Post: #4826

(10-11-2015 09:37 AM)XPQ21 Wrote:  It took a LOT of grinding to get to this point, though. It took me three months to even get my first lay off the site, and I've probably spent at least an hour or two 7 days a week all summer sending openers, blah blahing with women, getting numbers, working contacts, getting random abuse, having dates that I feel went well and getting blown out for seconds, watching people go ghost on me and so on.

How many girls did you message before you scored, do you know?

Post: #4827

(10-11-2015 07:51 AM)civpro Wrote:  I've said this before in my posts across this forum, but I wanna say it again: it blows my mind how okc gets continually worse with each passing moment. There is no end to this pattern and every time I've used it over the last 2 years, just as if you think it can't get any harder the next time... it does. In 2013 it used to piss me off that I'd have to message 300 girls to get a date. Looking back from 2015 that seems like heaven to me: now I have to message 600 girls just to get a phone number.

The level of saturation keeps spiraling down and down as if there is no limit whatsoever. Read message rates, view profile rates, first reply rates, subsequent reply rates, quickmatch rates, unsolicited message rates, full inbox rates, fatty rates, polyamory rates, tranny rates, etc. keep going deeper down the shitter.

But certainly something's got to give, no?

What has to give? Their business model is completely female-centered. OKCupid bills itself mainly as a site to form a connection with someone and forge a long term relationship. Without all those "match" questions and personality profiles you just have a hookup app like Tinder.

I'm sure there are some women who use it the way it's "intended", but the primary purpose of OKCupid is to earn revenue for it's owners (and eventually shareholders if it does an IPO as planned) via acting as a validation engine for women. Due to this, it becomes more and more like Facebook Lite every day.

Think about it - if I wanted to construct a dating site to pull the maximum amount of revenue, how would I do it? It would certainly not be by adding features that attracted people with "secure" attachment styles who would rapidly settle into healthy relationships with each other and bounce from the site.

No, what I would want is a core base of moderately attractive women in their "prime bangable years" of 18-35 who are seeking validation/attention and not terribly interested in forming real relationships with people. The classic "dismissive-avoidant" attachment style that among women of that age group appears to be becoming the primary attachment pathology.

A site like OKC is like crystal meth to this 'core base' of girls, they get hit after hit off the validation pipe, and there's about as much chance of them deactivating their profile as there is of them wiping their Facebook page. I know a woman like this who wasn't currently in a relationship and tried to deactivate her profile - She lasted two weeks before she caved. They can't quit the drug.

Sure, many of them do date and don't actually just use the site to make pen pals. But they always come back eventually. This base is the bait that is used to reel the guys in, who then pay for the site's "premium features" in an attempt to make headway with these chicks. Men may get disillusioned and drop out, but as long as male thirst exists, there will always be another sucker in line to take their place.

It's a great scam because the product they're providing basically does all the work in selling the fantasy. All the creators have to do is make sure the product always feels comfortable and keeps getting their hits.

Post: #4828

Quote:How many girls did you message before you scored, do you know?

I don't have an exact count, because I haven't saved every conversation or opener I sent. Sometimes I was just too disgusted with the way something went and I deleted it.

I didn't get a single date for about the first month I was on the site because I didn't know what the hell I was doing. It took me five first dates before I finally got laid, though that one was just a ONS where she nexted me afterwards.

My guess would be somewhere around 150 openers in that period, which might not seem that many. But I don't do "spam" openers. Like writing a resume for a job I usually don't make a brand new one for each application; I have a few "themes" I like to work from, and mix them up on the fly to suit the 'feel' I'm getting from a girl's profile and to do the all important "include something about my profile to indicate you've read my profile!" thing.

I've become pretty good at it, and I now try to keep my time from clicking on a woman's picture that I like, skimming her profile, and firing off an interesting/witty opener to under 90 seconds, because even when I try to choose my targets well and compose the opener carefully, I'd say my response rate isn't much better than 25%. Just the way it is.

