So when you spoke months ago about finding weapons or a survival pack because of the Swedish situation, how safe do you feel now in comparison?

Damn.

If he tried that in the US he would have been shot by the police and no judge would let him out. The black lives matter faggots might have gotten pissed, but no one would have cared.

As insane as it is here, the neurosis in Europe is far worse.

Hungarians welcoming the invaders arriving from Croatia:

Hungarians have Humvees with mounted guns on the other side. Reinforcements arriving. @Channel4News



tweet:
https://twitter.com/millerC4/status/6448...wsrc%5Etfw

(09-18-2015 08:25 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  There was (a proposal of) a bill in France, stating that employers are not allowed to hire foreigners if there are French people of the same skills.

Such a law already exists, in... South Africa. It is forbidden by law to hire a White person (even of South-African citizenship), unless the employer can prove that no Black people in the country can do the job.

So, what is allowed and hailed as "good, progressive" by SJWs in South Africa, is prohibited and "fascist" in France?? Ethnic preference: good if Black people benefit, bad if White people benefit, from it?

Anyway, Mikado and Dalaran, what exactly are you afraid of? You perfectly know that French people, FN included, are not racist against legal immigrants. By the way, if you are Asian, please don't tell me you met White French people being racist against you... No (native) French people are racist against Asians.

If and when the FN or even Les Republicains get to the power, sanity will be restored, illegal migrants sent back to Africa, and peace will settle on our cities. Legal migrants and tourists will be much welcome, society as a whole having been pacified by good, sound political measures...

(edit: if you have time, read my post on the previous page: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50253...pid1113873 , to understand what kind of people we are letting into Europe at the moment. You'll see, it illustrates the absolute weakness of our Western societies, and the huge sexual threat posed by young, poor, despaired migrants from backwards, forgotten lands )

(09-18-2015 07:56 AM)mikado Wrote:  This is the program of the Front National about immigration (taken from their webpage)

– Legal immigration going in 5 years from 200 000 people entering every year (supposedly) to 10 000 (a factor cut of 20) (This is your answer, Samseau).

– Suppression of the family reunification. Basically you can't have your family come to France to be with you, even though you are working here.

– Drastically reducing the number of asylum seekers admitted to stay in France

– Suppressing Schengen. France will take back the control of its borders.

– Reducing the maximal length of residence permit from 10 to 3 years with a strict control of the conditions to get it. (Isn't this way too drastic, Samseau?)

– Renegociating the European Convention on Human Rights

– Removing the jus solis. Double nationality not allowed, except when it's the nationality of another european country.

– Kicking out every person who enters or stays illegally on the french soil. No medical help for clandestine immigrants.

– Making it forbidden by the law to legalize people who are already clandestine.

– Forbiding every single manifestation of clandestines, or in favor of clandestines.

– Anti-French racism will be considered as an aggravated circumstance in every legal case.

– Kicking out every person recognized guilty by the law, and have her serve time in his/her country of origin.

– Application of national priority. When the skills are equal, give the job to french citizens. When renting a flat, house, etc, if the social situation is the same, give it to french people first (really?????). No welfare at all for families who don't have at least one parent who is French

– Creating a minister of the Interior, of Immigration and Secularism. It will give every trimester numbers and stats about how many residence permits were issued, naturalizations granted, and expulsions done.

– Cooperate with African and developing countries only if they agree to do their share about migrations flux and deportations to the home country.

– Ban communautarism and assimilate through school first. Add to the constitution "France does not recognize any community".



While I do agree about the illegal immigration, I think it's way too harsh for legal immigrants.

The problem is immigration. The distinction between legal and illegal is a red herring and completely irrelevant. The only two things that matter is how many people are coming, and from where. 200k illegal polish immigrants is better than 200k legal Indian immigrants is better than 200k legal Muslim immigrants. No immigrants at all of course being the best scenario of all.

Also, everything else being equal, the government of FRANCE should of course give priority to FRENCH citizens over foreignera. Could anything possibly be more obvious than that?

I am in Lviv at the moment, so didn't have a chance to read it, but apparently in 40 newspapers around the country (Poland) Office of Foreigners provided a special additional short-newspaper regarding immigrants. Its heavily pushed as an only true and neutral info regarding whole situation in today's media.

