(10-21-2015 07:39 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Nice find @debeguiled:



They want everything now instantly. They don't understand that them having to wait in a Croatian refugee camp does not mean that they won't be let into their German or Swedish welfare-paradise.

Just as they don't seem to be able to understand that it takes months to get all the paperwork done and housing prepared in Germany or Sweden. Germany in contrast to Sweden has the housing, but it may take 12 months or longer.

Instead they react with anger, protest and violence. What did they think would happen? Someone coming up to each and everyone of them with the keys to their new apartments, a wad of cash and a 14 year old virginal bride as a welcome gift? Seriously this makes me wonder if the average IQ there crosses 88. Are they all coming from next-gen-civilizations where Germany is an organizational nightmare?

Fuck them all.

Poor impulse control.

Inability to conceptualize the future and plan.

dupe

(10-21-2015 10:00 AM)Icepasian Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 09:14 AM)GameNovice Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 08:20 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Zelcorpion, you're right, their average IQ is likely very low, we're talking near retarded levels, but yet you think these people will 'take over' Europe.

Nobody thinks they'll actually take over in a governmental sense...

Do you really believe that? You only need the largest demographic bloc to control a given area. Rotterdam's Mayor: I'm a Jihadist

I almost think that they truly are ignorant of what they're doing, it's either that or they're willingly destroying Europe. The far-left wants to give these people power out of sheer self-hatred. They want the destruction of Europe. They want their one test-tube baby per family to suffer for its "crimes" in the future. It's either that or there's a long-running plot to bring back fascism, because this is probably the only way that you could conceivably do it.

Rotterdam's Muslim Ahmed Aboutaleb mayor reminds me of Steve Jobs' Syrian father who looks like a guy from Kansas.







While in a way he excuses Jihad in his talk, he is clearly secular. Also the very elite does not control all political stations at the top. I am also not concerned about secular men like that - guys like him have been in Europe for centuries.

The elite is not stupid enough to let Europe become Muslim. Even if they make 50% of the population, will they not rule.

Here is a map of the muslim rape gangs in Briton I found. It is much larger than just Rotherdam. I can't speak to the authenticity of it, I did find it on a site that looks to be white-rights oriented or at least anti-muslim. Just a heads up.

Edit: Took out the faulty embed code.

If for some reason that doesn't embed, then here is the link:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid...2PXo&hl=en

I heard an interesting report on the radio recently. It was about Akif Pirincci, an Turkish-German writer, who became famous in the late 1980s with crime literature. Recently, he attracted much controversy because of his anti-immigration and anti-gouvernment rhetoric. Check out his Wiki page and some amusing quotes of him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akif_Pirin%C3%A7ci

Recently he appeared on a Pegida demonstration and spoke there and drew much criticism when he said something among the lines of: "There could be other alternatives. But unfortunately, the concentration camps are not operating" when speaking about the current refugee situation.

I think this statement is absolutely inappropriate, but i think it´s interesting that a person with a migration background would criticize the gouvernment and left-leaning politicians so harshly.

Well shiiiit.

Now they are planning on building a brand new city in Germany, New Aleppo, just for refugees. I guess you will know what side of town to stay away from in the future.

From Google Translate:

Welcome to New Aleppo, the city for refugees

Quote:Manfred Osterwald is an architect and general planner. He has experience with it, entire cities to design on the drawing board: In China, in Iran, in Lebanon, he has made such major projects. And now he has the vision refugees to build a new home in Germany. "Smart Home City" he calls his idea - being Home for Help & Organisation for Migrants is in Europe. Osterwald thinks big, very big.

The city for Refugees wants to equip with everything a city can offer its inhabitants only Osterwald: apartments, supermarkets, schools and hospitals, sports facilities, cinemas and shops, greenery and especially a central square with a mosque. The refugees should feel at home. And not only that. They are involved in planning the new city, to help build, co-manage. Quasi a trainee program in order to find their way in Germany.

Flüchtlinge in Berlin


Refugee crisis



Tent cities must be vacated due to cold

Around 500 million euros it would cost to Easter Forest calculations to build such a city for 30,000 refugees. Bright and colorful, with architectural elements from the homeland of the residents - so that they will find their identity, he says. Have given authorities and developers once the "green light", it would take with prefabricated components scarcely more than a year, until the first residents move in and with language and integration courses could begin.

