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War is coming. There are too many European nationalists getting fed up for it to not happen. For those who say the governments will eliminate them, they will try. Perhaps the nationalists should start by cleaning out the governments of all the traitors first, then expel the migrants secondly.

What is happening to Europe now is biological warfare. It is deliberate and being pushed by traitorous European elites and the usual suspects who seek to divide and conquer these peoples. I have, over the past couple days, collected and posted a small sampling of articles written by these suspects guilt-tripping and condemning Europe and comparing them to Nazis and all this to the Holocaust if they don't let the millions of Syrian and Sub-Saharan Muslims in. These people, whether motivated by hatred, revenge or stupidity, benefit greatly off their competitors fighting one another and wage clandestine war by undermining the peoples of European nations and advocating insane leftist ideologies. They even do this constantly here in America and I have documented examples of this as well. If the shit ever hits the fan they will run off to their own ethnostate with its closed borders and explicitly racist policies while the rest of the world burns.

















https://news.yahoo.com/ahead-greek-elect...ector.html

Quote:The most popular party for 18-24-year-olds now is the far right Golden Dawn, while Syriza languishes in fourth place, data by the pollster Alco show.

And here in America we have nominal conservatives (really cuckservatives and the usual suspects who claim to be conservative to get us to fight for Israel) freaking out about a populist politician who would've been considered a mainstream Democrat 30-40 years ago. They are often a false opposition wedded to outdated ideals and often openly pushing for policies that will make them and ourselves electorally and demographically obsolete. They believe in the rule of law when it has been repeatedly demonstrated no such thing exists anymore. We live in an anarcho-tyranny thanks to the left waging total war on culture, politics, and society and using the state a a weapon while the "right" meekly sits in the corner.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/42...h-goldberg

Quote:No Movement That Embraces Trump Can Call Itself Conservative

By Jonah Goldberg

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/42...a-rule-law

Quote:Have Republicans Grown Tired of Supporting the Rule of Law?

By Mona Charen

We are on the verge of a great awakening. In America and parts of Europe it may still be attained electorally (although whether it happens or not remains to be seen and nobody knows how much longer it'll be possible). But in some countries it will only be achieved via great struggle.

The weak will perish, the strong will fight and survive. I have faith that good Europeans will weather the coming storm and come out on top as they have for millennia.

Wastelander I hope you're right. But whatever sympathy I had for Europeans just flew out out the window.

Austrians throwing a party and chanting "refugees welcome"

Try not to take these left-wing protests and rallies too seriously. If the situation intensifies, do you really think these people (sheltered college students by and large) are willing to fight, bleed, and die for their cause? They'll scatter like rats at the sound of a gunshot. The right-wing sees their identity, heritage, territory, women, and culture at stake. Those are the motivating factors that pushed men through unspeakable horrors, dying by the hundreds of thousands, in places like Verdun and Stalingrad.

The Left is all bark, and no bite.
The Right is no bark, and all bite.

Armed conflict isn't an election or poll where votes, voices, and Retweets count. When push comes to shove, which side do you think will win?

EDIT: Take close note of the gender ratio of the right-wing Budapest rally and the left-wing "Refugees Welcome" rally in Austria. Who will be fighting and who will be hiding at home?

I would take this blood and iron talk a lot more seriously if there was any popular support for it at all.

(09-05-2015 12:17 PM)Chaos Wrote:  Right now:

Finnish PM Sipilä is inviting 20 refugees to live in his house from early 2016.

Like I said. Things are escalating in a uncontrollable speed.

I see he has a wife and at least one daughter.

There is 0% chance he is going to let 20 RANDOM Syrian's live in his home. They will be carefully selected.

Or if they are not (and probably even if they are), he will simply let 20 live in his home for the publicity and to push his agenda, while he and his family live elsewhere.

No one, not even extreme progressives, are dumb enough to let 20 Syrian refugees, who many say are roughly 75% able bodied men, live in their home with their wife and daughter/s.

If there was ever a recipe for disaster for the progressive/pro-mass immigration agenda, letting 20 Syrians live in your home with your wife and daughter while you are away at work pushing for MORE Muslim refugees would be it.

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(09-05-2015 03:19 PM)RioNomad Wrote:  

(09-05-2015 12:17 PM)Chaos Wrote:  Right now:

Finnish PM Sipilä is inviting 20 refugees to live in his house from early 2016.

Like I said. Things are escalating in a uncontrollable speed.

I see he has a wife and at least one daughter.

There is 0% chance he is going to let 20 RANDOM Syrian's live in his home. They will be carefully selected.

Or if they are not (and probably even if they are), he will simply let 20 live in his home for the publicity and to push his agenda, while he and his family live elsewhere.

No one, not even extreme progressives, are dumb enough to let 20 Syrian refugees, who many say are roughly 75% able bodied men, live in their home with their wife and daughter/s.

If there was ever a recipe for disaster for the progressive/pro-mass immigration agenda, letting 20 Syrians live in your home with your wife and daughter while you are away at work pushing for MORE Muslim refugees would be it.

I just dug more into this.

The refugees will not live with him and his family.
He is offering his big house in the North for the refugees as "he don't need it" anymore since he became PM and is based in Helsinki.

Sipilä is a successfull and wealthy business man, but he is also an active member of perhaps the most conservative Christian group in Finland.
(Old Laestadian)

It seems like he just fell for the leftist medias pressure to make a stand against the right wing and anti immigration groups here in Finland.

