(09-16-2015 02:14 PM)amity Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 01:37 PM)Roosh Wrote:  

Quote:The media is definitely overinflating the "refugees welcome" cucks and underinflating the sensible patriots that are opposed to this invasion.

It's not enough for them to be opposed. I want to see them on the streets like in Eastern Europe. If they're not willing to spend 4 hours to make a physical statement against the invasion, to inconvenience their cafe time, they don't care enough to save their country.

I think far West Europe (Portugal, NW Spain, perhaps Ireland too where I'm based) will not go under, or at least not like what the rest of Western Europe is facing.
You're absolutely correct re people not willing to come out and protest for a number of hours for what they believe in.
In Ireland, although we have sizeable numbers of #refugeeswelcome cucks, I'm seeing an undercurrent of people who see through the media propaganda for the bullshit that it is.
Thing is though, were I, or fellow free thinkers, to march/protest tomorrow, not only would we face the wrath of (and possible violence) from SJW elements, but our livelihoods would be in danger.
I work for a big international corporation, which is very much on board the 'Diversity + Equality' bandwagon.
I'm pretty sure I would be getting my P45 if I was seen on TV in a PEGIDAesque protest!
And there's the rub...... the refugeeswelcome weaklings are propped up by the media and the establishment.
Anyone coming out against the narrative faces significantly more risks, by coming out and protesting in public.

I've watched Euronews, Deutsche Welle, France 24/7, and read Reuters on Wednesday's event on the border between Serbia and Hungary. But I got fewer details and less information that that compiled by Breitbart: Headline

"STATE OF EMERGENCY: POLICE FIRE TEAR GAS AT RIOTING MIGRANTS CHANTING 'ALLAH HU AKBAR' TRYING TO BREAK THROUGH HUNGARIAN BORDER"

Maximum detail.

(09-17-2015 12:52 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  

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HOLY SHIT - Hungary is literally sending in the cavalry!

Seems like the "White Genocide" narrative has a lot of evidence going for it right now:

https://murderbymedia2.wordpress.com/201...tch-women/

Quote:A private Dutch sperm clinic impregnated up to 500 women
with the sperm of a mentally handicapped Surinamese man by accident, it has been revealed

The clinic was also caught falsifying records and storing semen in leaking tanks.

Dutch woman Sonja Noordhoek went to the Humo Medical Center in Bijborp and had two children – a son and a daughter – with the help of the sperm bank. The donor sheet claimed that the sperm came from a Dutch man with two children and a university degree who grew up in South Limburg.

“But while the children were growing up, they were getting darker,” says Sonja. The biological father was then discovered to be an autistic Surinamese man. Sonja said that her daughter did not inherit the mental disability, but her son has some degree of retardation. “I came into contact twelve half brothers and sisters, and ten of them have problems,” Sonja said.

It turns out that the Surinamese man had donated more than was legally allowed, and that this seed was spread throughout the Netherlands and even exported to Austria. It is estimated that between 400 and 500 women have become pregnant with his rotten and corrupted seed.

Jan Karbaat, the doctor who ran the clinic, is under criminal investigation.

How on earth do 400-500 women accidentally get impregnated with a retarded man's sperm? Why would a sperm bank even carry such sperm? This had to have been deliberate. It looks as deliberate as the migrant invasion of Europe.

Latest news: Croatia overwhelmed by over 6 000 migrants (plus an unknown number of unregistered ones), food supplies from national reserves are dwindling and citizens are being urged to donate.
http://www.jutarnji.hr/foto--izbjeglicka...i/1419579/

The comments on all major news articles about the migrant crisis are disabled - I'm sure you can guess why.

Migrant crisis: German company refuses to sell razor wire to Hungary for anti-refugee fence

Quote:A German company has refused to sell razor wire to Hungary, which is building its border fence with Serbia in a bid to stop asylum-seekers from entering the country, according to reports.
Mutanox, a Berlin-based wholesale supplier of wires and fences, was asked by Hungary in August to submit a tender for the purchase of 9,000 to 10,000 rolls of wire to employ in its infamous fence. But the company refused to go ahead with the sale, citing humanitarian concerns. "The wire is designed to prevent criminal acts," a spokesman for the company told Die Welt. "Children and adults fleeing is not a criminal act."

