^ Aftonbladet is the biggest hardcore leftist newspaper in Sweden.
Their "journalists" are a big scramble of SJW's, immigrants and feminists and male feminists.
Always keep that in mind when you are reading any of their articles.

If they find anything to use against the Sweden Democrats, they will push it hard.

(10-22-2015 08:01 AM)GameNovice Wrote:  Europeans vote left to this day. Watch and see what happens with the next elections. It's the same in all of Europe. Oh anti-EU is on the rise, anti-immigration is going to win by a landslide. And yet when our peoples actually vote they keep electing the same people.

Not 30 years ago, they'll do it again tomorrow. That's tough luck for those of us who don't agree but as a population we voted against our own interests and now we're going to suffer for it, that's just the way it's going to be.

That's the problem with democracy. When "the people" are in charge, it leads to ruin.

It is sort of similar to putting a girl charge in a relationship or making a woman the head of the family. By default, girls are more susceptible to their emotions than men. As a result, most make decisions based on emotions instead of logic. In other words, girls focus on the immediate results and fail to consider, much less evaluate, the long-term consequences of their actions and decisions. When put in charge of a family or relationship, it most likely leads to the destruction of the family or relationship in question.

The "people," or more aptly termed the crowd or the mob, operates in a similar fashion as to a girl put in charge in the aforementioned situations. Essentially, the crowd is feminine by nature. By that, I mean they are easily susceptible to their emotions and whims. They rarely rely on logic for their decision making. As a result, the crowd destroys itself and everything around it by its own incompetence or by the manipulation of outside group who looks to benefit from the incompetence of the crowd.

That is why our leaders and politicians have more in common with a salesman than with a statesman from the 19th century. Our current politicians are not problem solvers. Instead, they are looking at ways to manipulate the crowd for their own immediate and short-termed benefit. They are essentially a salesmen selling us either the emotion and/or image that everything is ok or everything is going to be ok. However, our current leaders and politicians are sounding more schizophrenic with each successive election given that the decline and collapse of civilization is becoming more tangible.

Although I acknowledge that is the fault of the European people for what is happening , I can't be angry at them. It is similar to getting mad at a dog for eating my unprotected steak. It is the dog's nature to eat the steak just as it is the crowd's nature to destroy everything. That is one of the reasons why liberal democracy has got to go and be replaced with something that regulates the power of "the people."

Another planned asylum center burned down in Sweden:

http://www.expressen.se/kvallsposten/pla...t-i-brand/

That makes 5 burned down now.

As I said, the happening happens on. Each fire will inspire more, particulaly because the feckless Swedish police has no time to investigate swamped as they are with chasing regret-rape and drug testing muscular men.

The cool heart is eventually is much more dangerous than the hot head.

This is something both the invaders and their cohorts underestimate. The Ice People do not need safety in crowds, their ability to plan, act and propagandize alone is a far greater treath to the status quo than any unruly mob setting themselves up to be teargassed.

(10-22-2015 07:29 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  I would just like to say a big fuck you to all the people sitting there in America enjoying the destruction of Europe.

Fuck You.

You're saying you like this shit happening to me and the people of Europe because we deserve it. We should all suffer because of our treacherous politicians and the stupid socialists here. How am I supposed to not take that personally? I'm actually doing things about this to protect myself, my family and likeminded people, I guess people like you are not those people I will be helping protect. I'm not sitting here waiting for destruction to come.

Veloce, I'm sitting in a nice house, in a nice town in the suburbs as well, in a town free from a muslim invasion but has growing numbers of eastern europeans. The bigger nearby towns are slowly being ruined by immigration. Only I'm not stupid enough to think oh well I'm safe.

You remind of this image.

I don't think there are many posters here legitimately feeling any joy over the invasion of Europe.
I like to keep my posts lighthearted here, but that's because I don't want to set around and just be depressed about this stuff all day. A couple weeks ago that's what would happen every time I opened this thread.
Like Lizard of Oz says, I try not to let this stuff totally demoralize me.