Unfortunately it reminded me how many Chechens we brought during last 10 years (quite surprisengly it was right wing government who was heavily responsible for it), instead of making more for re-locating people with polish heritage still living in deep former USSR territory. This is a black card of basically all our governments during last 26 years.

Even refugees/immigrants from Donetsk/Lugansk/etc would be so much better choice, damm it...

(09-18-2015 08:26 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Meanwhile in France, an Erythrean migrant (infected with AIDS and tuberculosis) living (free of charge) in a "refugees center", has just sexually assaulted a 10 years-old girl, then tried to rape the SJW director of the refugees-center.

He got taken into custody, to the police station of Saint-Pol-Sur-Mer, with 8 policemen having to restrain him. He spit on a policewoman, who currently is getting medically checked for tuberculosis and stuff...

He then got freed, after his standard 48 hours of police jail, by a SJW judge!

As soon as he got freed, what did he fucking do?? He came back to the refugee center and tried to rape the... vice-director of the center...

He got arrested again, by ten French policemen. Another judge has been assigned to the case...

So, this is incredible, isn't it?

This story is crazy - absolutely utterly unbelievable unless you know the big plan for all of it.

I guess the elite are looking forward to creating zone-like cities and areas. Safe and wealthy zones where police presence deters anything and then the rest of the country which is up for grabs and you need a little combat team to accompany your daughter to school - multiculturalism at it's best. Too bad it will be too late to reverse it then.





It's in German, but I find the discussion funny. Everyone there is taking crazy pills instead of Hungarian minister they invited on the show.

He says one time that he thinks it's fine if Germany has decided to "change" and that all the media and politicians are working hard to do so - hehe. But he would just like to reserve the right of other member countries to abstain from that change and remain the old nation state with a more or less identical population. He also calls it as a right to remain not as "advanced" as the Western societies - heh.

Of course they accuse him of not being a good European, of not being a good Christian, of having no heart, of not understanding why he doesn't want more African Muslims in his country. (And these are not Mikado-like Muslims since Hungarians do have a small long-term Muslim population living there, but they are likely against this madness too.)

The Hungarian minister is the only one who talks like a mentally sound human being.

I hate to say it, Dalaran, but most of these are reasonable.

(09-18-2015 08:25 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Dont be surprised guys, in France even right wings / redpill know Le Pen to be nut and fascist about the "purity of the French race" Kinda ironic because of how unpure it has become lately...

On an intellectual basis, I do not understand where you see "irony" - let's make an allegory: if someone has become fat, would it be "ironic" to put him on a diet and exercise regime, because of how fat he has become lately? I mean, you can make the point "it's too far gone, so let's not go in this direction", but still, attempts at recovering what can be recovered are not "ironic". This is just a completely wrong use for a very clearly defined word.

DELETE

(09-18-2015 08:33 AM)Libertas Wrote:  If he tried that in the US he would have been shot by the police and no judge would let him out. The black lives matter faggots might have gotten pissed, but no one would have cared.

I... highly doubt that. Did they not defend mike brown? Did an innocent South Asian store owner not have his business burned to the ground? Black lives matter would be causing the same anti-social stir regardless of the circumstances as we've seen. Ambiguity is a strong correlation with their outcry, but not the threshold. It's only something they've used to play up favor, instill fear and posture on morality.

They'd say the rape accusations were false.

(09-18-2015 08:36 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  Hungarians welcoming the invaders arriving from Croatia:

Hungarians have Humvees with mounted guns on the other side. Reinforcements arriving. @Channel4News



tweet:
https://twitter.com/millerC4/status/6448...wsrc%5Etfw

Ok now this the escalation that may really heat things up. What's the likelihood of the migrants testing their resolve?

(09-18-2015 08:36 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  Hungarians welcoming the invaders arriving from Croatia:

Hungarians have Humvees with mounted guns on the other side. Reinforcements arriving. @Channel4News



tweet:
https://twitter.com/millerC4/status/6448...wsrc%5Etfw

(09-18-2015 08:55 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  



It's in German, but I find the discussion funny. Everyone there is taking crazy pills instead of Hungarian minister they invited on the show.

