(09-07-2015 05:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Why aren't the Europeans wanting to come here to the US?

Even the Greeks.

Because it's nigh on impossible. You're on a 7+ year waiting list.

The only people that get automatic U.S citizenship are 5ft Aztecs willing to brave the Rio Grande.

(09-07-2015 05:50 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 05:23 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  The GamerGate comparison is not a very good one. They're a compromised movement that didn't "win" much. They pretty much agree with their enemy's frame and are just exasperated liberals who are tired of identity politics in video game journalism. That's it. They aimed to convince neutral liberals and others that they weren't actually racist, homophobic, transphobic or whatever.

Most of the actual GamerGaters are pro-homosexual, pro-tranny, etc. etc.

A nationalist movement will have to come to grips with racial and ethnic identity. After all, what is a nation? It is its people. It can be done without becoming a Jerry Springer-esque parody movement of Hollywood Nazis and Klanners by simply ignoring the more extreme ridiculous voices like the left does. They never highlight the open communists in their movement nor do they disavow them. They ignore and keep fighting for their goals. They are not shamed by conservatives pointing out the commies and basically don't go on defense about it, they just attack through the criticism. A "no enemies to the right" strategy is necessary to get anywhere otherwise infighting and petty squabbles will bring such a movement to a grinding halt.

Throwing the more extreme people out of the boat immediately shows your enemy that you give a fuck what they think and have bought into their frame. At that point you've already lost and things will continue to spiral downward. Just ignore them instead.

The reason I brought up GamerGate was because it was the first spontaneous movement against Cultural Marxism that succeeded in its goals - despite the entire narrative being set against it.

Most of the people involved were as you say, but you wouldn't think it by the way the media handled it.

This is obviously much more serious and will call for greater spunk, but to not learn the lessons of GamerGate, both good and bad, as we continue on would be foolish. For whatever its faults, it showed us tactics to use and win with, and it woke up more people to the narrative than anything ever had before.

We must have rolled in different circles though. The people I rolled with were pretty hardcore for the most part. Maybe I was just in an insider's group, I guess.

We probably did but overall the movement had some small goals that it didn't fully achieve. It's sort of petered out and alternative media has developed to cater to GamerGaters who don't want to read SJW gaming journalism. That's fine, but that sort of thing is only part of what's going on here.

Right now as we speak there is a backlash against "conservative" media with #NRORevolt. Jonah Goldberg is having his "gamers are dead" whining moment. You'll find a lot of white nationalists and people you'd probably dislike saying some extreme things for full troll effect but you'll also find guys like Cernovich and Ricky_Vaughn99 making salient points and taking down the cuckservatives.

By the way, #cuckservative originated on the "far-right" and is explicitly about pointing out how mainstream conservatism has sold its soul to become a sort of rootless cosmopolitan ideology where they accept leftist ideas on racial egalitarianism to justify open borders policies that will actually demographically and politically harm themselves and the majority for the benefit of the Chamber of Commerce crowd.

#NRORevolt is us calling them on their bullshit for being a faggy cuckservative magazine. It all started with Jonah's recent article "No Movement That Embraces Trump Can Call Itself Conservative." This is them trying their usual Buckleyite cuckery where they get to define what conservatism is and who's allowed in. In past years they probably would've succeeded since they purged Steve Sailer, Ann Coulter, Joseph Sobran, Rushton, Pat Buchanan, and Mark Steyn for being too nationalistic and espousing wrongthink on race. But after decades of consistently losing they don't have much power anymore.

As for WNism? It's more nuanced than you think. I doubt many here would consider CH the stereotypical Hollywood Nazi. Obviously there are a lot of users who don't like him or whatever for various reasons but he's no white knight who puts white women on a pedestal. Those do exist but, again, it's mainly nobodies and it's best to ignore 'em and only fire on them if they fire on you.

There are guys like Greg Johnson and Richard Spencer, who take more intellectual approaches to these issues that I think you would find interesting.