As optimistic as Osterwald see those responsible in communities not currently available in the future. They are still busy trying to provide overnight winterised shelter, so that the daily incoming refugees in the first place even have a bed to sleep. Since there is hardly time to think about tomorrow and permanent housing - especially not yet be foreseen, how many people will actually remain. But architects and planners have already begun to develop initial concepts: the renovation of existing prefabricated buildings for the construction of single family houses until the establishment of entirely new settlements.


Individual housing units are to be combined


This year alone, approximately 270,000 new homes will be built in Germany. For the coming year expects Bundesbauministerin Barbara Hendricks (SPD) as a result of immigration already with a significant increase in demand of 350,000 units, the German Tenants' Association even goes out of at least 400,000. Where it is not meant to provide special solutions for refugees, but affordable housing for all. But where is to be built? And how?

These questions are also Reinhard Wölpert order. He is deputy head of planning of the city of Leipzig and head of the Task Force "asylum space", which takes care of the accommodation of refugees. The city adapts to it that at least 5,400 refugees will remain permanently. There are still in the center of Leipzig vacant apartments, but Wölpert is already on the lookout for suitable locations to build new apartments: simple, equipped with only the bare essentials and without a basement, because the cost saving.

But above all, should be "floating" of the living room. What, for example, means to design the outlines of terraced houses so that they will initially inhabited by two families - and can be folded with little effort into a residential unit later. Under no circumstances should the new buildings are somewhere in the "no man's land", but if possible close to town, with social infrastructure, medical care and good shopping. It must now go quickly, says Wölpert, but it should also not be rushed.

In der Stadt für Flüchtlinge soll es auch einen Boulevard mit Straßencafés geben



in the city for refugees there should also be a boulevard with outdoor cafes


After the Second World War, Germany was already facing the challenge of accommodating twelve million refugees from the former German eastern territories. In order to create new living space, the building was funded with state money. First, the refugees found mainly recording in small towns and rural regions that had been spared by the war. But soon began a veritable internal migration because the people moved to the vicinity of workstations.

A similar development anticipates the District of Hochtaunus, Ulrich cancer, even in the current refugee crisis. Looking for work, people would from Syria, Iraq and Eritrea are based in the long run in the direction of agglomerations like Frankfurt. Are intended to stimulate the social housing throughout the metropolitan area and across the refugees to settle evenly distributed is all the more important. "We do not want ghettos," says Krebs.


But Funny regulations prevent rapid construction


Even Christine Langenfeld, Chairman of the Expert Council of German Foundations on Integration and Migration (SVR), warns establish special quarters for refugees: "It is important for the integration of refugees, that they come as quickly as possible in contact with the local population and participate in the daily life . " This must also be reflected in the housing situation.

How difficult it may be, however, refugees accommodate decentralized and prepare for even existing houses, shows a elfstöckiger GDR block in Berlin-Prenzlauer Berg. The building once served as a sports boarding and has been empty for ten years. There is no sanitation more, thieves have ripped radiators, metal pipes and cables. Should new flats will be built, only galleys must be installed once.



The person in charge of the renovation architect Grant Kelly feels hampered by the regulations in force in the rapid implementation of the plans. When he had in the conventional way, demonstrate renewable "primary energy sources" and compensate for the installation of gas boilers environmentally friendly, "will cost time and money." It calls for the abandonment of these requirements.

In addition, could bring about two months time savings quickly issued building permits. Even Kelly's colleague Arthur Numrich complains of the "often ludicrous regulations", led by the "thermal barrier Lobby" enforced "far excessive demands of the Energy Conservation Act". The "procurement regulations" with EU-wide tendering, so Numrich must be urgently purifies.

Such legal hurdles do nothing Osterwald on the vision of a "Smart Home City". He hopes to inspire federal and state governments for the project. Above all, he relies on supporters from the business world who train their future professionals in place. The city is in any case intended for the refugees only as a transition; they should be well prepared later elsewhere settle in Germany. The project aims to be a role model and see as many countries as imitators. Also around Syria could to stay in such towns refugees. Osterwald thinks just great.

