Quote:How do you all find the right balance between staying vigilant without becoming frustrated and nihilistic? I'm sure I'm not the only one here who struggles with this from time to time.

Stoicism:
http://www.returnofkings.com/60570/an-in...-epictetus
http://www.returnofkings.com/64452/the-p...-by-seneca

(09-20-2015 03:56 PM)Going strong Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 03:38 PM)Samseau Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 03:36 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 03:27 PM)Samseau Wrote:  So, here's the truth about the true migrant crisis you'll never see in our controlled media:

http://news.yahoo.com/thousands-pour-aus...12798.html

The first comment of the article:

Quote:All they are doing is bringing poverty, filth, disease, and a desire for easy pickings with them.
I have cousins in Sicily, outside Agrigento and by the ocean. They are the first ones seeing what's going on. They can tell you firsthand the destruction the illegals caused---breaking into cars, stealing them; breaking into homes and apartments--taking what they want, roughing up or beating to a pulp the residents. My cousin's husband has had 3 cars stolen---why? the invaders want to get to the top of the island to hop scotch to the EU mainland and work their way up----for the freebies. That's why they're there---to practice a scorched earth policy until they are taken care of. As my cousin told me, "Many of these invaders left homes and jobs because they want what others are getting----something for free. They also know they will take over the host countries---Europe will be no more." She added, "They destroyed our farm, the campagna! They burned our two barns, slaughtered the animals for the hell of it, and then stole the tractor and moved on. They are worse than locusts!" This is one woman's story of what's going on in Sicily----you don't hear that on the news because all is hidden to evoke sympathy for the invaders. As she said, "Where's the damn Mafia when you need them? Had they all not been in jail, dead or forced out of Sicily, they would have taken care of us. Instead we have a stupid pope, a stupid government, and a stupid EU! We are sealing our own doom because of our stupidity!"

Homes are already being invaded, not a peep from the media. This is a deliberate betrayal of the natives of Europe. Really sad to watch. Many political lessons to be learned.

- No guns = you're someone's bitch
- Socialist state = pacified and easily manipulated public
- Breakdown of family = brainwashed kids who grow into adults that will believe anything the state tells them
- Women vote = retarded decisions based on emotions that lead to everything listed above and more

On the forum we've surmised that the final plan of the immigration agenda was to destroy Europe through generational decline. This remains true, but it's possible the introduction of immigrants in such an abrupt way will allow them to now come up with a "solution" that involves war or some kind of martial law scenario.

Their general open immigration policies have been doing the job for the past few decades, so why jeopardize that plan to suddenly accelerate the process? They must have a near-term big objective they need to achieve, to create justification for something. If that's true, we'll find out within a year.

If anything, they've realized they've accumulated so much power they can speed up the process and no one will stop them.

Or, they feel a sense of urgency because they have spotted a threat to established order.

Is this threat Trump? Marine Le Pen? Orban, Putin? Or generally speaking, the rise of nationalistic/protest movements and political parties?

Do they feel that European natives have to be brought down and done with, now, because they have been told by their intelligence services that a majority of under-25 native Europeans would vote for the alt-Right?


Something, someone, must be frightening the leftists in power, for them to abandon all caution, drop their masks, and openly fuck with us natives.

Because this is the most surprising aspect of all:

90% of European governments have decided to openly go against the obvious interests of their native people ... at the same time when they also lose control of the narrative... So, they are fighting us the people bare-faced, defiantly, openly. Why?

Other option: they consider that European natives have become so weak and pussified, that there's no need anymore to put gloves on to fuck with us? : They think we can do nothing to stop them at this point, and therefore, the "elites" play their hands on the table, daring us to react?...

A rising anger across the middle class is enough to spook them. They overestimated the power of PC Liberal policies. Do not get me wrong, they have converted more than they could have ever hoped for but there is a counter result of this as well. Basically, they converted all the weak people who would never imagine physically fighting for something they believe in. Those people mentally and culturally spit in the eye of every trait and archetype that built this society. The remaining neutrals with a preference for traditional values can't be silent anymore. And when the neutrals go on the attack, the converts will get railroaded. Pride will always trump sympathy.

