Post: #76

(11-04-2013 09:15 PM)The Lizard of Oz Wrote:  MikeCF, who said anything about "functional strength"? And who said anything about "kipping pullups"?

Here's what I wrote in the OP:

Quote:There is no better exercise for developing a strong and proportional upper body than strict straight bar pull-ups done with perfect form. That is:

-- completely locked out at the bottom
-- going up as as high above the bar as you can
-- moving up and down in one plane instead of swinging your body for momentum

From what I've observed I think it's also under-utilized because when done correctly it get very hard very quickly. I see a lot more guys in the gym duly and dully curling dumbbells than I see doing strict pullups, that's for sure.

I'm with you 100%. Strict-form pullups are a rare sight these days. I personally started at 2 and now max out at 23. My body has gone through a dramatic change over the last 2 years and I strongly believe that pullups helped me get there. The only thing I would disagree with you on is "going up as high above the bar as you can." No need for that. Just make sure your chin clears the bar. Any higher and it's overkill.

Post: #77

(11-05-2013 09:46 AM)pavel_eskimoso Wrote:  I'm with you 100%. Strict-form pullups are a rare sight these days.

When I was in the Marines we could kip out 20 pullups for the win. But 1/2 way though my tour they changed it to strict form, and I had to do some scrambling over a few months to get back to 20. No kipping and your chin has to be 90 degees and break the plain of the bar. That made it tough but it increased our fitness levels.

Before that I looked like an inch worm on crack twerking to a Miley Cyrus song doing my kipping.

Post: #78

(11-05-2013 10:00 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  

(11-05-2013 09:46 AM)pavel_eskimoso Wrote:  I'm with you 100%. Strict-form pullups are a rare sight these days.

When I was in the Marines we could kip out 20 pullups for the win. But 1/2 way though my tour they changed it to strict form, and I had to do some scrambling over a few months to get back to 20. No kipping and your chin has to be 90 degees and break the plain of the bar. That made it tough but it increased our fitness levels.

Before that I looked like an inch worm on crack twerking to a Miley Cyrus song doing my kipping.

what was the average guy doing strict in bootcamp when you were in?

Post: #79

(11-04-2013 03:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  What the fuck does "functional" mean???

just saying, most commercial gyms are trying to make themselves more look like crossfit gyms, thats a trend that will continue for a long time, and if it means the eliptical machine business takes a hit, then thats a good thing.

Post: #80

When I joined you had to do 3 dead hangs or go to Physical Conditioning Platoon, which was a nightmare. I don't know the before and after averages, but I showed massive improvement in pullups, as I'd lost almost 30 lbs by the end. I was a fat little fuck. My fat ass was dragging my own self down on pullup scores.

Post: #81

(11-05-2013 10:53 AM)Aliblahba Wrote:  When I joined you had to do 3 dead hangs or go to Physical Conditioning Platoon, which was a nightmare. I don't know the before and after averages, but I showed massive improvement in pullups, as I'd lost almost 30 lbs by the end. I was a fat little fuck. My fat ass was dragging my own self down on pullup scores.

I have seen a few Marine pull up competitions and the better guys that could go over 30 looked like they had a tight minimal kip, but not enough to be called out on it. Really surprised though how much progress you can make doing consistent strict pullups everyday.

Post: #82

The last trip to the sandbox the guys called me out, so I went to the pullup bar next to the tent and knocked out 15 dead hangs with a cigarette in my mouth. They shut up. Now I'd be luck to do 10. I'm hella outta shape right now.

From experience though to increase pullups you need to change the exercise, ie. resistance, grip, grip width, type of bar, ect. And as raj mentioned, hold that last one in the set. That's Arnie science. It works.

Post: #83

Old thread but wondering how safe this is. Anyone has experience with one like below? They are mounted between door posts.

Post: #84

^ I have had one of those for about 5 years. Had no issues with it at all yet.

Post: #85

(10-03-2015 01:49 PM)DeeDee Wrote:  Old thread but wondering how safe this is. Anyone has experience with one like below? They are mounted between door posts.

I used such a model for a while, but I crashed two times on the ground with it. I would not recommend such a model.

Recently, I bought this one (Amazon):


Way better and I don't need to worry that I crash onto the ground.

Post: #86

(11-02-2013 11:59 PM)Vaun Wrote:  Iron Mind is good, but this would be my option if all I wanted was to install a decent bar in a home; http://www.studbarpullup.com/

I've used one on these and it is solid although expensive and has to be installed.

Post: #87

(10-07-2015 05:42 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  

(11-02-2013 11:59 PM)Vaun Wrote:  Iron Mind is good, but this would be my option if all I wanted was to install a decent bar in a home; http://www.studbarpullup.com/

I've used one on these and it is solid although expensive and has to be installed.

I bought this a couple of weeks ago. It's not too hard to install if you know what you're doing, and it will last a lifetime.

Post: #88

(11-01-2013 02:11 AM)RioNomad Wrote:  For $700 you can get a power cage which would allow you to do pullups, and way more.

Pullups are great, but pullups plus squats, presses, deadlifts and rows is even better.

I'd take the $700 and keep my eye on craigslist. I've seen solid cages on there with Olympic bars and weights for great prices.

But yea, pullups are an awesome exercise.

Got all that shit on craigslist. An investment that keeps on givin'.

