(09-19-2015 05:28 AM)Rawmeo Wrote:  

(09-18-2015 08:45 PM)redbeard Wrote:  Does anyone have a player phone? Burner phone just for chicks?

I use a burner Android phone with the xPrivacy framework. This phone has a separate Line account, Skype, and the browser is used solely for online dating or viewing shit that the girls send me. It also has a separate SIM card and separate phone number.

This phone is locked using a passcode. The Blacklist application is used for 2 purposes:
1) Keeping a contact list for my girls
2) Controlling which girl can call me during what period (can be programmed)

I also use xPrivacy framework to spoof the GPS location / IMEI / serial (it doesn't change your IMEI, it just changes the data sent to applications, so it is perfectly legal). All pictures used on my fake Line / Skype / etc. are horizontal-symetried and tinted with Photoshop to prevent Google reverse image search from finding my real-life social profiles.

This seems like overkill.

All I want is a phone to text and call girls from. Prepaid with cash. When I'm working and don't want to be bothered, I can turn if off and life will go on.

If she's a stalker (which seems to be your concern) I'll throw it out Saul Goodman style. Done.

In the market for one of these bad boys:

(09-18-2015 08:45 PM)redbeard Wrote:  I'll use the search function once I'm back home on a computer but....



Does anyone have a player phone? Burner phone just for chicks?

I want to dust off the old Nokia.

I've use the TextNow app with great success. It assigns you a random number. You can give that out to the ladies for texting. Also comes with limited voice minutes so you can call/receive calls if needed.

(09-20-2015 08:01 PM)robreke Wrote:  I think I may be trigger shy due to the fact the last 4 or 5 times I've asked for a girl's number in the past few weeks, before I stopped asking for numbers, the girls have refused to give me their numbers.

u got rejected 5 times in a row and that's it? dude, that's barely nothing, I would get discouraged after 30 attempts. U just have to keep trying, anyone can have a bad stretch

Having an "overkill" phone is better than getting woke up at 3:00 a.m. by an hysteric chick with the proofs in hand.

Had a date setup with a recently turned 18 year old, she wanted to reschedule, I called her, texted her to call me back, a few hours later she said she'd give me a call, never happened.

Gonna let this freeze for a bit.

Fortunately as luck would have it an old coworker I banged a few times wanted to stop my work and say hi to me and another coworker. She's been traveling the world and got back. She didn't end up coming in time but texted me, we ended up hanging out at 2 bars.

I baited her with coming over, we walked around, she knows I "had" and LTR going but I played it off as I'm doing my own thing.

She knows I'm a player, she knows I've slept around, yet she's still hanging with me.

At the last minute she bails on going back to my pad, of course she's leaving next week to travel again. I'm gonna try banging her, but I doubt it'll happen.

I had the cute black 7.5 girl I went on a date with last week drunk texting me, I played it cool. She's clearly interested in me.

I've also got this 7 colombian/black girl who's keen on meeting me, she even drunk dialed me, and texts me late night.

This girl I went on a few dates with and made out snapchatted me a pic with her and a friend saying "Kaotics #1 fans".

I realized the other girl was a 7 I banged out, before she got a BF. I sent a snap asking who it was, this girl recorded the 7 saying "remember that we fucked 6 or 7 times ?" -all drunk of course with a bit of anger (I didn't commit to her or ever come to her house.).

I replied with a smile saying "I don't know who you are or what you're talking about."

Small world indeed, played that cool, it's funny because that 7 was talking shit on the girl who originally sent me the Snap.

It's hilarious she claims her and the 7 are good friends. Hopefully I'll meet up with her later this week.

I also had a 6.5 tell me that "I'm done having sex with random people, I just want to let you know up front"

Read: I want to fuck you but I don't want to look like a slut, so I'll need some "commitment" from you. That's easy on my part.