(10-21-2015 08:18 AM)GameNovice Wrote:  I personally don't mind what's going on at all. Europe has been doomed for decades now, the current flood of migrants will simply speed up the process. What is interesting/hilarious to see is formerly borderline SJW-types who used to call you a nazi cower in the face of what's to come. Even the most stubborn European eyes are slowly being forced open.

I tell it to them straight, enjoy your multicultural dream. See how kindly our third andworld guests take to faggotry, SJW's and strong, independent womyn.

Im a fit, straight, heterosexual man with no pretty blue eyed daughters so I don't have all that much to worry about.

And if you think about it, it's only (or mostly?) white countries who give a shit about multiculturalism/diversity/PC. If it crumbles in Europe because of the mugging by reality, then it will be only left in the remaining anglosphere countries. Then with no European shamers left, it will be easier to dismantle. Maybe a perfect storm if Trump becomes president (he doesn't give a shit about PC rules) while Europe ethnic cleanses.

Countries like Japan and China don't give a shit about multiculturalism. They're probably thinking "of course Europe (and USA) should keep those immigrants out."

(10-21-2015 10:38 AM)Austrian Wrote:  I heard an interesting report on the radio recently. It was about Akif Pirincci, an Turkish-German writer, who became famous in the late 1980s with crime literature. Recently, he attracted much controversy because of his anti-immigration and anti-gouvernment rhetoric. Check out his Wiki page and some amusing quotes of him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akif_Pirin%C3%A7ci

Recently he appeared on a Pegida demonstration and spoke there and drew much criticism when he said something among the lines of: "There could be other alternatives. But unfortunately, the concentration camps are not operating" when speaking about the current refugee situation.

I think this statement is absolutely inappropriate, but i think it´s interesting that a person with a migration background would criticize the gouvernment and left-leaning politicians so harshly.

Good stuff. I read books from Akif back in the day - his bestseller Felidae.

His new book is even better:

Quote:Germany out of it's mind: The mad cult of women, homosexuals and immigrants

.

Sounds like he is one of us. He is also vividly against socialism, communism.

Quote:"Islam belongs to us as the Reeperbahn to Mecca"

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutschland_von_Sinnen

http://www.focus.de/magazin/archiv/repor...48178.html

http://www.bild.de/news/inland/islam/isl....bild.html

It is amazing that migrants like him speak out for Germany and can talk some real sense.

That is why we should not automatically condemn all Muslims. Of course it does not seem as if he is still a practicing one, but he speaks a lot of truth nonetheless and clearly states that his Turkish compatriots did not adapt to Germany. And now the craziness is even worse.

Funny that he talks about the feminist and homosexual agenda as well as some kind of craziness.

Well, this is kind of creepy.

I wonder if they could do it with cell phone signals?



Scientists claim they can change your belief on immigrants and God – with MAGNETS

Quote:A bizarre experiment claims to be able to make Christians no longer believe in God and make Britons open their arms to migrants in experiments some may find a threat to their values.

Scientists looked at how the brain resolves abstract ideological problems.

Using a technique called transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), researchers safely shut down certain groups of neurones in the brains of volunteers.



Related articles


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Heaven is 'PIE in the SKY' - Leading Christian shocks Radio 4...


TMS, which is used to treat depression, involves placing a large electromagnetic coil against the scalp which creates electric currents that stimulate nerve cells in the region of the brain involved in mood control.

Researchers found the technique radically altered religious perceptions and prejudice.

Belief in God was reduced almost by a third, while participants became 28.5 per cent less bothered by immigration numbers.


Brain testGETTY

Magnetic waves were used to shut down certain groups of neurones in the brain


Dr Keise Izuma, from the University of York, said: "People often turn to ideology when they are confronted by problems.

"We wanted to find out whether a brain region that is linked with solving concrete problems, like deciding how to move one's body to overcome an obstacle, is also involved in solving abstract problems addressed by ideology."

The scientists targeted the posterior medial frontal cortex, a brain region a few inches up from the forehead that is associated with detecting and responding to problems.


Woman undergoing testGETTY

Researchers found the technique radically altered religious perceptions and prejudice



These findings are very striking

Dr Colin Holbrook


Volunteers were asked to rate their belief in God, heaven, the devil, and hell after undergoing pre-screening to ensure that they held religious convictions.