But yes, nationalism is really inseparable from race and ethnicity. The US wouldn't be the same United States tomorrow if we brought in all the population of the third world. Just like Europe may very well not be Europe anymore if they keep bringing in millions from the Middle East and Africa. Nations are defined by their people. The key is fostering a sort of positive nationalism, which is sometimes difficult because of how long it's been attacked and vilified by the powers that be. Hatred shouldn't really be any part of it because it's important to realize that every group and peoples have their own interests, including ours, and they're usually pretty logical. No one should hate anyone for that or competition. I don't hate most of the migrants flooding Europe or the illegal aliens coming across the US-Mexico border. If I was them I'd probably be doing the same thing.

The only people who should be hated are those who deliberately seek to do damage to our people in the name of insane, unrealistic universalist leftist ideals and pathetic cowards (or cucks) who have bought into that nonsense and want to sell us out for votes (which won't even work) and the approval of our enemies.

(09-07-2015 06:05 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 05:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Why aren't the Europeans wanting to come here to the US?

Even the Greeks.

And do what? work 60 hrs a week with no family/friends and eat Applebees on weekends?

I know a French guy who spent 2 years over here and he couldn't wait to go back.

Good is he better now? I was at a mall yesterday full and I mean full of Europeans going nuts over Labor Day sales. They seem to love it here but Sarasota FL is different to Oil city PA.
Immigration attorneys in FL are cheap and GIT-R-DONE types.

(09-07-2015 06:07 PM)JohnnyR Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 05:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Why aren't the Europeans wanting to come here to the US?

Even the Greeks.

Because it's nigh on impossible. You're on a 7+ year waiting list.

The only people that get automatic U.S citizenship are 5ft Aztecs willing to brave the Rio Grande.

It's absolutely possible. I know a lot of people with an O-1 visa - including myself.

It's not easy, but if you hustle you can get it.

(09-07-2015 05:23 PM)TheWastelander Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 12:14 PM)Libertas Wrote:  The thing is guys, all the talk about people being afraid to be "racist" etc. is starting to wear thin. For this we have in large part our SJW enemies to thank. The buzzwords have been used so much that they've become meaningless.

Don't think so?

Look at the rise of Trump in the U.S., despite him constantly being called "racist." It's gotten to the point where even the celebrity gossips who are full of PC bullshit through and through are taking a softer tone and pondering him as a glamorous President (alongside his hot wife). Look at how nationalists are gaining ground almost everywhere in Europe.

Remember that our side is stronger than they are, inherently. Astute commenters here have the said the media is on full blast because they're desperate. I even think the number of Germans "welcoming refugees" has been grossly exaggerated and signal boosted to effect to spin the narrative, not to report the truth.

We are men. Let's get to work. Europe, America, and everywhere else.

A nationalist movement will have to come to grips with racial and ethnic identity. After all, what is a nation? It is its people. It can be done without becoming a Jerry Springer-esque parody movement of Hollywood Nazis and Klanners by simply ignoring the more extreme ridiculous voices like the left does. They never highlight the open communists in their movement nor do they disavow them. They ignore and keep fighting for their goals. They are not shamed by conservatives pointing out the commies and basically don't go on defense about it, they just attack through the criticism. A "no enemies to the right" strategy is necessary to get anywhere otherwise infighting and petty squabbles will bring such a movement to a grinding halt.

Throwing the more extreme people out of the boat immediately shows your enemy that you give a fuck what they think and have bought into their frame. At that point you've already lost and things will continue to spiral downward. Just ignore them instead.

Marine Le Pen ought to read your post... In any case, in France, she did exactly what you advise not to do: throwing her (often-"extreme") father (and some of his "hard-stance" followers) out of the boat.

It did rock the party (the FN I mean), but, after a while things have calmed down... Hard to know, as of now, whether or not she did the good, clever strategic choice. Times will tell.