(09-21-2015 12:38 AM)pipeliner85 Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 08:01 PM)robreke Wrote:  I think I may be trigger shy due to the fact the last 4 or 5 times I've asked for a girl's number in the past few weeks, before I stopped asking for numbers, the girls have refused to give me their numbers.

u got rejected 5 times in a row and that's it? dude, that's barely nothing, I would get discouraged after 30 attempts. U just have to keep trying, anyone can have a bad stretch

Maybe it's the not the attempts, maybe it's your way of approaching a girl, making her comfortable enough to give you her number.

It might be time to evaluate that instead of the amount of approaches and requests for a number.

Anybody know anything about the characteristics of social workers and how to game them? I have a date with one who is an executive in some nonprofit . They've always struck as busybody, know-it-all do-gooders but I've never had a date with one.

Should I act "troubled" in dark bad boy kind of way so she will try to fix me? Are they pious and uptight so I shouldn't bother? Kind of clueless here.

Seem to be running through a 4 course meal of old plates lately. Not a new lay to account for in the past 6 weeks, partially due to fact I simply haven't had time to open new girls and develop meet up times, ONSs, etc.

I doing so, it's further reinforcing the importance of never straying far from the tenants of Game, and frame maintenance through and through, cradle to grave. I always ONLY pay attention to actions, and fuck their emotionally charged words which never did, and never will mean shit.

What seems to have brought them all back, besides a good dickin, is not holding onto a single one of them. When a small harem of old plates reemerges, I'll pick one (the best behaving), whether she's filling the role of my interim "main" or not, to actually do shit with. Movies, the occasional dinner & drinks, concerts, etc, but always a different one in that role than before.

I seem to learn the most reinforced lessons by how the return of an old plate manifests itself, not by ensnaring a new piece, which has become formulaic, time permitting.

(09-21-2015 11:35 AM)kaotic Wrote:  

(09-21-2015 12:38 AM)pipeliner85 Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 08:01 PM)robreke Wrote:  I think I may be trigger shy due to the fact the last 4 or 5 times I've asked for a girl's number in the past few weeks, before I stopped asking for numbers, the girls have refused to give me their numbers.

u got rejected 5 times in a row and that's it? dude, that's barely nothing, I would get discouraged after 30 attempts. U just have to keep trying, anyone can have a bad stretch

Maybe it's the not the attempts, maybe it's your way of approaching a girl, making her comfortable enough to give you her number.

It might be time to evaluate that instead of the amount of approaches and requests for a number.

Yes, I've been thinking about my overall vibe. I'm think I was coming across as being outcome dependent and agreeing too much with what they said.

A kind of game regression because in the past, I challenged girls, didn't necessarily agree with what they said, teased and limited my smiling.

Planning on going back to the basics.

(09-21-2015 12:38 PM)MrXY Wrote:  Anybody know anything about the characteristics of social workers and how to game them? I have a date with one who is an executive in some nonprofit . They've always struck as busybody, know-it-all do-gooders but I've never had a date with one.

Should I act "troubled" in dark bad boy kind of way so she will try to fix me? Are they pious and uptight so I shouldn't bother? Kind of clueless here.

My experience with them is definitely have that bad boy vibe, but suppress it enough so she doesn't think it's a caricature you're putting on, and you remain "presentable" if need be in social settings where you might bump into her social circle.

And yes, maintain the mystery shit in a way they don't entirely know what your "problem" is they want to fix, just that they know they should want to fix it. Haha.

Think of them as psychologists in training, trying to figure out you as their "case study," when in fact we all know a psychologist is her own biggest case she can't figure out.

Fucked up a date with a cute and cool Indian girl the other day. I landed in the no-mans-land of making out with her too much but not getting the bang so all I did was activate ASD and she's gone ghost on me.

The date went really well, she was cuter than in her pictures, seemed really into me so at the second bar I went for the kiss and got it without hesitation. Played it cool, kept the convo going and then wound the date up with an offer to drive her home as she lived near me and had come to the date from work. She accepted and when we got to my car I went for another makeout and I think this is where I screwed up. I just made out with her and didn't escalate any further to really get her wet and make her want to come home with me, so when on the way home I suggested we stop by my place for another drink before I dropped her home she declined saying she had to get up early in the morning. If I'd escalated harder and go her tingling she may have agreed to coming in to my place, instead I just activated her ASD.
When I dropped her off at her place we had another makeout session in the car but she pulled away when I tried to escalate.

