(09-08-2015 04:25 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  And then you have this madness: British Jihadi deaths

People are actually calling the British government on legal grounds as to whether they should have killed these murderers. The BBC even did a Treyvon Martin "oh he is a good boy" picture scenario showing them in happy poses around western friends and influences and not the traditional Jihadi garb.

Confirmed terrorists have more rights than law abiding citizens and more bleeding hearts than victims of mass murdering psychopaths.

I have little faith anything will counter this.

I'm usually with you buddy, but here I have to disagree.

I don't personally believe a passport makes you British, and as far as I'm concerned these shit stains were alien combatants. There's no such thing as a British Jihadi, or a British Muslim - we are a Christian country, with a Christian tradition, much like the rest of Europe. I have no problem with Muslim's (or any other peoples) living here in small numbers, provided they defer to our customs and way of life - if they are here for the long term that means putting their religion after their (our) country. There are many good, wise and peaceful people of all colours an denominations - a fact this forum is often testament to.

However, this is not the world we live in, and to be a British citizen, however cheaply that denomination is given away by our government, is to be accorded all the rights and due processes of the law. Our country has the finest legal tradition of any in the world, and is responsible for much of the most important law underpinning many of the free-est countries in the world. One of the most important and most enduring protections afforded by the English legal tradition, and dating back to Magna Carta, is the protection against the abuses of the state. If we allow our governments to ride rough shod over these freedoms, and execute 'British citizens' on the basis that they present an 'imminent threat' to the nation, what is to stop them coming for you or I, in time, because our views are at odds with theirs. It's the old thing of 'First they came for the Jihadists, and I said nothing, because I was not one. Then they came for the anarchists, and I said nothing, because I was not an anarchist... ... and then they came for me, and noone was left to speak in my defence'.

Whilst I am perfectly glad these two were eradicated, the way in which it was done sets a dangerous precedent for the use of force against citizens who stand in opposition to the state. To me, this is one of the grossest and most frightening abuses of power I have seen in my lifetime. I hope the government are held to account and prosecuted for it (will not happen).

'whitenatalia' from an anti Roosh V stormfront thread is Andre the Gypsy.. that's the funniest story I've heard in a while Roosh, I wasn't expecting that, lol.

I completely agree with what was said earlier about having to defend yourself from the label of racism.

If you don't care about the label, then it has no power. If you try to prove your 'non-racism' then you give it meaning while you waste precious words and time and you will lose the argument. I like the agree and amplify tactic Phoenix. Maybe you could tell them about how high up you are in the KKK as well.

I feel the same way about saying "I don't hate immigrants, I hate the people who let this happen." Again should we care about saying this? is there any point to it?

I care about some immigrants.. but when they act rude and entitled, and people treat them like celebrities while being careful not to offend them by showing them too much female flesh, then I stop caring. It's like if a beggar aggressively asking you for money, then calling you a prick for not giving him enough. I don't feel sorry for that guy even if he genuinely has had bad luck in his life, fuck him.

Now with them bringing terrorists and making aggressive gestures at cameras, I feel like this is a full on act of war now, I hope more people realise that this is a war, so we can fight back. The only correct response to that is to make an example of him ISIS style, then they might think twice about what they're doing.

I acknowledge that argument but we are living in a world which on one hand wants to crack down on Islamic fundamentalism but on the other we destroy countries that allow them to fester.

We are beyond the point of whether it should be legal to drone these guys. I don't play into the mountain men conspiracy theorists in the USA who are just waiting for drone strikes on US citizens.

I'm sure the state has plenty more options than bombing their own citizens with a drone strike. Tom Clancy has a book about this in some form.

Seeing as British citizenry is handed out like confetti I think we should suspend the British citizen from those who seek to kill others. Once you cross that line you should be targeted by the state regardless of where you reside.

