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Zelcorpion · 2015-09-28 15:21:00 · #2676
(09-28-2015 03:00 PM)WildBoar Wrote:  ^ That's Hungarian, I believe! ... Not that it matters much.

It's Ukrainian TV and a Hungarian voice-over being done over it - 2 voices heard if you listen clearly. The subtitles were done well now.
Handsome Creepy Eel · 2015-09-28 15:35:00 · #2677
Guys, I need your help with some investigative journalism about the owners of Croatian media - to be precise, finding out who the up-the-chain owners of some organizations are.

I have been able to reach this conclusion so far and have added my remaining concerns in bold:

Quote:Note that all of our media are directly owned by one of these three foreign corporations:

- EPH - EuropaPress Holding (owned by Funke Mediengruppe) (who owns Funke Mediengruppe???)
- Central European Media Enterprises (owned by Time Warner) (which is then further owned by funds like Vanguard and banks like JP Morgan Chase - is there any further person or organization behind these, or the hole ends with them?)
- Styria Media Group AG (owned by Katholischer Medien Verein Privatstiftung - Catholic Media Association Private Foundation) (who owns the Katholischer Medien Verein privatstuftung???)

Any help would be much appreciated!
iop890 · 2015-09-28 15:46:00 · #2678
(09-28-2015 03:35 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  (who owns Funke Mediengruppe???)

Family owned.
Quote:Funke Mediengruppe is owned by the family of the same name after the acquisition of a 50 percent stake held by the Brost family in January 2012. Jakob Funke and Erich Brost founded the newspaper in 1948. Before today’s deal, the group owned more than 30 newspapers, 170 special-interest and trade magazines, 100 advertising papers and 400 customer magazines, according to its website.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...-2-billion

More useful info: http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/hist...Group.html

Look into Gunther and Petra Grotkamp

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Quote:Cofounder Jakob Funke died in 1975 at age 73.

After his death he was replaced by Günther Grotkamp, an experienced lawyer who had earned the respect and trust of the Funke family after he joined WAZ in 1960 and who worked closely with Jakob Funke up until his death. Grotkamp was considered the architect of the WAZ Group which was formed in 1978 to incorporate the acquired publishing houses into the company.

In 1986 Grotkamp married Petra Funke, the youngest of the three Funke daughters. Under the leadership of Grotkamp and Schumann WAZ Group greatly expanded its activities into other print media

When the rest of WAZ shareholders took a large sum out of the business in September 2005 without her approval, Petra Grotkamp went to court. At the end of 2005 it looked as if the decision about WAZ Group's future structure could be determined by a court ruling. At the same time, the Funke family had not yet appointed the managers who were to succeed Lutz Glandt and Detlef Haaks. Yet, with Schumann and Grotkamp in their late 70s, it was only a matter of time until a new manager generation would take over WAZ leadership.


Key Executives For FUNKE MEDIENGRUPPE

Manfred Braun-Co-Managing Director
Michael Wuller-Co-Managing Director
Erich Brost-Founder (bought out in 2012)
Stephan Kunzer-Chief Financial Officer, Head of Finance & Accounting Department and Member of Management Board
Alexander Ruben-Head of Operations

Petra Grotkamp is the only member of the supervisory board.

Since acquiring shares from the Brost family, Petra now owns 2/3rds of the Funke Media Group.

So it look like this old german woman controls a large chunk of the media in Croatia. (And Bulgaria, Hungary, Austria, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, etc.)

That's about all I can find right now, but I think we got the answer. Petra Grotkamp owns the majority of the media group, and her two sisters likely own most of the remaining 3rd, but they don't seem to be in any way involved in running the group.
Caravaggio · 2015-09-28 15:47:00 · #2679
Some news from Austria:

This sunday, Öberösterreich (Upper Austria, one of the 9 states of Austria) elected their federal government. Apparently, the right-wing party FPÖ gained 50% more votes compared to the last election (from 15% to 30%). The ÖVP (conservative party), strongest party in the country for centuries lost 10% and is now at 36%, SPÖ (Socialists) got 18%.

