Post: #26

I've had to shit in the backyard once, the toilet broke the night before and had to be fixed. This shit came on fast and there was no possible way I had time to drive somewhere to do it. I ran out to the backyard, took a shit and then dug a hole and buried it with the shovel.

No fucking way was that enjoyable, and that was beside a shed where nobody could see, I couldn't imagine someone WANTING to shit in public.

Post: #27

(10-31-2015 04:22 PM)Slim Shady Wrote:  GTFO of here with "this is cultural". Most of these people are dirt poor and do it because of necessity and lack of toilets not because they want to shit on the streets.

I would disagree with it being a necessity. You can at least dig a hole and fill it in afterwards. Unless the entire country is paved with impenetrable concrete, I can't co sign that...

Post: #28

(10-31-2015 07:31 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Would Bang

Post: #29

(10-31-2015 05:15 PM)Oz. Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 07:31 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Would Bang

Would poo on outdoors.

Post: #30

(10-31-2015 05:41 PM)Kabal Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 05:15 PM)Oz. Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 07:31 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Would Bang

Would poo on outdoors.

She's probably pretty comfortable with traveling to Dubai

Post: #31

(10-31-2015 04:18 PM)Moma Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 02:31 PM)DjembaDjemba Wrote:  India is overpopulated and tropical. It's difficult to industrialize tropical regions.
It's even more difficult to deal with waste.

The biggest challenge of the 21st century won't be the Europe migration or any demographic shifts, it will be the industrialization of the Indian subcontinent and Sub-Saharan Africa.

Between these two regions, that'll be 3 billion people who will drive cars, consume a tenth fold energy than they do now, eat more meat and proteins, and just as importantly, they'll produce far more waste than today.

Cleaning up the cities and not shitting in public is step one, but there's still far more work to be done. The economic development of India is not a zero sum game, the whole world will benefit from an industrialized India (And SS-Africa).

Djemba, do you think the hygiene issue is case of crowding or more of a cultural thing?

Both. There's the culture of poverty carried by the rural peasantry into the burgeoning cities. It's happening all across the developing world. Urbanization without proper planning is creating massive slums with no sanitation. "When you gotta go, you gotta go."

This happened in Europe too. London had slums right up until World War II.

Post: #32

Djemba, you are very right. London had a lot of filthy pigs (and still does). To be honest, in comparison, I actually find the Americans much cleaner than the Brits. I remember when I was about 12 and some dude from school..he had a dog in his flat and the dog doo doo on the carpet and dem lot in no rush to get rid of that.

Also, a friend of mine was in a pub in West London somewhere and there were a bunch of yuppies in the toilet taking a number two. The dirty sods finished blazing the porcelain dish and got up and went right out to their pints without even washing their hands.

Post: #33

I made a thread on that^^

Post: #34

Human feces might have been an efficient source of fertilizer.

Centuries ago, they had to scoop livestock waste for fertilizer. Then they probably had to build a separate sewer system for their own waste. Why not kill two birds with one stone? Use their own waste as fertilizer.

This smart use of resources probably became customary over thousands of years, so people forgot why but still remember how. So even with less agricultural lands and more concrete areas, they still do it as habit.

The British and Americans also urinated into their dirt grounds. This urine turned into gunpowder, which turned into an empire:

"Gunpowder is a mixture of sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate that must be combined in specific ratios. While this sounds simple enough, it must be remembered that in 1775 the state of chemistry was rudimentary. Potassium nitrate itself is a compound of nitrogen and potassium, neither element of which had been identified at that point in time.[2] What they did know was that what they called “nitre” was needed, which, in some recipes, involved soaking soil in urine from both animals and humans, and then allowing it to dry. The dried urine-soil was then boiled to produce saltpeter. Not all recipes agreed with this method which added to the problems in making gunpowder. Unfortunately this required half a year or more to produce nitre-bearing soil and created a bottleneck in the production of gunpowder in America."

Source: Gunpowder & Urine

Humans are geniuses. It's the right mindset, just used in the wrong era.

Check this guy out:

Post: #35

^ The problem with human feces is that you cannot simply shit in the field. Human crap needs to be specially fermented and prepared to make it a worthwhile fertilizer. Also in our current times due to the shit we eat, then our shit isn't hot stuff either.

It spreads way too many diseases and unprocessed human shit is found in Indian food everywhere - even if you buy it in the cities. This is not good. To use it, then the farmers would have to eat only natural things and then shit into special systems, where the crap can ferment and be processed. Also it would have to be used as a fertilizer long before plants start growing, so that enough time passes for all residue to be absorbed. Using cow dung as fertilizer is much easier.

Also human urine can and should be used as a fertilizer, but that is because urine is actually clean while feces are not. You only have to mix urine with enough water and it's a perfect nutrient for plants. The same cannot be said about human waste.

And yes - Europe was pretty filthy up until recently.

Though nothing beats this Toronto woman in a night club:

Post: #36

(10-31-2015 01:25 AM)captain_shane Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 07:31 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 09:05 AM)NO_LIMIT_CRACKA Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 01:31 PM)kbell Wrote:  Speaking of poo videos... I don't think it works that great personally.

(10-31-2015 07:31 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

I've learned to never underestimate the RVF brotherhood's ability to respond to weighty international and domestic topics with nuance and sophistication.

Post: #37

(10-31-2015 01:05 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The living standards actually were pretty bad until the 1940-50s in the West. Everyone having access to clean water, water toilets, plentiful food, canalization - all of this eliminated sicknesses even a decade or two before the first vaccines came out.)

Are you sure?

