I'd say you're 100% right to demand she quit cigarettes for good.

She seems like a great catch as far as an American woman goes especially with what the future will hold which seems to be getting worse as far as quality women.

I'd rather my chick smoke a little weed than be a wino. Drinking will make her age and be more emotionally numb, weed won't age her and will make her more chill. Definitely a better choice between the two.

I'd say if you like living in the U.S. where you live and want kids it may be the right time to lock it down and knock her up before she drifts away.

I have thought about this a lot. The relationship may not work out and probably won't if you look at statistics over the long haul, if she would be a good mom and never try to separate you from the kids in the future even if you break up then you can have both.

Be a father with a good mother, then do the player thing for the rest of your life after if it doesn't work out and not have regrets about either since you got both a family and playerdom.

This is kind of the current life I lead in a nutshell

By default (divorce) I am a single dad who enjoys the benefits of being single with any future plans of going back into a marriage.

I didn't become a father until I was 29, later if you contrast that with a lot of my peers. It did give me time to become more established, and mature while observing some of the mistakes and successes others experienced.

For a younger guy like yourself, the key is to weigh out the benefits and what you truly see for yourself. You cannot allow yourself to be pressured into a situation to appease someone's wishes no matter how logical they may be.

If in fact you are ready to progress to the next step, then by all means. The issue some guys run into is trying to satisfy their woman's wishes without being fully aboard with both feet in the boat.

Unfortunately, nothing stays the same even for a player in this life

Look into the future - do you see her in your life 5,10...20 years down the line?

If so, you have your answer

Trav,

Yeah that’s exactly what I told her, you gotta quit smoking. One thing is her entire family smokes, which would be hard for her to quit.

I don’t mind the weed, it’s never been a problem, and it’s never around me. (I don’t burn).

I don’t mind where I live – I don’t mind the states. She seems like she’d be a good mother, the fact she planning this and is a bit afraid shows me she has a genuine passion to have children.

Then MDP speaks up,

I’d be in the exact age range if I was to become a father (granted I’m already here). I don’t think I’d get married, I think I’d just have children.

That’s a huge thing, I don’t want to be pressured into having children.

To be honest, I’m quite afraid of the extreme change in my life, I don’t know what the outcome might.

I truly don’t know if I want children yet or not. I enjoy spinning plates and banging women, I enjoy the chase.

However, I do enjoy my LTR, she definitely complements my life.

I wouldn’t want to satisfy her wishes, I want my self to say, "you know what ? I’d make a great fucking father and I want to have a son."

Another thing I fear is having a daughter aka Player’s Luck (all of my player friends who have kids have daughters.)

For the longest time I never would think of a girl in the future (I felt like it was putting her on the pedestal by romanticizing marriage and children).

Yeah I can see her in my life, I just don't know about the marriage and children. I do care for her a lot, but I just never see women that far out.

I don't know if what I'm saying makes sense...

Being scared of change is normal, those feelings are real. I remember them like it was yesterday. Be sure not to suppress that voice of reason within that says 'speak up'.

Non players and those not familiar with some of thr truths we toss around here will be quick to tell you that you're just scared to grow up or afraid of responsibilty, but each man must choose his own path in his own time. Not on the time or opinion of others

Thats the real truth that escapes even the most well-intentioned.

I feel you Kaotic, i am in almost exactly the same situation as you. I'm 29, have a main girl (thankfully 10 years younger than me so no biological clock urgency just yet) who is banging and adores me but I still like spinning plates and chasing other girls. I was thinking the other day about the future because having kids is something I want to do one day.

All the advice I have ever been given about having kids is that you are never ready. You will always feel like you need more money, a better job, bigger house, etc or you are simply enjoying your life as it is now. So it generally turns out to be something that happens to you almost by accident and then you just deal with.
I remember when I was with my ex we got to the stage where if she'd gotten pregnant we would have kept the baby since we both felt like we could make it work. It wasn't like we were actively trying to have kids, just that we felt like we could deal with it if it happened.

Anyway, my 2 cents is:
- Don't let yourself get pressured by her into having kids if you don't want them. It is a long term commitment and will drastically change your life so you need to go into it with both eyes open.
- Make her quite smoking. I don't know how you've put up with that for this long and it's not something you can allow if she's going to have kids.
- Make sure she isn't doing it just to fill some kind of emptiness or lack of fulfillment in her life. She needs to really understand what it will entail.
- If you do decided to have kids look at what family support will be available, either yours or hers. Raising kids is a lot easier if you've got family around to help out.

Does anyone feel a strong surge of anxiety/nervousness right before meeting a girl, or while texting a girl to come over? No clue why this is suddenly happening to me, but it's a little upsetting. It's also weird cause I've been getting laid pretty well, so I don't understand why I'm suddenly developing random anxiety while dealing with women.