I was born in America but I still feel connected to Europe and don't want to see it ruined, and I think a lot of other Americans feel the same way.
I've still got some family in Friesland, Leeuwarden to be exact, and they tell me stories about the police coming and demanding they take flags off their cars because some immigrant complained, it's disgusting.

Hell, I used to think about moving from Burgerland to Friesland, living in one of the last purely Germanic places on earth where everyone looked like me, but I guess that's over now, they're going to get enriched.

(10-22-2015 09:23 AM)quino_16 Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 08:01 AM)GameNovice Wrote:  Europeans vote left to this day. Watch and see what happens with the next elections. It's the same in all of Europe. Oh anti-EU is on the rise, anti-immigration is going to win by a landslide. And yet when our peoples actually vote they keep electing the same people.

Not 30 years ago, they'll do it again tomorrow. That's tough luck for those of us who don't agree but as a population we voted against our own interests and now we're going to suffer for it, that's just the way it's going to be.

That's the problem with democracy. When "the people" are in charge, it leads to ruin.

It is sort of similar to putting a girl charge in a relationship or making a woman the head of the family. By default, girls are more susceptible to their emotions than men. As a result, most make decisions based on emotions instead of logic. In other words, girls focus on the immediate results and fail to consider, much less evaluate, the long-term consequences of their actions and decisions. When put in charge of a family or relationship, it most likely leads to the destruction of the family or relationship in question.

The "people," or more aptly termed the crowd or the mob, operates in a similar fashion as to a girl put in charge in the aforementioned situations. Essentially, the crowd is feminine by nature. By that, I mean they are easily susceptible to their emotions and whims. They rarely rely on logic for their decision making. As a result, the crowd destroys itself and everything around it by its own incompetence or by the manipulation of outside group who looks to benefit from the incompetence of the crowd.

That is why our leaders and politicians have more in common with a salesman than with a statesman from the 19th century. Our current politicians are not problem solvers. Instead, they are looking at ways to manipulate the crowd for their own immediate and short-termed benefit. They are essentially a salesmen selling us either the emotion and/or image that everything is ok or everything is going to be ok. However, our current leaders and politicians are sounding more schizophrenic with each successive election given that the decline and collapse of civilization is becoming more tangible.

Although I acknowledge that is the fault of the European people for what is happening , I can't be angry at them. It is similar to getting mad at a dog for eating my unprotected steak. It is the dog's nature to eat the steak just as it is the crowd's nature to destroy everything. That is one of the reasons why liberal democracy has got to go and be replaced with something that regulates the power of "the people."

I agree that it's (at least partially) the people's fault.

I touched upon this topic in these posts:
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50253...pid1121898
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50253...pid1130847

The money elite wants this to happen, the politicians execute it and the people keep on electing and tolerating those same politicians.

As quino_16 pointed out, most people are too stupid to be allowed to vote.
They are not capable of critical and logical thought, of generalizing their observations, of identifying and connecting cause and effect and of long term thinking.
They are always looking for exceptions to the rules (the good immigrant with five cute children).
They vote for short term projects.
They vote for the politician with the best sales talk instead of the best program.
They vote with their emotions (they are people just like us).

And the worst voters are women (obviously) and people of slightly above average IQ (let's say between 100 and 120). They are smart enough to realize they are above average, yet too stupid to realize they're not that smart. These are the typical university graduates and left-wing intellectuals who label all right-wing voters as retards who "don't get it".
The typical construction or factory worker votes with far more common sense, and so does the super intelligent nerd.

(10-22-2015 07:29 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  I would just like to say a big fuck you to all the people sitting there in America enjoying the destruction of Europe.

Fuck You.