Dr Izuma said: "We decided to remind people of death because previous research has shown that people turn to religion for comfort in the face of death.

"As expected, we found that when we experimentally turned down the posterior medial frontal cortex, people were less inclined to reach for comforting religious ideas despite having been reminded of death."





The American participants were also shown two essays written by newly arrived immigrants - one highly complimentary of the US and the other extremely critical.

Dr Izuma said: "When we disrupted the brain region that usually helps detect and respond to threats, we saw a less negative, less ideologically motivated reaction to the critical author and his opinions."


Immigrants passing a sign in Calais GETTY

The experiment changed people's opinions on immigrants, claimed scientists


The research, published in the journal Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience, suggests our brains use the same basic mental pathways to solve practical problems such as following directions or ideological issues such as immigration and religion.

Lead author Dr Colin Holbrook, form the the University of California at Los Angeles, said: "These findings are very striking, and consistent with the idea that brain mechanisms that evolved for relatively basic threat-response functions are re-purposed to also produce ideological reactions."

This seems almost too blatant. I have heard about this type of technology before, but linking American attitudes towards religion and immigration and using pictures of migrants in Calais in the reporting, not to mention why they are studying this to begin with in this particular study, is....odd and disturbing.

(10-21-2015 11:00 AM)Troll King Wrote:  Well, this is kind of creepy.

I wonder if they could do it with cell phone signals?



Scientists claim they can change your belief on immigrants and God – with MAGNETS

Quote:A bizarre experiment claims to be able to make Christians no longer believe in God and make Britons open their arms to migrants in experiments some may find a threat to their values.

Scientists looked at how the brain resolves abstract ideological problems.

Using a technique called transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), researchers safely shut down certain groups of neurones in the brains of volunteers.



Related articles


Sunrise in the WEST: Scientists warn North could be SOUTH as...


Heaven is 'PIE in the SKY' - Leading Christian shocks Radio 4...


TMS, which is used to treat depression, involves placing a large electromagnetic coil against the scalp which creates electric currents that stimulate nerve cells in the region of the brain involved in mood control.

Researchers found the technique radically altered religious perceptions and prejudice.

Belief in God was reduced almost by a third, while participants became 28.5 per cent less bothered by immigration numbers.


Brain testGETTY

Magnetic waves were used to shut down certain groups of neurones in the brain


Dr Keise Izuma, from the University of York, said: "People often turn to ideology when they are confronted by problems.

"We wanted to find out whether a brain region that is linked with solving concrete problems, like deciding how to move one's body to overcome an obstacle, is also involved in solving abstract problems addressed by ideology."

The scientists targeted the posterior medial frontal cortex, a brain region a few inches up from the forehead that is associated with detecting and responding to problems.


Woman undergoing testGETTY

Researchers found the technique radically altered religious perceptions and prejudice



These findings are very striking

Dr Colin Holbrook


Volunteers were asked to rate their belief in God, heaven, the devil, and hell after undergoing pre-screening to ensure that they held religious convictions.

Dr Izuma said: "We decided to remind people of death because previous research has shown that people turn to religion for comfort in the face of death.

"As expected, we found that when we experimentally turned down the posterior medial frontal cortex, people were less inclined to reach for comforting religious ideas despite having been reminded of death."





The American participants were also shown two essays written by newly arrived immigrants - one highly complimentary of the US and the other extremely critical.

Dr Izuma said: "When we disrupted the brain region that usually helps detect and respond to threats, we saw a less negative, less ideologically motivated reaction to the critical author and his opinions."


Immigrants passing a sign in Calais GETTY

The experiment changed people's opinions on immigrants, claimed scientists


The research, published in the journal Social Cognitive and Affective Neuroscience, suggests our brains use the same basic mental pathways to solve practical problems such as following directions or ideological issues such as immigration and religion.

Lead author Dr Colin Holbrook, form the the University of California at Los Angeles, said: "These findings are very striking, and consistent with the idea that brain mechanisms that evolved for relatively basic threat-response functions are re-purposed to also produce ideological reactions."

