(10-12-2015 09:10 PM)RawGod Wrote:  I tend to agree about the women being the deciding factor, IKE. It's been said as a joke a few times that men wouldn't be complaining about the migrants if they were 90% Ukrainian or Japanese women of childbearing age.

Well, it's very, very true-- although also funny. Eurowomen would be hysterical with anger, but i would certainly not complain.

Of course, women are too passive to mount such an invasion. This is irresistibly reminiscent of a lake being stocked with an invasive species of fish that crowds out others, that is good at reproducing-- but not much else.

Essentially the MENA's and SubSaharan Africans are coming and saying: "Give me food, pussies. Come here, bitch."

(10-12-2015 09:10 PM)RawGod Wrote:  None of this would be happening if Europe had maintained an above-replacement birth rate....

In retrospect, the West was lost decades ago when capitalists and government persuaded women that working for a corporate master and paying taxes was better than having a family.

"The goal of capitalism is to reduce all human interaction to the cash nexus". And if that means apocalyptic post-immigration cities for the masses to keep the money flowing upwards, well then tough luck, masses.

This is why it is foolish to fall for the divide-and-conquer of using abstract, essentially meaningless terms like left, right, liberal, conservative. All used by the .01% to keep the masses roiling quarreling and easily manipulated like crabs in a bucket.

If there had been a focus on specific issues where clear metrics can be used-- like birth rates (a number) and immigration policy (can also be measured as bodies arriving) , which transcend "left/right" jingoism, this wouldn't be happening.

(10-12-2015 09:10 PM)RawGod Wrote:  ... However, I have checked out. I cannot devote my life to "the struggle" and live in a constant place of anger and activism. I do feel guilty about this to a degree.... controlling a small personal sphere is about all I can handle.

"Against stupidity the gods themselves struggle in vain." Schiller.
( Although I agree someone has to do it at some point, or I'd be against education. )

I think you have every right to abandon a place if you don't like it any more. You only have one life.

It reminds me of the story of the Persian king who was tired of people thinking he was a god, so he went to the shore and commanded the tide to stop coming in to show he wasn't.

These processes are part of deep, huge, interplay between yin and yang and no single person can remedy them unless they are a positive or negative genius such as Martin Luther King (A catalyst for why blacks and whites in America don't really hate each other like Sunnis and Shias do) or Hitler.

(Also, I want to add "Fuck Goodwin's Law" for good measure. Hitler is a good example of a single person being a catalyst for evil, how mild mannered masses can follow an asshole, and his example should be continue to be used to remind people how things can go stupendously wrong.)

(10-12-2015 03:21 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  Wrong link on the Rotherham Pensioner beat into a coma.

Anyway, when they say "women vote for mass immigration" what is meant by women? Married or single? Because in America married women vote for what their husband does generally.

I'd guess single.

You are correct about the voting patterns of married women. In the era of the suffragettes, the old unionised left opposed votes for women believing that they will just follow their husband's or priest's direction. It was deemed to be a reactionary ploy to ensure that a revolution never happened.

(10-12-2015 05:10 PM)void Wrote:  I don't know if this is real or a hoax invented by the left media puppeteers, but it sufficed for a chuckle. Are politicians fazed by people building gallows?
The only real resistance will come from former Eastern Germany, they made the Berlin wall crumble and remember their communist oppressive overlords damn well.

The German government plans to extract 'solidarity' tribute from the low fertility population to pay for the occupation.

Those children who do experience life and go to school are to be sent to asylum centres to work.

Quote:German Schoolchildren will Cook and Clean for “Refugees” as Part of Work Experience

Schoolchildren from an undisclosed school in the city of Lübeck, Schleswig-Holstein, will spend a week doing housework for so-called “refugees”.
Unknown Object.

The idea was sold to parents at a parents’ meeting as a “practical internship“, but has sparked outrage online.

