guess I know what I am wearing NYE.

What are yall dressing like when you go out? Post pics of your style. Do you try avoiding styles that get associated with typical "Urban" Black men?


For me, I like wearing nice shoes (you would be surprised how often you complimented by men and women when wearing nice shoes), fitted button ups, jeans.

Just want to chime in and say how much I appreciate this thread. The podcasts are excellent and several of you guys are dropping a lot of knowledge. I just had a couple of comments:

(11-11-2015 11:44 AM)Anabasis to Desta Wrote:  Unless a girl is a straight-out Nazi, there is 0 chance she will reject you for the color of your skin. She might not want to date you, but she'll definitely fuck you if she finds you attractive.

I think this is actually precisely the problem for many of the guys coming in here. They want to be the guy those girls date, and they can't be.

Why would you want to be that guy? There could be a variety of reasons.

Some guys have done the hookup thing often and picked up dozens of notches, but tire of the short-term game and would like to get a longer-term thing going with an attractive girl. They find they get success regularly enough when it comes to short term hookups with these women, but they also find that these women never really want to take it further than that and this frustrates them. They can keep going out and trying to pick up new short-term hookups, but at some point they'd prefer to just have a pretty girl on lock for a while. If they're around a lot of white and asian girls, they find that's tough to do.

Other guys are just guys that aren't great at getting hookups or simply don't enjoy them even when they are competent enough to manage it. These are the kind of guys that genuinely want to date girls and they look the part of a relationship-oriented guy, even when they try not to. They give off a nice, stable, boyfriend type of vibe to girls who look at their appearance and are hoping to find an experienced, carefree cocksman looking to slang no-strings-attached dick for them to very discreetly enjoy in the short-term.

The incongruence creates issues and leaves a lot of these guys in no-mans land with women because they immediately clash with the typical woman's view of them - she just thinks he's cute and wants to try absolutely nothing more than a short-term fling nobody ever finds out about, while he daydreams about going on dates with her and what kind of girlfriend she could be. Their personalities are too provider-like to facilitate short-term hookups, but they're too black to date seriously and be seen regularly with in public. When these guys see their white and asian peers with the exact same personalities/preferences (and not a significantly higher level of game, looks, wealth, etc) get positive responses from those same women and actually enter relationships with them, the frustration increases. They know their race is a factor, and can lead to them concluding that they're just less than (which, in turn, can create the inferiority complex we've all mentioned in here).

Those are the dynamics that I've seen in the urban northeastern USA, at least. Mileage may vary by locale.

I'm not unfamiliar with these problems on a personal level, having dealt with them personally and known several others who've done the same. The solution is never easy - it takes a lot of focus, discipline and mental conditioning to keep these issues from completely sinking you on a personal level. A lot of guys are sunk before they reach that level of focus, discipline, and conditioning.

(11-09-2015 12:48 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  The other day I was with a LTR on a date. She's average weight, not chubby. I was ordering drinks, and the girl serving our table was thick, close to borderline fat. No joke that bitch gave me a boner. It isn't the first time a thick ass broad has me turning my head, even as I'm with a thinner cuter girl.

The question that started floating around my head was; are certain people simply predisposed to liking them thick? Are so many brothers fucking fat girls not so much because they are picking low hanging fruit, but rather it's what gets the dick hard?

I'm inclined towards the idea that brothers who bang fatties do so because they legitimatetely like them.

This is one of the biggest myths going, and I don't think any black male should do anything to perpetuate it. It furthers the notion that black men are the garbagemen of the mating world, expected to take out the scraps that nobody else wants or would be expected to deal with. This notion has spread widely over the years and is taken as a given by many (ex: "Bro, these girls are fine but what about the fat friend? No way any of us would are getting on that - but hey, let's introduce her to our black friend, he'll probably like her!" - says the group of white and asian bros as they sort through a group of potential suitors. The fit girls in the group are for them, of course - the black guy takes out the trash so they can be isolated, and he's expected to enjoy it).
It is this kind of thinking that has higher value women thinking twice about associating with some black men and lower value women feeling entitled to them (ex: fat and/or old chicks expecting fit black guys to get thirsty around them and catching an attitude when it doesn't happen). I don't like it.

Black men are not disproportionately messing with fat chicks because this is what they prefer. Black men are just like other men in that they favor women who lack guts and don't sport particularly high levels of body fat. Those are the women they would choose if they had an option.