Post: #38

(11-01-2015 02:47 AM)Suits Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 01:05 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The living standards actually were pretty bad until the 1940-50s in the West. Everyone having access to clean water, water toilets, plentiful food, canalization - all of this eliminated sicknesses even a decade or two before the first vaccines came out.)

Are you sure?

Yes - I am sure. Bullshit articles like that prove nothing.

I studied that topic in detail. Did even talks on it to parents. I would stake my life on it. There is a huge number of dissenting MDs (3 Nobel price winners publicly) who are against the practice.

I will probably post a major thread on it on my 85 page presentation with hundreds of links. My presentation is based on science and as objective observations as possible - only MDs and other scientists' opinions and data was taken into account.

There are some topics I feel 100% secure about:

+ Red Pill is real
+ Game is real
+ Interest free economics with demurrage money politics is by far superior to any other economic model
+ Vaccines are a medical error that people will laugh at in the future
+ the germ theory even is overstressed - "the basis is everything, the virus is nothing" - Antoine Bechamp - actually the one who did the experiments before Pasteur

But I don't want to go into the topic here.

It's about shit here:

Post: #39

"designated shitting streets"

Am I the only one who burst into laughter? Imagine high placed government officials in India sitting around a table and one of them saying "But there has to be a solution for this problem of everyone shitting wherever they want!", everyone talking and making noises and then all of a sudden someone stands up: "Designated shitting streets!", followed by a silence and then loud joy and everyone clapping, "Brilliant!".

Also in that picture, do they shit on a piece of paper and then roll the paper around or something? Where do they put it?

Post: #40

(10-31-2015 04:32 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  It's illegal to shit in the open in all civilized countries. You get a fine for it. So they should do the same in India. But I guess due to the sheer number of people doing it, a shit-free-everywhere party might emerge.

Yes, one might even say that it's a literal.... shitfest

*ba dum tss*

On a more serious note, topics like these really make you appreciate the innovations of the 20th century. My grandparents, both of whom were kids in the 30s, also shat outside. But there was a huge cultural difference even back then, before all the technology we have today and modern plumbing. While both of them lived in the same era, the same country and same poverty, my grandfather, who was from a more *primitive* part of the country, shat in the woods along with his entire family and wiped his ass with leaves. My grandma, on the other hand, who was from more *enlightened* parts had a normal outhouse and wiped with newspapers. My grandma's family also had a heated room in the house used for bathing, while my grandpa just washed in the creek.

It's not that Indians are forced to shit in the streets because they have no other options. It's just the conflict of mentalities. People could have also been clean and hygenic 500 years ago without all the stuff we have today.

Post: #41

They wipe with their left hand (no paper). Right hand is for eating.

Now I wonder... How do they handle food before eating? With only one hand?




You can see in the video a guy taking a shit in the beach. He wipes with his bare left hand.

Post: #42

Some cultures are hygienic, some not. For example, the Romans had flush toilets, the Aztecs and Vikings were fanatical about hygiene, while the medieval and early modern Europeans were less so. So it's not a racial thing or even a technological thing, just that in different times and places certain practices take over the culture, for better or worse.

Certainly hope the Indians improve things, they're alone in the modern world with this backwards hygiene.

Post: #43

(10-31-2015 06:40 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I made a thread on that^^

Please point me in the direction of it, bro.

Post: #44

Shit, shit, everywhere... Looks like that country needs more Civil Engineers and fewer Electrical Engineers.

Post: #45

Gypsies and Indians in Germany shitting sometimes not in the toilet, they shit into the hallway. Those refugees shit often on the streets. There are cases. So every time someone say to me, its because they are poor and not educated its bullshit to me.
Especially when you already life in a house, why shit into the hallway? Even if you are poor and have no education, you don't shit where you eat and live. I guess their are mental retarded.

I mean these people also just throw their trash outside the window too. This I can understand when you are from a country with to trash system. But shit in the hallway of the place you live?
I was in India, it was the worst travel of my life. Such a dirty country.

Post: #46

Most new strains of multi-resistant bugs come from India and Pakistan and these people travel from there to Europe.

Post: #47

(11-02-2015 03:31 AM)Parzival Wrote:  This I can understand when you are from a country with to trash system. But shit in the hallway of the place you live?
I was in India, it was the worst travel of my life. Such a dirty country.

I've seen people collecting trash and burning it. That was in some very very remote area in Latin America. It's not eco-friendly but better than letting trash accumulate in the streets.

Remind me of a joke:
- Hey Pajeet, how old are you?
- I'm dirty (thirty) and my wife is dirty too (thirty two).

Post: #48

All this reading about shit makes me want to take one now.

Post: #49

This could actually be a good business idea for kids:

Post: #50

(10-31-2015 01:20 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(10-31-2015 01:14 PM)xpatplayer Wrote:  Please wise sir, tell us more about the infinite wisdom and insight /pol/ and Stormfront have given you. Please tell us more about the 'advances of civilization', and your anthropological observations of these Indians.

For real, when did RVF turn into a moderated 4Chan?

It's not that bad. Political correctness is bullshit. Guys are just forgetting the even recent European history and think that what can be seen in rural India won't change due to some racial mystical fixing.

This infatuation with race as a full-determinant of all human behavior is not healthy. (Despite the fact that there are tendencies of races, but that does not make a civilization.)

Perspective is a funny thing.

I was dating a European Girl visiting Oz years back and, one day, discovered her squatting in the laundry sink, cleaning herself.

She explained she was horrified by how filthy and unhygienic Australian's were based upon our lack of bidets.

I said I got why she was doing it, but, "Why didn't you just use the bathtub?"

Now I've travelled more, I think she's right. They're so damn obvious in function that the lack of one seems both idiotic and gross.