I agree with a "no enemies" to the right strategy, at least as far as this situation is concerned. It's that dire. What we should do is organize around a politicized neomasculinity in line with my earlier posts.

We will do what we will do. Other people who don't align to the personal, political, and social principles of neomasculinity but who may be fighting the same enemy are not our concern for now.

Le Pen was in an awkward position because her father was IN her own party. Now he's started another group and I'm not sure if she's concerned.

(09-07-2015 06:33 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I agree with a "no enemies" to the right strategy, at least as far as this situation is concerned. It's that dire. What we should do is organize around a politicized neomasculinity in line with my earlier posts.

We will do what we will do. Other people who don't align to the personal, political, and social principles of neomasculinity but who may be fighting the same enemy are not our concern for now.

Le Pen was in an awkward position because her father was IN her own party. Now he's started another group and I'm not sure if she's concerned.

I think some sanity has just been restored, at last, in this Le Pen father-daughter row... For, it seems that JMLP, the father, has decided to start a group which is parallel, and not concurrent, to the FN. Kind of a think tank, or more precisely I'd say, a lobbying group, which won't try to "steal" votes (just influence the policies of the FN).

By the way, do you know the new rising star of the FN, in France? Marion Marechal Le Pen, who already is a deputy, and might become in december the president of the PACA southern French region...

I think she'd actually deserve her own thread here on RooshVforum: a smoking hot young female red-pill politician:

Verging on drunk lounge but......

Was watching soccer matches on TV in a bar tonight, after the matches the news came on the TV.

Couple guys I knew were discussing the "Refugee crisis", so after letting them watch the MSM take on the situation I decided I would let the guys I knew have a look at the alternative narrative.

Showed them the youtube of the guy making the "slitting his throat gesture" and the many others of huge percentages of young single male "refugee's" basically storming the borders.

One younger guy sitting with them took umbrage at the truth in front of his eye's, told me I was a "xenophobe", that "these people were in distress and should be accommodated no matter what the cost"!! WTF is it with these numpty's nowadays!!

Needless to say, due to the simplicity of the argument, violence nearly ensued but fortunately only ended in handbags at dawn . A (sic) Mexican stand off was in force for the rest of the night with the guy kidding he wanted to do me harm for bringing the truth to his attention. He bravely decided not to leave the bar same time as me tho!!

Luckily the guy's I know, although older, agree with my(our)point of view, as in, this ain't gonna end well.

Which although not a fan, I think the Daily Mail UK coverage of Roosh & Neomasculinity might strike a chord with the pensioner male generation who grew up with our viewpoints as natural.

But really are we gonna have to come to blows and fight with these local usefull idiots (like my friend in the bar), who really need to open their eye's to what's happening in front of them, only to even keep the status quo, or should we just lie down and wait for the impending doom.

Fuck that, I'm still a fighter!!

(09-07-2015 06:25 PM)Ice Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 06:07 PM)JohnnyR Wrote:  

(09-07-2015 05:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  Why aren't the Europeans wanting to come here to the US?

Even the Greeks.

Because it's nigh on impossible. You're on a 7+ year waiting list.

The only people that get automatic U.S citizenship are 5ft Aztecs willing to brave the Rio Grande.

It's absolutely possible. I know a lot of people with an O-1 visa - including myself.

It's not easy, but if you hustle you can get it.

I read this wrong.

It's about time people started marching on Brussels.

Here they've run the EU economy into the ground, and now they're forcing member states to subsidize 3rd world rats. It's enough to make a man foam at the mouth!

Spain has a 50% youth unemployment rate. Yet they're supposed to take in North Africans (the same people they fought centuries to keep out)?

If I were in charge of the EU, I'd give all the unemployed youths jobs patrolling the Mediterranean, and the Turkish border. And they'd get cash bonuses for every pushback.

Prison Break!

Hungary is having to deal with another Ottoman invasion.

Can't blame them for being pissed...

P.S I will paypal 100 euros to the German willing to spill beer on Angela Merkel.