Even so, if you're sending good openers and have a decent profile you should be getting a fair number of responses, so it's not really sending openers that's time consuming - it's the process of working those responses and having to chat a little bit on the site that then segues into asking for a number/date, and then having to "comfort build" a little bit via text/phone before the scheduled date, often with multiple women at the same time. And many women will get weeded out during this process as just tire-kickers/attention whores, but any chick who you've even tentatively set up a date with on Tuesday for the next Saturday is going to atleast want to text with you a little bit sometime during the week to get a feel for you, and that's time consuming.

She might text you at 9 in the morning to ask how you're doing or what you're up to, and while you don't (and shouldn't!) have to get back to her immediately you gotta do it at some point to hold her interest. Sometimes I've had four girls in my phone who all suddenly want to hit me up to say hello some evening when all I really want to do is read or work or, surf the web, but I know I have to ping all of them because I don't know which ones are going to flake. That's the time consuming and annoying part.

And I'm still terrible at closing.

I've posted this link before but it probably deserves another read :-)

http://www.blackdragonblog.com/2014/11/1...a-failure/

Post: #4829

The common denominator for the (admittedly few) women I've had the most success with is a limited need for external validation - relatively small Facebook friend counts, not texting on the phone every 5 seconds, having a non-iPhone or older phone in general, a job in a field like medicine or the service industry where they can't just sit around in a SWPL cube all day and text or browse dating sites, ability to shut down their account for at least weeks, if not months at a time and have it not really bother them, and so on.

Post: #4830

(10-11-2015 10:41 AM)XPQ21 Wrote:  My guess would be somewhere around 150 openers in that period, which might not seem that many.

Only 150 messages to get a lay? LOL you have no right to complain.

Post: #4831

Civpro, what location are you in? And it's been said before, I think mr xy or hot wheels, I always mix them up, that online dating is like a weird machine with a crank handle on it and a lot of women in the machine and some of them want to have sex with you. The faster you turn the crank handle, the more often it will spit out a woman that wants to have sex with you. You can't get too butt hurt about the process and not getting laid off of it.

In Los Angeles, I can speak for a fact that okcupid has got much harder this year, compared to 2013 just getting any sort of response at all. And this is after having maxxed out my looks and photos and having a well written profile. This should definitely not be your main method of gaming women, if a woman is a 6 in real life, she will be treated like an 8 or 9 on the online dating, especially if you are in Los Angeles or another major metropolitan area.

Post: #4832

I think 2010 or 2011 was the peak year for how easy it was to get laid. And I am talking probably anywhere on the planet. Online dating was newer and wasn't as main stream. Girls would answer their phone much more easily and weren't as socially retarded.

Instagram and Snapchat weren't a thing. Not everyone had a smart phone yet only some, but the pace of dating was starting to increase.

Tinder was just starting up 2012.

Now this is all old hat. Girls get more attention, even the mediocre looking homebody introverted book worms than they know what to do with.

This cannot get better unless there is a genetic modification or sex robot revolution. It will only get worse.

There are way too many guys on this board that are an example of a guy having a LTR and still having multiple plates on the side and many times banging out 6's for fresh ass.

There is no one-to-one ratio.

Post: #4833

I would only add that most of those girls from 2010/2011 are now the grizzled veterans of online dating, and in seeking to reinvent or redeem themselves (take your pick) are now hell bent on finding a LTR to justify all the vagina and bj's they've given away during their tenure

But like any gambler down big on the strip in Vegas, they will find it nearly impossible to recoup

Post: #4834

(10-12-2015 12:42 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  I would only add that most of those girls from 2010/2011 are now the grizzled veterans of online dating, and in seeking to reinvent or redeem themselves (take your pick) are now hell bent on finding a LTR to justify all the vagina and bj's they've given away during their tenure

But like any gambler down big on the strip in Vegas, they will find it nearly impossible to recoup

There are a lot of these in the late 20s-early 30s demographic I usually end up interacting with, unfortunately. They'll fall all over themselves to tell you how the other men in their past were assholes, jerks, and douchebags, but now they've found themselves and are looking for "something real".