This seems almost too blatant. I have heard about this type of technology before, but linking American attitudes towards religion and immigration and using pictures of migrants in Calais in the reporting, not to mention why they are studying this to begin with in this particular study, is....odd and disturbing.

Progressivism confirmed for a mental disorder. When can we start putting them in homes?

^^^^

I'm more worried about compulsory 'treatments' on unsuspecting individuals who don't understand the science but are told it treats depression or migraines or something. Or maybe adding new 'tests' to the already long battery of tests used to work up patients. Some way of sneaking this tech into the general population for greater control of 'thought crime'.

Fuck. Seeing videos like this, taken in a small town, just blows my mind.

(10-21-2015 10:38 AM)Austrian Wrote:  I heard an interesting report on the radio recently. It was about Akif Pirincci, an Turkish-German writer, who became famous in the late 1980s with crime literature. Recently, he attracted much controversy because of his anti-immigration and anti-gouvernment rhetoric. Check out his Wiki page and some amusing quotes of him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akif_Pirin%C3%A7ci

Recently he appeared on a Pegida demonstration and spoke there and drew much criticism when he said something among the lines of: "There could be other alternatives. But unfortunately, the concentration camps are not operating" when speaking about the current refugee situation.

I think this statement is absolutely inappropriate, but i think it´s interesting that a person with a migration background would criticize the gouvernment and left-leaning politicians so harshly.

Actually the citation is out of context. It´s a lie of the mass media in Germany. The real thing what he said is that the ruling elite would like to send Germans who do not agree with their policy into KZs. But it´s pitty that they are out of order now so they can´t do it.

The mass media in Germany without exception lied with this citation. These kind of lies are the reason why the media in Germany called by many "Lügenpresse" (Lying press or media).

I can't tell you how much pleasure it gives me, to wake up in my Tempurpedic bed, make a pot of coffee in a quiet house in the suburbs, and open this thread every day.

I'm sitting here like

This thread delivers nonstop. Thanks guys. Watching the live broadcast of leftist insanity being acted out gives me immense pleasure.

Netenyahu just made a statement shifting some of the responsibility for the holocaust off the Germans.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

The masochist Germans then responded by insisting that it was all their fault after all.
http://news.yahoo.com/netanyahu-comments...22970.html

"BAD JUDEN! IT IS WE GERMANS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE! CUCK US! CUCK US AS PUNISHMENT!" -Actual quote from Angela Merkel

(10-21-2015 12:29 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Netenyahu just made a statement shifting some of the responsibility for the holocaust off the Germans.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

Quote:Netanyahu: Hitler Didn't Want to Exterminate the Jews
Prime minister tells World Zionist Congress that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews, but Jerusalem's Grand Mufti convinced him to exterminate them, a claim that was rejected by most accepted Holocaust scholars.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

It's interesting that he came out with a more complete truth - not yet full, but at least more truth than before. In fact there are books written by Rabbis who took part in the negations of the Nazis with big Jewish bankers. Hitler wanted to sell all Jews and it would have happened, but the money lenders had no intention of doing so. That Rabbi realized at that moment that they wanted WW2 and the Holocoust to happen. It was not even about money, because the amount was ridiculous for them and many Jews around the world would have gladly contributed to it. It was about something else entirely.

Merkel should commit suicide already if she hates Germany that much. Somehow it seems to me that she hates Germany more than the Zionists.

Ah Berlusconi - what would you say now:

(10-21-2015 10:35 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

While in a way he excuses Jihad in his talk, he is clearly secular. Also the very elite does not control all political stations at the top. I am also not concerned about secular men like that - guys like him have been in Europe for centuries.

True, Aboutaleb was the one who said in a mosque that muslim fundamentalists who don't feel that they belong here should "fuck off"

(10-21-2015 11:36 AM)Bill Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 10:38 AM)Austrian Wrote:  I heard an interesting report on the radio recently. It was about Akif Pirincci, an Turkish-German writer, who became famous in the late 1980s with crime literature. Recently, he attracted much controversy because of his anti-immigration and anti-gouvernment rhetoric. Check out his Wiki page and some amusing quotes of him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akif_Pirin%C3%A7ci

Recently he appeared on a Pegida demonstration and spoke there and drew much criticism when he said something among the lines of: "There could be other alternatives. But unfortunately, the concentration camps are not operating" when speaking about the current refugee situation.