Man, seems like the Game forum is dead compared to the Everything Else forum. There are threads on the first page here all the way from a week back. What happened

(10-15-2015 05:36 AM)civpro Wrote:  Man, seems like the Game forum is dead compared to the Everything Else forum. There are threads on the first page here all the way from a week back. What happened

The Game forum gets plenty of use--it just tends to concentrate in fewer threads than, say, the Everything Goes forum.

Something has happened, or, possibly has happened, in the last few days that I've been wondering for years if it ever would happen.

I might, maybe, have seen a girl I've banged in an amateur porn video.

I dislike most commercial porn, so if I'm going to watch porn I usually watch the homemade amateur stuff. So I was clicking around on one of the big porntube sites and came across an amateur compilation. Watched a few short scenes, then there was a video of a woman giving a guy a BJ on a bed. The guy was lying down, and holding his phone to shoot the girl, who was lying on his legs. I could only see the top of her head and her face at a high angle. But then she started making sounds and gave a little laugh. I jumped and thought "That sounds just like M!". The sounds she was making and in particular the laugh- a sort of sexually knowing little laugh- were exactly like a girl I'm currently banging.

I backed up the video and watched it again several times. I now think there's a 75% chance it's the same person.

My evidence:

The hair type, style, color are exactly the same as my girl's, and length is only a little longer in the video.

I can only see the face and body from a high angle, but what I can see is consistent with my girl's.

The video girl does a particular BJ move that is identical to one my girl often uses.

The voice sounds the same, and that laugh is very distinct.

The video girl is sucking on a BBC, and my girl has made jokes a couple of times while we were eating that she sometimes "likes dark meat."

I'm definitely not going to show it to her, so I'll never know for sure......

Have any of you guys known of girls who showed up in homemade internet porn?

(10-15-2015 10:35 AM)MrXY Wrote:  I might, maybe, have seen a girl I've banged in an amateur porn video.

Haha kidding man! But it would be beneficial to the forum at large if we had a way to investigate this allegation ourselves

^ Hai, hai. My buddy's girlfriend is an amateur porn star. I haven't hung out with him a while (he doesn't hit me up much) though. I remember the last time I was over we were talking in british accent and she called me daddy.

(10-14-2015 11:00 PM)Agastya Wrote:  Does anyone feel a strong surge of anxiety/nervousness right before meeting a girl, or while texting a girl to come over? No clue why this is suddenly happening to me, but it's a little upsetting. It's also weird cause I've been getting laid pretty well, so I don't understand why I'm suddenly developing random anxiety while dealing with women.

If you're about to meet a girl, go to the gym before the date.

Puts me in a great mood and I'm less anxious, especially after a post meal workout.

When you're texting, take a deep breath, write the text, then take another deep breath, review your text to make sure it has the best impact and send it.

Sounds like you've got a bit of anxiety you need to release.

(10-14-2015 11:00 PM)Agastya Wrote:  Does anyone feel a strong surge of anxiety/nervousness right before meeting a girl, or while texting a girl to come over? No clue why this is suddenly happening to me, but it's a little upsetting. It's also weird cause I've been getting laid pretty well, so I don't understand why I'm suddenly developing random anxiety while dealing with women.

I've been on hundreds of first dates and no matter how many I go on I still get a little anxious right up to when I meet the girl. Once we've greeted each other it goes all alway and I settle in to work so to speak. If you follow professional sports at all even the greatest athletes of all time get nervous before a big performance. It's normal and your body's way of telling you to get ready for the moment and give it your best effort.

Absolutely OTSC it indeed goes away - honestly, it's kind of fun being nervous

You get that rush, your senses are honed in, you become razor sharp, and you're focused.

I love the chase, I love the rush of beating out LMR, then smiling in the mirror washing up after a bang.


Speaking of that I banged that fit mom last night, gotta write up a report.

(10-15-2015 12:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Speaking of that I banged that fit mom last night, gotta write up a report.

Can't wait to read about it man. I know many guys on here have little regard or interest in anything over 24 years old, especially women with kids but to me, hands down, nothing gets me going more than an exceptionally hot, fit mom. I think it's because they've beaten the odds in a sense. So many things can go wrong when women have kids. Stretch marks, flabby skin, chubbiness, blown out pussy, beaten down look, you name it. But when a woman escapes all of that unscathed it's just, ...special

Someone quoted mixx saying "abs are made in the kitchen, not the gym."

I've been opening girls wearing crop tops with fit stomachs by just adding "I've heard that .... would you agree?" Probably better suited for night time, but it's easy to approach with.