Suddenly a for-profit corporation is concerned about humanitarian issues.

Yet another example of the atmosphere of fear pervasive in all layers in the German society on this issue.

The media has started spilling the beans on the immigrants in Poland:

http://wiadomosci.wp.pl/kat,1019409,titl...omosc.html

They tell of one Baptist family and stress the point that they are Christians. They also mention that the family gets a free apartment in addition to 2500zl per month. 2500zl is an average net income for a man in Poland. Also the apartment for free is great, since rents can be as high as 1400zl for a family.

I am sure quite a few families will realize that those kind of financial incentives are on par to Western countries since they have more spending money that way.

The article gets ripped apart in the comment section as 15 mio. Poles live in far worse conditions than what the refugees get for free.

But at least the anti-immigration party PIS with Kaczynski in tow is looking to win 56% of the votes in the next election. They will likely rule alone and stem the flow.

Also - Hungarians as well as other nationalities don't need to fear the EU and their "sanctions". The EU creators need the member countries more than they themselves need the EU. You have to realize that the EU is a conquest machine designed to assimilate individual member countries into the Borg collective. The last thing they want is for one Borg unit to wake up and go their own way. Hungary has nothing to fear for opposing the EU to the utmost.

(09-17-2015 03:23 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Latest news: Croatia overwhelmed by over 6 000 migrants (plus an unknown number of unregistered ones), food supplies from national reserves are dwindling and citizens are being urged to donate.
http://www.jutarnji.hr/foto--izbjeglicka...i/1419579/

The comments on all major news articles about the migrant crisis are disabled - I'm sure you can guess why.

The situation in Croatia is going to be interesting for sure since the country is now part of the invasion warpath.

I mean what did Zoran Milanović think when he stated yesterday to just give them free pass to northern europe accompanied by weird drivel about how borders are bad? Does he think this is going to stop?

(09-17-2015 03:48 AM)UncleSam Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 03:23 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  Latest news: Croatia overwhelmed by over 6 000 migrants (plus an unknown number of unregistered ones), food supplies from national reserves are dwindling and citizens are being urged to donate.
http://www.jutarnji.hr/foto--izbjeglicka...i/1419579/

The comments on all major news articles about the migrant crisis are disabled - I'm sure you can guess why.

The situation in Croatia is going to be interesting for sure since the country is now part of the invasion warpath.

I mean what did Zoran Milanović think when he stated yesterday to just give them free pass to northern europe accompanied by weird drivel about how borders are bad? Does he think this is going to stop?

To be honest, I can't tell if Zoran Milanović actually believes this stuff or he said it just on orders from his EU overlords (i.e. Merkel and Juncker). Sometimes I think that he is just a political parasite willing to do whatever will keep him in power, and sometimes I think he's a genuine SJW who fanatically believes in all this crap. It's hard to say why he does it.

However, it's undeniable that he knew well what the consequences of his words would be.

Either way, he should be jailed and put on trial for committing high treason.

Quote:A private Dutch sperm clinic impregnated up to 500 women
with the sperm of a mentally handicapped Surinamese man by accident, it has been revealed

Jesus Christ.

Hell of an "accident"

The situation. Small map starting first.

(09-16-2015 04:02 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Still, some French people try and fight back. This week-end, we had French soccer fans in Lyon brandishing a banner against illegal migrants.

Fans of 6 teams in Poland were punished hard by football federation after their "anti-immigration" chants and transparents.

Its quite an interesting situation in Poland - media (ugh, biggest polish non-tabloid newspaper "Gazeta Wyborcza" is impossible to read these days), calebrities and organizations below government and parliament level are pushing pro-immigration policy hard. But government on outside is quite skeptical, as it's their only (though minor) chance to not lose too many votes in upcoming election.

I would expect that on the street real opinion on immigration is similar to gay marriage stand - around 2/3 people is against it.