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What can we conclude out of this once again? People are fed up with the governments suicidal import of foreigners and see their only chance to stand up against this madness in electing far-right.


There are also elections in Vienna later that year. The city is traditionally voting socialists but they governed with the green party for the last couple of years. Now the FPÖ and their leader H.C. Strache enter the ring and so far it looks like they will galvanize the establishment. If the socialist stronghold of vienna falls, things will drastically change in the country of mozart and sound of music.
Handsome Creepy Eel · 2015-09-28 15:58:00 · #2680
(09-28-2015 03:46 PM)iop890 Wrote:  
(09-28-2015 03:35 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  (who owns Funke Mediengruppe???)

Family owned.
Quote:Funke Mediengruppe is owned by the family of the same name after the acquisition of a 50 percent stake held by the Brost family in January 2012. Jakob Funke and Erich Brost founded the newspaper in 1948. Before today’s deal, the group owned more than 30 newspapers, 170 special-interest and trade magazines, 100 advertising papers and 400 customer magazines, according to its website.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...-2-billion

More useful info: http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/hist...Group.html

Thanks iop, much appreciated.

Any information on who this family is and if they are major political donors in Germany or elsewhere?
iop890 · 2015-09-28 15:59:00 · #2681
(09-28-2015 03:58 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Thanks iop, much appreciated.

Any information on who this family is and if they are major political donors in Germany or elsewhere?

I'm editing my post as I find more.
Belgrano · 2015-09-28 15:59:00 · #2682
(09-28-2015 11:20 AM)El Chinito loco Wrote:  This is why i've always found these people and their culture to be deeply repulsive. Gulf arabs who live off these circumstances are mostly shitstains who won the black gold lottery.

They are hypocrites who seek to impose populist theocratic ideology in their own countries on the "commoners" and those worldwide but in private they have a completely different and decadent lifestyle for the privileged elite (themselves) around the world. This where the arrogance comes from. They are mostly too dumb to see this hypocrisy but the more delusional believe they have a religious right to act as they will against infidels as stated in the Koran.

Keep in mind these people aren't different at all from the caliphates who controlled vast regions of the middle east during the Mongol era. There's also a good reason why these same caliphates were nearly wiped off the face of the earth. Their own arrogance blinded them to certain stark realities from individuals and external people who wouldn't be so easily yoked under this double standard of belief.

The truth and nothing but the truth.
Recent case in point:

'Despicable' Saudi prince 'sexually abused multiple women during three-day party at his $37m Beverly Hills compound'
Quote:A Saudi Prince sexually abused and beat at least three women during a three-day party in his $37 million Beverly Hills home, a new lawsuit claims.
The graphic new allegations against Majed Abdulaziz Al-Saud, 28, were filed by his alleged victims on Friday night.

It comes two days after the monarch, who does not have diplomatic immunity, was arrested on suspicion of forcing a woman to perform oral sex on him.
According to the suit seen by the LA Times, Al-Saud's alleged victims described his behavior as 'extreme', 'outrageous', and 'despicable' as they were 'imprisoned' for days.

Police reported a 'party atmosphere' when they arrived at the house after a bleeding woman was allegedly seen trying to climb out of the housing compound.
Officers said they expect more women to begin coming forward with allegations.

Majed was charged with forced oral copulation of an adult on Friday, then quickly released after posting a $300,000 bond.
The Saudi prince is scheduled to be in Los Angeles court October 19th.

However, speaking to Mail Online, neighbors say they believe the prince has already fled the country on a private jet, leaving his rented house behind.
One woman, who would only give her name as Isabel, said: 'Numerous cars were coming in and out of the property late Thursday, and it looked like the Prince was moving out.'