You're saying you like this shit happening to me and the people of Europe because we deserve it. We should all suffer because of our treacherous politicians and the stupid socialists here. How am I supposed to not take that personally? I'm actually doing things about this to protect myself, my family and likeminded people, I guess people like you are not those people I will be helping protect. I'm not sitting here waiting for destruction to come.

Veloce, I'm sitting in a nice house, in a nice town in the suburbs as well, in a town free from a muslim invasion but has growing numbers of eastern europeans. The bigger nearby towns are slowly being ruined by immigration. Only I'm not stupid enough to think oh well I'm safe.

You remind of this image.

Speaking for solely myself here, I’m an American and this thread initially made me feel disgust then intrigue on how Europe would react and now it’s settled between dispassion and resentment. In no uncertain terms do I want to see this happen to Europe, I waste time every day hoping for a positive update that hasn’t come. I would say 99.5% of Americans have no idea what is going on.

Our DoD has provided cover for immigrants from multiple continents to converge on Europe and for the European immigration policies to be abused under the guise of “compassion or morality”. That much is true, yes. However, the American attack is conceptual and the battlefield is located in the State Department, Pentagon, and NGOs/Lobbyist Firms. Your battle is on the street at the ground level and people don’t seem to be doing much.

There are two options to take; take physical action to stem the tide directly with limited numbers or engage in propaganda to recruit more to the cause.

How's that street level battle against the South American hordes, black entitlements, Jewish agitating and SJW/tranny/PC/gay degeneracy working out for ya then?

(10-22-2015 10:29 AM)PhDre Wrote:  The money elite wants this to happen, the politicians execute it and the people keep on electing and tolerating those same politicians.

As quino_16 pointed out, most people are too stupid to be allowed to vote.
They are not capable of critical and logical thought, of generalizing their observations, of identifying and connecting cause and effect and of long term thinking.
They are always looking for exceptions to the rules (the good immigrant with five cute children).
They vote for short term projects.
They vote for the politician with the best sales talk instead of the best program.
They vote with their emotions (they are people just like us).

There is no voting yourself out of this! I have said it again and again. The elite knows that an intelligent highly educated population with a good open education is very dangerous. That is why they have plans in motion for almost a century. Vaccines destroy the IQ from 5-20%, fluoridated water does the same at levels of 5% (Harvard studies on it), education is highly manipulated (check out Frankfurt school, but also Charlotte Thomson Iserbytt), children are drugged in addition at an early age (not only Ritalin, but meds being promoted on toddlers now etc.). In addition you have the usual behavioral demoralizing propaganda and a school system that rather encourages conformity and beats rebellion out of you. Of course in that system you have the focus on women, because they are the better mind-slaves and they attack everything that is healthy aggressive masculinity. The elite knows fully well that any resistance against them comes from men alone. All that strong-women bullshit is just for show.




(Not only America - the same program is in place around the world.)

Also those romanticized ideas of how wonderful king and nobility would be are purely theoretical. They were deposed and ousted by the money power, because in most instances they were too dumb to recognize the danger they were in. In France they were literally massacred and the rest of Europe seeing this gave in to greater money power demands. Essentially they were dethroned by the money boys and there is no return to that way so any royalist is a pure illusionist. Also such a system is usually less advantageous for advancement of civilization due to their massive reliance on hereditary credential. A super-high-IQ individual there still scrapes the bottom and it takes a miracle for them to advance properly.

At least the money boys usurped the power through pure cunning, economics and great skill. And they are the same ones who make sure that Europe is feminized and dumbed down sufficiently to not rebel too much against them.

Voting left or right is like a Game in futility. I agree with the Turkish writer and intellectual Akif Princci that voting legitimizes their dictatorship. I would personally just vote for Trump or the right out of a minor kick without much hope that much would change. WE ARE ALREADY RULED BY A NOBILITY - A MONEY POWER NOBILITY who is barely registered at the Forbes list with only a tiny portion of their real wealth.

This system won't be toppled by voting alone. This is absolutely impossible unless we have something unforeseen like an Alien invasion or global tectonic shifts etc.