Easy to get out on first dates, fairly hard to get out on seconds/lay when they realize that you're not the LTR material they're looking for.

I'd very much prefer to work prospects that are under 26 at the outside, but that seems a very difficult demographic to crack on OKCupid for a guy in his 30s as you're basically competing with everyone. Real life game is likely easier for them, or maybe one of the other dating apps. I've never tried Tinder or Bumble but I'm thinking about giving them a shot.

Post: #4835

It’s nice to see that I’m not the only one who has noticed OKC has fallen off a cliff in 2015.

The biggest measurable shift I’ve seen is in the amount of new users per a week/month for this year. I’ve looked at the “Who’s New” profiles pretty intently off and on for several years with the same fixed parameters and there has been a HUGE drop in legit new profiles being created compared to 1 or 2 years ago. Makes sense given the rise of Tinder over the last few years.

Other things I’ve noticed:

1. Increased cuntitude by chicks.

2. More resistance to phone closing early on. Use to be a pretty sure thing if a chick shot me back a solid single reply, I could number close her in the next message and get the number most of the time. Now, they go radio silent even after 2-3 solid messages with a warm vibe. Perhaps now too many bitches have had a bad experience giving their number out to an online guy early on and are more defensive now?

3. Good quality chicks get swooped and are off the site within a month; sometimes in 1-2 weeks after meeting an LTR prospect or more likely, get overwhelmed and sick of the online dating bullshit. The only chicks who stay are the narcissist attention whores and weirdos; with a few random gems thrown in (usually in small isolated towns that are too damn far to drive to).

4. While I think OKC and online dating has major issues unique to it, I also think a general shift in the dating market (for the worse) occurred sometime in 2015. More fat chicks, worse ratios, increased thirst, increased cuntitude, and the economy improving for certain classes of men and women (meaning standards going up) just leads to a tougher arena to pull from. Any negative push in the real life market dating market is obviously going to be felt in the online dating world as well. Since online has always been uphill battle, even minor negative effects are going to be pretty devastating when the experienced online guys average a 10-20% response rate.

Having been to several US cities in the past year, I think the only place OKC is probably worth a damn on a regular basis anymore is NYC. The sheer number of prospects there makes running online game pretty straight forward without too much time investment. ENDLESS amounts of 6/7’s, good ratios, many down to fuck with no games or bullshit, numbers come easy, aggressive about meeting. NYC was paradise for online game. Several other small/medium/large towns I’ve been to? Total shitshows. I’ll get numbers (I got 5 from online in the last 2 days – NOT NYC) but the quality just isn’t there for the amount of effort and time

Based on the phone calls I’ve had with women I’ve pulled numbers from online, I’d say the vast majority are socially retarded / boring / stupid / cunty /dull as fuck. 1 or 2 years ago, I’d get that as well but not nearly in such great numbers; it was balanced out by some semi-decent chicks. Today? The juice just isn’t worth the squeeze anymore and I’m about to close the book on OKC.

Post: #4836

(10-12-2015 05:48 AM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

(10-12-2015 12:42 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  I would only add that most of those girls from 2010/2011 are now the grizzled veterans of online dating, and in seeking to reinvent or redeem themselves (take your pick) are now hell bent on finding a LTR to justify all the vagina and bj's they've given away during their tenure

But like any gambler down big on the strip in Vegas, they will find it nearly impossible to recoup

There are a lot of these in the late 20s-early 30s demographic I usually end up interacting with, unfortunately. They'll fall all over themselves to tell you how the other men in their past were assholes, jerks, and douchebags, but now they've found themselves and are looking for "something real".



Easy to get out on first dates, fairly hard to get out on seconds/lay when they realize that you're not the LTR material they're looking for.

