iknowexactly, the idea that people are actually becoming more intelligent is not a foregone conclusion. But even if it were, surely you as someone from an academic background must be aware of the tremendous amount of corruption and distortion going on there. I have a family member who is a professor who has published dozens of peer-reviewed papers in influential journals and know very well that most of the success in that field is achieved by political and networking work rather than actual research.

(10-23-2015 09:24 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  iknowexactly, the idea that people are actually becoming more intelligent is not a foregone conclusion. But even if it were, surely you as someone from an academic background must be aware of the tremendous amount of corruption and distortion going on there. I have a family member who is a professor who has published dozens of peer-reviewed papers in influential journals and know very well that most of the success in that field is achieved by political and networking work rather than actual research.

IQ definitely has improved over time in the West around 2-3 points per decade.

Personally I think that superior food, clean water, better pregnancy nutrition, more stimulation during childhood - was mostly responsible for that. We somehow seem to be forgetting that most folk in the Western world up until the 1920s or 1940s even lived terrible lives of poverty and destitution. The WWI recruits in the UK on average grew about 3 inches, because those young men tasted meat almost every day for the first time in their lives. In 1914 there was still child labor in Europe as well as in the US!

But what the report does not mention is that the IQ is tanking since the mid and late 1990s in many Western countries.

Fact is that the African continent and the Muslim world almost as a whole did not progress in term of IQ advancements. The post on birth defects concerns IQ just the same, because most sub-optimal birth complications do not manifest via defects, but simply via lower IQ, weaker immune system, weaker physical body, greater mental instability. Thus all those claims by the backwards British Pakistanis that "everything is fine with them" is just bollocks.

We increasingly find ourselves in a world where 70-85 IQ folk live with 110-120 IQ folk and not even decades of growth will be able to breach that gap.

Thus the results of the current drop in Swedish PISA tests:

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/ju...-education

Quote:'It's a political failure': how Sweden's celebrated schools system fell into crisis

Quote:Sweden: Pisa performance
PISA Scores from 2000 to 2012

Definite drop.

Quote:Pupil performance
Average merit rating in year 9
Girls | Boys | Total

Notice the major discrepancy between boys and girls despite the fact that boys are 5% smarter and their aptitude for learning is by far greater. The feminized anti-male school system is to blame for that crap.
Also I don't know that the internal merit rating means in Sweden since the results are tanking - maybe how to be a good brainwashed citizen.

Of course the article is pure mainstream bullshitting tip-toeing around the issue. Here what one director for a successful private school had to say:

Quote:She says the decline in Sweden’s schools has nothing to do with the introduction of free choice or the emergence of independent schools. Hamilton quotes research by the IFAU, the Swedish Institute for Evaluation of Labour Market and Education Policy, which suggests that results had started to drop even before the changes. “The free schools are not the cause,” she says.

The drop in results had nothing to with the legal changes, which essentially paid everyone any kind of education. I can bet that the successful private schools have simply rigorous tests and don't take in any migrant kid who is not up to standard.

We know from schools in Germany as well as in the US that unruly school behaviors of some students then carry on to others as high-performers even get persecuted by school bullies. When pupils take pride in doing nothing, not passing tests, not being able to read, then what results can you achieve? Mogadishu - here we are coming. Stupid citizens are good citizens as the elite needs ever less of them for actual work.

Quote:We somehow seem to be forgetting that most folk in the Western world up until the 1920s or 1940s even lived terrible lives of poverty and destitution.

Don't worry, people will be remembering very soon.

(10-23-2015 09:48 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote:'It's a political failure': how Sweden's celebrated schools system fell into crisis

It's widely documented, but rarely reported, that school classes that have significant amounts of non-native speakers suffer over all in terms of achievement.


It would seem that cultural/national homogeneity has a productive value. Successful school children will become successful citizens.

Don't forget guys.

During next summer the wave of fleeing ISIS nutters will most certainly have made their bloody mark on France by this time next year. By that time the MSM will be trying to figure out how they got over here.

(10-23-2015 10:24 AM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  During next summer the wave of fleeing ISIS nutters will most certainly have made their bloody mark on France by this time next year. By that time the MSM will be trying to figure out how they got over here.

Unlikely, they're busy training their apologism trigger-finger. Next attack I expect the media to output their "Islam and immigration are inviolable! The hundreds of dead aren't important, tolerance is!" propaganda within seconds. Expect to see more footage of crying muslims than of the victims.

I wish I had cartooning ability. The way I've interpreted Europe and the West since I was about 18 is a madman repeatedly stabbing himself in the torso with a huge grin on his face, only pausing briefly to slash at those trying to stop him.