That treacherous cunt is demanding that other EU nations take their "fair share" of the immigrants. Further proof that women shouldn't be in power.

(09-07-2015 06:55 PM)Salty Wrote:  Verging on drunk lounge but......

Was watching soccer matches on TV in a bar tonight, after the matches the news came on the TV.

Couple guys I knew were discussing the "Refugee crisis", so after letting them watch the MSM take on the situation I decided I would let the guys I knew have a look at the alternative narrative.

Showed them the youtube of the guy making the "slitting his throat gesture" and the many others of huge percentages of young single male "refugee's" basically storming the borders.

One younger guy sitting with them took umbrage at the truth in front of his eye's, told me I was a "xenophobe", that "these people were in distress and should be accommodated no matter what the cost"!! WTF is it with these numpty's nowadays!!

Needless to say, due to the simplicity of the argument, violence nearly ensued but fortunately only ended in handbags at dawn . A (sic) Mexican stand off was in force for the rest of the night with the guy kidding he wanted to do me harm for bringing the truth to his attention. He bravely decided not to leave the bar same time as me tho!!

Luckily the guy's I know, although older, agree with my(our)point of view, as in, this ain't gonna end well.

Which although not a fan, I think the Daily Mail UK coverage of Roosh & Neomasculinity might strike a chord with the pensioner male generation who grew up with our viewpoints as natural.

But really are we gonna have to come to blows and fight with these local usefull idiots (like my friend in the bar), who really need to open their eye's to what's happening in front of them, only to even keep the status quo, or should we just lie down and wait for the impending doom.

Fuck that, I'm still a fighter!!

It's only a matter of time before people's loved ones start getting murdered and raped, family businesses looted and burned to the ground... acts of violence on massive scales in countries that are typically more lenient... and the rest of Europe will finally start to wake up. But by then it will be too late. How long until the first politician is raped and killed in broad daylight somewhere? If I were a betting man...

el mechanico Wrote:I was at a mall yesterday full and I mean full of Europeans

Full of European lumpen-proletariat.

There are some rural EU areas that are still unaffected by zombies, but not for long.

The point is not to move to another version of the same.

America is made of same ideological and practical cloth as Western Europe. Cuntoracy, stifling political correctness, racial frustrations on at least three sides bubbling just below the surface.

You also work yourself to death just to lead spectacularly shitty lifestyle. Life in America is stressful, shallow, unheatlhy, and dangerous. It really is unsatisfactory in all areas except to some extend the standard of living (central A/C on full blast is cool).......

The point is to move somewhere where the culture is not your (anti-white, anti-male) enemy. At present there are only remaining areas of the world: wide swaths of EE (which are next on the zombie re-population radar), Russia, and parts of South America. Look for increased white flight to those areas.

The rest of the world is gone.

The Dutch will be taking refugees... from the Camps. And deporting those who come illegally.
http://nos.nl/artikel/2056557-kabinetsak...ehoud.html

The Sweden Democrats are excluded from talks on the Refugees, despite being at least one of the largest parties in Sweden.
http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.asp...el=6250023

This only seems to make them stronger.

Czech and Slovak leaders reject the proposed quotas
http://www.dw.com/en/czech-slovak-leader...a-18699130

Not surprising as an earlier post of mine here involved an ex-President of the Czech Republic starting a petition to bar refugees. In addition to more than 90% of Czech's being against it, ALL of the parties are too.

Migrant Wave Inspires Others to Attempt Trek to Europe
http://www.wsj.com/articles/migrant-wave...1441668591

Romania will accept refugees... if admitted to Schengen
http://www.euractiv.com/sections/justice...en-317426?

Nigel Farage's case for Brexit got that much tighter

(09-08-2015 03:00 PM)JohnnyR Wrote:  Prison Break!

Hungary is having to deal with another Ottoman invasion.

Can't blame them for being pissed...

