Post: #1251

(09-09-2015 08:17 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 08:10 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:31 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:24 PM)monster Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:13 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  How is it possible to use a "fake" credit card? Banks need your real name, SSN, date of birth, and all of that before issuing a card and an account to go with it.

a prepaid card.

Still needs your SSN and your personal info.

So even those greendot Visa/Mastercard they sell at CVS or Walgreens require a SSN?

I'll go check the local CVS this weekend. I was going through the steps online, and the website asked for a SSN. Maybe it's different at CVS.

I went to CVS a few years ago and got one of those Visa cards and I don't remember being asked for a social security number. I did have trouble buying some things with that card. I think I only bought it to buy a plane ticket somewhere and had a problem with it.

Post: #1252

(09-09-2015 08:10 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:31 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:24 PM)monster Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:13 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  How is it possible to use a "fake" credit card? Banks need your real name, SSN, date of birth, and all of that before issuing a card and an account to go with it.

a prepaid card.

Still needs your SSN and your personal info.

So even those greendot Visa/Mastercard they sell at CVS or Walgreens require a SSN?

No

Post: #1253

(09-10-2015 12:44 PM)monster Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 08:10 PM)PapayaTapper Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:31 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:24 PM)monster Wrote:  

(09-09-2015 01:13 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  How is it possible to use a "fake" credit card? Banks need your real name, SSN, date of birth, and all of that before issuing a card and an account to go with it.

a prepaid card.

Still needs your SSN and your personal info.

So even those greendot Visa/Mastercard they sell at CVS or Walgreens require a SSN?

No

Now that I think about it, I got the prepaid credit card to pay for my copy of Bang before I started even reading the forum. I still haven't sat down and read the whole book.

Post: #1254

Pre Paid Credit Cards: You don't need to provide SSN to buy one and or use it at lets say Gas Station, Groceries etc but you can not use it to book hotel rooms or Airline tickets.

You can register the card online in your name that is when you would have to provide home address and other personal info so that when hotels run it they can locate you, even then it didn't work in certain hotels because the hotels want to put a hold of let's say 200-500 dollars at check in, just in case there are Incidentals.

Even when I had a prepaid credit card with $500 limit it didn't work at a hotel. For Hotels and Airline tickets prepaid credit cards are a hit and miss for me but works to renew membership for online dating sites if they are registered, so no added benefit ?

Anyone has more info, do let us know to how to make prepaid credit cards work.

Post: #1255

Can you guys do me a favor and if you are able to pay for Seeking Arrangement using a prepaid credit card, report back about it? I'm genuinely curious.

Post: #1256

(09-10-2015 02:53 PM)Merenguero Wrote:  Can you guys do me a favor and if you are able to pay for Seeking Arrangement using a prepaid credit card, report back about it? I'm genuinely curious.

Yeah, I'll give it a shot this weekend.

Post: #1257

Just download the android app and use that to pay. The transaction will handled by google play. Your card details won't be passed , as google acts like a paypal !
I must admit I was a little apprehensive about SA with the Ashley Mad hack but at the end of the day , you can find 99% of the girls with google images anyway.
The guys , yeah the married ones should be worried but if you're single then who cares.

Post: #1258

There is an option for paying by mail.

If a girl is coming from another town (half an hour drive) for the first time then meeting for drinks is a better option or for dinner? Dinner on first date may be beta and it takes much more time also. But then meeting for just drinks may sound stingy specially given that she has to drive some distance to meet me. (She needs to be sober driving back also.) What do you suggest?

Post: #1259

(09-11-2015 07:36 AM)duedue Wrote:  There is an option for paying by mail.

If a girl is coming from another town (half an hour drive) for the first time then meeting for drinks is a better option or for dinner? Dinner on first date may be beta and it takes much more time also. But then meeting for just drinks may sound stingy specially given that she has to drive some distance to meet me. (She needs to be sober driving back also.) What do you suggest?

Come on man.

Meet her later, for drinks.

SA game only works if you already got game.

You shouldn't be asking a question like this fella!

Post: #1260

Yes meet her for drinks. Ignore the shaming tactics of society, why would you buy dinner for someone you don't know. What has she done for you? You owe her nothing. Also attraction falls way down when a woman is eating, it won't help at all.

There are plenty of women on this site looking for a free dinner, avoid them. Frame it that you will take them out for drinks, that you have dinner plans lined up earlier that day and can do dinner perhaps next time.

Post: #1261

(05-09-2015 03:09 PM)Carlos100 Wrote:  

(05-09-2015 04:13 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  I told her no. Can you?