He says one time that he thinks it's fine if Germany has decided to "change" and that all the media and politicians are working hard to do so - hehe. But he would just like to reserve the right of other member countries to abstain from that change and remain the old nation state with a more or less identical population. He also calls it as a right to remain not as "advanced" as the Western societies - heh.

Of course they accuse him of not being a good European, of not being a good Christian, of having no heart, of not understanding why he doesn't want more African Muslims in his country. (And these are not Mikado-like Muslims since Hungarians do have a small long-term Muslim population living there, but they are likely against this madness too.)

The Hungarian minister is the only one who talks like a mentally sound human being.

Oh yeah, these well balanced "talk shows" on german public TV.

When it comes to the topic of "refugees" they're always going to invite one or two "punching bags" with the other guests celebrating the official narrative, including the host (a woman most of the time) who is - in theory - supposed to be neutral.

Usually they present a poster refugee who managed to make a living on his own somehow. They're doing this to subconsciously convice you that basically all refugees are like that. I remember in one show there was this well educated former Gypsie woman who managed to become a lawyer. Yes, they even went that far, but I think the reputation of these people is that far damaged even public indoctrination TV can't save them anymore.

I avoid these public TV channels like a plague these days and when I do it feels like being in a parallel universe. The best thing I can do is to convince family members to skip them most of the time and I did a pretty good job so far. Most of them are fed up with this constant propaganda anyways.

Some more pictures from Croatia-Hungary border's Hungarian side:

They are clearly playing the intimidation card. Nothing screams you are not welcome here more than guns.

Quote:I hate to say it, Dalaran, but most of these are reasonable.

Of course in the curernt context even I would think its reasonable. Wait until you can no longer just hop to France to do some casual gaming weekend anymore. Or you are French and you want to bring your Polish sweetheart to the country. The FN has clear plan to tighten all laws on citizenship through marriage.

My point is, you can easily solve the immigration issue without coming down hard on legal immigrants.

(09-18-2015 09:01 AM)Sgt Wrote:  

(09-18-2015 08:25 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Dont be surprised guys, in France even right wings / redpill know Le Pen to be nut and fascist about the "purity of the French race" Kinda ironic because of how unpure it has become lately...

On an intellectual basis, I do not understand where you see "irony" - let's make an allegory: if someone has become fat, would it be "ironic" to put him on a diet and exercise regime, because of how fat he has become lately? I mean, you can make the point "it's too far gone, so let's not go in this direction", but still, attempts at recovering what can be recovered are not "ironic". This is just a completely wrong use for a very clearly defined word.

Your comparison makes no sense. A fat girl can totally reverse her situation by giving some attention to her body. Its not like the French race can just purify itself by stop marrying foreigners. The French has already become a very mixed people. I personally know 1 pureblood French, my 90s old host mother who was also a countess according to the old nobility. Even her grandchildren married Asians and Indians. Many Indians, blacks and Asians here are 3rd generation French. What is the « pure French race » ? I can’t give you an estimate since stupid leftists forbid any discussion/data on race, but according to wiki, only 80% of newborns have both French parents (without considering if one or both is of a different ethnicity than white French)

Quote:Anyway, Mikado and Dalaran, what exactly are you afraid of? You perfectly know that French people, FN included, are not racist against legal immigrants. By the way, if you are Asian, please don't tell me you met White French people being racist against you... No (native) French people are racist against Asians.

You have to distinguish between racism as a sentiment and racism as restriction on policies (and oh yes, you didn’t have French girls telling you « your accent is so funny » or « hey there’s a random asian I know, he has the same ear as you ») It’s not like the FN is gonna put in a law saying : this rule applies to every immigrants except Asians…

Here’s the thing : legal immigration laws are already hard on legal immigrants (we pay more taxes, companies pay more taxes if they hire us, etc.) but its still fair and I dont mind it since I chose to stay. But its extremely lenient when it comes to illegal immigrant… What the FN proposes just make it incredibly hard for foreigners who can bring value to this country. Oh sure, I’ll gladly leave, but I doubt a mass exodus of people like me or Mikado would do anything good.

