Euronews, France24, YahooNews, and AFP are all lying and saying the anti-migrant protest in Warsaw had only 300 people. I've been to many concerts, I know what 300 people looks like, and there are clearly thousands in the streets. They also all claim that these are "far right" wingers, even though the majority of people in Poland are opposed to letting the migrants in. NONE of my friends here are "right-wingers", and they are all opposed to this.

BBC reported accurately on the number of people protesting, but also called protesters "radical right wingers."

The level of propaganda is insane. I'm starting to believe there is NO real journalism. Reporting, lying with such an agenda is completely against everything media and journalism stands for. Just check out the photos Mike Chernovich tweeted to get the real story in Hungary, for example.

I recommend everybody call out these news outlets on their lies on social media. Email them, tweet at them, blog about it. Don't let them get away with this.

I really hope Hungary putting their foot down is the real deal. Our only hope is if something radical happens here in EE - deportations of illegals, shooting them at the border, anything to start a push back against the elites in the EU.

In the meantime, thousands are in the streets in London in pro-migration protests. The western Europeans are fucking nuts. If they hate European values so much, why don't THEY move to Syria or Iraq? Let us live in peace with our European neighbors, not Islamic invaders.

(09-12-2015 09:09 AM)Libertas Wrote:  At any rate, a crucial time is coming up, because I do expect that winter will dry the crossings up somewhat. The ones on the fence will probably wait until the next spring. We can expect to see maybe another month, month and a half of the big time crossings and then the cold weather will set in and slow them down a bit.
Those winter months will be crucial for Europe to get its act together, and we need to be proactive on our own end.

Unfortunately, Winter on the Mediterranean sea, is not a harsh Winter. The illegal migrants will still be able to (easily) cross the sea, except maybe from mid-December till the end of January...

As to "The ones on the fence", well, coincidentally right before your post I was writing about Ceuta and Melilla, so, 2 pics for you (and no, it isn't from the zombie war movie with Brad Pitt, it is real-life images from Ceuta: Sub-Saharan migrants climbing the fences to enter the EU):





Which proves one thing: an efficient border fence must have, behind it, military officers and soldiers, obviously authorized to do their job: that is, authorized to open fire (starting with warning shots). The fence itself is not enough, if no military forces are stationed behind it, close by...

And, look closely at the first picture, notice how all these young sub-Saharan men are... tough. Strong and battle-hardened tough. I mean, they've just crossed half a dry, wild and dangerous continent on foot, and still have the strength to climb, barefuckinfoot, a tall fence, not caring about their bleeding feet on the barbed wire.

So, why do I care?, what does it mean for me? It means, I might and will see (some of) them someday in the Parisian metro, where they (almost) all end up... And (given that they will have no money, no job, nothing to do all day) if they "ask" for my cell phone or wallet, well... I do practice martial arts, but I'm telling you, I'll probably give my wallet like a bloody leftist.

That's why these illegal Sub-Saharan migrants especially worry me. There is no jobs for them (for anybody actually), so what will they do? Logically, many of them will resort to stealing and mugging, or trafficking. And then, who will stop them, in a street fight? You, me? Look at them, would you stand up and fight, if they mugged you in the metro? (and remember that we cannot carry weapons in Europe).

So, actually I respect their will and resilience, their fight for a (perceived) better life in Western Europe, but... at the same time, I clearly see the danger they would and will represent, idle and broke, disappointed and therefore angry in the streets of our European cities...

(09-13-2015 04:08 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL.

So what exactly is so funny about that? Where are you from? I used to be pretty liberal, left-leaning in my naive teens. Then I started seeing what was happening to my country and anyone who hasn't gone completely cuck has no choice but to become nationalist. It doesn't mean I'm completely against immigration or that I hate foreigners or that I want some extreme shit to happen. I just want my country to stay as glorious as it is and it is obvious that multiculturalism has gone too far and cultural marxism is ruining what used to be a country that people wanted to live in. Europe was always white and even though I still do believe, that some immigration is in fact culturally enriching, it should still remain white overall. Over 10% foreigners starts getting problematic, over 20% and you're on a one-way lane towards decline(*).