(09-16-2015 02:26 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  It's simply prudent not to turn up to peaceful protests - they achieve nothing. The reason the Left are so effective when they protest is because they are very willing to use violence and destroy property. People on the right tend to be more thoughtful, and have far more to lose from violent confrontation (job, family, etc). The Left knows this and uses it to its advantage. Public protest is not an effective tool for the Right, they'll never be as good at it as the left.

Totally different situation in Poland - here right wing is much better organized regarding activists, much bigger in numbers and much much more violent. I aften have a problem with it, but actually in this case I just accept that right wing politicians using football holligans for their goals is a good cause.

Would be interesting to hear some ground reports from Spain,France and Italy and how the atmosphere is there.

Media is not giving that "frontier" too much of attention.

(09-17-2015 06:08 AM)whoishe Wrote:  

(09-16-2015 04:02 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Still, some French people try and fight back. This week-end, we had French soccer fans in Lyon brandishing a banner against illegal migrants.

Fans of 6 teams in Poland were punished hard by football federation after their "anti-immigration" chants and transparents.

Its quite an interesting situation in Poland - media (ugh, biggest polish non-tabloid newspaper "Gazeta Wyborcza" is impossible to read these days), calebrities and organizations below government and parliament level are pushing pro-immigration policy hard. But government on outside is quite skeptical, as it's their only (though minor) chance to not lose too many votes in upcoming election.

I would expect that on the street real opinion on immigration is similar to gay marriage stand - around 2/3 people is against it.

(09-16-2015 02:26 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  It's simply prudent not to turn up to peaceful protests - they achieve nothing. The reason the Left are so effective when they protest is because they are very willing to use violence and destroy property. People on the right tend to be more thoughtful, and have far more to lose from violent confrontation (job, family, etc). The Left knows this and uses it to its advantage. Public protest is not an effective tool for the Right, they'll never be as good at it as the left.

Totally different situation in Poland - here right wing is much better organized regarding activists, much bigger in numbers and much much more violent. I aften have a problem with it, but actually in this case I just accept that right wing politicians using football holligans for their goals is a good cause.

Have you got any more information on the Polish football fans?

It sounds like the clubs would have been fined but the fans will probably get off fine.

Who cares? they can afford it. This is a good way to spread resistance.

(09-17-2015 06:20 AM)Chaos Wrote:  Would be interesting to hear some ground reports from Spain,France and Italy and how the atmosphere is there.

Media is not giving that "frontier" too much of attention.

I'd also like to hear about the atmosphere in Greece. I'm suprised a full on war hasn't started over there yet.

(09-17-2015 06:21 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  Have you got any more information on the Polish football fans?

It sounds like the clubs would have been fined but the fans will probably get off fine.

Who cares? they can afford it. This is a good way to spread resistance.

Yes, thats basically the case.

Polish clubs have a long time history for paying fines caused by their supporters (domesic and abroad). I guess it will be another chapter of this story, just for better cause this time.

Some chants from last weekend matches:

"Islamskie swinie, nie chcemy was w Szczecinie" (Islamic pigs, we don't want you in Szczecin - plus there is a decent rhyme to it in polish)

"Jebac arabów" (f*** Arabs)

"To dla nas oczywiste i proste, nie chcemy uchodzcow w Polsce" (It's clear and simple for us, we don't want immigrants in Poland - another rhyme in polish)

Giving intel about here in Portugal, well the media has been reporting things and we're going to take in up to 3000 refugees. I'd say public opinion is divided over having them or not. The argument used is often financial to be honest. This is also due to the fact that the 50k muslims we have here never caused any problems. And from what I hear at least part of the refugees will be integrated near some muslim communities. People are mostly pissed off at the financial factor and not much about the "islamic" factor. And if they try something in the country of WINE and PORK...Well let's just say they'd have some bad luck coming their way. Though frankly I don't think we'll have a lot of trouble assimilating them. Portuguese have a different measure of racism than others countries, which I suppose facilitates integration.