(10-23-2015 10:16 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 09:48 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote:'It's a political failure': how Sweden's celebrated schools system fell into crisis

It's widely documented, but rarely reported, that school classes that have significant amounts of non-native speakers suffer over all in terms of achievement.

It would seem that cultural/national homogeneity has a productive value. Successful school children will become successful citizens.

It depends from what kind of heritage those non-natives are coming from - Chinese, Indian, Polish, Croatians, Serbs all outperform the various local populations in Germany, UK, Austria.

As we all stated - not all are equal.

And here some good news, so that Americans are not left out completely with the refugee tombola - if they don't come themselves, then the government will ship them in:





Dayton Ohio sounds like it needs cultural enrichment. They are obviously basing their ideas on the successful Somalis settled in Minneapolis.

And here scenes from NJ which was obviously already somewhat enriched:





A local dispute where Muslims demand religious holidays. One Hajib woman is even smugly claiming that they will soon be the majority there.

Ah - I can smell the diversity.

Obama has promised 100.000 more immigrants form the region. Of course that is a blatant understatement. They are already importing more than 100.000. The US is taking in almost 10.000 Somalis each year already. The real numbers are likely to be somewhere around 200.000-300.000 easy. Unfortunately only a few of them will be secular and integrating well. I am sure that the Beast of Benghazi will up the numbers as soon as in power.

So yeah - cultural enrichment for everyone.

Thousands of invaders at this moment wonder in Austria toward Graz without any police control, they got bored waiting at the Slovenian border.

Place bets here how many rapes will happen until they reach the German border.

(10-23-2015 10:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  They are obviously basing their ideas on the successful Somalis settled in Minneapolis.

That still pisses me off, and I don't even live anywhere near Minnesota.

Gee, I wonder why they chose to dump all the Somalis in Minnesota. Must be the climate, I mean Minnesota is a dead ringer for the FUCKING HORN OF AFRICA, right?!

Oh, wait...


Look at all that disgusting, bigoted blond hair. Hurry and enrich it before they start the Fourth Reich!

How much more obvious can you get?

http://www.thelocal.no/20151023/islamist...um-centres

""We have seen signs that extreme Islamists have approached the reception centres and asylum seekers. They have been there to get contacts. Aside from that, it's difficult to say what their specific purpose is," Jørn Presterudstuen from PST told Norwegian news agency NTB.

"We are of course worried about recruitment into radical circles: of course we are worried about every single person that may be recruited by extreme Islamists and their cause."

Torshov reception centre in Oslo confirms that Islamists have visited and spoken to refugees at the centre.

"We had an incident here with an Islamist who has been in Norway for some years. His message was that the West had helped to destroy his homeland and they had to stand together within Islam. It was very important that they continued to go to the mosque and followed the rules, particularly with regard to women," the centre's manager, Hugo Limkjær, said. "

This country of 5 million may take in 30,000 asylum seekers this year alone.

(10-23-2015 10:37 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 10:16 AM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 09:48 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Quote:'It's a political failure': how Sweden's celebrated schools system fell into crisis

It's widely documented, but rarely reported, that school classes that have significant amounts of non-native speakers suffer over all in terms of achievement.

It would seem that cultural/national homogeneity has a productive value. Successful school children will become successful citizens.

It depends from what kind of heritage those non-natives are coming from - Chinese, Indian, Polish, Croatians, Serbs all outperform the various local populations in Germany, UK, Austria.

As we all stated - not all are equal.

And here some good news, so that Americans are not left out completely with the refugee tombola - if they don't come themselves, then the government will ship them in:





Dayton Ohio sounds like it needs cultural enrichment. They are obviously basing their ideas on the successful Somalis settled in Minneapolis.

And here scenes from NJ which was obviously already somewhat enriched:





A local dispute where Muslims demand religious holidays. One Hajib woman is even smugly claiming that they will soon be the majority there.

Ah - I can smell the diversity.

Obama has promised 100.000 more immigrants form the region. Of course that is a blatant understatement. They are already importing more than 100.000. The US is taking in almost 10.000 Somalis each year already. The real numbers are likely to be somewhere around 200.000-300.000 easy. Unfortunately only a few of them will be secular and integrating well. I am sure that the Beast of Benghazi will up the numbers as soon as in power.

So yeah - cultural enrichment for everyone.

Yes, you provide some clarification. There are good immigrants and bad immigrants. We might be having a tendency in this thread to demonise all migrants. It reminds me of the popular criticism of UKIP in the UK as being racist bigots, but they propose a points based immigration system. They would reduce total numbers of immigrants, but raise the quality. Very racist.