They are turning this continent from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS04dhgKQqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yVuvcA6gpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8xMvvVQk0

into this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfKf3r161cQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2c2VGojpj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-QX8LuKHA

It's a fucking tragedy. So spare me your arrogant ridicule.

Edit: (*) Because in such numbers they have no need to integrate/assimilate anymore. They just have their parallel societies and since they are more radical and have more kids, they start spreading their conflicting views more and more and replace the Europeans and their values.

(09-12-2015 07:23 PM)iop890 Wrote:  This just in, female politician is power-hungry cunt, news at 11!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...ation.html

Fuck.

If they get an army you may very well be looking at a US civil war situation that I said was unlikely.

This is even more dangerous than the "migrants." It needs to be stopped now.

(09-13-2015 08:05 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Unfortunately, Winter on the Mediterranean sea, is not a harsh Winter. The illegal migrants will still be able to (easily) cross the sea, except maybe from mid-December till the end of January...

I had heard that the crossings stopped significantly from December - March and picked up in April.

A couple of 5.56 rounds would stop those illegals on the fence, although that fence looks a bit porous. They need a Trump-style wall.

Unbelievable. It looks like those cops are a welcoming committee rather than a defensive force.

I'd heard Hungary has authorized its troops and cops to use live ammunition should it be necessary starting on the 15th. Let's hope they don't pussy out.

(09-13-2015 08:09 AM)Requiem Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 04:08 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL.

So what exactly is so funny about that? Where are you from? I used to be pretty liberal, left-leaning in my naive teens. Then I started seeing what was happening to my country and anyone who hasn't gone completely cuck has no choice but to become nationalist. It doesn't mean I'm completely against immigration or that I hate foreigners or that I want some extreme shit to happen. I just want my country to stay as glorious as it is and it is obvious that multiculturalism has gone too far and cultural marxism is ruining what used to be a country that people wanted to live in. Europe was always white and even though I still do believe, that some immigration is in fact culturally enriching, it should still remain white overall. Over 10% foreigners starts getting problematic, over 20% and you're on a one-way lane towards decline(*).

They are turning this continent from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS04dhgKQqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yVuvcA6gpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8xMvvVQk0

into this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfKf3r161cQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2c2VGojpj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-QX8LuKHA

It's a fucking tragedy. So spare me your arrogant ridicule.

Edit: (*) Because in such numbers they have no need to integrate/assimilate anymore. They just have their parallel societies and since they are more radical and have more kids, they start spreading their conflicting views more and more and replace the Europeans and their values.

Incredibly terrifying video footage. When is the 'cradle of modern civilization' gonna put aside its leftist agenda and take action to save its beautiful heritage? When will these problems be talked about for real rather than being labelled a racist left right and center.

I was at Kulturnatten in Uppsala yesterday evening, almost not a single hint of Swedish culture, mostly immigrant cultures doing their dances and their songs. Truly a shame.

I get that some say the Europeans have brought this upon themselves, the immigrants simply made use of an easy oppurtunity. Still, is passiveness and a bit of ego really enough to make an entire continent erode away to Muslim parasites? Also, apparently they breed like rabbits, quite the long-term strategy.

Some news from Czech republic:

Our PM again denied the migrant quotas.
Whole government is together against the quota.
Czech PM says it is impossible to accept migrant quotas

Czech PM Sobotka says impossible to accept migrant quotas

If EU forces CZ and other V4 countries to accept quotas, hell will break lose
It was once here, in 1938, when something was decided and negotiated "About us, without us"
Munich Agreement

Western Betrayal

Read this stuff, interesting part of our history.

EDIT: Regarding the protest in Poland.
Yesterday, there was a demonstration against immigrants at Wenceslass square at Prague.
There was a large group of anti-immigrant protestors (1000 and more) And there was also a counter-demonstration of SJWs that support immigration (10-100 protestors). But guess what is in the media? Only pictures of pro immigrant demonstration.