Trigger Warning: Polish member of European Parliament calls migrants 'Human Trash" which triggers some women in the crowd

(09-08-2015 06:03 PM)komatiite Wrote:  


Trigger Warning: Polish member of European Parliament calls migrants 'Human Trash" which triggers some women in the crowd

(09-08-2015 06:03 PM)komatiite Wrote:  


Trigger Warning: Polish member of European Parliament calls migrants 'Human Trash" which triggers some women in the crowd

"Socialism kills!"

Hahaha, give this man an award !!!

By the way the bitch who got triggered @0:58 is german politican Ska Keller from the Green Party, crazy leftists most of them. Her real name is Franziska, but she insists on being called "Ska" because it sounds more gender neutral.

Diversity Enrichment Update:

In Hungary, the Million Migrant March begins in earnest, as peaceful Muslims delicately stroll down the train tracks, tossing Multiculturalism Education Packages at the Nazis in the observation deck




Refugees thank Germany for their Kindness in Subdued, Relaxing Train Conversation




Greek man claims his 'people' have inhabited Lesbos for 1000 years, but clearly needs to get educated in the fundamentals of Diversity






In New Zealand, a potentially Racist politician has said that NZ should only take Women and Children, while oppressively stating that Young Men should stay behind and defend their homeland

What's wrong with the Germans why do they have a bunch of short haired bitches running everything? Where's the pride?

USA hasn't sunk this low we won't let Hillary win.

I can't believe I haven't fucking mentioned this.

As a matter of fact, it's a time I'd say I dun goofed. Maybe because I'm so enraged about this.

Though I don't give much of a damn about the "refugee" versus "migrant" distinction in this dire situation, I have actually worked with genuine refugees in the past, including from Iraq.

This was back in the first half of 2010, so before the latest mess started, but these kids were fleeing from conflict zones, including Iraq. What were these people like?

I'll tell you what they were like. These people were fucking scared shitless. These people were extremely grateful to be in the U.S. They were deferential, extremely polite, and couldn't quite believe that they were in such an affluent area. They were elated at anything they were being given. A few of them were calling me "sir." I was all of 22 years old at the time. And no, it wasn't a cockfest. There was a fairly even distribution between males and females.

These people are not acting like refugees should act, that I know based on my own personal experiences working with actual refugees. These people are bratty, entitled, rude, and genuine trash. These people are not frightened, like a real refugee should be, even in Europe. The people I worked with were frightened as hell even though the place was in the heart of Midtown Manhattan, right across the street from the Chrysler Building.

TL;DR, the real refugees I worked with were very respectful and I would say good people at heart, elated at the opportunity they were given and very, very respectful to their hosts. These people are trash. They aren't acting like refugees should act because they are not refugees. They are opportunistic invaders. Simple as that.

By the way, did anyone else hear about the incident that may have been the act of the Greek coast guard?

One of these boat's engines was shot by a mysterious vessel and the boat was towed back to Turkey. The media tried their absolute best to make the people on board the boat look like angels, but it was the usual story - they were living not affluently, but completely safely, in Turkey for some time.

The Greeks aren't confirming or denying anything, but other vessels were also stopped in this way. We may be seeing the start of the reaction.

(09-08-2015 06:30 PM)komatiite Wrote:  Refugees thank Germany for their Kindness in Subdued, Relaxing Train Conversation

That's actually a fake video title. The video is, if I remember correctly, from 2010 and displays a muslim screaming in a french subway. You can still find reuploads like this:

(09-08-2015 06:57 PM)Brodiaga Wrote:  

There's obviously still some money left on that E.U. money tree.

Look at that owner of that mercedes driving around town all brazen and privileged and not carjacked, kidnapped/ransomed, and robbed blind yet.

(09-08-2015 06:39 PM)UncleSam Wrote:  

(09-08-2015 06:30 PM)komatiite Wrote:  Refugees thank Germany for their Kindness in Subdued, Relaxing Train Conversation

That's actually a fake video title. The video is, if I remember correctly, from 2010 and displays a muslim screaming in a french subway. You can still find reuploads like this:

Haha, dammit I was fooled! Let us pray that the new batch of migrants are much more relaxed!