If a turning point arrives, it will be when disliking unrestricted immigration is not conflated with pejoratives like racist, xenophobe, etc. If we don't see that happening the pro-refugee consensus has become too strong.

Nah - in the current economic cycle and system I would stop all migration - even the ones who integrate well - it's nothing personal - the jobs aren't there.
Personally I would only let in super-high-performers (stratospheric achievements - that will likely be a few dozen), well-off clearly secular men (money always welcome - 500.000$+ required and you need to invest that cash) and slim 18-25 year old single secular women. No one would be allowed to automatically invite any of his family into the country so the invitation would be only for that person alone.

Also interesting the lack of understanding in Norway:

http://www.thelocal.no/20151023/islamist...um-centres

Quote:Islamists 'recruiting' at Norway asylum centres

Quote:"We had an incident here with an Islamist who has been in Norway for some years. His message was that the West had helped to destroy his homeland and they had to stand together within Islam. It was very important that they continued to go to the mosque and followed the rules, particularly with regard to women," the centre's manager, Hugo Limkjær, said.

When staff at the centre realised that the man was an Islamist, he was removed from the premises.

An employee who did not wish to be named said that asylum seekers from Syria were fearful of the man.

"They were afraid and asked 'Have we come to Europe?'. They said that they had fled from this, the extremism," he told Norwegian broadcaster NRK.

Here is the misconception - while I understand the media's terms of calling a more extreme Muslim an Islamist and a supposedly moderate one not an Islamist, the slope is a highly slippery one.

The secular is essentially not even a moderate Muslim, because he ignores many of the concepts stated in the Quran. The secular Muslim takes the good and ignores the bad completely being at ease with Mohammed caricatures and slutty Arab women he sees. He may not like it, but he doesn't give a shit.

All my Muslim friends and acquaintances are secular and only later did I realize it. Moderate is a term that can mean pretty much anything on the sharia scale.

I think what's going on in Europe now is akin to some of the historical mass delusions. The South Seas bubble in the early 1700's, the tulip mania in the 1600's. Here we have a "refugee bubble." The major difference here is that in those cases the losses were merely financial, here, the delusion is leading to permanent "facts on the ground." Not as easy to deal with.

Camden NJ could use some soulmates.

(10-23-2015 11:13 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Camden NJ could use some soulmates.

When I hear soulmates I always think about the Chaos Space Marines from Warhammer 40k for some reason.

(10-23-2015 11:13 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Camden NJ could use some soulmates.

There was talk of bringing some to Baltimore too.

(10-23-2015 11:23 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 11:13 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Camden NJ could use some soulmates.

There was talk of bringing some to Baltimore too.

Baltimore could use some enrichment as well.

I would love to see the locals duke it out with those soulmates there.

   

They have strong leadership what could go wrong?

(10-23-2015 11:35 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 11:23 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 11:13 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Camden NJ could use some soulmates.

There was talk of bringing some to Baltimore too.

Baltimore could use some enrichment as well.

I would love to see the locals dude it out with those soulmates there.

Worldstarrrr!

(10-23-2015 11:35 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 11:23 AM)MdWanderer Wrote:  

(10-23-2015 11:13 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Camden NJ could use some soulmates.

There was talk of bringing some to Baltimore too.

Baltimore could use some enrichment as well.

I would love to see the locals duke it out with those soulmates there.

You mean culturally enriching scenes like in this Minnesota High School where Somali Soulmates try to enrich black American locals?





It happens all across the country it seems also on a more individual competitive level:





Well - the good thing is at least that the locals don't take too much shit. It's still interesting that from all the migrants coming over from Africa the Somalis manage to enrich the US the most.

el mech, the friction is already building in the UK.

(10-23-2015 12:38 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  el mech, the friction is already building in the UK.

"We're in a white man's world"

Yeah, you came here. Go back to your third world shithole.

^ Yeah but they won't be bulling people around like that in Detroit and they don't want to move to Zanesville so I think the Brits need to be meaner maybe get Little dark to train them if he's not busy.

You wont see that here someone said before I was posturing or whatever.

(10-23-2015 01:11 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  maybe get Little dark to train them if he's not busy.

Future thread title: I got into a huge fight with 800,000 migrants at the Germany

I chased them down and told them to "go home".
I was then arrested for inciting racial violence and nationalism. I'm typing this from my cushy European jail cell.

While somewhat right-leaning the #IsaluteWhitePeople hashtag is having some interesting content:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/isalutewhite...t&src=hash

(10-23-2015 02:25 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  While somewhat right-leaning the #IsaluteWhitePeople hashtag is having some interesting content:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/isalutewhite...t&src=hash

From the link:


Black-revisionism/Afrocentrism/nation of islam/whatever stuff is hilarious.