All that hypothesizing aside, no one in France would seriously believe that all those policies will be implemented. French sluts definitely love ethnic dicks. But hey, who knows? If Charles Martel knew we would be opening doors to Muslims en masse and give them advantages over French, he would have thrown down his arms "fuck this shit let Europe burns" at the Battle of Tours and let the Caliphate take over.

Quote:Meanwhile in France, an Erythrean migrant (infected with AIDS and tuberculosis) living (free of charge) in a "refugees center", has just sexually assaulted a 10 years-old girl, then tried to rape the SJW director of the refugees-center. Dodgy

He got taken into custody, to the police station of Saint-Pol-Sur-Mer, with 8 policemen having to restrain him. Exclamation He spit on a policewoman, who currently is getting medically checked for tuberculosis and stuff...

He then got freed, after his standard 48 hours of police jail, by a SJW judge! Angry

As soon as he got freed, what did he fucking do?? He came back to the refugee center and tried to rape the... vice-director of the center... Angry

He got arrested again, by ten French policemen. Another judge has been assigned to the case...

So, this is incredible, isn't it? Angry

Havent followed the news but Jesus....

So now they are bringing in alien beast to rape and pillage their very own women, and still they do nothing? No reaction from the masses? No vigilantes group? Seriously?

While I dont like feminists or SJW the ideas of aliens coming in and just raping our women and then go free its just.....

(09-18-2015 08:55 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

Damn I swear I actually feel repulsion on a physical level when I hear these traitors talk. "Why won't you take in more muslims?" "What's your problem with muslims?" "How many muslims do you have? Just a few thousand? That needs to change!!" This is unreal. Now he said Hungary is going to accept quotas if it is decided so in the EU. The last stronghold is falling. My last hope is for them to leave the EU before it comes to that. Hopefully other countries will follow and this madness of oppression will come to an end. Man I feel sick after this.

Also... THIS motherfucker. What the hell, man. 10/10 cuck confirmed.
   

Hungary and Orban will catch a lot of flack in the short-term, but years from now other countries will wish they'd have done the same.

The greatest danger to Europe would be allowing one or two million to enter as refugees, then closing the borders. Waiting for the next conflict to flare up in 10-20 years, then allowing another one or two million to stay. There's a reason a snake slowly squeezes its prey to death rather than gobbling it up in one bite.

My fear is that EU globalists have already won by doing this; guest workers were the first wave, general multiculturalism-driven immigrants were the second wave, and now "refugees" are the third wave. With each successive wave, native Europeans shrink as a percentage of the overall population.

(09-18-2015 09:43 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

(09-18-2015 09:01 AM)Sgt Wrote:  

(09-18-2015 08:25 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Dont be surprised guys, in France even right wings / redpill know Le Pen to be nut and fascist about the "purity of the French race" Kinda ironic because of how unpure it has become lately...

On an intellectual basis, I do not understand where you see "irony" - let's make an allegory: if someone has become fat, would it be "ironic" to put him on a diet and exercise regime, because of how fat he has become lately? I mean, you can make the point "it's too far gone, so let's not go in this direction", but still, attempts at recovering what can be recovered are not "ironic". This is just a completely wrong use for a very clearly defined word.

Your comparison makes no sense. A fat girl can totally reverse her situation by giving some attention to her body. Its not like the French race can just purify itself by stop marrying foreigners. The French has already become a very mixed people. I personally know 1 pureblood French, my 90s old host mother who was also a countess according to the old nobility. Even her grandchildren married Asians and Indians. Many Indians, blacks and Asians here are 3rd generation French. What is the « pure French race » ?

It also does not make a lot of sense that you say you know a pureblood french and then go on to ask what the pure french race ist.

And yes, my comparison does make sense. Because efforts designed to stop immigration that is predominantly muslim, male and undereducated does not necessarily have to mean that a complete reversal or "purification" has to be the end result. The local culture can already benefit from a deceleration of the current development, a temporary stop or a slight reversal via deportation. Nothing of this is "ironic".