An anti-immigrant demonstration also took place in Bratislava (Slovakia). Also 1000 and more.


PICS:Pictures of protests in prague

There's an acquaintance on Facebook that's more or less a Czech SJW that's going absolutely ballistic over this and calling everyone intolerant, racists, xenophobic and so on. Your PM really struck a nerve.

Hold on tight, Czech Republic!

So more updates from what I would call as one of Europes final frontiers.
I call it by that name because I live the place that is furthest away from the Mediterrian Sea in Europe. I turned my blind eye to this for a long time and just shook it off as another story in the news.. Until the disease finally spread to my hood.

I mean, if we got refugees here in these densly populated forests,the rest of Europe must be fucked.

So this week more and more refugees show up.
Most noticeable thing that happened this weekend that shocked a lot of people was that somebody went to a agricultural school at night and butchered all the lambs, took the meat and left the animal carcasses lying in the sun on the grass. And of course only one newspaper reported about it, but the comment section was closed. Also someone broke into a restaurant, took all valueable things except...alcohol.

Might not sound as much, but stuff like this have never happened here before within these small and peaceful communities up North.

Not trying to sound as a bitch but damn.. Things are getting out of hand here in Europe, even in the most distant corners.

And the winter is coming. Within a month there will most likely be minus degrees on daily basis here.

(09-13-2015 09:33 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  There's an acquaintance on Facebook that's more or less a Czech SJW that's going absolutely ballistic over this and calling everyone intolerant, racists, xenophobic and so on. Your PM really struck a nerve.

Hold on tight, Czech Republic!

For every SJW flipping out on social media there are 1000 angry (or soon to be) nationalists. Remember the silent majority.

OK, looks like we have reached some level of Ground Zero here in Germany.

During the last 2 weeks "Refugees Welcome" was all over the mainstream news and press, but this weekend more and more authorities are saying they're walking on their last legs, all of a sudden of course. The mayor of Munich/Bavaria, which is the central invasion hub, says they have rising trouble housing these immigrants.

There is a lot of subtle assignment of guilt and political blackmailing going on right now. Bavaria wants to transfer more people to other states but the answer is mostly: "We're doing more than enough!"

As I'm writing this there is news Germany will introduce border controls at the austrian border, an official statement from the government is expected. Next week will be very interesting.

(09-13-2015 04:08 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL. I will be waiting for Obama to suspend US elections while the US military invades Europe.

And there it is, the big white racist boogeyman. How dare whites even talk about something that is affecting them, their cultures, their peoples, their societies, their ways of life? They're obviously nazis.

(09-13-2015 08:48 AM)Libertas Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 08:05 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Unfortunately, Winter on the Mediterranean sea, is not a harsh Winter. The illegal migrants will still be able to (easily) cross the sea, except maybe from mid-December till the end of January...

I had heard that the crossings stopped significantly from December - March and picked up in April.

A couple of 5.56 rounds would stop those illegals on the fence, although that fence looks a bit porous. They need a Trump-style wall.

Unbelievable. It looks like those cops are a welcoming committee rather than a defensive force.

I'd heard Hungary has authorized its troops and cops to use live ammunition should it be necessary starting on the 15th. Let's hope they don't pussy out.

I had heard that the crossings stopped significantly from December - March and picked up in April.

That was last year. So yes, last year from December - March there were less crossings, but this year, the migrants sense urgency, and will keep on coming. I mean, it's not like the Mediterranean shores are frozen in Winter or something... this sea is always quite easy to navigate, in Summer but also in Winter. You just need a motor and any old boat... And a better pilot than the drowned-boy's father (do you know that this criminal was actually the pilot of the boat?)

Unbelievable. It looks like those cops are a welcoming committee rather than a defensive force.