(09-08-2015 07:17 PM)komatiite Wrote:  Haha, dammit I was fooled! Let us pray that the new batch of migrants are much more relaxed!

Yeah, I noticed right away they were dressed for winter.

(09-06-2015 02:47 PM)mrbiggs Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 02:19 PM)Artist Wrote:  A lot of xenophobia in the air in here !

Giving that these Nato countries are regularly either bombing directly the very home countries of these refugees, or instigating these armed conflicts/ supplying weapons and financing the pursuit of the war .. Having to allow in few thousands amongst the 11 million delocated poor folks fleeing their homes is about nothing !
Turkey has massive refugee camps and took over 2 million, Iran and jordan aswell are letting huge numbers in.
Please inform yourselves well instead of just criticizing, also, Syrians are very hard working, open minded and overwhelming people and have always been, imo they will do more benefit than harm the society. Diversity my friends, learn to live with it.

I agree that the reason for the current mass migration of Syrians and people from Afghanistan can be attributed, unfortunately, to U.S./NATO invasion and subsequent destabilization of their nations. Our politicians are absolutely corrupt and at the mercy of an extremely power military industrial complex and, until recently, an extremely powerful Israeli lobby. These elements combined with an apathetic population completely divorced from what its military is doing abroad allows war-makers to behave with impunity.

I have said this in other posts, I do not have issue with the migrants themselves, they are merely fungible pawns in a much larger power play. There has been documented and conspicuously stated intentions of engineering mass migration for the sole purposes of dissolving the native populations' political power in their own homelands. These people have been force-fed decades of propaganda via their media, academia, governmental, NGO, and business elites. They have been told that this is an organically occurring phenomenon and that they have nothing to fear. They were told that this wasn't even up for discussion and that, in essence, had better keep their mouths shut less they be branded xenophobic (as you have done), racist, etc. The folk of Europe were never given any say as to what they think a reasonable migration policy should look like and how it can benefit the native people AND the migrants themselves.

However, in the current situation and given the profoundly blatant propaganda and the outright betrayal of their own elected officials combined with economic realities, people are now saying enough is enough. Beneath the silence of people not wanting to be called xenophobic is a seething cauldron of justifiable resentment; not necessarily at the migrants per se, but at their own governments, institutions, and the new globo-corporatist regime that the average European lives under. A native German, Swede, Brit, Hungarian now sees that the institutions and governments that were supposed to protect him and his family have actually been facilitating his own destruction and that of his offspring and of the nation his ancestors carved out for him on this Earth.

Your average European/Westerner has now said enough is enough and wants a voice. I can guarantee you that your average European/Westerner would never wish ill-will on any migrant and would be more than willing to help. However, the globo-corporate elite and their governmental/beaureaucratic and media lapdogs and their ANTIFA footsoldiers have been quashing any dissent in order to bring about this brave new world.

They have heard your insolent statement of "diversity, learn to live with it" for far too long and are now seeing the actual realities that come from this asymmetrical imposition of diversity.

With all disrespect Artist, go fuck yourself.

Correct. Not at all organic. Some seriously manipulated shit going on. Who benefits and who is trying to break the Europeans?

(09-08-2015 06:37 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I can't believe I haven't fucking mentioned this.


Though I don't give much of a damn about the "refugee" versus "migrant" distinction in this dire situation, I have actually worked with genuine refugees in the past, including from Iraq.

This was back in the first half of 2010, so before the latest mess started, but these kids were fleeing from conflict zones, including Iraq. What were these people like?