I've had girls send me unsolicited photos like this on SA. I assumed they were pros and didn't respond.

This is old, but I was not talking solely about photos.

My point is this; Can you say no to that hotbox when she demands something of you.

Pictures are only good to see if she is worth your time. Meet her in person.

Never fold to their demands,

Never

Post: #1262

(09-12-2015 04:55 AM)Hotwheels Wrote:  Never fold to their demands,

Never

Never fold to their demands? If a girl I just met ever made any demand of me I'd kick her the fuck out/get up and leave.

If she's really hot I'll give her the one chance to retract and apologize.

Post: #1263

Did something happen about mid year in 2015 to the girls on this site or is it just me?

The first half of the year, it was easier to get meet ups and first date bangs and only every once in a while did they bring up an arrangement before or on the first date. If they did bring it up, it was usually after I got the bang.

Second half of the year, they all ask 'so what kind of arrangement are you looking for' either before the first meet or during it and are much harder to bang close/get second dates. They're also un shamedly asking for allowances where I hardly ever heard that the first half of the year.

Was there was "How to properly be a SB seminar" or something halfway through the year that caused these girls on the site all of a sudden to be harder to close?

Post: #1264

(09-15-2015 08:40 PM)robreke Wrote:  Did something happen about mid year in 2015 to the girls on this site or is it just me?

The first half of the year, it was easier to get meet ups and first date bangs and only every once in a while did they bring up an arrangement before or on the first date. If they did bring it up, it was usually after I got the bang.

Second half of the year, they all ask 'so what kind of arrangement are you looking for' either before the first meet or during it and are much harder to bang close/get second dates. They're also un shamedly asking for allowances where I hardly ever heard that the first half of the year.

Was there was "How to properly be a SB seminar" or something halfway through the year that caused these girls on the site all of a sudden to be harder to close?

Wouldn't surprise me. It seems something happened mid 2015 that made online game much more difficult as a whole, seemingly no matter which site or app we use.

Post: #1265

It's not just you- the glory days of SA are past . But you can still pull free bangs off there, it's just harder. I think 1-2 bangs per monthly membership period is a realistic expectation now.

Post: #1266

I think there are too many total frauds playing the game to be honest.

If you are, or can absolutely present yourself as a high end guy you'll still be fine.

The World churns out millions of broke young girl every year.

Maybe we should petition the TV stations to show Pretty Woman more often

Post: #1267

(09-15-2015 08:42 PM)CleanSlate Wrote:  

(09-15-2015 08:40 PM)robreke Wrote:  Did something happen about mid year in 2015 to the girls on this site or is it just me?

The first half of the year, it was easier to get meet ups and first date bangs and only every once in a while did they bring up an arrangement before or on the first date. If they did bring it up, it was usually after I got the bang.

Second half of the year, they all ask 'so what kind of arrangement are you looking for' either before the first meet or during it and are much harder to bang close/get second dates. They're also un shamedly asking for allowances where I hardly ever heard that the first half of the year.

Was there was "How to properly be a SB seminar" or something halfway through the year that caused these girls on the site all of a sudden to be harder to close?

Wouldn't surprise me. It seems something happened mid 2015 that made online game much more difficult as a whole, seemingly no matter which site or app we use.

I've found beginning of Fall Semester [thru Oct] is always the best time for me personally. By then they're looking for a bf, or just dumped a bf, or feel they have classes on lock and are just dying to get fucked.

I love college girls.

Post: #1268

Finally read every damn post in this thread. Curiosity got the best of me and signed up for SA somewhere around page 10.

First SA bang was last night although she was a bit of a disappointment from her pics. Met her at my go to bar and just ran my standard first date game.

I went against the conventional wisdom of the hotel and took a gamble bringing her to my place since it's closeby the bars. I live in an apartment building that is gated and locked down like fort knox so I figured skipping out on the $150ish for a hotel was worth the risk.

Finding SA was like stumbling into another dimension. A world where up is down and down is up. The man is the chooser and the hot girls are the pursuers. I always knew, but never fully realized what money and status (or the illusion of money and status) can do for a man.

I've borrowed a ton of concepts and lines from this thread so thanks to all. I use the overall mentality discussed by Hotwheels, EBIF, and MrXY in the early pages of the thread. I've used the opener cited by Bone Daddy, then just a pretty basic "tell me about yourself" qualifier. Then I tell them that "You may have some potential. Text me. 555-555-5555" Credit to swuglyfe for the 'potential' bit.