(09-18-2015 12:11 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 09:16 PM)Hotwheels Wrote:  On the flip side, perhaps EE's don't have the desire to come here like those south of the border.

It's off topic, but connected since you guys assume that I have a tin-foil hat on. I would rather claim, that I am all tin:



It's really a funny coincidence that the only two countries within the EU which would produce a significant amount of immigrants are Poland and Romania and exactly those two countries are blocked via a stringent VISA application process by the US.


Official VISA refusal rate.

Yes - those nationalities are not desperate enough to fly to Mexico and cross the Rio Grande. Their idea of illegal immigration is to go to the US on a legal tourist VISA and then stay beyond their given 6 months time limit.

But still - I know young students who were refused a VISA to the US despite them really wanting only to have a short tourist trip. The official obviously feared that they would want to stay beyond.

Think what you want - white migration from European countries is deliberately blocked to the US. The plan is to let in "diverse" immigrants and not those who would melt into the old American stock in looks, outlook on life and mentality.

There is no doubt in my mind that this is deliberate. You may want to think it just happens and that both the US as well as the EU leaders are all bumbling fools and idiots who make huge massive errors non-stop, but then you would have to keep on ignoring entire historical documents and close all eyes and ears to reality forever.

Fucking Christ - just saw this cuck-article:

http://ef-magazin.de/2015/09/14/7474-ein...-jesus-tun

"Immigrant Crisis - what would Jesus do?"

Fuck you bastards - the question is rather here: "What would Mohammed do?"

Zel, where did you get that map? Could you provide the link to the study/article?

Thanks.

(09-18-2015 09:43 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  

Quote:I hate to say it, Dalaran, but most of these are reasonable.

Of course in the curernt context even I would think its reasonable. Wait until you can no longer just hop to France to do some casual gaming weekend anymore. Or you are French and you want to bring your Polish sweetheart to the country. The FN has clear plan to tighten all laws on citizenship through marriage.

My point is, you can easily solve the immigration issue without coming down hard on legal immigrants.

Please - what you mention concerns tourists or migrants like me or Roosh who don't need to work in the country they live in.

It only becomes problematic for those who try to either work conventionally or take financial assistance from the state.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_France

As far as demographics go - you have to go beyond Paris to find the true France. 80-84% are still white, 75% are born to parents both born in France and 60% of all French still have all grandparents born in France.

You find many villages and small towns where almost everyone is French since many generations.

You shouldn't take it personally that a country wishes to preserve a certain composition, culture and treats it's own citizens preferentially. As soon as you are a citizen, then you will be glad that they do.

Still - I wouldn't be too optimistic that this will be enacted in any significant way. The global powers are for mass immigration and it will continue without much interruption. By the way - the elite are not only for mass immigration on the low-end scale of uneducated men, but also like competition in the upper ranks of the employment scale. So I wouldn't be concerned about your own situation. The international money elite is having your back here.

Also I might add - many of us do too but for different more sane reasons.


-- @greekgod: US ViSA B refusal rate: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_Waiver_Program

Actually this one is more telling since you see only part of the refusal rate on the map above. Also it does not tell you exactly how many they allow in entire numbers.

(09-18-2015 01:00 AM)durangotang Wrote:  Believe me, Google tweaks it's algorithm and outright manually censors results when it wants. Following are two topical examples to illustrate my point:

'Jews Run Hollywood' Search Term Prompts Urgent Google Attention (source Haaretz)

From the article:

Google algorithms, which sometimes produce unwarranted and offensive search results, caused searching 'Who runs Hollywood' to find result of 'the Jews.'

...

Google search results are the product of complicated algorithms that sometimes return unwanted or offensive results. Many consider the notion that the Jews run Hollywood to be offensive.
A Google spokesman told the United Kingdom’s Daily Mail, “This has been flagged to us, we are working to get it removed as quickly as possible.”

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Google Shopping Will Yank Confederate Flags Following Amazon, eBay (source recode.net)

From the article:

This afternoon, Google said it will too. The company is planning to pull paraphernalia with images of the flag from Google Shopping, its online marketplace, as well as its product listing ads.

