@OrangeKnight. I find hipster white girl types to be the ones who want to try a black guy out the most amongst all the other subset type of white girls. They're also generally more open too. So you should do OK.
(09-14-2015 05:16 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: Thanks Archie, nice breakdown as always.
DiscoBoi - never assume.
Speaking from experience, the better looking girls that I have been with said they weren't into black guys or said no when I asked them. With what I said and my observant nature, most hot white girls are with white guys. In most cases, the girls that I want aren't naturally into black guys so I have to work harder but I have a system that works for me. I've also gamed with J Wayne (the black pua) before and we've talk about this, and he has the same experience too so I'm not just pulling things out of my butt.
This is really a moot point altogether and this, to be frank, is obvious and based on statistics.
Of course far more hot white girls will be with white guys; blacks in the US represent ~14% of the population in the nation. In other words, if 1 in 7 white girls are with a black man that represents a proportional amount. Account for various other factors, and 1 in 10 seems reasonable - not a statistical demonstration of black aversion by white females.
(09-14-2015 05:16 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: Thanks Archie, nice breakdown as always.
DiscoBoi - never assume.
Speaking from experience, the better looking girls that I have been with said they weren't into black guys or said no when I asked them. With what I said and my observant nature, most hot white girls are with white guys. In most cases, the girls that I want aren't naturally into black guys so I have to work harder but I have a system that works for me. I've also gamed with J Wayne (the black pua) before and we've talk about this, and he has the same experience too so I'm not just pulling things out of my butt.
This is really a moot point altogether and this, to be frank, is obvious and based on statistics.
Of course far more hot white girls will be with white guys; blacks in the US represent ~14% of the population in the nation. In other words, if 1 in 7 white girls are with a black man that represents a proportional amount. Account for various other factors, and 1 in 10 seems reasonable - not a statistical demonstration of black aversion by white females.
You can crunch numbers all day.
The truth is you either believe you can get hot bitches or you don't believe. There are a lot of dudes (black) who don't believe, a lot of this is because of programming and being brainwashed.
The matrix is set up so we don't get access to these girls. Your job is to find a way, if it were easy then we wouldn't be here.
I strongly suggest you listen to the Distant Light podcast and the Hence Incredible podcast, see what they have to say about this topic and what their mindset is.
Trust me, these guys are no different than you and I.
@Rawthentic. I'm not talking about statistics here. As I said, I asked these girls, so this is based off of my experience and many others that I've gamed with who have years of experience. Attractive white girls get approached a lot by all guys and when they have a guy, unsurprisingly it's a white guy since they in general (like with any race) strongly prefer their own, so it's not because they don't get approached enough by minorities. It's because things don't happen in a linear fashion. While blacks make 1/7 of the population doesn't mean that 1/7 are going to prefer a black guy. As I said, this preference isn't linear where you have to approach seven women to find one that prefers a black guy above her own but logarithmic where you have to approach 20 times that to find one that does. Overall, women get together with guys they like the most. This is especially true with girls that get hotter on the beauty scale since they can afford to be picky. Regardless of race, hot girls around here are with their own race.
Disco, rule number one is to never ever ever ask a lizard her opinion. Always watch her actions. I used to pipe a white lizard that really wasn't comfortable in being touchy with me in public. It wasn't until she realised I was even less inclined to show affection publicly that she became a bit more open. To the casual observer, it didn't seem like we were even porking. That particular interaction would have slipped by your statistics radar.
I am in a weird mood today so let me drop some game.
To Moma's point.
I have met girls who were very secretive about going on a date with them. White girls deep down think they are better than black men, society tells them this constantly.
I told one girl, that my parents probably wouldn't approve of me dating a white girl. The girls face dropped like I had insulted her dog, her obvious reply was "why?". By doing this I have shown her that she is no prize in my eyes, in a indirect way.
We dated for some time, dated as in having sex. She asked me down the road, "How come I don't look up to her". Funny now how she didn't leave, she hung around.
She even once stated that she doesn't believe in abortion as she was a catholic, we were having unprotected sex at the time. I was too stupid to realize if she got pregnant, she would have kept the kid.
We parted ways, but years later she came to England to visit me. No I didn't bang her.
I am not going to win every battle when it comes to trying to get girls. However, I will leave an impression that will more than likely go against what she thought about black guys.
check out the youtube video of white girls reaction to "I DONT DATE WHITE GIRLS"
awesome.
Here is another one "Are You Rejecting Me Because I'm Black?"
Here is another one on "racial cockblocking". Where somebody comes in to tell the white girls to not date him(the black guy), because he is black. Watch the reactions.
I think someone else posted these videos before, I hate them. What is he trying to prove?
I only watched the video of him hugging people, after 3 minutes it got on my nerves. Funny how most of the people that hugged him were Asian, they seem too want to hug him. The others did it out of obligation. Notice how quickly he says to one girl "is it because I am black".
He is a young guy, so I don't want to be hard on him. At least he probably making money from YouTube doing this schtick.
Its funny and sad at the same time, 2015 we are still talking race.
I would love to meet a lot of you guys and share stories, I have many I would like to tell.