Then once I have the number I get a few more pics from them and suggest we get to know each other over drinks. If they start asking arrangement questions I just tell them, "I've been meeting a few girls for drinks so I can pick one for the arrangement." (of course there is no arrangement, not doing p4p)

This little statement easily weeds out the pro SBs who expect to be paid just to go on a date. I'm unflinchingly rigid with my terms if they object to being a contestant. Most of the girls will buy in with no objections. Of course you do come across the pros who will turn your stomach with their entitlement frames.

I'm in my 20s so I made up a somewhat believable backstory about being childhood friends with the CEO of a social media site. I say that I own a small percentage of the company worth a couple million.

My profile pic has my face blurred out, wearing a shirt and tie. They can't see it, but I'm wearing gym shorts in the pic.

Getting on Tinder today was like staying at the motel 6 after you've been living at the W

Post: #1269

Saved a hot 20 year old blonde last night from a creepy dude who had her trapped in a gated business . I never meet this girl before and I was like you should come over then shes like what do I say to this guy, I'm in his place and can't leave . 20 minutes later she's telling me how he's trying to fuck her . She called the cops as I arrived and was hiding . Really fucked up . She loves me now and we had some fun in a parking lot to her car thirty minutes away from this guys place .

Suppose to be meeting up with a hot 19 year old tonight , will post pics if she lets me take them .

Post: #1270

(09-08-2015 05:52 PM)Deepdiver Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 01:08 AM)swuglyfe Wrote:  Deepdiver,

Just to clarify, what's your angle with WYP? Are you paying standard $100 for each date as an ONS, or are you trying to be alpha enough to get the goods for free in hypothetical subsequent meets?

Also, great play by play breakdown of the filtering and bang process. Basically the authoritative guide on how to play the game short of literally holding the person's hand.

A little background info - I come from the Paul Janka school - I never liked PUA clown antics - I am former military and when young NEVER needed any schemes, even in Navy Towns it was Suit up (Uniform only at official functions) , Go Out, cocktails, dance, get her wet, go home and bang.

As I got older I had to study game and bought Paul Janka's humorous and true How to get laid in NYC and then his more thorough Attraction Formula (game ebook) the take away was NYC or other cities are expensive so NEVER pay for more than a cocktail or cup of coffee or iced tea before she bangs you then if YOU decide to put her in rotation if you want to have her join you for a bite to eat or some take out then fine.

So with WYP at first I bought into the common critique that it is BETA to ever pay a women to go on a date with you then I did my Deep Dive key word "model" research and found there were more "model" quality women in a 100 Mile radius of a major top tier city on SA or WYP then there were in the Entire Country on Match or POF or OKC which should really be named Match with Plenty of OK Single Mothers...

Well I do not like just OK I like outstanding... only sites with a surplus of model talent is SA/WYP/ModelMayhem.

I then narrow my search with my height, weight, race, body type, eye color preferences (Ignore hair color in women they change it with the weather) Of course I avoid women with Unnatural Hair colors, unnatural piercings and hideous unnatural tatts like a plague - too each his own - I can't roll into a Corporate function with a Carnival Side Show tattooed or pierced lady. Plus I have great taste in beauty and my sense of beauty is a naturally beautiful woman without excessive chemical alterations internally or externally.

Then search again with your preferences and keyword model deleted and you find model equivalent young ladies on both SA and WYP without any model attitude or demands.

A little about WYP, Brandon Betatude Wade populated WYP initially off of SA to market to men who have their shite together and will NEVER pay an ongoing allowance (Most of US at RVF) so the scheme on WYP is the attractive members get paid for a meetup by successful members without the pressure for an Allowance/Arrangement - the average offer is $50 though real agency signed models in Boston or NYC will counter with $150, $200 or in NYC $300, one Ivy League Frat Slore actually countered with $500... reeeeleeey??? Not happening and the greedy ones just disqualified themselves for being delusional snowflakes.

So only way I am paying even one dollar is that she really is a one in a million snowflake, a solid natural golden ratio 9/10 with no hideous tatts, hair or piercings and is a real upscale intelligent young college or grad student/model looking lady that passes the boner test and you can take to biz functions without being embarrassed.