I'd very much prefer to work prospects that are under 26 at the outside, but that seems a very difficult demographic to crack on OKCupid for a guy in his 30s as you're basically competing with everyone. Real life game is likely easier for them, or maybe one of the other dating apps. I've never tried Tinder or Bumble but I'm thinking about giving them a shot.

I hear ya man. An under 26 chick online is a tough one to pull. 23 year olds are good bets and I've had A LOT success with that specific age cohort. Fresh out of college, first time dealing with adult problems, cut off from old social circles, perhaps new to town = ripe for an older man to come in and swoop in. 24-26 = cuntitude factor goes up considerably. And like you said, late 20s/early 30s broads? You HAVE to run provider/LTR game on them. Act like you are ready to settle down and eject after the bang or whenever. That's assuming you even want it.

Me? I generally only put in that type of effort for a super hot chick and even then, I rather focus my energy on 23 year olds. I can't stand these older sluts who think I'm gonna jump through hoops for their worn out looks and pussy. As far as I'm concerned, they should feel privilege to even touch my dick.

Post: #4837

I agree online has gotten a lot tougher. I can still get bangs from it but the effort per bang has gone way up. The ROI seems just barely worth it now. 2010-2013 was good, with 2011-2012 being the peak for me. I did well even in my smaller area, guys in big cities must have killed it. I know Soup got 100 bangs in NYC in 2013 and the large majority of those were from online.

Most women who are amenable to online dating have been doing it for years now and taken a surfeit of cocks and are jaded. It's much harder to get a SNL from a first drink meeting than previously. A lot of them are back to the multiple dates wanting to be courted model. They feel like mini celebrities given all the attention and praise they receive online from chumps. But men with game and standards are unwilling to put in the investment these women demand because they know they aren't worth it. So there is a mismatch of expectations and assessments in the dating market; sort of a price dysfunction. Average women think they are entitled to a high value man and to a substantial investment from that man, while high value men with options know that the women's value is far less. Women are trying to sell beat up 1992 Ford Taurus's for the price of a new sedan and discerning men aren't having it. They are willing to pay a little to rent the car for a weekend when it suits their needs but certainly aren't going to buy it.


I don't see things getting better, since as others have pointed out, social media in general makes money off of inflating women's egos. Probably a new app will come along in the next couple of years with some novel feature that will be the hot new thing for awhile and initially attract women who are more DTF. That seems to be the pattern.

Post: #4838

Quote:Having been to several US cities in the past year, I think the only place OKC is probably worth a damn on a regular basis anymore is NYC. The sheer number of prospects there makes running online game pretty straight forward without too much time investment. ENDLESS amounts of 6/7’s, good ratios, many down to fuck with no games or bullshit, numbers come easy, aggressive about meeting. NYC was paradise for online game. Several other small/medium/large towns I’ve been to? Total shitshows. I’ll get numbers (I got 5 from online in the last 2 days – NOT NYC) but the quality just isn’t there for the amount of effort and time

Based on the phone calls I’ve had with women I’ve pulled numbers from online, I’d say the vast majority are socially retarded / boring / stupid / cunty /dull as fuck. 1 or 2 years ago, I’d get that as well but not nearly in such great numbers; it was balanced out by some semi-decent chicks. Today? The juice just isn’t worth the squeeze anymore and I’m about to close the book on OKC.

I think the only reason I'm having any success at all is because I live within striking distance of two major Northeast cities with 1 million+ population. I'll always be at a disadvantage so long as I live in the 'burbs - I basically HAVE to put my radius up to 30 miles or so to find attractive women who aren't boring and are interested in moving things along towards sex without a lot of games. And even with that large a population to choose from, quite a few of the women I try to message turn out to have full mailboxes. These are chicks who you might glance at once on the street and say "hm she looks kinda cute" and then forget about five minutes later.

As I said, it took me basically the entire summer of putting in a decent amount of effort each day to find just a couple women who were both interested in sex who wanted to see me repeatedly and not provider hunting, or weird, or overweight, or mental, or boring, or abusive, and so on. And I have to keep playing, of course, because these women also know they're valuable for that reason, so who knows how long before they'll stop returning my texts and fade out - it could be tomorrow.