Please don't post any more videos like these, we have seen them before.
(09-15-2015 03:22 PM)Moma Wrote: Disco, rule number one is to never ever ever ask a lizard her opinion. Always watch her actions. I used to pipe a white lizard that really wasn't comfortable in being touchy with me in public. It wasn't until she realised I was even less inclined to show affection publicly that she became a bit more open. To the casual observer, it didn't seem like we were even porking. That particular interaction would have slipped by your statistics radar.
I'm talking about my experiences after I've been with them, not before. I always ask afterwards. I happen to be in the right circumstance and came across one with a more open mentality but if they were given the choice, they would pick their own. Not saying a black guy can't pull but it's gonna require a combo of game, lots of approaching and luck (being in the right circumstances). I have a friend that looks like Bradley Cooper who has no game and all he does is drink while he has hot white women consistently wanting to sleep with him. The girls that I want aren't into black guys while I've seen these same girls aggressively pursue my friend that does nothing and I'm approaching, yet not getting much results. If you're gaming white girls that are into white guys, it should be common sense that it would be more difficult in the field then one that would prefer black guys. For me personally, I'm not into those types that prefer black guys as they are on the low quality side, so I spend most of my time going for the better quality whom prefers their own. So I just adapt and keep approaching. It's harder but everyone has the right to have a preference. Not everyone is going to be open to dating a certain type. I can accept that. I don't want to date Indian girls, so if some white girl isn't into black guys, I have no right to resent it. My only thing is some people should stop trying to prove getting white girls is possible. I know it is as I've already done so. The difference is the level of work compare to that of a white guy when gaming the type of girls I want. So either adapt or don't play the game.
Discoboi, we can't watch face. In the UK in my times, light skin mans were killing it. Do I complain about light skin mans and start bleaching or do I thank my genetics for having a healthy penis, the ability to stand upright independently and a mind to assess patterns and start making moves?
What about goofy white guys who don't get as much pussy as Bradley Cooper? What do they say?
Nuh watch face, the point is, it's possible. Expecting pussy to jump in your lap the same as others is unrealistic and a tad greedy. It's not easy for me but we must persevere.
Glossary:
Nuh watch face = Don't obsess over what you perceive others are doing to get what you want.
(09-15-2015 03:42 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: I am in a weird mood today so let me drop some game.
To Moma's point.
I have met girls who were very secretive about going on a date with them. White girls deep down think they are better than black men, society tells them this constantly.
I told one girl, that my parents probably wouldn't approve of me dating a white girl. The girls face dropped like I had insulted her dog, her obvious reply was "why?". By doing this I have shown her that she is no prize in my eyes, in a indirect way.
We dated for some time, dated as in having sex. She asked me down the road, "How come I don't look up to her". Funny now how she didn't leave, she hung around.
She even once stated that she doesn't believe in abortion as she was a catholic, we were having unprotected sex at the time. I was too stupid to realize if she got pregnant, she would have kept the kid.
We parted ways, but years later she came to England to visit me. No I didn't bang her.
I am not going to win every battle when it comes to trying to get girls. However, I will leave an impression that will more than likely go against what she thought about black guys.
I think this is a two way street. A lot of black guys often times are attracted to white girls just for the simple basis of them being white and see them as status symbols. I had this convo with a white friend of mine before of how we see so many high quality brothers, muscular, educated types settling for average to below average looking white girls just to say they have one. There are unattractive white girls that use their white factor to get black guys above them because they know they can. I'll occasionally see tall, athletic black men who appear to have their shit together with their arms around frumpy white girls who wouldn't be recognized by any halfway decent white guy.
(09-15-2015 01:20 AM)Agastya Wrote: Interestingly, I kept hooking up with black girls who claimed that they'd never gone for a black guy before, but I also kept meeting white girls who claimed that they really wanted to try one.
What type of white girls are you meeting since there are all sorts of type of white girls, just to get a better context here.
(09-15-2015 05:45 PM)Moma Wrote: Discoboi, we can't watch face. In the UK in my times, light skin mans were killing it. Do I complain about light skin mans and start bleaching or do I thank my genetics for having a healthy penis, the ability to stand upright independently and a mind to assess patterns and start making moves?
What about goofy white guys who don't get as much pussy as Bradley Cooper? What do they say?
Nuh watch face, the point is, it's possible. Expecting pussy to jump in your lap the same as others is unrealistic and a tad greedy. It's not easy for me but we must persevere.
Glossary:
Nuh watch face = Don't obsess over what you perceive others are doing to get what you want.
Agreed. My point was to show what the challenges are when going for the type of girls I want (hot white girls). It's harder and brutal sometimes but that's the field I wanted to play so I'm not complaining.
@Rudebwoy. Yes I have but I'm not sure what point you're getting at here man.
@OrangeKnight. They're mostly the subset that wants to try it. The quality is low so I generally keep my distance from these girls. They're generally around 4-6, hipstersh/liberal girls from places like the bay area, seattle, etc.
I agree with WIA and RUdeboy to stop worrying about race. It can really bog your mind down and it's a defeatist attitude. Plain and simple, bitches don't know what they like until they like it.