(09-16-2015 10:34 PM)Darius Wrote:  The most obvious one being population control. The west almost entirely is facing a crashing indigenous population. The only thing sustaining population in the west at this point is immigration. So this phase has been a complete success. If they can export this model to the rest of the world, overpopulation will never be a problem again.

The bolded is pure elitist propaganda and is similar to using other slurs from SJWs. It should not even be entertained here.

Europe does not have a fertility problem. Europe is not a country in need of billions of farm workers or migrant workers like China. A decrease in population might actually be a very good idea, more space, less demand for housing, less tax demands. It's the rest of the world that needs to have fewer kids not the other way.

Europe does not need immigration. For what? They have much lower work rates than the locals and are economically a net negative, how does that work?

That argument - that Europe needs immigration because of population decline - is hopefully not something that anyone here believes.

(09-17-2015 02:32 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Hopefully this will be the straw that breaks the camels back and kicks off an Iron Legion uprising across Europe.

http://www.thisblogisdangerous.com/the-iron-legion/

The Iron Legion is a movement that encompasses the men and women who wish to see a return to traditional values and preserve the identity of the European people. We are united by our blood, traditions and values.

Every European man should reflect on this, and feel shame :

http://www.thisblogisdangerous.com/stop-...isnt-fair/

"Europe is being invaded by millions of people from the worst parts of the world (essentially, Africa). It’s easy to complain about it but it does nothing in the face of people who are crossing continents and oceans to get here. If we are to stop it, we need to meet it with the same type of iron determination. You should be ashamed to do nothing. You should want to fight. If you won’t act then you will be reliant on those who will. If you won’t fight for what is yours then why should you be saved?"

...which matches Roosh's words:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50253...pid1112353

(09-17-2015 06:36 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  The bolded is pure elitist propaganda and is similar to using other slurs from SJWs. It should not even be entertained here.

Europe does not have a fertility problem. Europe is not a country in need of billions of farm workers or migrant workers like China. A decrease in population might actually be a very good idea, more space, less demand for housing, less tax demands. It's the rest of the world that needs to have fewer kids not the other way.

Europe does not need immigration. For what? They have much lower work rates than the locals and are economically a net negative, how does that work?

That argument - that Europe needs immigration because of population decline - is hopefully not something that anyone here believes.

That is true. The governments need the population because that is the only way to fund the pyramid scheme called pensions, and the crazy notion of this "perpetual growth".

(09-17-2015 06:41 AM)Glaucon Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 06:36 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  The bolded is pure elitist propaganda and is similar to using other slurs from SJWs. It should not even be entertained here.

Europe does not have a fertility problem. Europe is not a country in need of billions of farm workers or migrant workers like China. A decrease in population might actually be a very good idea, more space, less demand for housing, less tax demands. It's the rest of the world that needs to have fewer kids not the other way.

Europe does not need immigration. For what? They have much lower work rates than the locals and are economically a net negative, how does that work?

That argument - that Europe needs immigration because of population decline - is hopefully not something that anyone here believes.

That is true. The governments need the population because that is the only way to fund the pyramid scheme called pensions, and the crazy notion of this "perpetual growth".

Yes, they need population growth to fund boomer pensions, because as in the US pensions are taken from the same years tax and not savings. They see a possible bankruptcy looming.

The problem is that these immigrants are a huge net economic negative. They do not contribute economically.

It is therefore mainly a line served by the lefts masters to get gullible people to go along.

If the elites were really worried about declining populations in Europe, they would do things to take care of it endogenously, such as talking about abortion, education just for education's sake, focusing on the economy and ability to support families for men, etc. Not one of these so called elites are calling on women to have more children - which means having children at a younger age.

That's why it is total bs and that is why no one here should believe or perpetuate this foul piece of propaganda, that Europe 'needs' immigration.

Some forum member a few pages behind stated interesting things about the "Usury" that all of this is and indeed he was right in that regard. This is a desperate attempt to keep the dying patient which is the welfare state connected to the life support machines when all it needs is to be reformed and eventually eliminated.