I think this statement is absolutely inappropriate, but i think it´s interesting that a person with a migration background would criticize the gouvernment and left-leaning politicians so harshly.

Actually the citation is out of context. It´s a lie of the mass media in Germany. The real thing what he said is that the ruling elite would like to send Germans who do not agree with their policy into KZs. But it´s pitty that they are out of order now so they can´t do it.

The mass media in Germany without exception lied with this citation. These kind of lies are the reason why the media in Germany called by many "Lügenpresse" (Lying press or media).

He put that remark in because he predicted that exactly this would happen, of course - and it did. Now even the leftists are acknowledging that the media fucked up, which is a curious thing to see. Of course they're still burning Pirincci at the stake for everything else he said - he's being called mentally ill in various articles, his publisher (for his famous novels, not the political stuff) has terminated his contract, Pegida shut his speech down and apologized, etc. Of course he probably expected all of this to happen. He got rich off his novels so he probably just doesn't care at this point. Either way, he has my respect now.

(10-21-2015 12:29 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Netenyahu just made a statement shifting some of the responsibility for the holocaust off the Germans.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

The masochist Germans then responded by insisting that it was all their fault after all.
http://news.yahoo.com/netanyahu-comments...22970.html

"BAD JUDEN! IT IS WE GERMANS WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE! CUCK US! CUCK US AS PUNISHMENT!" -Actual quote from Angela Merkel

Is that even really true, I remember someone posted that on FB. It blew my mind.

I'm not sure I'd take his word for it, especially if he'd like to try and blame the Palestinians for lighting the fire for the holocaust. (It doesn't surprise me).

I don't trust either side of those fuckers.

(10-21-2015 08:29 AM)Troll King Wrote:  While I find Zelcorpions posts about 'the elite' and so on fascinating, I have often thought those types of theories are a bit far fetched considering a number of different things. Mainly how difficult it would actually be to run or install a one world government or be able to predict with any precision future events. Or hell, even planning out decades in the future...especially if you aren't likely to be alive to see the results of your plans.

...

I know some of this is provided by the government relief agencies, but if you look into it there seems to be a lot of different charities and NGO's behind this. Who is financing it?

Until a couple of months ago, I didn’t pay attention to these “conspiracy theories” either but I’ve seriously reconsidered my point of view.

The Dutch journalist Rein de Vries has released a book titled “Revolutie door schuld” (Revolution through debt).
http://www.bol.com/nl/p/revolutie-door-s...046390002/

Loose translation of the back cover: “The Western financial elite had a far bigger influence on history than is generally accepted. This book highlights their influence on society from a historical and geographical point of view. Step by step it becomes clear how our society is dominated by a small group of people. What are their goals? How do current geopolitical developments fit into history? What is still in store for us? Wars and monetary systems on the verge of bankruptcy are framed in this context. Reality appears to be weirder than fiction.
Where Joris Luyendijks’s book “Dit kan niet waar zijn” stops, this book continues.

Rein de Vries (1976) is an economist who became intrigued by modern history when he discovered some inconsistencies in its generally accepted narrative. His research into the actual facts took multiple years since he kept on discovering new things. The written book was initially meant to be read by a select few but finally the choice was made to publish it.”

And a loose translation of this summary: http://time2wakeup.me/revolutie-door-sch...menleving/
“The book “Revolution by Debt” describes from a historical and geographical perspective how the financial elite has seized control over society. The covered subjects put historical events in a different light. The book uncovers the motives behind wars and financial crises. The book provides insight into the elite's strategy to unite the world under their leadership. The same tactics are repeated over and over again with the same desired effect. Order out of chaos, divide and conquer, and the Hegelian Dialectic historically belong to the standard repertoire of tactics which should lead to total domination and centralization of power.

The elite has put a movement in motion that is difficult to stop. All Western institutions (like the Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg) now work together to unite the Earth under a New World. Countries that refuse to corporate are conquered through regime change. We are currently at a point where the last countries (including Russia, China and Iran) must be added to ensure complete dominance of the elite for the future. Those countries do not corporate, and the world's reserve currency, the dollar, does not have eternal life. That currency is the cornerstone of western hegemony.

