(09-26-2015 07:36 AM)Silva Wrote:  

(09-22-2015 06:27 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Fucked up a date with a cute and cool Indian girl the other day. I landed in the no-mans-land of making out with her too much but not getting the bang so all I did was activate ASD and she's gone ghost on me.

The date went really well, she was cuter than in her pictures, seemed really into me so at the second bar I went for the kiss and got it without hesitation. Played it cool, kept the convo going and then wound the date up with an offer to drive her home as she lived near me and had come to the date from work. She accepted and when we got to my car I went for another makeout and I think this is where I screwed up. I just made out with her and didn't escalate any further to really get her wet and make her want to come home with me, so when on the way home I suggested we stop by my place for another drink before I dropped her home she declined saying she had to get up early in the morning. If I'd escalated harder and go her tingling she may have agreed to coming in to my place, instead I just activated her ASD.
When I dropped her off at her place we had another makeout session in the car but she pulled away when I tried to escalate.

Looking back over the few dates where I've made out with a chick and not go the bang, they have all ghosted me afterwards. This most recent example has just confirmed to me that you either don't go for the makeout until she's back at your place, or if you do, you need to escalate so far that she's begging you to bang her. Getting caught in the no mans land of a makeout with no bang just seems to activate ASD.
If I don't get the girl to come back to my place (i.e. isolate) at the end of the date it's either end the date with a light kiss/hug or go for broke and escalate hard to try and convince her.

Pretty much the exact same scenario happened with me the other night. Got back from the clubs, made out on the bed, but every time I attempted to escalate further she would physically move my hand away and wouldn't let me take off her top. I tried everything, but whipping my dick out LOL.

Why didn't ya whip it out?

It seems like the more I learn about females cock carousel ways, the less I want to have kids. I feel like I would rather be in some big brother program or some shit when I get older. I can still produce my own happiness with reading, working out, traveling, etc.

Lining up a potential threesome with a girl I banged earlier this year. I got her willing to bring her friend by.

Anyone here ever hear of someone getting an STD from oral sex ( getting a BJ) ?

With a new girl, I usually get the BJ, wrap up, then bang.

I read that STDs can be got through oral sex though, which is a bit of a buzz kill. The article said "but STD risk can be lowered by using a condom during oral sex" I'm like WTF? I never even heard of that. I mean, it's barely worth banging a girl with a condom but oral sex with a condom ? No way.

Just banged an 18 year old at this all inclusive so that's 3 girls in 5 days for my trip. Before this week I was in non girl mode but now I let the monster loose. I've seen this girl for the last couple of days and she's been staring hard. So this morning while I was taking my shirt off I caught her drooling like the dog in Pavlov's experiment.

Approach
Some chit chat/flirting in all Spanish
Played some pool frisby which led to lots of touching
Her friends left her alone
Invited her straight back to my room for booze
laid the pipe down



I think it's my surrounding area that has me so down on poosy. I just don't have any urge to approach first now. It feels real good to be back in the game.

So fucking pissed. Got LMR with this girl on her bed and couldn't break through it. God fucking dammit. Second time this has happened in three weeks. I can sense that my luck is about to change, so I know I'm about to get over the hump.

Banged all 4 of my plates this week and I think I need to refresh the harem.

One is fairly new, I've only banged her a couple of times, but I can see the sex getting boring with her pretty quick. The others have been on my roster for 4+ months and it's all getting a bit stale.
Spending time with them is limiting the time I have available to approach and date other girls. I've lost a few potential leads recently because I couldn't find a time that worked.

It does make me not lower my standards though. I was at a friends party the other night and this chick this was warm to me but she was a 6 (would have been 5 in the morning once the makeup, dress and hair weren't looking so flash) and I just couldn't be bothered. 12 months ago I would have banged that.

Almost managed to pull a Asian chick (again) from nightgame last night but got cockblocked twice - first by the club bouncer who somehow managed to intuit that she had used her friend's ID (she was 18, drinking age here in BC is 19), thence by her friends wanting her to go home with them. I tried to pull a Hail Mary before the second one by taking her hand and walking away with her while her friends were arguing with the bouncer, and walking towards my apartment (one block/two left turns away.) I managed to make it halfway before they caught up with us. Got her # in any case.

On a more positive note, last night was my first going out having invested in headgear (a RVCA snapback cap.) Responses, though initial, were significantly better than what I generally am used to when running nightgame. We'll see how that goes.

Lift. Do T if you have to (I don't, I'm blessed genetically).

It's way easier. You'll get solicited by girls who want to fuck. Chics dig the guy who looks like a bodybuilder.

+1 from a friend of a friend of a friend who wanted to bang me from meeting me. Former tv reporter type. I just had the greatest 4 hours of my life.

(09-26-2015 02:53 PM)robreke Wrote:  Lining up a potential threesome with a girl I banged earlier this year. I got her willing to bring her friend by.