A letter to the parents said their children will be going to “refugee” accommodations and will be making beds, sorting clothes, and “help in the kitchen” among other things.

http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=34517

Merkel said there will be no tax for the refugees. Well lets see. About the school children, I did not find a German source for that. Sometimes its tricky because Neonazis mix in fake stories to scare the people. I think this is a bad tactic because the lies are spot easy and then the real negative things of refugees can be pushed away more easy.

Now they worry about the winter because many of the wannabe refugees sit in tents that are not fit for winter. I don't think there will be a solution in time. The image of Germany is kind of crashing. VW manipulate cars, and now the government is not able to came up with a solution with the refugees. Only sweet words. I think more and more will storm in, it will be a status quo and at one point local communities collapse.

(10-13-2015 12:05 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

Quote:German Schoolchildren will Cook and Clean for “Refugees” as Part of Work Experience

Schoolchildren from an undisclosed school in the city of Lübeck, Schleswig-Holstein, will spend a week doing housework for so-called “refugees”.
Unknown Object.

The idea was sold to parents at a parents’ meeting as a “practical internship“, but has sparked outrage online.

A letter to the parents said their children will be going to “refugee” accommodations and will be making beds, sorting clothes, and “help in the kitchen” among other things.

http://redicecreations.com/article.php?id=34517

Frankly their plans sometimes never cease to amaze me!

Don't they know what is happening around those men? Sending children to them to make their beds and clean their stalls? Why not send them in naked for rape as well - boys or girls are equally good from what we know.

Quote:“Early on, our children should learn how they have to serve refugees???” said one commenter “Working for refugees is not a lesson.”

Another outraged commenter said that his son who attends the school, came home with a note saying the children should bring “welcome gifts and food.”

I think many of them will remember the good old Ottoman ways.

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Don't they know what is happening to children all across the Muslim world? Heck - the imported world is sufficient as Minneapolis is now a hotbed for backwards activity now:

https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/201...des-facts/
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/201...icits-sex/

If Trump doesn't win then at least 200.000 will be shipped from Syria alone, since they cannot come by themselves.

The school children story is massive - they are sending the children as slaves to those invaders - and they even ask their parents of buying them food and shit.

I wonder how long it will take before someone's kid gets raped and the father decides he has nothing more to lose?
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Also @El Mech - there are are literally no concise plans of closing the Southern European borders. There are some plans to bribe Turkey to take in more "refugees", but that will work only on the real refugees. The overwhelming majority are welfare tourists, so of course it will have zero effect on them.
Merkel said that "they will manage".

Quote:Merkel said there will be no tax for the refugees. Well lets see.

There will be no direct tax. They will just issue debt that functions in the same way as a postponed tax. Guess who will pay it?

So, no, no tax. Just like massive money printing by FED and ECB is not an inflation tax on current savers. Just like sustaining principally unsustainable welfare and pension system through debt is not a debt tax on future generations.

Rage mode=ON
This shit is riddiculous.
CZ has a growing debt, we have no money for pensions, no money for crippled (read physically and mentally challenged) children, teachers are striking because of low wages, public health system is in ******, all major hospitals have debts which they can't pay. Our soliders are using soviet era weapons and machinery, roads are full of holes, no money for repairs and yet we are going to pay welfare to culturally enriching migrants.
And the worst thing is people don't give a flying fuck. They are preoccupied with themselves, numb and careless.
If this goes more south, i am ready to pack it and leave, i will not pay taxes for this shit.
Some may say I am pussy, but this is not worth fighting. Fighting battle that is already lost from the beginning has no sense.

I think its the same phenomenon like with women. Most men will either accept and deal with the new reality or they slip away in silence. I know some people that do regular demonstration and stuff like that. But me? Well yes I'm writing sometimes in the internet - not a real action. More I seek to find a possibility to stay in Japan or at least come back there in the future.
I have only this life and it gives me a little more joy to look for an adventure and build something new up in a different country then see Europe go down. When I only suffer there, like when you realise you worked 40 years in a factory just to lose your job at the end because you are not productive any more.