I'll tell you what they were like. These people were fucking scared shitless. These people were extremely grateful to be in the U.S. They were deferential, extremely polite, and couldn't quite believe that they were in such an affluent area.
TL;DR, the real refugees I worked with were very respectful and I would say good people at heart, elated at the opportunity they were given and very, very respectful to their hosts. These people are trash. They aren't acting like refugees should act because they are not refugees. They are opportunistic invaders. Simple as that.

Same with me. I served in the military during the Kosovo/Yugoslavian war. Back then there were some refugees, albeit a small amount compared to now, who crossed the borders to Austria, Hungary etc.

Most of those guys we caught were families, which makes sense - a father grabs wife and kids, some bare essentials and runs. They were scared and were putting up no resistance as we escorted them to the base. Back then basically all of them received refugee status. The current guys behave differently.

Here some funny stories:





Some actual Syrian refugees - a few dozen - who were accepted in Uruguay demand to be shipped back to Lebanon by the UN, since they find the conditions there untenable.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-0...601197.htm

Even the Washingtonpost puts up a somewhat amused article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/eur...1661934214

A migrant offers this opinion in the article:

Quote:“Germany is the best in Europe. France is no good, you cannot get language classes there, but in Germany you can learn the language for free.” Although Sweden is offering similar aid, he said it was “too far away, it is very cold, and it is always night there.”

France is no good. Sweden is too cold. And those bloody Europeans are not sending enough buses.





Here a good take on the situation by Paul Joseph Watson.

By the way - the Polish MP above is a strict libertarian, so of course he would cut all social security completely. Nevertheless he is right about the financial sugar that is attracting them all. What is new this time is that those EU traitors go through with it and accept so many.

Are their other European forums that are discussing this crisis as intently as we are?

I'm starting to get the feeling that the majority of Western Europeans are on board with multiculturalism and would attack us strongly if we attempt to white knight for them.

Look at these Dutchmen singing welcome songs to refugees at the airport: https://videos.files.wordpress.com/Yq73w...es_dvd.mp4

10,000 Icelanders offer to house Syrian refugees: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-call.html

Western Europe seems too far gone to be saved, especially since the people don't seem to want to be saved. Only Eastern Europe has a chance, but even then, the nationalists are a small percentage of the population. Just the other day a Polish girl said how gay marriage is good, and she goes to church every Sunday.

In other words, I want to see some action that the European people are trying to save themselves. Otherwise, why put much energy to get involved? I'll grab the popcorn instead.

Putin is going to end up building a wall with Trump where the Berlin Wall used to be, guarded with bears after Western Europe becomes New Meccastan.

^Check out the comments to some recent Economist articles on immigration. The most popular comments are anti-immigration, or at least anti-welfare tourism. The articles themselves are the usual globalist/upper class propaganda, but at least they allow healthy debate in their comments section.
One recent example:
http://www.economist.com/news/europe/216...t-comments

(09-08-2015 06:30 PM)Travesty Wrote:  What's wrong with the Germans why do they have a bunch of short haired bitches running everything? Where's the pride?

My psychologist mate has lived in Hamburg for 28 months or so. His observation is there's a suffocating cloud of cultural shame that hangs over the German people because of their past, and, as such, they're deeply-self-loathing and will seek self-destruction of both themselves and German Culture because of it. For example, he's said he's horrified by his gay clients indifference to not only their sexual health, but the consequences of spreading disease to others through extremely-risky sexual behaviour.

On one hand, he said it's a great game advantage for guys like him and me who look dangerous enough to offer women the self-destruction they secretly-crave but makes any kind of long-term relationship too dysfunctional to be worth it.

He could be talking out of his arse, but he always strikes me as a very insightful guy when it comes to human motivation.

One of the reasons he was raving about Hamburg was the lack of cultural diversity - something I noticed in the wealthier surroundings whilst there - but he's been in a dark mood watching the news over the last few days, and mentioned to me last night that he'll probably hand in his notice and return back to Oz full time.