Its the same model Obama uses when he fast tracks a bill. Trying to sneak it by the neutral base that keeps society running.

I do not know what will happen but I imagine its going to get ugly.

Two questions:

So what sparked this most recent spur? The Syrian war has been going on for a while and all of a sudden there's a flood of immigrants. Not to mention, some of them aren't arab as well.

Why the hell would the EU nations be ok with this? What's in it for them?

^ The nations are largely not okay with it. The leaders are. And the EU is.

(09-20-2015 08:37 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  ^ The nations are largely not okay with it. The leaders are. And the EU is.

Why would the leaders and EU be ok with it? I don't see much benefit to it. Hell, didn't the government of the Netherlands a few years ago acknowledge the failure of their immigration policies?

(09-20-2015 08:39 PM)nek Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 08:37 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  ^ The nations are largely not okay with it. The leaders are. And the EU is.

Why would the leaders and EU be ok with it? I don't see much benefit to it. Hell, didn't the government of the Netherlands a few years ago acknowledge the failure of their immigration policies?

I don't think the Netherlands is going through with it. Lots of countries are resisting, some more than others.

And really, who knows what the leaders think. Part of me is "NWO!" (obviously it's a bit more developed than that but I am too lazy to type much more) and the other part of me is "nah, they are just retarded."

(09-20-2015 08:39 PM)nek Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 08:37 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  ^ The nations are largely not okay with it. The leaders are. And the EU is.

Why would the leaders and EU be ok with it? I don't see much benefit to it. Hell, didn't the government of the Netherlands a few years ago acknowledge the failure of their immigration policies?

There are countless examples in human history where politicians willfully throw their own countries under the bus, all for the benefit of a very small ruling elite which doesn't necessarily live in the same country.

(09-20-2015 09:52 PM)Caveman Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 08:39 PM)nek Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 08:37 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  ^ The nations are largely not okay with it. The leaders are. And the EU is.

Why would the leaders and EU be ok with it? I don't see much benefit to it. Hell, didn't the government of the Netherlands a few years ago acknowledge the failure of their immigration policies?

There are countless examples in human history where politicians willfully throw their own countries under the bus, all for the benefit of a very small ruling elite which doesn't necessarily live in the same country.

How would this situation benefit even a very small ruling elite?

Varg weighs in.

Good video on the migrant crisis.

(09-20-2015 04:49 PM)Lizard King Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 03:56 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Why?

Other option: they consider that European natives have become so weak and pussified, that there's no need anymore to put gloves on to fuck with us? : They think we can do nothing to stop them at this point, and therefore, the "elites" play their hands on the table, daring us to react?...

To maintain power/control.

A divided society is easier to control than a unified society of nationalists.

I like this theory.

"Market crash" is coming ( all those things are fake, planned by the .001% to grab even MORE resources during the "crisis."

Since the last one was only 6 years ago, and internet info spreads faster, it will be harder to conceal the "bailouts" ( handouts to the .001%)

So they need a scapegoat in place as the middle class gets further hollowed out.

They're importing scapegoats?

I think all this left-right thinking is falling into "divide and conquer" illusion.

A much more accurate bifurcation based on "cui bono" of MATH and MONEY-- not rhetoric --is that there is the .001% who invisibly control through marketing and media and RENT the other 99.99%, who think they are clever to be on the "left" or "right".

Be aware four of the ten largest percentage drop days in the Dow were in October, in 1929 and 1987.

(09-20-2015 03:47 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  My God, the Greeks not only voted for Tsipras again, but did it in even bigger numbers than before!



No sympathy left. They deserve everything that's coming to them.

Tsipras signed up to an even more severe memorandum than New Democracy and he declared that the sea has no borders as he chartered more ferries to bring migrants to mainland Europe.

Only for his vote to increase.

Remember it was democracy that freed Barabbas.