There are no battles to fight, young european men are redunant, they are only good for pay taxes. Go out in Japan is a way more fun then to look out of my window in Germany and see the migrants everywhere in the street. Now my hometown become like Berlin, what a nightmare.

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/a...tiver.html

Quote:Demnach sprachen sich 39 Prozent der 12- bis 25-Jährigen dafür aus, dass künftig genauso viele Menschen aus dem Ausland zuwandern dürfen wie bisher.

15 Prozent der Befragten befürworteten sogar mehr Zuwanderung. Für die Erhebung werden seit 1953 alle drei bis fünf Jahre rund 2500 Jugendliche zu ihren Einstellungen befragt. Zum Vergleich: 2006 sprachen sich noch 58 Prozent dafür aus, Zuwanderung zu verringern. Aktuell ist dieser Anteil auf 37 Prozent gesunken.

Bei der Haltung gegenüber Zuwanderern zeigt die Studie nach wie vor Unterschiede zwischen Ost und West. Während im Gebiet der alten Bundesrepublik 35 Prozent der jungen Menschen für eine Begrenzung von Zuwanderung sind, sind es im Osten inklusive Berlin fast die Hälfte (49 Prozent).

2010 wünschten sich noch 69 Prozent der jungen Menschen Kinder, aktuell sind es noch 64 Prozent.

Some Shell research. 39 % of 12 - 25 year old want to keep the level of immigration. 15 % even want more immigration.
Also only 37 % want to reduce it, 58 % in 2006 wanted to reduce it. A big drop.

Then there is a difference between east and west germany. 49 % in East germany want to reduce immigration and only 35 % in the west.
Furthermore now only 64 % want kids, they see problems to keep a career and family.

Its like a political doctrine that you have to support immigration. It also shows in the protest in Dresden, where the protesters older men with higher education and the counter protests are held by the younger generation.

I'm not sure this was posted earlier: http://qz.com/519005/the-eu-is-deploying...ng-europe/

Supposedly now the navy is intercepting and stopping the smuggler routes, but I'm sure there's a cuck-catch.

Now that it is clear our own politicians who are behind all of this, they are the root of the problem and they are the ones who should be targeted.

Ideally they should be torn to pieces in the street, beheaded and their heads put on sticks. This is how treacherous politicians have always been dealt with by the people. They need to be shown that is the punishment for acting against the countries interest.

Their supporters are then enemy number 2. They are mainly pussies so it would not take much violence to intimidate them out of action.

Then the migrants themselves, their locations are well known, guarded by police perhaps, but not all of those places are, especially in Italy or Greece.
It would be so easy to give them 'supplies' that turn out to be bombs or poison.

Yes, harmless people will be killed, but I don't care how morally questionable these tactics are anymore, there is no peaceful solution to this anymore. They have left us no option but violence.

If you read all this and think voting and protesting is enough, you're an idiot. You might think you're just one person and you don't want to go to jail, but groups are forming. If we have a million protesters, you don't think we can put together a militia?

Violent revolution is coming.

(10-13-2015 08:25 AM)Libertas Wrote:  I'm not sure this was posted earlier: http://qz.com/519005/the-eu-is-deploying...ng-europe/

Supposedly now the navy is intercepting and stopping the smuggler routes, but I'm sure there's a cuck-catch.

The headline doesn't fit what is happening there:

Quote:The EU is deploying warships to stop migrants and refugees dying—or reaching Europe

Quote:It will start with six ships, its commander told the BBC.
Hitherto, efforts have been focused on border patrol and rescue.



Initially, responsibility for patrolling many of the most popular migration routes fell to the Italians, whose country juts out into the sea and is the preferred destination for many of those who set out from Libya. Then, 12 months ago, Operation Mare Nostrum (“our sea”) was replaced by Operation Triton, run by the EU’s border force, Frontex.
But as the flow of people making the dangerous voyage increased, budgets were cut. Italy’s Mare Nostrum cost €9 million ($10.1 million) a month, activists said; the EU-run Triton operation was given a third as much.