Hence, there is now a race against the clock to complete the project. The question is whether they will succeed, and this book shows exactly how we have arrived at this point in our history. From the Illuminati to the Nazis and Bolsheviks and the Fed to the BIS and ECB; everything hangs together. The whole history is not a series of coincidences, but a series of well thought out scenarios in which chance plays a much smaller role than is generally assumed.

But the book has been confined to verifiable truths. The far-reaching conspiracy notions, like those from David Icke, will not be found in this book. Our system has evolved in such a way that, what might seem conspiracy, is actually the most normal thing in the world, with logical explanations. The book proves this and illustrates this viewpoint with quotes from well-known prominent people.

Ultimately, the book describes a future scenario where the world stands at a crossroads. The impending crash of our financial system will cause a big shock. The question is whether the new world order can be completed before this crash or will our society collapse again into an era of war and misery. A third option is that the world becomes aware of this attempt and chooses its own future, without new world order or war. That chance is very small, but this book still hopes to be able to make a small contribution.”

Some of the covered topics:
-Creation of the Bank of England
-French revolution
-Illuminati
-Bolshevik revolution
-Communism and capitalism
-the nascency of Germany
-World War 1
-Weimar Republic
-the rise of Hitler
-the nascency of the United States
-Rockefeller, Rothschild, JP Morgan
-the Federal reserve
-the Council for Foreign Relations (CFR)
-the great depression
-the Bank for International Settlements (BIS)
-World War 2
-CIA
-the EU
-the Bilderberg group
-financial crisises
-Bretton Woods
-the UN
-the IMF
-JFK
-education
-tax free foundations
-the Trilateral Comission
-gold
-Jon Birch Society
-the Iran contra affair
-neocons
-9/11
-Greenspan-Bernanke
-Skull & Bones
-the war on terror,
-Libya
-Syria
-China
-Israel
-zionism
-Russia and Putin
-Ukrain
-world population
-future
This reads a bit like the table of contents of “The Money Masters”.

It’s a hefty book at 565 pages. I have seen some reviews and they are all very positive. Apparently the book is completely based on verifiable facts and not on wild assumptions and crazy conspiracy theories. I will definitely read this one.

"Get that filthy Nazi flag away from me." -Angie Merkel

@PhDre

I tried to find that book from Rein de Vries in English translation but could not find it online. You have any idea if it is available in other languages?

(10-21-2015 03:17 PM)PhDre Wrote:  ....
But the book has been confined to verifiable truths. The far-reaching conspiracy notions, like those from David Icke, will not be found in this book. Our system has evolved in such a way that, what might seem conspiracy, is actually the most normal thing in the world, with logical explanations. The book proves this and illustrates this viewpoint with quotes from well-known prominent people.
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It’s a hefty book at 565 pages. I have seen some reviews and they are all very positive. Apparently the book is completely based on verifiable facts and not on wild assumptions and crazy conspiracy theories. I will definitely read this one.

Nice find. Ay - I can literally make the claim that I can turn each and everyone of you here - except for the government trolls - into "conspiracy buffs". I can give you a list of books and documents ranging into some 10.000+ pages. After you read it and see the information, also some documentaries, you will not view the world in the same light. You will share many or all of my viewpoints. Heck - if I were rich enough I would even pay you to read just for the fun of it. Maybe I will do it one day.

I don't think you guys would be losing your minds like that female lawyer during the 1950s congressional Reece commission on foundations. She had to be institutionalized after perusing the archives of the Ford Foundation and seeing correspondence and irrefutable evidence of what plans the elite are involved in and how readily they kill and sacrifice other men for their pursuits.

Alas - let's return to the topic at hand.