Anyone here ever hear of someone getting an STD from oral sex ( getting a BJ) ?

With a new girl, I usually get the BJ, wrap up, then bang.

I read that STDs can be got through oral sex though, which is a bit of a buzz kill. The article said "but STD risk can be lowered by using a condom during oral sex" I'm like WTF? I never even heard of that. I mean, it's barely worth banging a girl with a condom but oral sex with a condom? No way.

The only thing to really worry about from oral sex is getting herpes from a chick that has oral herpes.

It is extremely rare to pass it that way though. Otherwise genital herpes would be a lot more common. It can happen though.

Getting some work done this morning in a local coffee shop.

This cute blonde ( fake it looks ) , but with nice blue eyes, smooth skin and a tight little body is on the back porch , interviewing or some such with an older guy , business dressed , on his laptop. She's in jeans and a semi dress shirt.

They're on the back porch and I'm sitting inside looking out to the porch. Their table's next to the glass, she's facing me.

I notice she keeps making eye contact. At first, my mind is so in my work I glance away. I catch her looking on and off.

A few minutes later after ignoring her, I look up and she's staring at me. She looks away a little embarrassed looking.

She looks back. I hold eye contact and smirk. She looks away. She looks back. I hold eye contact and smirk. She holds eye contact for a good 5 seconds with a relaxed face, breaks into a grin, blushes then laughs and covers her face and looks away.

I see her explaining to the guy through the glass something like "oh sorry, it's nothing sorry about that blah blah"

If he leaves her alone, she's getting approached.

5 minutes later they leave, as they walk through the indoor area to the front door, she sheepishly looks my way and the guy looks right over at me as if he knew something was distracting her. I casually look at both of them.

They leave together and I don't approach.

Second time in about a week, I've gotten strong eye approach invites and didn't approach. Last weekend was a tailgating event.

Dang, this girl today just wasn't approachable per se. Well, at least I'm getting the occasional IOIS from cute girls.

^ That's an almost impossible situation. Of course hindsight is always 20/20 but really the only thing you could have done was scratch out a note saying something funny about the situation and giving her your number. I know passing notes is grade school, but in that situation a long shot is better than no shot at all.

(09-28-2015 11:28 AM)robreke Wrote:  Dang, this girl today just wasn't approachable per se. Well, at least I'm getting the occasional IOIS from cute girls.

Why isn't she approachable?

"Hey! It's been a long time since I've seen you, what has it been, 10 years?"

Then immediately look at the guy, address him:

"Oh, hey, I'm <robreke> what's your name?"

Shake his hand, then tell him:

"Are you guys going somewhere, do you mind if her and I talk for a minute? I just want to catch up, haven't seen her since grade school, you don't mind right?"

(or whatever other bullshit excuse you have)

Then motion to her:

"Hey come her, sit with me a second I've gotta show you something"

Dude walks off or stands there and waits while you bring her to your table, do a quick flirt/number exchange and tell her you don't want to get her in trouble with her boss and then game her more afterwards. Walk her back to the dude and thank him for understanding and you can even throw in a "wow, it's a small world after all" nonsense bs statement to make him feel better as he may be into her so you don't blow your cover story.

Just gotta think on your feet. People make up stories about how they met all the time, especially before online dating sites became more societally acceptable.

Game on.

Since I have took the red pill this summer I have noticed my work ethic slowly diminish. I have been in the mind state of "I don't want an american slut for a wife so fuck it" a. However, beta ways crept on me yesterday and I decided to ask a classmate of mine out on a date with the standard Roosh text guide. I knew at the back of my mind that I would be more than likely rejected because I don't keep frame around her and she has somewhat led me the past two years of getting my shit together in school (grade wise) like a older sister. However, we now have different classes for the most part, and she is a girls I cared for and found attractive. When I asked her out, she didn't even respond to my text. Logically this is what is expected but I am still pissed. I called this girl every month or so to check on her and is probably one of two girls I truly care about and look out for outside my family. This new found anger over this broad has sparked a new focus for school and work that I didn't have in the beginning of the semester. I feel like the best way for me to live from this point is let the irrational ways of female motivate me to work harder in school/work, and bang broads using game.

(10-03-2015 08:12 AM)Phil Jackson Wrote:  Since I have took the red pill this summer I have noticed my work ethic slowly diminish. I have been in the mind state of "I don't want an american slut for a wife so fuck it" a. However, beta ways crept on me yesterday and I decided to ask a classmate of mine out on a date with the standard Roosh text guide. I knew at the back of my mind that I would be more than likely rejected because I don't keep frame around her and she has somewhat led me the past two years of getting my shit together in school (grade wise) like a older sister. However, we now have different classes for the most part, and she is a girls I cared for and found attractive. When I asked her out, she didn't even respond to my text. Logically this is what is expected but I am still pissed. I called this girl every month or so to check on her and is probably one of two girls I truly care about and look out for outside my family. This new found anger over this broad has sparked a new focus for school and work that I didn't have in the beginning of the semester. I feel like the best way for me to live from this point is let the irrational ways of female motivate me to work harder in school/work, and bang broads using game.