[Keep that in mind - they took an Italian operation that was ineffective, cut the funding by 2/3 and replaced it with an EU operation that is even less effective! Now in addition we have to ask what those 6 fucking ships do?]


Charities and NGOs have stepped in—Save The Children’s staff are travelling on Italian navy ships, and Médecins Sans Frontières launched its own vessels to rescue and treat people at risk on the seas.
The hope is that the EU’s new plan, dubbed Operation Sophia, will be the best way to prevent further loss of life as well as stem the influx of migrants currently straining Europe’s resources. It’s named after a baby born in August on board a German ship, after her mother was rescued off the coast of Libya.

So fucking SJWs are TRAVELLING ON ITALIAN NAVY SHIPS!!! They dubbed the Operation SOPHIA named after an immigrant baby that was brought aboard! Do I have to say more?

This is the reverse of stopping the boats. This is what is going to happen: They will make a few token efforts at a budget that is decreased, then they will save all people they can find as SJWs are on board!

To stop this there would have to be done those things:

1. Inform everyone that the EU is not taking in anyone. All future refugees have to go to the German, Swedish (or whatever) embassy and have to apply for asylum. If their application is deserving, then it might be granted.

2. Send out hundreds of navy ships of all nationalities with an increased budget and simply fire warning shots at any boat that comes near EU waters. Tow back every boat you find, give them some medical aid when necessary. When fired upon, then sink the entire boat.

That is how this could be stopped quickly.

The operation CUCK described ABOVE won't stop anything and it will actually make it worse.

Also the picture and the text below it is amazing:

Quote:Disaster averted.

Disaster averted by having saved them from their boat and them being shipped to the EU in a more safe way? I would say that the disaster has just happened.

http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article147...linge.html

Quote:Bundesfinanzminister Wolfgang Schäuble (CDU) will den Hartz-IV-Satz für Flüchtlinge senken. "Können wir nicht wenigstens die Kosten für die Eingliederungsleistungen abziehen?", fragte Schäuble am Dienstag in Berlin. "Wir werden darüber noch diskutieren müssen."

Seine Bedenken: Sonst erhalte ein Flüchtling, der weder die Sprache spreche und zum Teil sogar noch Lesen und Schreiben lernen müsse, ebenso viel wie jemand, der 30 Jahre gearbeitet habe und nun arbeitslos sei.

Schäuble rechnet dazu aber mit wenig Gesprächsbereitschaft bei SPD, Grünen und Linkspartei.

Finance Minister want to give Refugees a lower welfare money then Germans. But he said with the socialist, the greens and the lefts it will be hard to pass this.
It can not be that someone that someone that speak not even german, has to learn read and write get the same money like a German that worked for 30 years.

The issue with the government is, its a big coalition. And even when they pass a law it has to be counter pass by an other organisation - where the greens are sitting. The greens even block for no reason to make more countries safe countries that people can not get the status as refugees. Its an ideological block because even the Presidents of south-eastern European countries say, the people that come from there just come for the money.

http://www.gmx.net/magazine/politik/flue...t-30992750

Quote:Jeder dritte Deutsche ist nach einer neuen Umfrage mit der Flüchtlingspolitik von Kanzlerin Angela Merkel (CDU) so unzufrieden, dass er sich ihren Rücktritt wünscht.

Every 3th German want that Merkel quits because they are unhappy with the refugee politics of her.

(10-13-2015 08:38 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Now that it is clear our own politicians who are behind all of this, they are the root of the problem and they are the ones who should be targeted.

Ideally they should be torn to pieces in the street, beheaded and their heads put on sticks. This is how treacherous politicians have always been dealt with by the people. They need to be shown that is the punishment for acting against the countries interest.

Their supporters are then enemy number 2. They are mainly pussies so it would not take much violence to intimidate them out of action.