(10-15-2015 01:01 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 12:40 PM)kaotic Wrote:  Speaking of that I banged that fit mom last night, gotta write up a report.

Can't wait to read about it man.

Ask and you shall receive:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-11951...pid1131075

(10-15-2015 12:00 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(10-14-2015 11:00 PM)Agastya Wrote:  Does anyone feel a strong surge of anxiety/nervousness right before meeting a girl, or while texting a girl to come over? No clue why this is suddenly happening to me, but it's a little upsetting. It's also weird cause I've been getting laid pretty well, so I don't understand why I'm suddenly developing random anxiety while dealing with women.

I've been on hundreds of first dates and no matter how many I go on I still get a little anxious right up to when I meet the girl. Once we've greeted each other it goes all alway and I settle in to work so to speak. If you follow professional sports at all even the greatest athletes of all time get nervous before a big performance. It's normal and your body's way of telling you to get ready for the moment and give it your best effort.

Same as OTSC, I still get nervous before every first date, usually on the drive to the meet. However once I meet her it disappears and I'm in game mode.
When I first started out I almost bugged out on every date but I always pushed through and it worked out fine. I might not have gotten the bang but I've never had a truly horrible experience.

As Kaotic says, go to the gym before a date. I find this really helps me clear my head, get pumped up and get into a good state of mind. It's a much bigger effort for me to muster up the energy for a good date if I haven't hit the gym before hand.

(10-15-2015 08:31 AM)Col. Tigh Wrote:  

(10-15-2015 05:36 AM)civpro Wrote:  Man, seems like the Game forum is dead compared to the Everything Else forum. There are threads on the first page here all the way from a week back. What happened

The Game forum gets plenty of use--it just tends to concentrate in fewer threads than, say, the Everything Goes forum.

There's definitely a certain quieting down as the original generation of this forum, like Roosh, Travesty, and kaotic (just to name the first that came to my mind) age and being looking for ways to settle down more. I'm seeing a number of threads in all the major categories now on this subject, and many of the more respected forum members are moving that way, or contemplating the idea of successful fatherhood in our modern world.

...and of course kaotic comes back with a hilarious and unbelievable bang report to counter my point

I think it's mainly 'cause the forum has game pretty much cracked and nailed down.

It feels odd just saying the same things over and over again.

I've been talking to a girl online for a few days and after some exchanges she informed me she's in a wheelchair. This was not apparent from her pics; there are a couple of pics of her sitting down but you can't tell it's a wheelchair she's sitting in.

I'm not sure where to go with this. She's cute and seems fit; she has legs and they don't look atrophied or deformed. Should I try to bang? I would feel bad about doing a smash and dash on a disabled woman, but would I actually want to date a woman who can't walk? Can she have sex? How would I even bring up the issue? Maybe she just craves some dick and doesn't even care about a relationship. How would I position her for sex? I guess she would know...

Does anyone know anything about this situation?

(10-16-2015 01:51 PM)MrXY Wrote:  I've been talking to a girl online for a few days and after some exchanges she informed me she's in a wheelchair. This was not apparent from her pics; there are a couple of pics of her sitting down but you can't tell it's a wheelchair she's sitting in.

I'm not sure where to go with this. She's cute and seems fit; she has legs and they don't look atrophied or deformed. Should I try to bang? I would feel bad about doing a smash and dash on a disabled woman, but would I actually want to date a woman who can't walk? Can she have sex? How would I even bring up the issue? Maybe she just craves some dick and doesn't even care about a relationship. How would I position her for sex? I guess she would know...

Does anyone know anything about this situation?

Odds are she knows the score and her situation, knowing most men would fuck her but wouldn't date her.

You can always probe and bait to get intel on dating history and then turn it into a sex convo.

I'd bet money she's DTF, hopefully you don't have swap out a urine and or colostomy bag !

-Yeah I'm definitely going to hell.

On a more serious note, I would feel like a dick pumping and dumping a girl in a wheelchair because is most likely a nice and genuine girl. You never know though. She could be a raging slut rolling through new dick daily.

I think at the very least it's worth you doing a little more due diligence to find out what exactly her situation is, both physically and what her expectations are from dating. To me when I run across a woman that I want to bang but know from the jump I have no intentions of dating seriously I hit them immediately with the "I just got out of a relationship so I'm definitely not looking for anything more than fun" declaration and from there my conscience is absolved and good to go.

If you end up talking with her and are interested in meeting up I would definitely keep it simple and quick like coffee or ice cream and tell her before you meet her that you have only a half hour before you need to go meet/do x. That way if she rolls up (sorry couldn't resist ) and you see that it's a no go you're only on the hook for 30 mins and won't look like a heartless dick for bailing on her. On the other hand if you're pleasantly surprised you're free to game her like any other woman.