Found this one funny short talk by a Muslim man on Arabic TV:





The guy tells it how it is:

+ Islam came out as conquerors who had nothing to learn, they only had the hubris of being able to teach
+ Almost all advances that we see in our world came from the West. Asia as well piggy-backed off it - without them countries like China or Japan would still be in the same system as in the year 1300. Even Israel is just an offshoot of the West.
+ The commentator interjected: But in terms of human rights, humanity it was an accumulated achievement. But no - the guest said clearly - humanity and human rights was achieved mainly by the West as well.
+ Also he blames Iraqis and the backwards Muslim and Arab mentality for the state in Iraq. The West brutally intervened in Germany and Japan as well, but the people did not start waging bloody clan-wars among each other. (He is right of course. If all people in Iraq were peaceful, then it would already be rebuilt and more stable than ever.)
+ The last sentences I would like to quote verbatim because they are so great:
"In my view over centuries the Arabs believed and continue to believe, that they have sufficient knowledge and wisdom, and that they do not need to learn from others, because they appeared on the stage of history, in order to conquer, not to learn, to teach, not to study. This delusion of Arabs persists to this day, even though the entire world has changed. The world has changed, but they still believe that it is their duty to teach others, and it is the duty of others to heed them. The truth is that the Arabs have nothing to offer others. Yet they continue this horrible delusion, this belief in one's own perfection, the belief that others must learn from them, makes it impossible for them to benefit from modern culture."

Only Muslim Arabs can talk like that to Arabs.

Keep that mentality in mind as you see the future unfold and the millions of migrants make one demand after another. They truly believe that the West which has created almost all advances in science, technology, culture, music, human rights, humanity - that the West has to bow before them and their superior stupendous super-culture.

(Of course I might add that the West has re-discovered partly old concepts of Indian, Persian, Greek, Roman advances, but they still had to piece it together basically from the Middle Ages and create a significant level of progress. Without the West we would be all living in the Middle Ages.)

And here another Muslim intellectual on the same topic:





Keep it coming my Arab brothers in spirit - heh.

(10-21-2015 08:29 AM)Troll King Wrote:  While I find Zelcorpions posts about 'the elite' and so on fascinating, I have often thought those types of theories are a bit far fetched considering a number of different things.

Why? You are limiting your thinking.

I have already mentioned in this thread, that the term 'ruling elite' is used in history to refer to the power structure in a society.

You have allowed yourself to think in a limited way, and when someone says elite, you think "conspiracy theory"(a pejorative term used to shut down discussion).

In Western European society during medieval times, the ruling elite consisted of the nobility(monarchy) and the clergy/church. There was a clear and simple structure to society and you could see who was in charge.

In contemporary Western European society, there is still a ruling elite, but are they the politicians or are they the CEOs? Or do the CEOs have people they answer to? I would argue that the EU bureaucrats are a part of the current ruling elite, because they are so powerful they can bypass the democratic process, they are not elected, yet they rule Europe.

It's very complex and not as simple and clear cut as medieval society. You can make up your own mind who you think is making the decisions. Those who are in charge of society, are the ruling elite, but they aren't as visible as Popes and Kings.

We must stop thinking in limited ways. Being part of this forum means stepping out of the matrix and seeing women for how they really are. I think it can extend to stepping out of other matrixs and seeing things objectively, for how they really are.

(10-21-2015 12:46 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(10-21-2015 12:29 PM)iop890 Wrote:  Netenyahu just made a statement shifting some of the responsibility for the holocaust off the Germans.
http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

Quote:Netanyahu: Hitler Didn't Want to Exterminate the Jews
Prime minister tells World Zionist Congress that Hitler only wanted to expel the Jews, but Jerusalem's Grand Mufti convinced him to exterminate them, a claim that was rejected by most accepted Holocaust scholars.

read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681525

It's interesting that he came out with a more complete truth - not yet full, but at least more truth than before. In fact there are books written by Rabbis who took part in the negations of the Nazis with big Jewish bankers. Hitler wanted to sell all Jews and it would have happened, but the money lenders had no intention of doing so. That Rabbi realized at that moment that they wanted WW2 and the Holocoust to happen. It was not even about money, because the amount was ridiculous for them and many Jews around the world would have gladly contributed to it. It was about something else entirely.

Merkel should commit suicide already if she hates Germany that much. Somehow it seems to me that she hates Germany more than the Zionists.

Ah Berlusconi - what would you say now:

Come on, you don't actually believe that crap Netanyahu is saying?

The mufti guy was happy to side with Hitler because it meant he had a strong opponent against Britain, who were controlling Palestine at the time. It's the same as when people say Ghandi is bad because he sided with Hitler. Look at the context, he wanted a strong ally against the people trying to rule India, the British.

Netanyahu is full of crap and will say anything to get what he wants.