Then the migrants themselves, their locations are well known, guarded by police perhaps, but not all of those places are, especially in Italy or Greece.
It would be so easy to give them 'supplies' that turn out to be bombs or poison.

Yes, harmless people will be killed, but I don't care how morally questionable these tactics are anymore, there is no peaceful solution to this anymore. They have left us no option but violence.

If you read all this and think voting and protesting is enough, you're an idiot. You might think you're just one person and you don't want to go to jail, but groups are forming. If we have a million protesters, you don't think we can put together a militia?

Violent revolution is coming.

The root of the problem is the current system in power - namely, liberal democracy - not the current elites. If we want to save European civilization from its own demise, then liberal democracy has to be abolished and replaced with another form of government such as a monarchy or dictatorship. If we just get rid of the elites, liberals, and migrants while the current system is intact, then in 30-50 years we would be in the same position as today.

Like the Unabomber said in his manifesto, in order to change society we would have to alter all of society. A small change such as removing the elites would be an example of a reform, and consequently it would not be enough to stop the decline in European civilization.

Anyhow, I do agree that the first step to counter the current fall of our civilization is to form a militia and start fighting.

The Greens are ruthless socialists and akin to the old Soviet Guard.

Only recently have I read that the former Soviet Union had plans to change the color of their flag from red to green. The reason according to former Soviet Union prime minister Gorbatschew was that the red of the bloody revolution was over and they discussed plans to usher in a green revolution that would make everyone submit to a global GAIA - green earth - entity. They planned to change the flag to something like that:



So of course all Greens are utterly down with SJWs, communism, anti-capitalism, feminism and every other crazy meme like Global Warming austerity or open borders. Any country with a large green party is utterly fucked - they are on the level of Bolsheviks.

(10-13-2015 11:00 AM)quino_16 Wrote:  The root of the problem is the current system in power - namely, liberal democracy - not the current elites. If we want to save European civilization from its own demise, then liberal democracy has to be abolished and replaced with another form of government such as a monarchy or dictatorship. If we just get rid of the elites, liberals, and migrants while the current system is intact, then in 30-50 years we would be in the same position as today.

You're almost there. The 'system' is the constitution, and the problem is democracy. The solution is reversion to the mixed king-nobles-electorate natural hierarchy. The British constitution before 1911 is probably the "best practice", or at least the best unitary-state constitution we have seen so far. No king or nobles would have ever agreed to the degeneration that has occurred in Europe and the west. Also note the constitutions of the gulf states and the migration they accepted.

If the EU ever wanted to stop migrants coming, a handful of boats blown up or shot through with those big guns on the front of the ships in full view of the waiting masses would deter them 100%.

The EU is boating them in and the smugglers can now use concrete evidence to get even more people across. "Look out there! The EU will save you!"

We're so totally fucked it isn't funny anymore. I doubt the guys who are going to observe from afar will avoid the disasters yet to come.

I talked to someone from Australia and did it at the departing boat chokepoint, and it apparently worked. -- in this case EU ships would go to the territorial limits of say, libya , tow the boat back and leave them with just enough fuel to get BACK to Libya.

If you let the people get off and then sink the boats that would kill motivation for smuggling pretty quickly. But EU does have to worry about their citizens working in these countries.

But the problem is mental not tactical. People BELIEVE that these strapping men are pathetic desperados.

Europeans, especially young ones, don't understand MENA/African culture is based on CLAN loyalty, not CIVIC loyalty, the Civic unit is a buffoon to be tooled.

Right now, two different HRs in LinkedIn are spamming me for open positions for software engineers. Both are using this picture:


The city in question is Berlin. Well, someone's gotta pay for the welfare of the pseudorefugees and future spouses of German fatties.

Won't be me though

(10-13-2015 11:05 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  The Greens are ruthless socialists and akin to the old Soviet Guard.