Looking back over the few dates where I've made out with a chick and not go the bang, they have all ghosted me afterwards. This most recent example has just confirmed to me that you either don't go for the makeout until she's back at your place, or if you do, you need to escalate so far that she's begging you to bang her. Getting caught in the no mans land of a makeout with no bang just seems to activate ASD.
If I don't get the girl to come back to my place (i.e. isolate) at the end of the date it's either end the date with a light kiss/hug or go for broke and escalate hard to try and convince her.

I just purchased my copy of Bang. Let's get to reading.

When in doubt, return to the basics. Stick to what you know.

Take some time off. Catch up on sleep for a few days. Do a juice fast. Get lost in a nature preserve and reset your mind.

We're in the full swing of social season. September - November is prime time to lock some girls up before the holidays slow down. Don't want to miss out.

(09-22-2015 01:01 PM)redbeard Wrote:  When in doubt, return to the basics. Stick to what you know.

Take some time off. Catch up on sleep for a few days. Do a juice fast. Get lost in a nature preserve and reset your mind.

We're in the full swing of social season. September - November is prime time to lock some girls up before the holidays slow down. Don't want to miss out.

Don't knock December either. Bitches be horny because of the cold and wanting to lock down a man for the Holidays. It's open season till right after Valentine's Day honestly.

On a personal note. The game steels you. I'm not honestly as emotionally invested in trying really hard to stay in touch with leads anymore. I'm getting more lazy at responding, and I think it might be driving some of them nuts(good for me). Had one start screenshotting pictures of me on my snapchat to grab my attention the other day so I would text her.

I can definitely say things are improving on the mental front.

First time I've bought flowers for my LTR (1.75 year) - there I said it.

Just because I wanted to - we had a pretty bitching day yesterday and she sowed a bunch of stuff I needed done, drove me around, and bought me some stuff for the pad.

Some potential leads ate still good, these 2 indian girls are more out of town then I am, the year old is committing to Sunday again.

The one that had ASD on text I found out doesn't drive, but would Uber to meet me. The black 7.5 is still down to meet again.

I've just got a busy weekend starting Friday - Sunday. We'll see what pans out.

Two guys run a coffee shop and a GAME podcast.

They get found out.

But dude dropped some science in his fifty lays.

https://web.archive.org/web/201505142320...l-my-lays/

(09-23-2015 02:23 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Two guys run a coffee shop and a GAME podcast.

They get found out.

But dude dropped some science in his fifty lays.

https://web.archive.org/web/201505142320...l-my-lays/

Holistic Game....

15 min close on POF

1 Day of Barely Texting

Solid Text Game

Cute 7 Middle Eastern Girl - daddy gets mad at her for going out and having fun.

We know what happens next: Don't fuck up game and dominate her in the bedroom.

Something tells me she'll be a great Sub or BDSM girl.


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Upon more experience reflect on mistakes less especially beginner ones that are due to rust.

The energy and time is better spent on larger things. Experience will ingrain itself into you through your instincts in a primal way.

You make opportunity through consistent effort. Aimer higher, when in a set and you know it's starting to go down hill with a very good looking girl especially take risks, tease her, try to set her off. Also when in set don't go through the motions if you are comfortable use that extra piece of your mind to relax even more, set your body language look at her with intent. Notice how she is feeling, bring it up in a smooth open ended way. Checking out when you are doing well is laziness. You can be lazy when she is chasing you, not in the beginning.

The vast majority of women are nice deep down especially when comfortable around people they trust. Try to find this person within each girl.

These are things I am mindful of in what I would conclude is getting towards the end of my intermediate phase. Emotional control is the crux.

(09-23-2015 02:23 PM)WestIndianArchie Wrote:  Two guys run a coffee shop and a GAME podcast.

They get found out.

But dude dropped some science in his fifty lays.

https://web.archive.org/web/201505142320...l-my-lays/

I read a little bit. Especially through his summary of girls. I saw he said he can have positive experiences with American girls.