The only thing I can do about Greece:

(09-20-2015 05:29 PM)Nineteen84 Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 05:22 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  NYT Commenters Really Hate NYT Editorial About How the Camp of the Saints Is Good for the Economy

http://www.unz.com/isteve/nyt-commenters...an-economy

Quote:Does the NYT Editorial Board EVER read their own readers’ comments, especially regarding immigration and migration?

Do they care that these sorts of open borders, naive editorials are infuriating to many liberal and left readers?

And why does the NYT print cropped, hand-picked, and outright agitprop photos trying to convince the unwary that most of these are middle class families when in fact the overwhelming majority seem to be young men of military age?

Seriously, I am wondering if there is a strategy here or if the NYT editors just don’t care, or just are this out of touch with their readers.

Talking about Camp of Saints - anyone seen this: 'The March' by the BBC (1990)?

Thanks. Will watch later. The BBC has an uncanny habit of making dystopian docu-dramas that seem to come to pass.

(09-20-2015 05:38 PM)iop890 Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 05:03 PM)UncleSam Wrote:  *cough*

Just kill me.

Only the dead can know peace from this faggotry.

This is the very sly and calculated court castrato who is sowing seeds of doubt within the minds of courtiers regarding the righteousness and wisdom of resisting the coming invasion against the city walls.

(09-20-2015 07:13 PM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 06:53 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ This is just a big shitball rolling downhill.

I don't even like visiting this thread anymore.

I have to take a break from this stuff too from time to time. The media just feeds you a non-stop barrage of lies and negativity and it just wears you down mentally and emotionally.

How do you all find the right balance between staying vigilant without becoming frustrated and nihilistic? I'm sure I'm not the only one here who struggles with this from time to time.

Several times this past week I checked this thread at work and it pissed me off so much it basically ruined my whole morning.

I don't want to be some fool who sticks his head in the sand and pretends everything is okay but it's not healthy to be pissed all the time either.

I dunno. I'm ranting...maybe I should just go the gym or something.

Sooner or later, this thread or an off-shoot thereof needs to see if neo-masculinity can be applied to men's life to help them get through an era which is going to see élites use the demographics of the world against them.

The Swedish bodybuilder a few pages back in this thread used valid points.

Like I said before, the real enemies are the self-loathing liberals who control the media and run the government.

I found a list of quotes from prominent German politicians, which explicitly shows their animosity and hatred towards German and European civilization. Furthermore, it shows the general methods they are using in destroying German culture and the joy they get from seeing it die. Unfortunately, the list doesn't exactly show when and where these politicians stated these quotes. However, knowing that the former PM of Sweden said that Sweden belongs to the immigrants, it wouldn't surprise me that the German politicians in question actually hate Germany and want to destroy it.

Here is the list:

Quote:“People need to say good-bye to the illusion that Germany belongs to the Germans.” – Akkaya Cigdem, Vice director of the “Centre for Turkey Studies” in German newspaper WAZ.

It’s not about justice or injustice in the immigration debate, its all about the repression of the German population in this country.” – Federal executive board of the Green Party, Munich.

“We, the Green Party, must make sure, to rack up as many foreigners as possible into Germany… when they are in Germany, we must fight for their right to vote. When we achieved this, we will have the percentage of votes that we need to change this republic.” – Daniel Cohn-Bendit, has a seat in the EU- parliament for the Green Party.

“The German nation is nothing positive for me by any means. I would even combat it politically.” – Franziska Drohsel, former leader of the youth organization of the German Socialist Party SPD

“Germany is a problem because the Germans are more gifted, more disciplined and eagerer then the rest of Europe. This will always end up in “inequalities”. But counter measures can be taken by pulling out as much money as possible out of Germany. It can be radically wasted for whatever. The main point is that Germans don’t have it. And so the world is saved.” – Joschka Fischer, 1999, former foreign minister of Germany.

“Germany has to be enclosed from outside, and by the immigration, mixed up from inside, virtually diluted.”