Many political parties shift to the left. Environment and many other former pure green topics are now common sense.
The mentality of the green is, to educate the people for a brighter world, a utopia they dream of. They want to control and regulate everything.
Regulation over regulation, SJW at the finest. Funny is that one state in Germany where they are in power, has to face a reality thats hard to accept for many of them.

Their idea to march trough the institutions did not fail. Greens sit everywhere, change the education and the laws. Only into the economy they did not get, because there you have to study mostly engineering or at least economics. Not just some bla bla nonsense subject. But when you make the laws and control the education you win in the long run.

(10-13-2015 12:27 PM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  The city in question is Berlin. Well, someone's gotta pay for the welfare of the pseudorefugees and future spouses of German fatties.

Berlin is a doomed city...

(10-13-2015 11:58 AM)iknowexactly Wrote:  I talked to someone from Australia and did it at the departing boat chokepoint, and it apparently worked. -- in this case EU ships would go to the territorial limits of say, libya , tow the boat back and leave them with just enough fuel to get BACK to Libya.

If you let the people get off and then sink the boats that would kill motivation for smuggling pretty quickly. But EU does have to worry about their citizens working in these countries.

But the problem is mental not tactical. People BELIEVE that these strapping men are pathetic desperados.

Europeans, especially young ones, don't understand MENA/African culture is based on CLAN loyalty, not CIVIC loyalty, the Civic unit is a buffoon to be tooled.

The smugglers and migrants scupper the ships and boats on purpose. Thre are no landing ports for the EU ships in Libya and they know it.

(10-13-2015 11:24 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(10-13-2015 11:00 AM)quino_16 Wrote:  The root of the problem is the current system in power - namely, liberal democracy - not the current elites. If we want to save European civilization from its own demise, then liberal democracy has to be abolished and replaced with another form of government such as a monarchy or dictatorship. If we just get rid of the elites, liberals, and migrants while the current system is intact, then in 30-50 years we would be in the same position as today.

You're almost there. The 'system' is the constitution, and the problem is democracy. The solution is reversion to the mixed king-nobles-electorate natural hierarchy. The British constitution before 1911 is probably the "best practice", or at least the best unitary-state constitution we have seen so far. No king or nobles would have ever agreed to the degeneration that has occurred in Europe and the west. Also note the constitutions of the gulf states and the migration they accepted.

I agree democracy is the problem behind all this, so the elites would have to be replaced with a new dictatorship.
I'm interested in other ideas though. I'm ignorant of how exactly the British constitution worked before 1911 with kings and nobles, and how constitutions work in the Gulf states. Could you explain this system to me?

(10-13-2015 04:19 PM)RedPillUK Wrote:  

(10-13-2015 11:24 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  

(10-13-2015 11:00 AM)quino_16 Wrote:  The root of the problem is the current system in power - namely, liberal democracy - not the current elites. If we want to save European civilization from its own demise, then liberal democracy has to be abolished and replaced with another form of government such as a monarchy or dictatorship. If we just get rid of the elites, liberals, and migrants while the current system is intact, then in 30-50 years we would be in the same position as today.

You're almost there. The 'system' is the constitution, and the problem is democracy. The solution is reversion to the mixed king-nobles-electorate natural hierarchy. The British constitution before 1911 is probably the "best practice", or at least the best unitary-state constitution we have seen so far. No king or nobles would have ever agreed to the degeneration that has occurred in Europe and the west. Also note the constitutions of the gulf states and the migration they accepted.

I agree democracy is the problem behind all this, so the elites would have to be replaced with a new dictatorship.
I'm interested in other ideas though. I'm ignorant of how exactly the British constitution worked before 1911 with kings and nobles, and how constitutions work in the Gulf states. Could you explain this system to me?

If memory serves me correctly, up to 1911, the House of Lords could block legislation from the House of Commons indefinitely. Nowadays it can block new legislation three times.

I see a lot of Euro's wanting to run, where exactly will you go? Unless you can secure a great job somewhere else, you're going to be broke in some other country very soon. Europe's economy will crash from being raped and plundered by the refugees (<10 years) and then you won't be able to sell stuff on the internet.

