Post: #1

Background about me, 25 years old, just graduated with a shitty liberal arts degree from a reputable university.

Yesterday I was thinking about how I could have a respectable job while travelling, and becoming a pilot suddenly came to my mind. I've always had a thing for aviation since I was a kid, definitely was fascinated about planes. I would love to fly for an airline in SEA and Middle East. It would be such a DHV lifestyle, you'll constantly be surrounded by hot flight attendants. I'm willing to put a lot of work, I know that you have to accumulate a lot of flight hours to break into a decent airline. I'm willing to pay my dues. I don't mind flying for a 2nd, or even a 3rd rate airline in Asia.

I was wondering whether its too late for me to break into this profession? I definitely don't see myself as working in your typical office setting . 3rd world countries + Flying + Flight attendands + Decent salary = Ultimate manosphere job, well at least for me. Would love to share thoughts with other RVF'ers who want to break into this profession, maybe we can exchange some ideas.


Just had a discussion with my dad about this, he's willing to sponsor me.

Post: #2

My dad is a captain for a major airline. Let me tell you this, he didn't commit to making it a career until he was in his early thirties. He started as an Air Force reservist, then as a bush pilot, then stopped flying for several years, and later went back to aviation at a small regional airline and worked his way up from there. Also, a friend of my dad worked as an accountant after college, he soon realized he didn't want to stare at spreadsheets for 20 years so he pursued aviation as well and succeeded. It's not too late at all.

Lots of guys take jobs at 3rd world airlines. It one way to build up your hours. I have a friend who's married to a pilot at a regional, but it's only part-time and in the meantime he's a motorcycle mechanic. So you definitely have to start small and make peanuts.

There is an airline pilot on this board that has a formal career data sheet on aviation

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Post: #3

A guy I know trained to be and is now a pilot in his late 20s. Older than you definitely.

Do it if you want to.

Post: #4

(09-20-2015 12:33 PM)Laurifer Wrote:  My dad is a captain for a major airline. Let me tell you this, he didn't commit to making it a career until he was in his early thirties. He started as an Air Force reservist, then as a bush pilot, then stopped flying for several years, and later went back to aviation at a small regional airline and worked his way up from there. Also, a friend of my dad worked as an accountant after college, he soon realized he didn't want to stare at spreadsheets for 20 years so he pursued aviation as well and succeeded. It's not too late at all.

Lots of guys take jobs at 3rd world airlines. It one way to build up your hours. I have a friend who's married to a pilot at a regional, but it's only part-time and in the meantime he's a motorcycle mechanic. So you definitely have to start small and make peanuts.

There is an airline pilot on this board that has a formal career data sheet on aviation

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Thanks for the reply. I read this datasheet, has very decent info in it indeed. I don't mind flying for 3rd rate airlines at all, from what I can see its impossible to break into a first rate airline without accumulating flight hours unless you graduate from their cadet school.

Post: #5

(09-20-2015 05:50 AM)Turkish Republican Wrote:  I would love to fly for an airline in SEA and Middle East. It would be such a DHV lifestyle, you'll constantly be surrounded by hot flight attendants.

You and everyone else.

I was in the reserves, and got my PPL through the cadet program here in in Canada, so had a lot of military/flying friends who wanted to be a pilot. A few got sweet gigs after many years, and a few got burnt out trying to make it happen and left the industry.

The guys who made it literally had to do anything and everything to get hours. Instructing was a big one, but pay is crap, and even then you might not get many hours if there aren't many students. Flying bush planes in the middle of nowhere for years, one guy then progressed to flying cargo Dash 8's down in Brazil for not a lot of money. My friend who did the best of it is around 30 now, and flying business jets back and forth to Europe, still with the long term goal of getting into a major airline, but its been 13 years of grinding it out since he first got his license.

Hands down the best way to do it in Canada is via the military. Get your training and hours paid for, have a stable job with decent pay the whole time, then leave with a bunch of hours. When I last checked it was 2-3 years training, and then a commitment for 7 years after. Now some people don't want to give up their freedom for 10 years, but well nothing is free...

Post: #6

(09-20-2015 02:53 PM)Seadog Wrote:  

(09-20-2015 05:50 AM)Turkish Republican Wrote:  I would love to fly for an airline in SEA and Middle East. It would be such a DHV lifestyle, you'll constantly be surrounded by hot flight attendants.

You and everyone else.

I was in the reserves, and got my PPL through the cadet program here in in Canada, so had a lot of military/flying friends who wanted to be a pilot. A few got sweet gigs after many years, and a few got burnt out trying to make it happen and left the industry.

The guys who made it literally had to do anything and everything to get hours. Instructing was a big one, but pay is crap, and even then you might not get many hours if there aren't many students. Flying bush planes in the middle of nowhere for years, one guy then progressed to flying cargo Dash 8's down in Brazil for not a lot of money. My friend who did the best of it is around 30 now, and flying business jets back and forth to Europe, still with the long term goal of getting into a major airline, but its been 13 years of grinding it out since he first got his license.

Hands down the best way to do it in Canada is via the military. Get your training and hours paid for, have a stable job with decent pay the whole time, then leave with a bunch of hours. When I last checked it was 2-3 years training, and then a commitment for 7 years after. Now some people don't want to give up their freedom for 10 years, but well nothing is free...

Worst case scenario I could probably get a gig in Turkish Airlines after accumulating the necessary flight hours because there is a shortage of Turkish pilots in Turkey and my family is well connected. Until then I'm willing to fly for 2nd rate airlines, I'd be happy to fly a dash in Brazil for example.

Post: #7

I wouldn't bank on the flight attendants being hot. It's not the 50s anymore. Most flights I've been on had flaming queers with heavy lisps.

Post: #8

(09-20-2015 03:59 PM)wi30 Wrote:  I wouldn't bank on the flight attendants being hot. It's not the 50s anymore. Most flights I've been on had flaming queers with heavy lisps.

Yes It's like that here in the States. But F/A's in Turkey and most of Asia are definitely way above average in terms of looks when compared with the population in the said country.

Post: #9

Solid point. I say go for it. If it doesn't work out, at least you'll have a hell of a story to tell your buddies back home.

Post: #10

It's not what it used to be , you are almost having to buy your seat, training is expensive , type rating is expensive ! Working conditions are rubbish , airlines treat you like poo.
My mates in the military hate it and everyone is looking to leave.
My mates who fly the big airliners, 737-800 - 777 hate it and are looking to move airlines and or careers.

Get a good job and fly for fun ! That's what I did and I now own a small ex military jet !