“It may surprise you but i’m a traitor of my country. I love and support the death of our nation.” – Christin Lochner, Politician of the German Extreme Left Party “Die Linke”

“In the year of 2100, there will be 35 million Turks in Germany. The population of the Germans will be around 20 million. That what Kamuni Sultan Suleyman began with the occupation of Vienna in the year of 1529, are we going to finish with out powerful men and our healthy women.” – Vural Oger, EU-Parliamentarian for the SPD, the German socialist party.

“The German offspring is called Mustafa,Giovanni and Ali now!” – Cem Ozdemir, federal chairman of the Green Party at the party congress in Bonn, 1998

“At national day of the Germans, the streets are drowning in a sea full of red Turkish flags and a few black-red-gold flags.” Claudia Roth, Vice federal chairman of the Green Party at “Tag det Deutschen Einheit”

“Turkey is a second home for me, i do politics for Turkey in 20 years.” – In an interview with the SPIEGEL

“Germany is vanishing more and more by every day. And i find this just fantastic.”

“I have never sung the German national anthem. And i will never do it, not even as a minister.” – Jurgen Tritten, Green party.

I know that some Germans posted here on this thread. Is any of this true? Can you guys provide solid proof that these politicians said this? If not, can you guys show that the German politicians in question made political decisions along the lines of thought shown in the quotes they made?

Unfortunately, I can't find much information about these politicians since I don't know German.

Is Tspiras allowing migrants specifically to spite Germany?

Because... he stole that idea from /pol/

Also: German Socialist Party SPD

It's called the Social Democratic Party of Germany in case anyone gets confused searching for it.

(09-21-2015 12:04 AM)N°6 Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 07:13 PM)NovaVirtu Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 06:53 PM)Travesty Wrote:  ^ This is just a big shitball rolling downhill.

I don't even like visiting this thread anymore.

I have to take a break from this stuff too from time to time. The media just feeds you a non-stop barrage of lies and negativity and it just wears you down mentally and emotionally.

How do you all find the right balance between staying vigilant without becoming frustrated and nihilistic? I'm sure I'm not the only one here who struggles with this from time to time.

Several times this past week I checked this thread at work and it pissed me off so much it basically ruined my whole morning.

I don't want to be some fool who sticks his head in the sand and pretends everything is okay but it's not healthy to be pissed all the time either.

I dunno. I'm ranting...maybe I should just go the gym or something.

Sooner or later, this thread or an off-shoot thereof needs to see if neo-masculinity can be applied to men's life to help them get through an era which is going to see élites use the demographics of the world against them.

Indeed. Today, the European derived people are still massively strong. Simply replacing the current alien elite with an indiginous, non hostile one would change everything overnight. We'd basically be back to ruling the world, in so many words. So the élites have no choice but to slowly and painstakingly direct us in committing gradual suicide, because certainly no outside party would have a chance in hell in a direct action against us.

But in the future, after some more years of elite assisted self harm, we will weaken enough to become easier prey. At that point self suicide will be eschewed in favor of the far more satisfying violence at the hands of third parties. At that point, I'm not sure that there will be an easy way to insulate yourself from the fate of your people. It doesn't matter if you have a stash of gold and live on some exotic island. If your civilization has been destroyed and your people murdered or enslaved, there is nothing backing you up and preventing your hosts from simply appropriating "your" possessions. That's why my stance is basically fuck these stupid white niggas, but just let me live most of my life and be an old dude watching with zero at stake by the time of the final reckoning.

http://www.eurocanadian.ca/2015/09/chart...ities.html

United States has no cities with >90% white population.

Canada has two. France also has none.

I have read multiple times by authors who are the real administrative elite that living standards for the West are going to fall dramatically. The process would be accelerated from 2015 on and would reach dramatic levels by 2030-40.

By the way - the US is to go down the same route.

I always wondered how they are going to achieve that so fast.