Meanwhile another neighbor, Eric Stiskin, added: 'I am sure he has taken off on his private jet by now. I don't think he even needs a passport to get out of here.'
A third, who wished to remain anonymous, said: 'He has all the wealth to disappear and not come back. He can make a quick getaway, never come back and the accusations could still remain here.
'It's a cowardly way of dealing with things, when he should just face the music.'

Los Angeles police were called to the gated community in the 2500 block of Wallingford Drive, Beverly Glen area, earlier today after a caretaker reported a 'disturbance', officials said. When officers arrived, they interviewed Al-Saud's household and escorted some 20 people out of the house, officials said. In addition to the sex crime charge, Al-Saud is also facing one count each of battery and false imprisonment.

Neighbor Tennyson Collins told the LA Times that a resident had reported seeing a bleeding woman screaming for help as she desperately tried to climb the 8-foot-high walls on the prince's property.

The Saudi Arabia Embassy in Los Angeles and U.S. State Department were unavailable for comment.

These kind of incidents happen all the time in London, Paris and Switzerland for example. And they always get away with it, most often due to diplomatic immunity.
The Saudis alone produce enough of those scandals, never mind the royals of other gulf states:

Quote:In 2010, one prince made international headlines when he was caught on tape viciously beating his servant — and alleged male lover — to death at a five-star hotel in London. He was sentenced to 20 years in prison but faces harsher punishment back home, where homosexuality is considered a crime worthy of the death penalty.
That same year, WikiLeaks uncovered an alleged “raucous underground” culture of the Saudi royal youths where alcohol, drugs and prostitutes run rampant. And this year, a member of the royal entourage received a 10-year prison sentence in New York for rape at the Plaza Hotel.
There are 22,000 royals in Saudi Arabia, with about 7,000 princes — making the ratio about 1 royal per 1,000 non-royals — and not all are like the examples above.

Now American actress and part-time chauffeur Jayne Amelia Larson offers another look at the life of the royals in “Driving the Saudis”. Larson was hired by a branch of the Saudi royal family during a visit to Los Angeles, tasked to drive around a group of women who likely had never driven themselves. “I feel that hypocrisy is a common human flaw and the Saudis do not escape it,” Larson says. “It’s a complicated situation, even though you come from a pious society, we all have human inclinations and desires, especially if you have a billion dollars at your fingertips.”

Larson knew immediately that hers would not be an ordinary assignment. Especially since the first question asked of her was, “No Jew in you? We wouldn’t want to find out later.”

The arrival was even more astonishing to Larson, who was assigned to drive only the women of the group.
“Could a flight from Rio have come in the same time as theirs?” she asked herself, expecting to see veiled women exit the plane. Instead they were decked out in Prada, Gucci and Versace, looking like “a bunch of Brazilian hotties going nightclubbing.”
The only covered women were the servants, heads low, trailing reverently behind the royals.


Trips to the plastic surgeon’s office were made as lightly as picking out which restaurant to dine. Liposuction, breast implants, vaginal rejuvenation surgery (which Larson says was “startlingly popular”), they get it all — and many get multiple procedures.

And shopping. Saudis reportedly buy 75% of the world’s haute couture, and this doesn’t seem outlandish once you hear what Larson saw firsthand. Bags of Jimmy Choo shoes, armloads of Christian Dior dresses and Hermes Birkin bags in every available color. A van trailed them and would make periodic runs back to the hotel to drop off their goods. Servants always took care of the bill because the royals never handled cash.

But maybe you don’t need a lot of rationale when you arrive with a literal chest full of dollars — $20 million in $100 notes. The family stayed for seven weeks — and each day was more demanding than the next for Larson. She was on-call 24/7 with the express mission that she should be “seen and not heard.”

She dealt with bratty teenagers who in between asking her about Paris Hilton and Kanye West ordered her around like a dog.

She tells the story of how one royal passed out after getting butt-implant surgery. As she tried to move the woman’s 180-pound body into her car, she called out to the woman’s relative for help to no avail. The other woman was on the phone with her son and could not be bothered to end the conversation.