“We have decided to remove content containing the Confederate flag from Google Shopping and Ads,” a Google spokeswoman wrote in an email. “We have determined that the Confederate flag violates our Ads policies, which don’t allow content that’s generally perceived as expressing hate toward a particular group.”

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As you can see Google engages in information censorship either outright or by tweaking it's algorithms in an effort to influence the culture.

None of this explains how when you type in American white couple, you get a bunch of black, gay pictures. Google is not directing its employees to tweek algorithms in favor of black couples. Consider that they couldn't remove any of the offensive images towards jews, muslims or any other group.
I am going to explain how its done:

The cultural Marxist "techies" have uploaded black and gay couple images to hosting sites with American white couple tags. Then you publish the image in a 1000 different micro sites, after 1-2 months the images will appear on top of google images. The weaker the search the faster it happens. For popular searches, this process is mostly useless. They probably started with "American couple" since someone probably complained about how its always white images and then they trolled "American white couple."

If you search using Bing or any other search engine, you will get the SAME result. The search team at Microsoft and Google and every other search engine are not getting together to change this one result.

The "replenishing" was done outside the search engine and not tweeked from within.

It was interesting to find out that while Germany talks about 800.000+ immigrants, the UK got a whopping 318.000 official net number of migrants. More than half of those are from outside the EU and this does not even include the huge number of fake student migrants:

Quote:Net long-term migration to the UK (immigration less emigration) was estimated to be 318,000 in the calendar year 2014. This was just below the previous peak (320,000 in the year ending (YE) June 2005) and a statistically significant increase from 209,000 in 2013.
641,000 people immigrated to the UK in 2014, a statistically significant increase from 526,000 in 2013. There were statistically significant increases for immigration of EU (non-British) citizens (up 67,000 to 268,000) and non-EU citizens (up 42,000 to 290,000). Immigration of British citizens increased by 7,000 to 83,000, but this was not statistically significant.

So essentially you have 641.000 moving in plus x-number of illegals and 150.000 of foreign students - per year!

Quote:An estimated 323,000 people emigrated from the UK in 2014. Overall emigration levels have been relatively stable since 2010.

I guess those emigrating will be the highly educated and the British who cannot take it anymore.

This is amazing really - Britain could actually have an influx of 800.000 migrants each year! I know that it's not as one-sided and low-level as in Sweden, but that is massive indeed.

Today 1000 or more refugees are expected to cross the Finnish border from Sweden. Mostly refugees from Iraq.
This is a enormous amount per capita even compared to Germany and Sweden.
Even our PM admits that the situation is getting out of our hands. Last year Finland had 3600 asylum seekers.

Now we only have to wait and see what need to happen before anyone will put the foot down.

Big demostrations in Helsinki aswell, but that is people protesting against economical reforms. People are still focusing on the wrong thing..

Swedish human trafficers are in a hurry right now to make the biggest buck of the bang.

(09-18-2015 10:48 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  It was interesting to find out that while Germany talks about 800.000+ immigrants, the UK got a whopping 318.000 official net number of migrants. More than half of those are from outside the EU and this does not even include the huge number of fake student migrants:

Quote:Net long-term migration to the UK (immigration less emigration) was estimated to be 318,000 in the calendar year 2014. This was just below the previous peak (320,000 in the year ending (YE) June 2005) and a statistically significant increase from 209,000 in 2013.
641,000 people immigrated to the UK in 2014, a statistically significant increase from 526,000 in 2013. There were statistically significant increases for immigration of EU (non-British) citizens (up 67,000 to 268,000) and non-EU citizens (up 42,000 to 290,000). Immigration of British citizens increased by 7,000 to 83,000, but this was not statistically significant.

So essentially you have 641.000 moving in plus x-number of illegals and 150.000 of foreign students - per year!

Quote:An estimated 323,000 people emigrated from the UK in 2014. Overall emigration levels have been relatively stable since 2010.

I guess those emigrating will be the highly educated and the British who cannot take it anymore.

This is amazing really - Britain could actually have an influx of 800.000 migrants each year! I know that it's not as one-sided and low-level as in Sweden, but that is massive indeed.

How many Polish and Romanians have moved to the UK in the last 10 years?