I'd say you are a bit unfair here. Those cops are Spaniards. They are no sissies. But their hands are tied. They try everything within the law to fight off the sub-Saharans. But, given that they can not use their firearms.... what could they do?

In any case, do not mistake Spanish or Italian cops (top macho level) with French or English cops (medium macho level) or German cops (zero macho level).

I'd heard Hungary has authorized its troops and cops to use live ammunition should it be necessary starting on the 15th. Let's hope they don't pussy out.

I have the same hope. Soldiers have to do their job! They get paid to do their job, which is (and has been for centuries and centuries) to shoot at invaders and security-threats. To shoot, not to stand by and watch and .

I mean, if a modern soldier's job is, to stand by and peacefully watch and hand out free food and smile, then let's give the job to our grand-mothers, and write The End at the bottom of Europe's history books!

(09-13-2015 09:11 AM)PduJ Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 08:09 AM)Requiem Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 04:08 AM)nomadicdude Wrote:  This thread has some serious white nationalist LOL.

So what exactly is so funny about that? Where are you from? I used to be pretty liberal, left-leaning in my naive teens. Then I started seeing what was happening to my country and anyone who hasn't gone completely cuck has no choice but to become nationalist. It doesn't mean I'm completely against immigration or that I hate foreigners or that I want some extreme shit to happen. I just want my country to stay as glorious as it is and it is obvious that multiculturalism has gone too far and cultural marxism is ruining what used to be a country that people wanted to live in. Europe was always white and even though I still do believe, that some immigration is in fact culturally enriching, it should still remain white overall. Over 10% foreigners starts getting problematic, over 20% and you're on a one-way lane towards decline(*).

They are turning this continent from this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hS04dhgKQqY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yVuvcA6gpc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_8xMvvVQk0

into this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfKf3r161cQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2c2VGojpj4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ-QX8LuKHA

It's a fucking tragedy. So spare me your arrogant ridicule.

Edit: (*) Because in such numbers they have no need to integrate/assimilate anymore. They just have their parallel societies and since they are more radical and have more kids, they start spreading their conflicting views more and more and replace the Europeans and their values.

Incredibly terrifying video footage. When is the 'cradle of modern civilization' gonna put aside its leftist agenda and take action to save its beautiful heritage? When will these problems be talked about for real rather than being labelled a racist left right and center.

I was at Kulturnatten in Uppsala yesterday evening, almost not a single hint of Swedish culture, mostly immigrant cultures doing their dances and their songs. Truly a shame.

I get that some say the Europeans have brought this upon themselves, the immigrants simply made use of an easy oppurtunity. Still, is passiveness and a bit of ego really enough to make an entire continent erode away to Muslim parasites? Also, apparently they breed like rabbits, quite the long-term strategy.

This is the same as the Great Migration in the US from the early to mid 1900's. We had the the space to create suburbs, though.

What can the Spanish cops do?

Do they hold them and process their claims and deport them later of what?

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(09-13-2015 10:16 AM)Libertas Wrote:  What can the Spanish cops do?

Do they hold them and process their claims and deport them later of what?

They can not deport them once these migrants have set foot on any European piece of land. (the cops sometimes use water pumps to try to stop them from climbing the fence)

They have to process their phony asylum requests.

After 3 years in the courts, most asylum cases get denied (or not, it's lottery time and most judges are SJWs), but by then, how are you going to find the migrant, and even if you do find him, there is a (rather new, 3 years old) EU law that forbids detaining anybody for "lack of visa" issues. Yes, you read it right. European police can stop you and ask for papers, but if there is no suspicion that you just committed a serious crime, they cannot hold you in jail to check your ID papers... I know, I know, it is the Twilight Zone.

So, basically, migrants know that once they set foot in Western Europe, there will be no legal or practical way ever to deport them... Statistics tell, that for 100 cases of migrants denied asylum, just one or two are actually caught and brought to a plane.