P.S I will paypal 100 euros to the German willing to spill beer on Angela Merkel.

That treacherous cunt is demanding that other EU nations take their "fair share" of the immigrants. Further proof that women shouldn't be in power.

"Many cannot understand why, having reached the European Union, they are not receiving a warmer welcome."

The invasion of Hungary is not going in the direction they were hoping for.

My reaction to any migrant THINKING about illegally entering Europe...

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(09-07-2015 02:50 PM)N°6 Wrote:  

(09-06-2015 04:04 PM)Dan Woolf Wrote:  

Everything to support the Narrative.

Careful with this one. Even though it looks like the same child it is actually the older brother.


RIP

Dan Woolf, it doesn't seem to be working. Even in Germany there was a poll where half of Germans were worried.

Remember, Germany has less diversity than the rest of western europe and nazi guilt. So sloth on their part is to be expected.

Some wisdom from Daniel Greenfield:

Quote:A popular meme claims that the UK has taken in only enough refugees to fit on a subway train. My question to the meme spreaders is how would they like to be on that train, wedged between the terrorists, the sex groomers and the Sunnis and Shiites trying to reach across and throttle each other.

We are told that the Syrian refugees “stir the conscience” of the world; certainly not the Muslim world. The Saudis don’t want them. Jordan and Turkey have resentfully set up refugee camps without actually offering permanent legal status to them the way that Europe, Canada and America are expected to.

What do Muslim countries know about the Syrian Civil War that we don’t?

The Saudis, Jordanians and Turks have their own problems. They don’t want to import the Syrian Civil War into their own borders. Only Western countries are stupid enough to do that.

I live in the most dirt poor country in Eastern Europe and even I am worried about this. These refugees have been in Europe for weeks and already they are showing their unrealistic demands for mooching off the taxpayer. They may be a million this year overall but even if the borders are completely closed next year (and they certainly won't be), the chain migration triggered by those that are here already will bring 3-4 million more.

I can't believe I missed this.
Major League Shitlording.

Denmark sent refugees back to Germany.
http://www.thelocal.dk/20150908/denmark-...to-germany

I sure hope nobody is holding out hope for a mass number of politicians changing their mind with regards to importing people from lands where out enemies reside.

Euro 2016 is next year in France, of all places. How many recent terrorist activities have there been just a year before this major tournament is due to kick off?

I bet my next pay cheque the likes of MI6, French services, Interpol and any other sane intelligence agency is shitting themselves over this influx and potential sleepers who have yet to activate.

Look at how easily lone wolf attacks occurred this summer, you cannot stop them except blind luck and the intelligence services know this.

And then you have this madness: British Jihadi deaths

People are actually calling the British government on legal grounds as to whether they should have killed these murderers. The BBC even did a Treyvon Martin "oh he is a good boy" picture scenario showing them in happy poses around western friends and influences and not the traditional Jihadi garb.

Confirmed terrorists have more rights than law abiding citizens and more bleeding hearts than victims of mass murdering psychopaths.

I have little faith anything will counter this.

The longer this goes on, the less time there is to enact a peaceful solution.



The tweet and the man behind it; Ace

The Leftist Australian Greens are calling for Australia to take 20,000 refugees.

If you're wondering how the narrative is playing on in the media, check out this article, and see how they paint anyone who disagrees with them:

http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-a...jhg1f.html

Eternal Wanker, Derryn Hinch, whom I bet has a home in an expensive suburb with little cultural diversity:

Quote:"If the prime minister announced, change of heart, he would bring in 50,000 refugees, sadly the Australian electorate — many of them, ones like you — wouldn't accept it. It's a special case of the worst refugee situation and displacement of people since World War II. The world can't sit back and do nothing!"

Hinch said that while he agreed with the boat turn-back policy, "this is different ... [German Chancellor] Angela Merkel deserves the Peace Prize for the fact Germany has stepped up to the plate, which our country has not."

Where is Nigel when we need him.