@nomadbrah Well said sir, you beat me to it!
While native people in Europe are not reproducing like before, this is largely a result of r-selected socialist types dictating Government policy, increasing the welfare state and making it more expensive for native people to reproduce, but encouraging immigrants and the unemployed to reproduce (who the working people have to pay for via higher taxes, further reinforcing the cycle whereby the k-selected people who actually contribute to society, reproduce less).
ie. by encouraging more immigration from poor countries, you create a worse society
You end up with higher taxes to support the newly arrived immigrants, you incentivise r-selected reproduction, undermining the traditional family structure but incentivising single mothers to keep pumping out more children out of wedlock, ergo more people on welfare, more crime, more teenage pregnancies, drugs, delinquency, etc
And so k-selected people can no longer afford to have families as they're working and paying for all the r-selected people.

(09-17-2015 06:20 AM)Chaos Wrote:  Would be interesting to hear some ground reports from Spain,France and Italy and how the atmosphere is there.

Media is not giving that "frontier" too much of attention.

A friend has family currently in Sicily. I asked him for a detailed idea of what it's like there at the moment. He said it's similar to what is going on in Lesbos.

For the sake of optimism, he added that people there are used to banding together and fighting off gangs of savages like this and their reliance on the government apparatus to secure them is growing thin.

(09-17-2015 06:40 AM)Going strong Wrote:  

(09-17-2015 02:32 AM)Deepdiver Wrote:  Hopefully this will be the straw that breaks the camels back and kicks off an Iron Legion uprising across Europe.

http://www.thisblogisdangerous.com/the-iron-legion/

The Iron Legion is a movement that encompasses the men and women who wish to see a return to traditional values and preserve the identity of the European people. We are united by our blood, traditions and values.

Every European man should reflect on this, and feel shame :

http://www.thisblogisdangerous.com/stop-...isnt-fair/

"Europe is being invaded by millions of people from the worst parts of the world (essentially, Africa). It’s easy to complain about it but it does nothing in the face of people who are crossing continents and oceans to get here. If we are to stop it, we need to meet it with the same type of iron determination. You should be ashamed to do nothing. You should want to fight. If you won’t act then you will be reliant on those who will. If you won’t fight for what is yours then why should you be saved?"

...which matches Roosh's words:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50253...pid1112353

I'm finding this a hard pill to swallow, but it rings very much true. The left is making it hard to raise our voices. We've seen this by many attempts of arresting anti-immigration actions in several countries, as well as the typical racist card.

I'm trying to show people close to me that something is wrong and something is about to happen as a first step, but I feel waiting for the right to take over the political landschape will be too late. Even then, politics is too worried about how it looks to take hard action.

As someone who could be described anti-religion, I'm starting to get somewhat extreme measures in my head. I have a few Muslim friends but the statistics of their extreme methods don't lie, since I'm not the biggest fan of gangraping women and children.

As an example, the Dutch media went absolutely wild leftist on the drowned Syrian boy, but none of my friends knew the dad was a people smuggler until I told them. So for now the plan is; show people a truth less veiled than the leftist tablespoon-fed doctrines they've been fed their whole life. Breed intelligently and get ready for battle when the time comes.

Germany’s Top Migration Official Steps Down

Quote:BERLIN — The top migration official in Germany, who has come under fire for a post on Twitter from his office last month that is widely viewed as having encouraged Syrians to come to his country, stepped down on Thursday.

The official, Manfred Schmidt, president of the Federal Office for Migration and Refugees, quit as stranded migrants were forced to plot new routes to Western Europe after violent clashes at Serbia’s border with Hungary prompted thousands of them to head for Croatia.

The migration office posted a message on Twitter on Aug. 25 stating that Syrians refugees would be granted asylum in Germany, regardless of how they had reached the country.

The tweet, based on a technical decision circulated in Mr. Schmidt’s office, was aimed at speeding up the decision time for new asylum applications. But it quickly went viral in the Arabic-speaking world, where the decision was interpreted as Germany throwing open its doors.

But within days, tens of thousands had gathered at Budapest’s Keleti station, chanting “Germany, Germany,” and seeking to travel west and leading Hungarian officials to criticize what it saw as Berlin’s unilateral rescinding of European Union policy.