Though she had minimal contact with the royals, she spoke often and freely with the servants, most of whom were from East Asia and North Africa.
Larson took these women to the local 99-cent store, where each picked out trinkets for their families at home and gawked at condoms. One woman even picked out a sexy push-up bra to wear during her wedding night when she returned home.
But Larson was dismayed at how the Saudi royals treated their servants, more like “24/7 slaves, as if they have no needs or desires of their own.”

One servant managed to escape in the middle of the night to defect with an American boyfriend, Larson writes. Another up and disappeared while waiting to board an airplane with her employer.

After all the sleepless nights, the 400-mile drives and the Hail Mary missions — culminating with her final assignment to track down 60 $500 Chantilly bras — the Saudi family finally left her with the envelope of tips she was working toward all this time.
She had heard that other men in her position — even less liked than her — got over $10,000.
She waited until the end of the day to open the envelope, and did it slowly to take it all in. One thousand dollars. She counted again to be sure.

“I was so disappointed. I was just stunned. And it dawned on me, I’d been a fool. Of course, it couldn’t be any other way. I’m a woman! What did I expect them to get Westernized overnight and treat me right?” said Larson.

More stories:

Quote:In 2004, Prince Nayef bin Fawwaz Al Shalaan was indicted in the United States and France for his involvement in a drug-dealing operation between South America and Europe.
(...)
The prince allegedly proposed smuggling cocaine on his private Boeing 727 jet, then laundering money through a bank he owned, Kanz Bank, “the only Islamic private bank in Geneva.”
(...)
Despite the Saudi kingdom’s draconian policies against drug trafficking, the prince claimed his meetings with the Colombians were merely a search for investors for a plastics venture and was found not guilty by their courts. As there are no extradition treaties between the kingdom and either France or the United States, there wasn’t much that investigators could do. The Saudi interior minister, Prince Nayef bin Abdel Aziz, even threatened to cancel several French business deals if the narcotics investigation continued.

Quote:Princess Misha’al bint Fahd al Saud was in an arranged marriage (by all accounts, an unhappy one) with an older cousin. She left for Beirut to pursue further studies. There, she met Khaled, the son of a Saudi diplomat, and began an affair. They maintained the affair back in the kingdom and finally attempted to flee the country together in 1977, but they were caught before they got very far. The princess refused to simply denounce her lover and confessed to the adultery, enraging her conservative grandfather, Muhammad bin Abdul Aziz al Saud, brother of the king.

She and her lover were taken to a parking lot in Jeddah, and 19-year-old Princess Misha’al was executed by a gunshot to the head while her lover watched. He would be dispatched by beheading, which was reportedly botched so badly that it took four strokes to complete.

Quote:Halloween is banned in the Saudi kingdom, as are most foreign holidays, for their “un-Islamic” nature. Every October, shopping malls are patrolled by religious police on the lookout for outlets selling costumes. But this prohibition doesn’t extend to the royal family.
In 2009, Prince Faisal al Thunayan held an underground Halloween party at his residence, inviting over 150 young Saudi men and women. Prince Faisal is a Cadet prince, meaning that he is not in line for the throne but still enjoys all the protection and perks of being a member of the royal family. The religious police were kept at bay by khawi, young Nigerian bodyguards of a similar age who grow up with their princes and serve for life and are considered utterly loyal.
The American consulate officials attending the event heard by word of mouth that many of the female guests were actually prostitutes hired for the event and also that cocaine and hashish use is common at these kind of parties.
Caravaggio · 2015-09-28 16:14:00 · #2683
(09-28-2015 03:35 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Guys, I need your help with some investigative journalism about the owners of Croatian media - to be precise, finding out who the up-the-chain owners of some organizations are.

The Styria Media Group AG is Austria's largest news-coporation and is owned by the "Katholischer Medien Verein Privatstiftung" -> the church?! It is somewhat unclear who exactly stands behind them, I did some research but I didn't found anything concrete. The management obviously claims that they are unbiased of any political party, the church, etc...