There are now several triggers:

+ migrant inflow of 500.000 to 1.000.000 per year - this will cause chaos, unemployment, destruction, violence & higher taxes/decreased social expenditure
+ green agenda - carbon taxes being used to tax the bejezus out of any consumption - part of it will be used to pay for migrants
+ TPP and other "trade unions" will suck out even more jobs out of Western economies as China/US/EU becomes one happy corporate slave labor zone

As far as the elite being secure in their ability to retain power. Yes - they own the entire media, all parties, the entire banking field - central banks and private banks, most major corporations and have control over the military and the police.

Keep in mind that all European countries and the US have massive military grade SWAT teams. Even smaller towns within the EU have tank-like equipment. Europe could easily defend itself if given the orders. Do not underestimate the European military and police forces. Most of the guys serving in Germany/Austria/France are anti-immigration and vote quite right. They would have no qualms at mowing down violent migrants with machine gun fire.

The "crisis" would be over quickly if the elite gives the right orders. Cops won't hold back and female cops will be making coffee in the barracks while men mop up things.

But I don't expect anything like that to happen. It seems that they will keep on lying, suppressing stories about rape and violence as long as possible. They will continue to let in millions per year until the problems become so massive that they roll out the military and police forces with orders to shoot.

That however may take years. The far right parties in most countries except Eastern Europe won't get more than 30-40% and since all others will oppose them, they won't be able to rule.

I have said it a few times, but I believe that the movie Looper correctly showed the future of most US & EU cities:



Of course prosperous mega-cities like City of London/Paris/New York Manhattan will be excluded from the mayhem and poverty.

That's when the point of city-states will come in. Within countries some cities will be bought off by wealthy individuals/corporations and will quasi secede from the state with their own security force and most people incl. the migrant hordes won't have access to it. I have read it in elite texts that they "expect" it to happen from the year 2035-2055 on.

Shanghai will be the new New York then:



This is not surprising, since they get the world's manufacturing capacity transferred to them.

What to do?

Move up or move away to saner countries. Don't expect the old economic model of an average job to shield yourself from all of this.

And the media lies continue:



Just saw that newspaper lying in the trash. (I don't read mainstream press.) "The Arab - our brother." And this is the Polish press with a population opposing this madness by a rate of 80%+.

I was just talking with Bojangles 2 days ago about this. We both having migrant background and both being opposed to it all - both being happy for living in Poland now which is far removed from the craziness. When the madness comes over I plan to move further East. The other way is to move up financially, but you need 10-20 mio. $ for that, so that you don't have to deal with the rabble.

(09-21-2015 02:40 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  I was just talking with Bojangles 2 days ago about this. We both having migrant background and both being opposed to it all - both being happy for living in Poland now which is far removed from the craziness. When the madness comes over I plan to move further East. The other way is to move up financially, but you need 10-20 mio. $ for that, so that you don't have to deal with the rabble.

My thoughts exactly. We should hustle like crazy as long as we can because the good times in the west are ending fast. When it is over I am moving to Asia. We have maybe 10-15 years top.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...09716.html

First they flood us with illegal muslim regugees, now they put Saudi Arabia on the UN council for human rights.

The news from a French source added that the decision has been made as early as June but has been kept secret for unknown reasons.

Impeccable timing and preparation. Well played Islam, well played

EDIT: for a long time I read post who talk about the "elites" and I was like: what "elites"? The elites are fighting amongst themselves as much as feminists. There is hardly one single unifying "invisible hand" elites that decide the fate of the world. Its not like they all meet annually at a banquet in Paris/Dubai to decide how to fuck us up while sipping top whiskey.

But more and more Im seeing things falling into places. I dont know how it come to this but maybe you guys (and C Wrights Mills) are right all along. From some high-sec skyscrapers the elites are watching Europe burn and chuckle.

(09-21-2015 04:24 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...09716.html

First they flood us with illegal muslim regugees, now they put Saudi Arabia on the council for human rights.

The news from a French source added that the decision has been made as early as June but has been kept secret for unknown reasons.

Impeccable timing and preparation. Well played Islam, well played

Next the Saudi's will write a book "How to be a gentleman"

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Saudi Arabia?

Human Rights?

(this guy seems uncannily appropriate for this gif)