Post: #89

During the week on my way to the slave, i do 3 styles, 10 sets each @ stops. Ten stops so a hundred pull ups before work, done on the last car to minimize attention whoring and from the city to Da Burbs so usually empty.

   

Post: #90

I'm not too trusting of those doorway pullup contraptions. I bought one years ago and noticed the only thing that will be holding me up is a flimsy piece of metal. I sent it back and got something better and went to a gym aswell.

Post: #91

I've noticed that I can do slightly more pull ups and they're slightly easier when I do them on the door frame pull up bar at my house compared to a fixed bar at the gym. Not sure if this is psychological, or if it has something to do with the fact that there's a bit of give with the door frame bar. I'm thinking it might be kinda like how in basketball, shots go in more with a rim with some give compared to a super stiff rim where the ball will bounce up 8 feet. Anybody else noticed this?

Post: #92

(11-04-2013 09:49 PM)Doctore Wrote:  Tip: if you're gonna do high volume pullups daily (or 3-4x weekly), rings or TRX are safer than straight bar for your shoulder health. Do straight bar too, but don't overdo it.

Safer or not, for those who have problem to hang a pull up bar Gym Rings may be the best alternative possible and the challenge is way harder because the rings aren't stable (Bought a set for less than 30euros on Amazon and they worth it).
You only need to set the hook like you'll do for a punching bag or you can hang them anywhere else.

I base my workout on this video:



Set myself a new challenge (climbing) for next year and the requirement is to be able to lift your body 15 to 25 times to begin with.

My .02

Post: #93

I've been inspired by this thread to do more pullups. I've only been doing sets of about 5-8 pullups spread out throughout the day. I haven't even counted how many sets I've done, I just do them whenever I walk past my pullup bar, so probably about 8-12 sets a day.

Everytime I do this I can feel it in my back the next day, even though it feels like I'm being lazy and not doing a proper workout.

I get a similiar DOMS from just doing a lot of sets of harder pushup variations throughout the day.

I can't tell if this 'pick one or two exercises to do all day' is the simplest and most effective workout method I've tried or if I've just gotten really weak.

Post: #94

I bought a pullup bar the other day after reading this thread. Been getting a bit bored with weight training at home with 10 kilo dumbells. About time I got on some body-weight stuff.

Post: #95

(10-15-2015 08:21 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  I've been inspired by this thread to do more pullups. I've only been doing sets of about 5-8 pullups spread out throughout the day. I haven't even counted how many sets I've done, I just do them whenever I walk past my pullup bar, so probably about 8-12 sets a day.

Everytime I do this I can feel it in my back the next day, even though it feels like I'm being lazy and not doing a proper workout.

I get a similiar DOMS from just doing a lot of sets of harder pushup variations throughout the day.

I can't tell if this 'pick one or two exercises to do all day' is the simplest and most effective workout method I've tried or if I've just gotten really weak.

That's called grease the groove. There's a fancier name for it but I forget what it is. Pick one or two exercises and do a random amount of sets of them during the day. Some days it might be 5, other days it might be 15, doesn't really matter. You don't do them to failure so you trade intensity for volume and very high frequency.

There's a bunch of science behind it, all you need to know is that, yes you can make some serious gains with it. Pavel popularized it but he probably got it from Zatsiorsky's book.

Zatsiorsky Wrote:Train as heavy as possible, as often as possible, as fresh as possible.

If you want to learn more about it, look for a copy of this book.

Post: #96

Man that side advice in the OP on hanging from the bar is pretty good, great stretch for my spine and lats. Doing it every day now. One cool trick is Jutting your head forward while hanging, keeping your chin up. Cracks your back and feels great. It's actually helping me hang longer because I am so distracted trying to get that deep crack, and once I get it, the relief powers me through for a while longer!

Post: #97

(10-10-2015 01:14 PM)Kingsley Davis Wrote:  During the week on my way to the slave, i do 3 styles, 10 sets each @ stops. Ten stops so a hundred pull ups before work, done on the last car to minimize attention whoring and from the city to Da Burbs so usually empty.

Is this you?

Post: #98

(11-04-2013 03:49 PM)Giovonny Wrote:  What the fuck does "functional" mean???

It means that you can use the strength in real life situations?

Banging a girl is a real life situation. So, if the exercise helps me bang better and longer, its functional.

Lifting weights is a real life situation. So, if the exercise helps me lift weight better, its functional.

Playing sports is a real life situation. So, if the exercise helps me play ball better, its functional.

Modeling is a real life situation. So, if the exercise helps me get a modeling contract, it functional.

Bodybuilding is a real life situation. So, if the exercise make me a better bodybuilder, its functional.

Arm wrestling is a real life situation. So, if the exercise helps me become a better arm wrestler, its functional.

"Functional" is all relative to ones life and ones personal "functions".

Any exercise can be functional as long as you use it in real life.

Aye. The first time I tried surfing, it was hard. I lifted hard for several months before the second time, and it was much easier. About as functional as it gets, in my book.

Post: #99

doing weighted pullups and dips at the gym make me feel like a boss. Im only 150 lbs, so not big, but adding a 45 lbs plate to pullups or 60+ for dips is a good feeling.

You realize that such a small percentage of people can do these 2 excercises with just their body weight and an even smaller can do it with additional weights.

Post: #100

What do people think about muscle-ups? Are they just flashy, or worth doing?

I wish more gyms had rings instead of the latest bullshit gadget the industry has managed to think up.