But what Stiftung (foundation) basically means is that the profit has to be used according to their statutes:

Quote:(Google Translate)
The Styria Media Group AG is entitled to 98.33% owned by the Catholic Media Association Privatstiftung, 8010 Graz, Gadollaplatz 1;
Donors: The Catholic Media Association and Dr. Josef Heuberger, Dr. hc Franz Küberl and rain Mag. Franz Josef Rauch.
Beneficiary: The beneficiary or beneficiaries shall be determined by the Foundation Board. The determination must be made taking into account the purpose of the Foundation exclusively for charitable, charitable or church purposes.
Purpose of the foundation:
First, the foundation pursues exclusively charitable, benevolent and religious purposes within the meaning of §§ 34 ff Federal Tax Code, as amended (ie currently, apart from development assistance, mostly in the federal territory).
Secondly, the Foundation promotes from its earnings Christian media work, in particular the formation of media professionals, the production and distribution of audiovisual works of any kind that the spirit of the Catholic Church and its teachings, the dialogue between faith and science, of ecumenical and interreligious encounter, Catholic social teaching, the protection of human dignity and the principles of democracy and international understanding serve.
Thirdly, the Foundation can support needy people.

The Foundation Board members are: Chairman Univ. Prof. Dr. Dr. h. C. Johann Trummer, Deputy Chairman Dr. Friedrich Santner, Retired Chief Kommerzialrat Georg Doppelhofer, Dr. Karl Schleinzer, Mag. Sieglinde Pailer.

Source: http://www.styria.com/impressum

It is pretty strange that you hardly find any information neither about the foundation nor about their chairmen. I will do some advanced research tomorrow!
Belgrano · 2015-09-28 16:36:00 · #2684
(09-28-2015 03:35 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  
Quote:Note that all of our media are directly owned by one of these three foreign corporations:
- Styria Media Group AG (owned by Katholischer Medien Verein Privatstiftung - Catholic Media Association Private Foundation) (who owns the Katholischer Medien Verein privatstuftung???)
Any help would be much appreciated!

The Katholischer Medienverein Privatstiftung is de facto, but not de jure owned by the Roman Catholic Diocese of Graz-Seckau. The relevant decisionmakers, members of the board and official owners all come from the milieu surrounding the church and the management of the Styria Group. Most people hold more than one position in the structure, having jobs in the foundation, the Styria Group and its subsidiaries at the same time. My guess is that the Church simply transferred everything into the ownership of the nominally independent foundation to save money on taxes.

By the way I also heard that the Styria Group wants to get rid of its Croatian and Slovenian investments, as they are not profitable and are considered failed and short-sighted adventures.
iop890 · 2015-09-28 16:38:00 · #2685
(09-28-2015 03:46 PM)iop890 Wrote:  
(09-28-2015 03:35 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  (who owns Funke Mediengruppe???)

Family owned.
Quote:Funke Mediengruppe is owned by the family of the same name after the acquisition of a 50 percent stake held by the Brost family in January 2012. Jakob Funke and Erich Brost founded the newspaper in 1948. Before today’s deal, the group owned more than 30 newspapers, 170 special-interest and trade magazines, 100 advertising papers and 400 customer magazines, according to its website.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2...-2-billion

More useful info: http://www.referenceforbusiness.com/hist...Group.html

Look into Gunther and Petra Grotkamp

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Quote:Cofounder Jakob Funke died in 1975 at age 73.

After his death he was replaced by Günther Grotkamp, an experienced lawyer who had earned the respect and trust of the Funke family after he joined WAZ in 1960 and who worked closely with Jakob Funke up until his death. Grotkamp was considered the architect of the WAZ Group which was formed in 1978 to incorporate the acquired publishing houses into the company.