But maybe we should try to avoid turning this thread into just general griping. It's never going to be easy. What particular strategies work, at a deeper level than the stuff most beginners already know? I've never done the online thing during the dead of winter, how should one's strategy change with the seasons?

(I actually just tried out the 'Monday restart text' today with an OKC woman who I had a first date with last week that seemed to go well, but then she got 'busy with work' after I tried to set up another one, so I chilled out until today. I just got a response saying she wants to go out again, so let's close!)

Post: #4839

(10-11-2015 10:15 PM)eradicator Wrote:  Civpro, what location are you in?

Toronto, but it's the same elsewhere (Ottawa, Montreal).

Post: #4840

(10-12-2015 12:37 PM)XPQ21 Wrote:  

Quote:Having been to several US cities in the past year, I think the only place OKC is probably worth a damn on a regular basis anymore is NYC. The sheer number of prospects there makes running online game pretty straight forward without too much time investment. ENDLESS amounts of 6/7’s, good ratios, many down to fuck with no games or bullshit, numbers come easy, aggressive about meeting. NYC was paradise for online game. Several other small/medium/large towns I’ve been to? Total shitshows. I’ll get numbers (I got 5 from online in the last 2 days – NOT NYC) but the quality just isn’t there for the amount of effort and time

Based on the phone calls I’ve had with women I’ve pulled numbers from online, I’d say the vast majority are socially retarded / boring / stupid / cunty /dull as fuck. 1 or 2 years ago, I’d get that as well but not nearly in such great numbers; it was balanced out by some semi-decent chicks. Today? The juice just isn’t worth the squeeze anymore and I’m about to close the book on OKC.

I think the only reason I'm having any success at all is because I live within striking distance of two major Northeast cities with 1 million+ population . I'll always be at a disadvantage so long as I live in the 'burbs - I basically HAVE to put my radius up to 30 miles or so to find attractive women who aren't boring and are interested in moving things along towards sex without a lot of games. And even with that large a population to choose from, quite a few of the women I try to message turn out to have full mailboxes. These are chicks who you might glance at once on the street and say "hm she looks kinda cute" and then forget about five minutes later.

As I said, it took me basically the entire summer of putting in a decent amount of effort each day to find just a couple women who were both interested in sex who wanted to see me repeatedly and not provider hunting, or weird, or overweight, or mental, or boring, or abusive, and so on. And I have to keep playing, of course, because these women also know they're valuable for that reason, so who knows how long before they'll stop returning my texts and fade out - it could be tomorrow.

But maybe we should try to avoid turning this thread into just general griping. It's never going to be easy. What particular strategies work, at a deeper level than the stuff most beginners already know? I've never done the online thing during the dead of winter, how should one's strategy change with the seasons?

(I actually just tried out the 'Monday restart text' today with an OKC woman who I had a first date with last week that seemed to go well, but then she got 'busy with work' after I tried to set up another one, so I chilled out until today. I just got a response saying she wants to go out again, so let's close!)

Well, if are in the burbs (and believe me, I know the pitfalls of running online game from the burbs), I would increase your radius for starters to at least 50 or 75 (type it in manually in the URL bar). The only advantage you have living in the burbs is easier access to various other suburban/exburb/small town chicks. Trying to compete for city chicks or chicks who are socially connected to the city is mostly a waste of time in my view. An online chick in a small town that you are physically closer to vs a city guy is your best bet. But the quantity of options are slim so you have to swoop these chicks quick.

Try that. Hope it helps.

Post: #4841

This site and my city....everything you've guys said hits the nail on the head. I've been on and off this site for a while. Only ROI I had was a year ago. I had a brief (summer/autmn) relationship that I ended because of distance and other bs. 6s of all shades are even tough to get on this thing.

Dating has definitely changed...I can't say for the better though.