The people are responsible for the fate that is in store of them. By the way - Americans are even more brainwashed than Europeans in many degrees. We are all in it together as the ones maintaining a Western civilization. I am afraid that Asians will be taking over the torch from us, which is fine. Usury has pressed this European and US orange out and now comes a contraction cycle as it always does. China, Korea and Japan will be taking over for the next century. (until usury destroys them too or they manage to oust the money power)

(10-22-2015 11:12 AM)NO_LIMIT_CRACKA Wrote:  How's that street level battle against the South American hordes, black entitlements, Jewish agitating and SJW/tranny/PC/gay degeneracy working out for ya then?

The black entitlements that have been going on since 30 years before I was born? The South American hordes that are 1,000 miles south of where I live? The Jewish media that pushes a narrative I don't support with my time, energy, or consumption?

Gee golly, Mister, I just don't know how I forgot about something that is so rampant in my life on a day to day basis.

Again, retard, migrants marching down streets and being bused in might just be a bit more concrete than those examples you cherry picked. Those are all shit deals as well but they aren't threats of the magnitude Europe is facing.

My intended message was to say, no, not all Americans are enjoying this at all.

But sure, lets take potshots at US issues to negate the lack of action by the majority Europeans, that's constructive.

Back to the topic at hand:

They are going to milk this cow as much as possible:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...-shot.html

Quote:Racist attack: The 21-year-old had 'expressed right-wing and Nazi sympathies' online in the weeks before the attack at the school, which is located in an area of the city with a large immigrant population

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z3pJgbOIjN
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

Quote:Swedish Prime Minister Stefan Lofven, who was heading to Trollhattan, described Thursday as a 'black day.'
'My thoughts go out to the victims and their families, the students and staff, and the whole community that has been affected,' Lofven said.
'No words can describe what they are going through right now.'
King Carl XVI Gustaf of Sweden has also made a a statement in the wake of the attack:
'Sweden is in shock. It is with great dismay and sorrow that my family and I have received the news about the events in Trollhättan.
'Our thoughts are with those affected by this and their families, the victims who are now in critical condition in hospital, as well as the students and faculty of the school who now need all our support.'

It is a great national tragedy to them.

Personally I don't deny that this is sad for the people involved and the idiot should be shot instantly.

But what is so irritating is that this is a great national tragedy while the rape and killing of Swedish women and children by the hands of migrants is barely worth a side-note.

Such a reaction by a deranged man will be used to further the same cause - more immigrants and more drastic measures against "racism and xenophobia".

(10-22-2015 11:43 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(10-22-2015 10:29 AM)PhDre Wrote:  The money elite wants this to happen, the politicians execute it and the people keep on electing and tolerating those same politicians.

As quino_16 pointed out, most people are too stupid to be allowed to vote.
They are not capable of critical and logical thought, of generalizing their observations, of identifying and connecting cause and effect and of long term thinking.
They are always looking for exceptions to the rules (the good immigrant with five cute children).
They vote for short term projects.
They vote for the politician with the best sales talk instead of the best program.
They vote with their emotions (they are people just like us).

There is no voting yourself out of this! I have said it again and again. The elite knows that an intelligent highly educated population with a good open education is very dangerous. That is why they have plans in motion for almost a century. Vaccines destroy the IQ from 5-20%, fluoridated water does the same at levels of 5% (Harvard studies on it), education is highly manipulated (check out Frankfurt school, but also Charlotte Thomson Iserbytt), children are drugged in addition at an early age (not only Ritalin, but meds being promoted on toddlers now etc.). In addition you have the usual behavioral demoralizing propaganda and a school system that rather encourages conformity and beats rebellion out of you. Of course in that system you have the focus on women, because they are the better mind-slaves and they attack everything that is healthy aggressive masculinity. The elite knows fully well that any resistance against them comes from men alone. All that strong-women bullshit is just for show.