Black men are ending up with fat women because those are simply the women they can get, and they accept that state of affairs and rationalize it (he wants to think the best he can get is good enough for any other man) or simply choose to proactively make the best out of it ("I mean yeah she's fat, but...the head's real good. And her ass and titties are big!").

Men are practical creatures: they generally take what they can get, and what they get is usually what they can afford and access. Black men in the USA are disproportionately under-educated, broke, and under/un-employed (this is to say nothing of the anti-black animus that permeates this country and has been mentioned extensively enough in this thread to warrant my not going into too much detail about it here). As a group, they don't have much going for them and are not in high demand, which is why they disproportionately end up with women who are themselves not in high demand. They most often cannot afford or access women who are in higher demand.

It is this simple. For many a black male in America, fat chicks are often the only consistent options for regular sex. Fitter girls and the particularly desirable "slim-thick" cuties that they probably all dream about simply aren't on the table for them. They want them as much as everyone else and would take them if they could, but they cannot have them.

If these men had more options and could afford/access more women who lacked guts/mountains of cellulite and weren't shaped like peaches, they would do it. Were such a state of affairs to come online tomorrow, you'd see a mass exodus of negroes from the fatty realm.
Alas, we're stuck in reality, and in reality fat girls are often the best a black American male can do if he wants to get laid consistently. As I said before, dudes take what they can get. This is practicality, not preference.

(11-17-2015 12:36 AM)Iso Wrote:  What are yall dressing like when you go out? Post pics of your style. Do you try avoiding styles that get associated with typical "Urban" Black men?


For me, I like wearing nice shoes (you would be surprised how often you complimented by men and women when wearing nice shoes), fitted button ups, jeans.

When I go out I dress similar to this.



The game changer though is the Pocket Square. Dark jeans, Blazer, Pocket square, Crisp AX tshirt or custom made white spread collar button up is all I really need. When I really want to turn heads I will throw in a lapel flower.

My style wasn't developed when I was in the States, so I'm curious to see how this will play in my favor once I go back

(11-17-2015 03:12 AM)DMario Wrote:  

(11-17-2015 12:36 AM)Iso Wrote:  What are yall dressing like when you go out? Post pics of your style. Do you try avoiding styles that get associated with typical "Urban" Black men?


For me, I like wearing nice shoes (you would be surprised how often you complimented by men and women when wearing nice shoes), fitted button ups, jeans.

When I go out I dress similar to this.



The game changer though is the Pocket Square. Dark jeans, Blazer, Pocket square, Crisp AX tshirt or custom made white spread collar button up is all I really need. When I really want to turn heads I will throw in a lapel flower.

My style wasn't developed when I was in the States, so I'm curious to see how this will play in my favor once I go back

That's fresh as hell. I usually just rock out with a light dress shirt and slacks.



I try and go as casual as possible. Obviously I don't tuck in the shirt.

(11-16-2015 12:24 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Back to the hot black women topic. I find a lot of them have a weakness for a tall black man, any of you run into this?

I think it's more in the lines of a hot black girl having a preference for a tall black guy that isn't all thuggish like. Being a tall black guy doesn't mean the black girls will like him, he still needs to bring the goods to the table. There isn't much options for a hot black women to pick from so when there's a hot black guy that isn't all ghetto they'll latch onto him.

This is why I did better with them because I played d1 football and they thought I might possibly make it to the league (there wasn't a chance that I would get drafted but because I played on the team they just assume I might play in the NFL after college). I never saw any of the hot black girls with the brothas that weren't athletes.

@Il Bers - that's me on the daily. Puts a lot of burden on having a good shirt.

@DMario - that's probably an ideal look. Jacket does the work andv allows for accessories

@Iso,

Day to day/Work ( Day game) dress shirt and slacks. But i should be wearing a proper jacket instead of the bomber jacket or track jacket i typically wear. My office is do damn hot that getting properly dressed is pointless

Out for the night, similar to DMario, more emphasis on earth tones.

Date, newer shirt

WIA

Man dressing with style has made such a difference everywhere I go.

Recently Went out to posh nightclub here in Berlin with my LTR. They had reputation for not letting minorities in. I was dressed to the T in slim fit dark purple pants, White polka dot slim fit shirts (on sale Zaras), brown dress shoes and scarf/jacket (inspired from WIA in fall thread). They acted like I was a celebrity walking up, guys said welcome and unlocked the hold line for us. Inside the club I was getting eye fucked by damn near every girl in there(Every guy claims this haha). My girl was getting super jealous. Her friends got rejected entry. On two separate occasions chicks even tried to dance with me while I was dancing with my chick.

-CD