Also I've messed around with a-list for a little bit. I usually do searches for above average-hot. A lot of the chicks are either basic (netflix at home with cats or whale that is a foodie). So far I've managed more profile visits but that's really about it. So...XPQ21, I can definitely relate to the amount of effort you put in.

I've been working to tune my profile a bit, but its like writing drafts to a book. Some stories, profiles will only hook certain types of girls...therefore a lot of effort on your part...little on theirs.

Post: #4842

(10-12-2015 09:43 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  Also I've messed around with a-list for a little bit. I usually do searches for above average-hot. A lot of the chicks are either basic (netflix at home with cats or whale that is a foodie). So far I've managed more profile visits but that's really about it. So...XPQ21, I can definitely relate to the amount of effort you put in.

I'm glad I got a bit of results while I did. There was a period in the early summer, late June/early July, where my response rate was crazy - I was getting a reply to perhaps one in four or even one in three openers that I sent, even from 7s and 8s.

Now that the winter is coming, and girls have perhaps gotten busy with school or work or have shacked up with their winter LTR/FBs, my response rate has collapsed. I just checked and I got only two replies to the last 25 messages I sent, both from women who weren't terribly attractive and who were barely interested.

I think I'm going to try one of the other dating apps for a while to switch things up.

Post: #4843

I only send messages to girls who "like" my profile. Their response rate and number conversion are both pretty high. If I can get them out, I get the bang within at most two dates. If I don't, then I drop them.

Post: #4844

(10-12-2015 11:00 AM)MrXY Wrote:  I agree online has gotten a lot tougher. I can still get bangs from it but the effort per bang has gone way up. The ROI seems just barely worth it now. 2010-2013 was good, with 2011-2012 being the peak for me. I did well even in my smaller area, guys in big cities must have killed it. I know Soup got 100 bangs in NYC in 2013 and the large majority of those were from online.

Most women who are amenable to online dating have been doing it for years now and taken a surfeit of cocks and are jaded. It's much harder to get a SNL from a first drink meeting than previously. A lot of them are back to the multiple dates wanting to be courted model. They feel like mini celebrities given all the attention and praise they receive online from chumps. But men with game and standards are unwilling to put in the investment these women demand because they know they aren't worth it. So there is a mismatch of expectations and assessments in the dating market; sort of a price dysfunction. Average women think they are entitled to a high value man and to a substantial investment from that man, while high value men with options know that the women's value is far less. Women are trying to sell beat up 1992 Ford Taurus's for the price of a new sedan and discerning men aren't having it. They are willing to pay a little to rent the car for a weekend when it suits their needs but certainly aren't going to buy it.


I don't see things getting better, since as others have pointed out, social media in general makes money off of inflating women's egos. Probably a new app will come along in the next couple of years with some novel feature that will be the hot new thing for awhile and initially attract women who are more DTF. That seems to be the pattern.

Reached out to new match on Tinder to hang, and her response succinctly sums up this flaky/delusional celeb status epidemic (also relevant to the Tinder and Flaking threads). From the horse's mouth (keep in mind- this chick is depressingly only a 6 tops):

"Oh, normally I'd be down I've just got a kind of a long list of guys who have asked already at this particular moment. If nothing else works out though hit me up in a couple weeks and I'll probably have a different response I'm just apparently in high demand this week"

Post: #4845

^If this girl's a 6...that's sad as fuck. When lower quality girls are in high demand that's when you know its bad, haha.

Post: #4846

(10-13-2015 02:50 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  "Oh, normally I'd be down I've just got a kind of a long list of guys who have asked already at this particular moment. If nothing else works out though hit me up in a couple weeks and I'll probably have a different response I'm just apparently in high demand this week"

What a disgusting message. Never contact her again. She tried to one up you by attempting to show how she is a high valued girl. That is something that narcissists do all the time. Those people are toxic and should never be fed the constant attention that thirsty men provide her.

Her day of reckoning will come once she hits the wall and will be begging for men to take her out.