In 1986 Grotkamp married Petra Funke, the youngest of the three Funke daughters. Under the leadership of Grotkamp and Schumann WAZ Group greatly expanded its activities into other print media

When the rest of WAZ shareholders took a large sum out of the business in September 2005 without her approval, Petra Grotkamp went to court. At the end of 2005 it looked as if the decision about WAZ Group's future structure could be determined by a court ruling. At the same time, the Funke family had not yet appointed the managers who were to succeed Lutz Glandt and Detlef Haaks. Yet, with Schumann and Grotkamp in their late 70s, it was only a matter of time until a new manager generation would take over WAZ leadership.


Key Executives For FUNKE MEDIENGRUPPE

Manfred Braun-Co-Managing Director
Michael Wuller-Co-Managing Director
Erich Brost-Founder (bought out in 2012)
Stephan Kunzer-Chief Financial Officer, Head of Finance & Accounting Department and Member of Management Board
Alexander Ruben-Head of Operations

Petra Grotkamp is the only member of the supervisory board.

Since acquiring shares from the Brost family, Petra now owns 2/3rds of the Funke Media Group.

So it look like this old german woman controls a large chunk of the media in Croatia. (And Bulgaria, Hungary, Austria, Macedonia, Serbia, Montenegro, etc.)

That's about all I can find right now, but I think we got the answer. Petra Grotkamp owns the majority of the media group, and her two sisters likely own most of the remaining 3rd, but they don't seem to be in any way involved in running the group.

Quote:Petra Grotkamp retained Rothschild and UniCredit Bank. Rothschild also advised Ms. Grotkamp

Quote:Rothschild

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johnfortunebg · 2015-09-28 17:07:00 · #2686
Multiculturalism YES

Quote:A Muslim father in Germany has admitted to strangling his 19-year-old daughter to death after she was caught shoplifting condoms to be with her boyfriend.

Does that mean that when dating a muslim girl one has not only to worry about him being knifed by her brother but also for her being strangled by her family?
Just FYI, they are originally from Pakistan, land of enlightenment, liberty and reason.

I wonder how many honor killings are necessary to turn 1% of feminists against the invasion? I guess a lot more than we are currently seeing.
Dan Woolf · 2015-09-28 17:33:00 · #2687
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iop890 · 2015-09-28 18:16:00 · #2688
Wrong thread
Sombro · 2015-09-28 19:39:00 · #2689


Dan Woolf · 2015-09-28 20:16:00 · #2690
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MikeS · 2015-09-28 20:30:00 · #2691
(09-28-2015 05:33 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  
(09-28-2015 05:07 PM)johnfortunebg Wrote:  Multiculturalism YES

Quote:A Muslim father in Germany has admitted to strangling his 19-year-old daughter to death after she was caught shoplifting condoms to be with her boyfriend.

Does that mean that when dating a muslim girl one has not only to worry about him being knifed by her brother but also for her being strangled by her family?
Just FYI, they are originally from Pakistan, land of enlightenment, liberty and reason.

I wonder how many honor killings are necessary to turn 1% of feminists against the invasion? I guess a lot more than we are currently seeing.

To be honest, it's a part of their culture and we need to respect that. It might seem crazy, even unacceptable to you because of your upbringing, but to them it's the way of life. We just need to understand them and their customs.

Oh and by the way, offense can't be given, it has to be taken.

There's not much understanding required there. "Honor" killings of family members are just fucked up in any kind of society and deserve no respect whatsoever - like assorted other Islamic pastimes like beheadings of infidels, rape and killing or attempting to kill assorted journalists and cartoonists.

Personally I'd just keep my dick far away from any muslim girl I have not verified is from an overtly secular family. Too much risk for both myself and her, and plenty of girls to go around from less psychotic cultures.
uncledick · 2015-09-28 21:06:00 · #2692
(09-28-2015 03:05 PM)TonySandos Wrote:  Here is a decent video explaining the long term effects.

Can these numbers be verified/sourced?




Those numbers are suspect. But nonetheless a true Islamic Majority in any given state of Europe is not the real concern to me in the least for now, because it's further down the road.