Honestly the best place for Europeans to run to is America. You can probably chill in some small American town and work a menial job at the bare minimum no matter what happens. Also we have guns.

^^ For all those who crave a totalitarian system or aristocracy - you are in luck. We already are in a plutocratic system ruled by a usury money system owning super-elite. The only difference is that they operate in the shadows and the democracy scam is upheld. If voting ever made a difference, then it would be forbidden.

It's off-topic, but here my post on the "ideal government & system" thread - it's off-line and can be found only in the archives.

Quote:Simple.

Total meritocracy coupled with a usury free social credit/mutual credit economic system set up with the goal of getting rid of money at all within one generation. Earth provides ample space and resources for all families to have a good chunk of land or a luxury apartment at a high-rise. In fact you could squeeze in the entire population of the earth by giving every family 400m2 land and a house (that point only shows you how big earth truly is - it's just distributed badly).

Social credit (nothing to do with socialism - just different form of money creation) or other usury free systems would make everyone a property owner. Meanwhile all the currently repressed technologies would make energy, transporation and thus production incredibly cheap or actually free.

https://realcurrencies.wordpress.com/201...demurrage/




Example of one repressed tech.

Here Nitinol for Free Energy creation - little docu piece by the BBC from the 1970s - patents in the end ranging back to the 1950s. And that one technology is not even the most efficient out there. All currently suppressed technologies could create a much higher living standard for mankind (most using geo-magnetic earth field).


I don't believe in democracy though, because it is a scam anyway - we have had plutocracy from the beginning and the cunning convincing of the majority of the population is really not that hard, since most people are herd animals who don't resist group think.

Aristocracy is flawed because of inheritance as a means of passing of power. One king might be a genius, but one of his sons or grandsons will be a lazy psychopath or moron for sure.

The best leadership would be a highly ethical meritocracy - the smartest and equally the most ethical ones in every country should rule by default. Something in the line of the smartest kids being selected to and trained early on to be potential leaders. You would not be able to inherit your position at all - everyone would have a chance of becoming one of the rulers. The selection process would have to be rigorous - not only would you have to be highly intelligent, ambitious and creative. You would also have to be kind and loving at the same time. Likely the person selected would have to be under constant monitoring since beginning of the training up until graduation. Only then could highly functioning intelligent psychopaths be eliminated. Currently they comprise the majority of our ruling elite.

The problem is actually not in the upkeep of the system, but in the inception phase. As soon as you have a selection system in place that works, it could perpetuate itself.

Apart from a global overlay system, regions themselves should be administrated by regionally selected meritocratic leaders, since humans are quite different culturally. Also in such a system families should be strengthened and used for disciplinary measures as well.

But all of this is completely illusory, since such a change would only be possible via money reform first, then technological liberation second - never mind the arduous task of setting up a real meritocracy which would dethrone the mega-wealthy of our times.

And regarding your question on human nature - most humans would behave quite well when given enough money, decent living standard and a chance to have a stable family. The most dangerous elements would be the highly intelligent power-hungry psychopaths - they will always try to topple even an ideal society, simply because they want to rule and dominate others. If a system is in place that watches out for them, then that society could survive for millennia in peace. Currently our society lauds those individuals and calls them great - business journals even openly say that most CEOs are psychopaths and that those qualities make them better managers.

Also - Samseau - leaving the EU for the US is off-the-charts optimistic. The global elite are not sharing your optimism at all. Many are surrendering the US citizenship and leaving for good. The EU is strangely enough more stable. You are all forgetting that the US will be getting an equal or higher amount of South Americans and a constant flux of African migrants as well. The real migrant inflow to the US is right now around 2.5-4 mio. / year - that is 70-150 mio. by 2050. It might even go faster than that.

It does not mean however that you won't be able to have a great life in NYC - if you have the 500k/year for that adequate lifestyle that is. The same will be valid in Paris and London.