In this day and age worry more about having your shit together(school and finances), dressing with style and having good game. That will lead to more fruitful pulls from non black chicks and uppity black chicks than worrying about who's down with the brown.
@OrangeKnight: Those type of brothers I don't give one shit about. If you're a high quality dude, black or white, and settle for shit then you deserve to be with shit.
All this white girl like has me swiping left at them on Tinder more than ever before.
I couldn't agree more with Coverdoc. Ever since I've joined the forum, I've been focusing on my appearance and not worried about everything else. My notch count has gone up and the quality of girls that I've been with has gone up too.
I will say that being African-American, we're brainwashed and tend to worry about race when it comes to everything. Most of us at an early age are taught on where not to go and who not to interact with. I'm just now starting to understand this and break out of that mindset.
No matter what Archie, Moma or myself say, some guys will never be convinced about how to get white girls. Hot white girls are desired by many guys of all different races. In our society she is the pinnacle of beauty, we are constantly told.
The main point is what you are bringing to the table, why should she date you? Are you a guy that demonstrates DHV or a guy that cries because his white "friend" gets more girls than you. Are you a fun guy? Are you an interesting guy? Are you world travelled guy? What is the wildest thing you have done? Or are you another black guy on the block that wears Jordans!
We can discuss white girls on the podcast, if that is what you want. I know Moma doesn't deal with them unless they are "a layup".
Appearance matters, whether it be with women or at a job interview. In society we are more judged than anyone else, it isn't fair but that is how it is.
I am not trying to be rude, but we can complain or we can do something about it.
I'm sure whatever you want, you'll find it eventually, whether it's through your style, a niche, geoarbitrage, logistics., etc. Brothas are out here hustlin' global.
(09-16-2015 11:46 AM)rudebwoy Wrote: ^ Your post brings tears to me eyes. lol
No matter what Archie, Moma or myself say, some guys will never be convinced about how to get white girls. Hot white girls are desired by many guys of all different races. In our society she is the pinnacle of beauty, we are constantly told.
The main point is what you are bringing to the table, why should she date you? Are you a guy that demonstrates DHV or a guy that cries because his white "friend" gets more girls than you. Are you a fun guy? Are you an interesting guy? Are you world travelled guy? What is the wildest thing you have done? Or are you another black guy on the block that wears Jordans!
We can discuss white girls on the podcast, if that is what you want. I know Moma doesn't deal with them unless they are "a layup".
Appearance matters, whether it be with women or at a job interview. In society we are more judged than anyone else, it isn't fair but that is how it is.
I am not trying to be rude, but we can complain or we can do something about it.
Agreed. However I don't think there's been a guy that has said they can't get white girls (at least in the last few pges). The whole debate has been focused on about the difficulty level with pulling certain types of girls and how there is a difference in results that is out of your control relative to a equal white counterpart. Basically trying to bring awareness so others wont get confused with why their ROI is low or how they're not getting the results their game should dictate if they're gaming in fields where they're not favorable. Your results do improve with the better your game gets, whatever your current pulling rate is with white girls can be higher the better your game gets, the difference is that your ROI will be different even tho your game is the same or better, and that's not random luck. It doesn't mean you can't get results, it doesn't mean you shouldn't still put yourself out there, it doesn't mean you should make excuses.
Your last part, I wouldn't necessary say were judged more. Obviously there's prejudice between all races in general but there's also two sides to this as a lot of black guys perpetuate the stereotypes too. It's also easier for people to just label a person, take for example why a black "looks" more alpha then a white guy, not because of any scientific fact that they're more alpha but because of the depiction of movies where they're shown as some street thug or whatnot.
^I honestly don't know what you are trying to say. You sound like a few guys we had on here before who got banned, Rickywax is that you????
I don't think you have to bring awareness to the black men on this forum, WE all now gaming bitches in general is not easy. This is a game forum, we are sharing ideas.
You like others have talked about getting better results when your game improves, why don't you give us an example?
I am really not concerned about what a white guy is doing, like Moma said what about all the goofy white guys that are out there. Most dudes on this game forum are white, go to other threads and you will hear them complaining.
Speaking of the other threads, the black dudes who are overseas seem to be having a much better time of it compared to the U.S. I haven't heard one of them complain yet. Check out the thread in the travel section - https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-1964.html (Best Countries for Black American guys)
Again, not trying to be rude but you are talking in circles.
What I think he's trying to say is that while continuing to work on your game, you will inevitably get better results then when you have no game but it will still take more effort/work than for a white dude getting the same hot white girls all else being equal. One friend of mine is a black dude that's not into black girls at all physically and can't relate to them culturally simply due to his own upbringing and surroundings. He's been with more white girls and had more girlfriends by far than the average white guy but just had to put more work into it. But the thing about that too though is that he has to approach high volume and can't necessarily have his pick of the women or get the top of the line white girls that he's interested in even though he can get a pretty decent result and more results than his white peers. If his white peer/friends though went out and put in his type of volume/effort however, they would be probably be absolutely crushing and having options out the ass.