Buddy don't stress.

You've learned here that you can never make it out the friend zone, so don't even bother trying again.

Having a moral crisis... a friend (and former coworker) is really trying to get the dick. Good looking girl, nice body (especially for having had kids), and... married. She's basically begging me to bang her, and I'm trying to hold back because apparently I like to think I still have some moral code (I really don't at this point). I'm being dumb, right?

Oh, she's also on my pants-less on my couch right now...

^^^banging as we speak

^ CJ if she has already cheated before then she's already checked out.

If she was using you as a crying shoulder could be different.

(10-03-2015 09:43 PM)CJ Wrote:  Having a moral crisis... a friend (and former coworker) is really trying to get the dick. Good looking girl, nice body (especially for having had kids), and... married. She's basically begging me to bang her, and I'm trying to hold back because apparently I like to think I still have some moral code (I really don't at this point). I'm being dumb, right?

(10-03-2015 09:45 PM)CJ Wrote:  Oh, she's also on my pants-less on my couch right now...

Do you know the husband? Is he a friend of yours? No? Then go for it.

Although I've been bitching about my cut flatlining in the fitness threads, I have been continually getting more looks from girls.

I challenge everyone to get leaner and disagree with these results.

(10-04-2015 08:28 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Although I've been bitching about my cut flatlining in the fitness threads, I have been continually getting more looks from girls.

I challenge everyone to get leaner and disagree with these results.

From what I've noticed in terms of guys I've winged with. It's all about balancing the lean versus size ratio.

If you're too big you'll be niche and not get general attraction as girls will be too scared to say something due to fear from peer pressure or general insecurity ("ew he looks like a freak"), but if you're too skinny like myself you're also relegated to niches at times("ew he looks like a hipster").

Granted if you're big you'll bang those really in shape yoga girls or cross fit girls easier, and if you're in my range hipster girls are a piece of cake.

^^^ Consequently for me, the leaner I get, the less I'm attracted to medium-to-larger boned women. Not saying fat, just mid-larger framed girls. I was fucking one 5'5", thick but solid legs, a bit too flat of an ass for my tastes, and only B-Cish titts. Real cute face. She doesn't have the tightest box either, but proportionate to her build. I just sorta let that one drift away. It was almost like each consecutive time we had sex, I compared my body getting leaner, to her's stay the same (average), and my animal attraction to her simply wore off.

I've been catchin women checkin me out maybe 5-10% more since dropping 20 lbs and keeping it off. I'd swear it's not the reduced gut protrusion or body per se, but the more distinct facial features I've got. And I mean that from afar, not necessarily up close. I've got to watch it though, another 10 lbs lower and I'll be looking on the skinny side of buff.

(10-05-2015 01:46 AM)Ingocnito Wrote:  ^^^ Consequently for me, the leaner I get, the less I'm attracted to medium-to-larger boned women. Not saying fat, just mid-larger framed girls. I was fucking one 5'5", thick but solid legs, a bit too flat of an ass for my tastes, and only B-Cish titts. Real cute face. She doesn't have the tightest box either, but proportionate to her build. I just sorta let that one drift away. It was almost like each consecutive time we had sex, I compared my body getting leaner, to her's stay the same (average), and my animal attraction to her simply wore off.

I've been catchin women checkin me out maybe 5-10% more since dropping 20 lbs and keeping it off. I'd swear it's not the reduced gut protrusion or body per se, but the more distinct facial features I've got. And I mean that from afar, not necessarily up close. I've got to watch it though, another 10 lbs lower and I'll be looking on the skinny side of buff.

As far as the thick chick it's possible you were bored, and weight loss accelerated that.

Facial features are 100% of the reason for lean success. GLL recently posted about this:

http://www.goodlookingloser.com/entry/lo...0-pictures

^^ he includes many examples of guys losing weight and instantly looking more attractive.

I can vouch for it. My physique improvements are disproportionate to how much more attention I've been getting. It's definitely the facial gainz.

Kind of a weird problem. Last week, some guy tried to ask for a lighter as I was being dropped in front of my airbnb apt. I told the cab driver to wait till I entered the gate...but he sped off. Said no to the cigarette dude..as I tried opening my gate..he turns around again..and comes at me with a knife. Luckily, I opened the gate, entered, and closed the door immediately as the thief ran off.

I'm very lucky to be ok...with regards to this "player's lounge" question, that incident has me a bit traumatized when it comes to daygame approaches...as if I have seriously have no motivation to daygame or talk to strangers on the street whatsover.

Will my lack of daygame motivation pass? Has this happened to anyone else? Any advice?

I'd be a lot more worried about living in that neighborhood than how my day game would be affected.