I can understand that there's no turning around the current situation, especially not in the voting boot.
But you cannot deny that nearly every European country has a far-right party whose program diametrically opposes the elite's plans: no immigration, no minority rights, no feminism, no LGBT rights, protectionism of the own market,...

What would happen if 80%+ of people would vote for those parties? Would they rig the elections on a massive scale? Would they declare the result unacceptable and seize power with a minority government, thereby showing everyone that we do not live in a democracy? Would they kill the election winners?
Or would they find a way to let the far-right execute their plans for a new world order?

Also, completely agree on the IQ thing. It's astonishing how the level of intelligence of the average 18 year old has dropped over the past 10-20 years.

(10-22-2015 12:23 PM)PhDre Wrote:  What would happen if 80%+ of people would vote for those parties?

For major shifts in policy you don't need 80% to vote for those parties. 30% will be enough for policy shifts and if the politicians don't listen (I'm guessing they won't) the consequences are going to be terrible. Europe has a history of revolutions: 1215, 1640, 1688, 1648, 1789, 1848, 1918, 1948 etc, etc,. I don't think it's different this time.

(10-22-2015 07:29 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  I would just like to say a big fuck you to all the people sitting there in America enjoying the destruction of Europe.

Fuck You.

You're saying you like this shit happening to me and the people of Europe because we deserve it. We should all suffer because of our treacherous politicians and the stupid socialists here. How am I supposed to not take that personally? I'm actually doing things about this to protect myself, my family and likeminded people, I guess people like you are not those people I will be helping protect. I'm not sitting here waiting for destruction to come.

Veloce, I'm sitting in a nice house, in a nice town in the suburbs as well, in a town free from a muslim invasion but has growing numbers of eastern europeans. The bigger nearby towns are slowly being ruined by immigration. Only I'm not stupid enough to think oh well I'm safe.

You remind of this image.

Cool your jets. I'd have the same reaction if this was happening in Los Angeles, where I lived for 15 years. My hometown is already ruined in my mind so nothing is sacred to me anymore. When I read about the California drought my first reaction is, "Good. Fuck that state, fuck L.A. and fuck S.F".

We were sold out a long time ago. The left gets what's coming to them and the right eventually make a stand. Either way it's immensely gratifying to watch.

Noone here is enjoying the decline of Europe. The enjoyment comes from watching the live-action endgame of progressivism and the ensuing backlash. It's a very exciting time to be alive.

Well, I was wrong on this one. I'm surprised they waited so long to tell people the perpetrator was white. I guess they really didn't know, or they actually realize what is happening and that Sweden could be in a slow-burn, small-scale race war before long.

Maybe this kid was a over-medicated chum that went postal.....but i do not know why i feel his outburst was too coincidental to give arguments to the left phycos who have the power right now in Sweden.

(10-22-2015 09:49 AM)iop890 Wrote:  I don't think there are many posters here legitimately feeling any joy over the invasion of Europe.

I think everyone here should be legitimately feeling joy over what's currently happening. It has become abundantly clear that Europeans, the vast majority of them, have no problem with their own slow genocide through multiculturalism.

This mass invasion is an enormous blessing as it gives Europe one final chance, multiculturalism is one thing when it takes over your neighborhood over the course of 4 decades, it's an entirely different beast when millions come flooding in month after month.

I see it in my own surroundings, politically correct fathers who would call you a degenerate nazi two years ago for being against the Multicultural Dream openly worrying about the safety of their pretty green eyed princess now that 1800 agents of cultural enrichment are scheduled to take up residence right next to her gymnastics club.

The final hour of Europe has come, either the invaders and their sympathizers will be ousted or we will be overrun.

Either outcome is acceptable to me. I would rather see IS flags on every corner by 2020 than see the slow, sad decline of a once proud continent continue for another 50 years.

The new Swedish story is already making news.