Regarding WYP I have never paid more than my standard $100 total - rule is $50 (half) at the beginning of a meet up and then if I pick up the tab I ignore the second $50 as a test and tell them with well I picked up the tab - I had one 9 throw "rules are rules" at me and gave her her 2nd $50 - keep in mind I only do this if the date went well - she dolled herself up so that if a natural 8/9 she looked like a 9/10 and did all the right things, was lady like and feminine, ignored her damn phone and followed my lead to Turn it off (Did not want my next 2nd in Rotation screwing up a good meet with my preferred primary if going well and perfectly acceptable under WYP rules NOT to pay the second $50 of my standard $100 offer at the end of the date if it did not go well in my opinion. (She bounces with me and bangs my brains out to get in rotation). She can either stay for a morning bang and room service breakfast or leave that night - another test the ones who stay do not need to pay a baby sitter - the ones who leave 99% of the time have a rug rat they have to get home to so the kids grand parents sitting don't get pissed.

My logic is this - since SA and WYP are doing me a huge favor sifting and filtering out the bulldog Cerberus tattooed daughters of Satan and their single mother evil spawn for me unlike ModelMayhem, Match, POF and OKC - it is a service I put a value on and am willing to pay for especially since WYP is advertised as NOT an arrangement site.

I keep my profile succinct and my follow up email concise as above and then text strictly the logistics for the first MeetUp... If we agree to an ongoing rotation - as I always go for the bang even though WYP advertises that "Sex should never be expected on the first "date" - I say well the meet for drinks was the first date and the bounce (to bang) is the second date so she is lucky that I think she is worth a twofer with a sly smile. If she hits you in the arm and says how you are soo Baad - its all good.

Anyway once in rotation she will be complying with my requests to bring by stuff from the grocery store I may be out of and if I cook or Order Out for a post bang eat then the first C-Note comes out in the wash anyway. I have always been an if she flies I'll buy kind of guy anyways. I give exact instructions of what we need and see how well she complies.

Never underestimate the value of a crisp fresh Grant or Blue Benjamin for expenses has on a college girl or recent grad - they think you are really generous and act accordingly. The ones who do not are either Escorts, Semi Pro Hookers, or Cougars with their own income or worse divorcees who hit the frivorce and alimony lottery which should all be ignored and nexted.

Deepdiver, can you get dates/bangs off modelmayhem? Do you have a profile there?

Post: #1271

Interesting comment about the mid 2015 lack of quality girls on dating sites. I've noticed the exact same thing. Made a comment to a buddy recently about how ugly the girls are on tinder and hinge recently. Used to be a plethora of hot quality girls, not anymore.

Post: #1272

Just another night =)

Post: #1273

Guys my brother lives in a very high end condo in Manhattan, In the Corintihian. But he is not into game and shit like that. Anyways I'm gonna be visiting him next month, I can borrow his car, he drives a Porsche Panamera, I'm gonna be staying with him I can definitely bring in some girls to his place when he is working. Do you think I can easily get lays like this? I'm 25 though... So definitely won't be looking like a sugar daddy. Should I put my real age and act like a trust fund baby instead?

The thing is I don't have the budget to treat these girls to $200 meals and other stuff like that, how can I get the bang without spending that much money?

Things I have in my disposal:
Awesome pad.
Porsche Panamera.
Above average looks


Should I just tell them to come to my condo for coffee?
But I can't break the bank. Any tips?

Post: #1274

Send them photos of the pad and the view after number closing. Get them to come straight over for a drink. If there is no view, just send them photos of the condo.

Lie about your age, say that you are 30. If they say "you sound and look young" tell them you eat healthy and exercise.

Post: #1275

(09-21-2015 07:23 AM)Turkish Republican Wrote:  Guys my brother lives in a very high end condo in Manhattan, In the Corintihian. But he is not into game and shit like that. Anyways I'm gonna be visiting him next month, I can borrow his car, he drives a Porsche Panamera, I'm gonna be staying with him I can definitely bring in some girls to his place when he is working. Do you think I can easily get lays like this? I'm 25 though... So definitely won't be looking like a sugar daddy. Should I put my real age and act like a trust fund baby instead?

The thing is I don't have the budget to treat these girls to $200 meals and other stuff like that, how can I get the bang without spending that much money?

Things I have in my disposal:
Awesome pad.
Porsche Panamera.
Above average looks


Should I just tell them to come to my condo for coffee?
But I can't break the bank. Any tips?

I didn't spend a dime this weekend . Fucked one girl in my car and the other went straight to my condo and I live a hour away from the city in a one bedroom condo .

Start gaming girls now and get there whatsapp and kik , say your work is moving you to new york and say a coworker is leasing you the place in Manhattan till you buy your own place . Every girl I meet is looking for a relationship with me because I tell them I'm saving for a new condo to buy in the city in the next couple months and I tell them I work 70 hours a week so it be nice to have a weekend girl I can netflix and chill with . They think it's amazing a young guy has his shit together.