Post: #4847

(10-13-2015 08:49 AM)Remington Wrote:  I only send messages to girls who "like" my profile. Their response rate and number conversion are both pretty high. If I can get them out, I get the bang within at most two dates. If I don't, then I drop them.

Sadly, most of the women who "like" my profile are hogs. And I get ton of "likes" from women who are out of state or even out of the country - what the fuck is up with that?

Maybe 1 in 5 girls who "like" me are worth messaging, and for me at least the response rate after they check out my profile is fairly low. There may be something particular in there that's turning them off, but I'm not sure exactly what.

Post: #4848

Quote:"Oh, normally I'd be down I've just got a kind of a long list of guys who have asked already at this particular moment. If nothing else works out though hit me up in a couple weeks and I'll probably have a different response I'm just apparently in high demand this week"

Next. A couple weeks from now might as well be the end of time when it comes to online dating.

The same thing happened to me today, but more politely phrased - the "7" I sent the restart text was enthusiastic about meeting up again yesterday, but today when I tried to push forward sent me a text:

"Well, I don't think I can do it this week. It'll have to be next week. Late next week, probably."

She won't even remember my name next week. It's certainly irritating when someone says yes and no at the same time.

Post: #4849

(10-13-2015 02:50 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  "Oh, normally I'd be down I've just got a kind of a long list of guys who have asked already at this particular moment. If nothing else works out though hit me up in a couple weeks and I'll probably have a different response I'm just apparently in high demand this week"

Like the others have said delete her number and don't look back. Earlier this year I was on an OKC blitz and started messaging with an Asian girl (exactly my type and at least an 8+ on the OTSC meter ) and the first time I asked her out she said she couldn't because she was "sick" but to "check in with me next week". I put her on the back burner and pinged her the following week only to get a "sorry I'm all booked up this week". Normally I'm pretty unfazed by the stupid shit these online women do and say but for some reason that one damn near made me put my fist through the screen. Yeah, according to her pics she was a smoke show in my eyes but her sense of entitlement almost made me have an aneurysm

Deleting her number never felt so good!

Post: #4850

(10-13-2015 05:28 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(10-13-2015 02:50 PM)Player_1337 Wrote:  "Oh, normally I'd be down I've just got a kind of a long list of guys who have asked already at this particular moment. If nothing else works out though hit me up in a couple weeks and I'll probably have a different response I'm just apparently in high demand this week"

Like the others have said delete her number and don't look back. Earlier this year I was on an OKC blitz and started messaging with an Asian girl (exactly my type and at least an 8+ on the OTSC meter ) and the first time I asked her out she said she couldn't because she was "sick" but to "check in with me next week". I put her on the back burner and pinged her the following week only to get a "sorry I'm all booked up this week". Normally I'm pretty unfazed by the stupid shit these online women do and say but for some reason that one damn near made me put my fist through the screen. Yeah, according to her pics she was a smoke show in my eyes but her sense of entitlement almost made me have an aneurysm

Deleting her number never felt so good!

You've got to be aware that there are two types of chicks online:

1) Those that will meet you
2) Those that will never meet you

The ones in camp 1 will hand out their number without any reservation, and be totally pliable when it comes to arranging a date no matter how soon into the interaction it is. The ones in camp 2 you have been messaging will almost never give you a definite "no" when it comes to meeting, they will instead string you along with all sorts of insanity.

Any time I receive any kind of resistance like "let's chat on here for a while first" or "hit me up next week" or "I'm going to Spain" the number is deleted IMMEDIATELY without exception regardless of her looks. These women are seeking validation from an internet boyfriend. Don't feed the beast.

I don't chase and I don't ping a few days later.

One recent example was this 27 year old blonde POF chick who was hitting me up with provocative photos. After having left it a while to reply to a text she reeled me back in with "we'll have to meet up sometime". So, after a few text exchanges building rapport I suggested meeting.

Her response was "I'm really busy, but text me again in about two weeks". Gents, that type of behaviour is unforgivable. Number deleted immediately.