It's who ultimately dominates the 15-40 year old male demographic. With male youth comes energy, risk taking, living for the day, a propensity for violence and idealism (For Islam, fundamentalism)

So in this case by 2040-50 (earlier in some countries, like France, maybe even Germany if the migrant train doesn't stop). A half dozen or so European states will have Islamic majorities in this important societal changing demographic.

On the fast track for this esteemed union is The Netherlands, Beligum, France, Germany and Sweden. With the UK, Denmark and Austria as prospects.

Europeans in that demographic might be a hardened bunch after getting beat around for a few decades and may prove that their limited numbers will win the day. But I'm not holding my breath.
quino_16 · 2015-09-28 21:09:00 · #2693
Relevant

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Libertas · 2015-09-28 21:20:00 · #2694
(09-28-2015 09:06 PM)uncledick Wrote:  Those numbers are suspect. But nonetheless a true Islamic Majority in any given state of Europe is not the real concern to me in the least for now, because it's further down the road.

It's who ultimately dominates the 15-40 year old male demographic. With male youth comes energy, risk taking, living for the day, a propensity for violence and idealism (For Islam, fundamentalism)

So in this case by 2040-50 (earlier in some countries, like France, maybe even Germany if the migrant train doesn't stop). A half dozen or so European states will have Islamic majorities in this important societal changing demographic.

On the fast track for this esteemed union is The Netherlands, Beligum, France, Germany and Sweden. With the UK, Denmark and Austria as prospects.

Europeans in that demographic might be a hardened bunch after getting beat around for a few decades and may prove that their limited numbers will win the day. But I'm not holding my breath.

I'm not so sure that's accurate, because the immigrant birth rate does decline after the first or second generations to the native population's level.

The problem is the immigration keeps coming and they don't stop letting them in. Maybe they factor that in, which would be correct.

So if they stop it, the overall demographics should remain unchanged.

Europeans really need to start rioting against the EU. How was the gathering for the Czech National Day?
iop890 · 2015-09-28 22:09:00 · #2695
Angela Merkel caught on hot mic griping to Facebook CEO over anti-immigrant posts

Quote:German Chancellor Angela Merkel was overheard confronting Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg over incendiary posts on the social network, Bloomberg reported on Sunday, amid complaints from her government about anti-immigrant posts in the midst of Europe's refugee crisis.

On the sidelines of a United Nations luncheon on Saturday, Merkel was caught on a hot mic pressing Zuckerberg about social media posts about the wave of Syrian refugees entering Germany, the publication reported.

The Facebook CEO was overheard responding that "we need to do some work" on curtailing anti-immigrant posts about the refugee crisis. "Are you working on this?" Merkel asked in English, to which Zuckerberg replied in the affirmative before the transmission was disrupted.

In recent weeks, hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees have washed up on Europe's shores, seeking asylum from the raging civil war in their homeland. As Europe's largest economy, Germany has sheltered the majority of them, leading to widespread objections within the country.

Earlier this month, Facebook vowed to clean up what it deemed was racist content on the German version of its website. At the time, the social network said it would partner with a non profit group to oversee hate postings.

Yet any action from Facebook is likely to stoke concerns about free speech. In the past, the social network has come under suspicion for suppressing or deleting posts and groups that advocate unpopular beliefs.

Our favorite globalist shill is working overtime to shut down anti-migrant speech.

People are waking up and Angie knows she's going to take a lot of the blame when shit goes down.
Eskhander · 2015-09-28 22:23:00 · #2696
Yea. The issue is not fertility.

Same with Hispanics in the US. They do fall under replacement.

But immigration drives it all the same.

Young Europeans in most countries seem to be more nationalistic than their Boomer parents. Only exception I see is Germany (which is still 90% German, not simply white).

As I understand it, Denmark even managed to use welfare policy to suppress the birthrates of those with a migrant background. It's pretty interesting how anti-immigrant Denmark. Even the left wing party has had to campaign on less immigration.