No word on when they're going to highlight migrant-on-swedish rapes, murders and attacks. This is the sort of thing that just creates more problems. Swedish men get attacked, women and children suffer harassment and rape, including murder and not a single Swedish politician shows their mug.

Some Swedish guy goes nuts and they all clamour for a bit of show biz. Yeah, Sweden is even more fucked now.

Why are neo-nazis always so dumb? Why didn't he go play with his sword at parliament or a migrant camp or something? Why a school?

I'll say another thing: even though European countries have been suffering from idiotic immigration policies for years now, it's just now reaching a fever pitch and getting the global attention that it deserves.

Hell I'm sure many Americans still have no idea what's going on. Americans tend to be woefully ignorant about what's happening in the world. But two years ago nobody here in the U.S. would have the slightest idea of what was happening in Europe (I'm sure a large portion of Americans couldn't locate Germany on a map, much less Syria) What has been a European issue for decades is now a global issue and the entire world is watching. In that respect, this really is a sort of final showdown.

The only reason I knew what was going on years ago is because I have a an aunt in Paris that I keep in touch with (who herself is fiercely nationalistic) American news doesn't cover Marseille or migrant invasions along southern Spain. Shit, I was shocked when I went to a small town in Catalonia and saw how many North Africans there were. It's just not something that gets covered here.

So now the world is watching and more and more people are becoming aware. It's not just Europe that's involved now. People across the globe are taking sides in a war of ideologies. You can say "FUCK YOU!" all you want but you're missing the point.

We've been hearing bullshit rhetoric about immigration for decades now, and now we're seeing the live-action consequences of that rhetoric.

(10-22-2015 01:44 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Why are neo-nazis always so dumb? Why didn't he go play with his sword at parliament or a migrant camp or something? Why a school?

I'm more interested in this low effectiveness. If you will fuck up your life killing your (alleged) enemies, you can surely be better than 2 dead and 2 injured. Even with a knife.

Of course the double homicide at IKEA doesn't matter anymore. Interested in seeing what happens to SD's polling.

Of it goes down then I go back to no longer caring about Sweden.

(10-22-2015 09:23 AM)Chaos Wrote:  ^ Aftonbladet is the biggest hardcore leftist newspaper in Sweden.
Their "journalists" are a big scramble of SJW's, immigrants and feminists and male feminists.
Always keep that in mind when you are reading any of their articles.

If they find anything to use against the Sweden Democrats, they will push it hard.

My neighbour who was a cop, caught one journalist trying to pay some random kids in Husby to start fires during the riots.

Anyway heard on TV 5 min ago that one of the victims were Somalian.

Oh right. The stabbing at IKEA. That may be why he used a sword.

Fellow Europeans on this thread please remember in tone that there is a very high probability that the Western and Northern European descendants and general population of those nations will be 'majority minority' within the next 200 years and will be brown and almost indistinguishable from the migrant groups now entering.

it is rather sad we will lose the genuine diversity of many recessive european features but you will have to get used to it, especially if you are a secular libertarian and will not commit to a family and producing the future generations of indigenous Europeans. A lot of the nonsense by academics and the media about the success of the high tax and high maternity benefits for mothers in Nordic countries is because like the French they have outsourced babies with the recent generation whereas Poland or Spain the low rate does genuinely reflect the actual statistics more honestly.

And before I am accused of trolling, do you really think anything else will happen with such huge differentials between native born and migrant birthrates, before even mentioning the huge and still increasing number of childless women in the west, almost 50% of UK female graduates are childless. The one man two kids model is not sustainable when 3 and 4 child European families are looked down upon by Europeans and are far rarer now as outliers than 1 or 0 child households.

I actually doubt that will happen. Too much to happen by then.

I also really don't buy the "we'll all be miscegenated" because mixed couples are the minority pretty much everywhere.

And actually, France And Sweden's maternity does work. The native birthrate is quite high. Below replacement but higher than most other places.