And do you know that once in handcuffs inside the plane, half of these (not so) unlucky migrants actually succeed in preventing the plane from taking off! Oh yes! They shout and shout and wriggle and cry, until the pilot, if he is a SJW, comes out of the cabin and says to the cops : "By law I am the only person in charge here, I refuse to take on this unruly passenger, get him outside of the plane". And so the migrant is disembarked and set free... Twilight Zone Libertas, Twilight Zone!

This all shows Europe become too tolerant, unable to fight. Might is right is alive and well.

(09-13-2015 10:16 AM)Libertas Wrote:  What can the Spanish cops do?

Do they hold them and process their claims and deport them later of what?

Well, they send them to a temporary reception centre but unfortunately they can't do much. The migrants throw rocks at the Moroccan authorities because they're the only ones allowed to do something (although to be fair, they go too far); our boys have basically been told to stand down by the European Commission et al.

Germany has seemingly suspended Schengen and urged other European countries to do the same! Have they seen the light? It seems it was because they were becoming overcrowded.

(09-13-2015 11:08 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Germany has seemingly suspended Schengen and urged other European countries to do the same! Have they seen the light? It seems it was because they were becoming overcrowded.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/se...y-measures

Wow, this is pretty big news, but not surprising, reality always wins over ideology and in this case reality is moving at the rate of 10.000+ people a day into Germany.

I've been really disillusioned recently though going through Facebook. It's full of people posting 'look at me I have so much compassion' one liners and getting hundreds of likes, while no one who is realistic really wants to join the debate.

I've noticed that all these pro-refugee people are public employees, students and unemployed people. My guess is most Europeans like me don't yet want to take part because we have jobs and businesses where we can't really afford a shitstorm.

I also see a significant overlap in feminists and these pro-refugee people. I feel like the divisions are being made clear by the day. Leftism in all it's ugly destructive glory gathering all around socialism, feminism and multi-culturalism.

Don't like this situation at all. I have a strong sense that Europe is breaking in two and that the public employee feminist types are very strongly in one camp and the pro-liberty private sector people in the other. Could get ugly. My guess is that the leftists will feel the consequences first though as they lack risk assesment and live in urban locals.

If Germany can just unilaterally suspend EU rules when it suits them, why can't Spain and other places do the same and start deporting the dregs?

Quote:Hungary’s prime minister, Viktor Orbán, has blamed Berlin for the crisis, and Merkel’s decision to open Germany’s borders. Budapest is racing to complete a fence on its border with Serbia, where 4,330 people crossed on Saturday. On Tuesday, it introduces tough laws which make crossing the border punishable with jail.

Of course Berlin is to blame for the crisis.

Meanwhile more Nazi analogies on Hungary but I think it's really starting to wear thin. A tipping point is being reached.

Quote:Faymann suggested that if no consensus was reached on Monday in Brussels, Germany and its allies could try to force through a vote on quotas with a qualified majority. He also warned that Austria and Germany – both net contributors to the EU budget – would consider sanctions against countries stubbornly refusing to share the refugee burden.

This might include axing some EU structural funds from which “east European states profit most of all”, Faymann said. As well as quotas, Juncker’s proposal includes establishing hotspots at EU frontiers, including Greece and Italy, where refugees can be registered under a unitary system.

The EU is so democratic, guys.

And is this Juncker character really this stupid? He's making a huge fuss over 165,000 "refugees" when that's just a drop in the bucket to what's come and what is going to come?

Any talk on *finally* implementing Australia's policy?

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(09-13-2015 11:32 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  Merkel got a call from German embassy in Pakistan, saying that they had issued 1 million visas for Pakistanis wanting to go to Europe.

1 million.

Source?

The Guardian (yes, that fucking newspaper) has described Munich as 'close to humanitarian disaster'.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/se...als-munich

(09-13-2015 11:32 AM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  Merkel got a call from German embassy in Pakistan, saying that they had issued 1 million visas for Pakistanis wanting to go to Europe.

1 million.

?
Source???
How would that even work?

p.s. hahaha now there are 3 of us flabbergasted guys asking for sources. Cough it up man.