Since mainstream culture is trying to normalise White Self-Loathing to the degree he's observed in Germany, I can see us both drifting back into the subcultures we both escaped from as kids: me seeking strength through bonds of MC Brotherhood, and him drifting back to the White Power culture of his toxic family. I'm hoping it won't come to that for him.

(09-08-2015 07:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Are their other European forums that are discussing this crisis as intently as we are?

I'm starting to get the feeling that the majority of Western Europeans are on board with multiculturalism and would attack us strongly if we attempt to white knight for them.

Look at these Dutchmen singing welcome songs to refugees at the airport: https://videos.files.wordpress.com/Yq73w...es_dvd.mp4

10,000 Icelanders offer to house Syrian refugees: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-call.html

...

In other words, I want to see some action that the European people are trying to save themselves. Otherwise, why put much energy to get involved? I'll grab the popcorn instead.

I wouldn't say that the scenes shown by the propaganda ministry - the entire media - are fitting. You see mainly women supporting those causes. The wide majority - certainly in Netherlands as well as in Iceland are against this. And yes - 5-10% are certainly for it, since they are the brainwashed masses who believe every word that the leftist media tells them.

Those people will find out in the next years and decades how much fun it is to live with those poor poor "refugees".

My acquaintances in Austria, Germany and Netherlands are mostly against it with mainly young women being fully for acceptance of all possible immigrants.

What we can do about it - here or otherwise - is another matter. Personally I don't think that there is much except to post some balanced articles for the rising number of Red Pill men. That is a valid contribution in the information war that is waged against the interests of the 99,9%. Men should find out that they are not automatically Nazis or racists just because they are against this madness now. There is no reason to become far right or extremist in order to oppose all of this.

(09-08-2015 07:37 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Some actual Syrian refugees - a few dozen - who were accepted in Uruguay demand to be shipped back to Lebanon by the UN, since they find the conditions there untenable.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-0...601197.htm

So they don't like Uruguay, surprise. Culturally antipodal to Syria, and limited benefits. But wait, it gets better:

(Spanish)
http://www.bbc.com/mundo/noticias/2015/0...ruguay_irm

Quote:Estas familias confían en que, si vuelven a Líbano, les será más fácil emprender el viaje hacia otros destinos, como Europa, como más de 350.000 compatriotas han hecho ya atravesando el Mediterráneo, según la Organización Internacional para las Migraciones (OIM).

They trust that if they are sent back to Lebanon, it will be easier to travel to other countries, in Europe, where they now see thousands of compatriots being welcomed with open arms and free money.

Here was Pepe Mujica and Uruguay, a year ago before any of this was news, just trying to do the right thing and help some real refugees, and this is how it turns out.

Welcome to the 21st Century.

Sure, this matter is discussed in various forums, for example on politikforen.net

http://politikforen.net/showthread.php?1...r/page1764

Or in the comment section of the newspapers. (unfortunately many of them cancel this possibility)

(09-08-2015 07:45 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Are their other European forums that are discussing this crisis as intently as we are?

I'm starting to get the feeling that the majority of Western Europeans are on board with multiculturalism and would attack us strongly if we attempt to white knight for them.

Look at these Dutchmen singing welcome songs to refugees at the airport: https://videos.files.wordpress.com/Yq73w...es_dvd.mp4

10,000 Icelanders offer to house Syrian refugees: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...-call.html

Western Europe seems too far gone to be saved, especially since the people don't seem to want to be saved. Only Eastern Europe has a chance, but even then, the nationalists are a small percentage of the population. Just the other day a Polish girl said how gay marriage is good, and she goes to church every Sunday.

In other words, I want to see some action that the European people are trying to save themselves. Otherwise, why put much energy to get involved? I'll grab the popcorn instead.

Italians Revolt Against Migrant 'Invasion'

Migrant Crisis Gets Majority of UK Voters to Back Leaving EU

And another.

http://www.france24.com/en/20150630-fren...ais-region

Le Pen is probably going to win the Calais region, which is currently being very hard-hit.