Then in the beginning he lists busted chicks. Later he lists careerist chicks and ones not respecting his time.

This guy was calling Roosh out as pessimistic.

Then out of 50 some girls he said 1 was LTR worthy? And this is small town North Carolina where girls on paper would be more prone on paper to by relationship material rather than status seeking, fun times tier 1 metropolis girls.

He sees how to attract girls and bang them, keep them in line.

He does seem very subpar on ferreting out hoes though saying only 3 were on the ride. I don't buy that when he says 1 in 50 was LTR material. He talks about pierced nipples, trashy single moms, stoners with bland personalities. Those were all 3 in a row I saw at quick glance.

If you're happy with what you are getting why strive for better quality (personality, demeanor, respect for time) ?

The most despondent will reach the highest.

@kaotic, solid text game. I'm still over thinking it with the apps.

With cold approach I recently did my first direct with a Dominican 7 that works at the local grocery store. I spoke in spanish because she doesn't necessarily understand everything in english, but she said that she couldn't go out with me because she's consado (married).

The weather is going to be shit this weekend. Its quite likely that I'll only be at home or in the gym.

Wrighter I've been finding myself opening anyone around me in general. I've got text game and number farming online on lock.

Just warming up is great, you find what can see akward, you find weaknesses, in your approach.

You get rid of the knot in your stomach and the lump in your throat, you breath heavily before you talk.

It all goes away, I've always been sociable and extroverted, but I'm just paying attention more to how I act and what I say to a person.

Had a girl back tonight who was pretty cute. Got whisky dick and basically could have stuffed it in and fucked her raw but wasn't about to slip a condom on and stay hard. She was giving heavy resistance saying "just grab a condom" "I don't have any (I can't get hard)" while I tried to fuck her, lasted about 45 minutes. After backing off I went back in with some heavy dirty whispering like "I know you want that dick inside your pussy" type stuff and got her really going, and she just hopped on my dick and starts riding. Eventually I'm about to nut which she senses and I'm preparing to pull out when she just latches on with her legs and says "no stay in me!", which I did. Should have nutted when I was hitting from the back. As I was walking her to her friends apartment she wouldn't stop saying things like "omg I hope you're not judging me right now, you so are."

This chick went from refusing to have sex without me wearing a condom to basically forcing me to cum inside her, which to me is a mind boggling swing, and something I never really do because it scares me. Cross my finders that reality doesn't bite on this one. In any case, I'd rather have hosed her down.

^Get her plan b. You don't want that trouble.

(09-22-2015 06:27 AM)Roardog Wrote:  Fucked up a date with a cute and cool Indian girl the other day. I landed in the no-mans-land of making out with her too much but not getting the bang so all I did was activate ASD and she's gone ghost on me.

The date went really well, she was cuter than in her pictures, seemed really into me so at the second bar I went for the kiss and got it without hesitation. Played it cool, kept the convo going and then wound the date up with an offer to drive her home as she lived near me and had come to the date from work. She accepted and when we got to my car I went for another makeout and I think this is where I screwed up. I just made out with her and didn't escalate any further to really get her wet and make her want to come home with me, so when on the way home I suggested we stop by my place for another drink before I dropped her home she declined saying she had to get up early in the morning. If I'd escalated harder and go her tingling she may have agreed to coming in to my place, instead I just activated her ASD.
When I dropped her off at her place we had another makeout session in the car but she pulled away when I tried to escalate.

Looking back over the few dates where I've made out with a chick and not go the bang, they have all ghosted me afterwards. This most recent example has just confirmed to me that you either don't go for the makeout until she's back at your place, or if you do, you need to escalate so far that she's begging you to bang her. Getting caught in the no mans land of a makeout with no bang just seems to activate ASD.
If I don't get the girl to come back to my place (i.e. isolate) at the end of the date it's either end the date with a light kiss/hug or go for broke and escalate hard to try and convince her.

Pretty much the exact same scenario happened with me the other night. Got back from the clubs, made out on the bed, but every time I attempted to escalate further she would physically move my hand away and wouldn't let me take off her top. I tried everything, but whipping my dick out LOL.