Pew argues that Muslims will be 10% by 2050. And Pew is not known to lie as far as I know. Of course they did not predict the refugee crisis.
Dusty · 2015-09-28 22:56:00 · #2697
(09-28-2015 09:09 PM)quino_16 Wrote:  Relevant

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The "Human Rights Activist" guy in this pic is Tim White, who is cheering the end of white people in the USA. It turns out he lives in a census track which is 0% black and 97% white:

Quote:ccording to the Assessor of Property for Davidson County TN, the anti-white propagandist agitator Tim Wise lives in a house worth $639,300. The neighborhood he lives in, in Census Tract 134, is 97% white and ZERO PERCENT BLACK.
fucksong · 2015-09-29 00:48:00 · #2698
Guys, it's not about Muslim/Christianity/White/Black/whatever. It's about money and power. We're all just pawns in the game.

Check it:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-10...ant-crisis
Zelcorpion · 2015-09-29 01:21:00 · #2699
(09-28-2015 03:35 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Guys, I need your help with some investigative journalism about the owners of Croatian media - to be precise, finding out who the up-the-chain owners of some organizations are.

I have been able to reach this conclusion so far and have added my remaining concerns in bold:

Quote:Note that all of our media are directly owned by one of these three foreign corporations:

- EPH - EuropaPress Holding (owned by Funke Mediengruppe) (who owns Funke Mediengruppe???)
- Central European Media Enterprises (owned by Time Warner) (which is then further owned by funds like Vanguard and banks like JP Morgan Chase - is there any further person or organization behind these, or the hole ends with them?)
- Styria Media Group AG (owned by Katholischer Medien Verein Privatstiftung - Catholic Media Association Private Foundation) (who owns the Katholischer Medien Verein privatstuftung???)

Any help would be much appreciated!

Often you can only partly find out the real ownership structure of companies. Sometimes especially when they are foundations - then you can cover it up well by transferring the control to other groups. There are trusts around the world which are completely secret - Royal British trusts that not only the royals have access too - anyone with massive wealth can do so.

Sometimes the real ownership is also cleverly hidden. During a time where it was less secret at the death of JP Morgan in 1913 everyone assumed that he owned most of his company and wealth. But to the utter surprise of everyone it turned out that he owned less than 30% of his company - the other part was owned by the Rothchilds - that was when they did not hide their real ownership structure as well as today. Keep in mind that JP Morgan back then was reputed to be the world's richest man.

Another point is the question of control vs ownership. Sometimes those two are separated through agreements. So essentially even if the Funke group is owned by a supposedly Catholic church foundation, then they may actually be administrated by Jesuit Freemasons like the current pope Francis. In that case you might expect a perfect globalist guidance that is on board with anything the money power wants. There are of course other groups within the church which do not tow the party line - like the Franciscans, but the current Jesuit pope only slyly took the name Francis knowing that it would endear him to the masses - meanwhile being of a different breed - he should have called himself Trojan.

As far as the Saudis and their behavior are concerned. Anyone in the hotel business can tell you that kids of wealthy Arabs are the worst in terms of behavior. They are never reprimanded when male and grow up with lack of discipline, ambition, resolve etc.

http://www.photius.com/rankings/national...ranks.html

Also the widespread practice of inbreeding & bad food (especially during pregnancy) does not help in terms of IQ.

Avg IQs:
Saudi Arabia 84
Quatar 78
Kuwait 86
Iraq 87
Syria 83

IQs are pliable to a degree, but only inter-generationally - so 3 generations of no inbreeding and careful nutrition and mental stimulation might raise it closer to 100, but for now those countries do not especially offer any greater economic nor scientific contribution to the world. Their best and brightest as in the example of Iran have been leaving anyway legally in the recent decades and that venue is still open - Europe shouldn't accept them en masse under any condition.
Glaucon · 2015-09-29 03:26:00 · #2700
There might be a hope for Germany after all. Merkel's approval is tanking, and a heart warming protest in Dresden:

German nationalists in Dresden declare "Germany for the Germans."

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