AKA, scoring cheap political points to keep the leftists silent.

What's the net tax impact of new immigrants to EU countries? Anyone know of data on this?

In the US, illegal immigrants tend to make a net contribution to taxes (i.e. they pay more than they consume in government services/entitlements) so it makes sense that politicians want to to keep them coming; immigrants help to push back the inevitable shortfalls in entitlement payments. In the EU, my sense is that immigrants might be a net drain on government coffers.

As I said on the related thread, the Syrians don't bother me. They are legitimate refugees, and as I said there, they are Shia Muslims...who are way, way, way better at integrating than their Sunni counterparts. I mean, the proprietor of this very fourm's Dad is one, that should tell you all you need to know about their ability to integrate. This should not be underestimated. I know Syrians, they drink alcohol etc. They're secular - as is Assad, which makes this hostility toward him all the more ridiculous. And all the more transparent as a geo-political game rather than an ideological one. The campaign against him is so infuriating - hearing leading UK politicians TODAY saying "Well, to solve this problem, we must fight both ISIS and the "evil Assad regime" makes my blood boil. The disgusting globalists who have hijacked our countries caused this shit - I hate them 100 times more than I hate any single migrant or refugee. They should be tried for various major charges and jailed or shot.

What irritates me too, apart from the typical emotionally-driven pieces from Buzzfeed et al, are these folk:



Indeed they aren't. By their own words - they want to see "Chelsea play football'. They're from Senegal, a nice place to live - as our very own Mikado will elaborate on...so therefore they're chancers. Economic migrants in search of a better life in a wealthy country...fair enough...but it's just unfortunate that Western Europe cannot house/clothe/school/feed/*civilize* etc the world's population. They should be sent home straight away. No ifs or buts.

*This only applies to certain groups. Namely rural Pakistanis.

Despite what I've said about Syrians, this doesn't look very promising either, though I know nothing about their backgrounds:



As others have said - this is going to fuck up the sexual market place. Maybe not for the white population in Europe, but certainly for guys on here who don't necessarily fit the indigenous-look for their respective country of birth/residence/citizenship. Germany is insane, there will be a massive backlash though.

There's a common consensus that Germany is filled with cultural-relativist wimps. It's not true. Talk to a car mechanic in Dusseldorf, or an accountant in Frankfurt - off the record - they DO NOT agree with mass immigration at all. They know what's up. Sure, they're not exactly Third Reich-worshiping nutters, but they appreciate that Germany is what it is because of the people that inhabit the country. And built it.

I know this kind of 'prophetic optimism' is spoken of often here, ironically among the doom-mongering, but a professor of mine told me privately about 5 years ago that Europe would swing back by 2020 - he always used that date, I'm not sure why. Probably because it gave him a bit of leeway. This dude is an expert in this kind of stuff, and is a reputable source. You can find his works in any major library in the UK, and the wider Anglo world most likely - I won't say anymore for fear of 'outing myself' etc. But, he always mentioned a particular set of MOD reports (Ministry of Defence - they're available online), foreign policy as headed by the United States, unavoidable demographics, unsustainable financial projects, and the pendulum effect. 2020.

I've never argued with family members, as much as I have over this migrant situation, as I have regarding a political issue for a very long time. It's a serious turning point I feel, and one that needs to be seriously discussed - with zero thoughts towards humanitarianism, at least at first.

I do think that we are living a defining time, in the History of mankind. The president Orban agrees: he said today that survival of Europe is at stake, and these migrants coming to Europe number "in millions and tens of millions"...

But more importantly, he confirmed what I wrote earlier on this thread: on the 15th of September, he will send the police and the army to close Hungary's borders.

If he doesn't back down, the 15th of September will be recorded in History as the day Europe awoke. At long fucking last!

Actually, it's already a historic event in itself: a European leader shaking off the Political Correctness and Leftism, siding with his people. For the last 40 years, (almost) all European leaders have been treacherous to their people, and suddenly, one has decided to fight for Europeans, for the people.

Myself, I'll eagerly be waiting the 15th of September. The day sanity and pride are reborn in Europe? This day:



Link in French only, sorry, seems that English-speaking media don't want to publicize Orban's last statements...
http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2015/0...tieres.php

"Le grand changement interviendra après le 15 septembre (...) et nous mettrons la frontière sous contrôle petit à petit. Nous enverrons la police, puis, si nous obtenons l'aval du Parlement, nous déploierons l'armée.

"Il ne s'agit pas de 150.000 (migrants), que certains veulent répartir sur la base de quotas, ni de 500.000, chiffre que j'ai entendu à Bruxelles, ce sont des millions, puis des dizaines de millions"

Quick translation of Orban's words :
"The big change will occur after the 15th of September. We'll send in the police and if the parliament agrees, we'll deploy (send in) the army

Contrary to what I heard in Brussels, those are not 150.000 or 500.000 migrants coming our way, but millions, then tens of millions of migrants"

(09-05-2015 03:44 PM)TheNookieMonster Wrote:  What's the net tax impact of new immigrants to EU countries? Anyone know of data on this?

In the US, illegal immigrants tend to make a net contribution to taxes (i.e. they pay more than they consume in government services/entitlements) so it makes sense that politicians want to to keep them coming; immigrants help to push back the inevitable shortfalls in entitlement payments. In the EU, my sense is that immigrants might be a net drain on government coffers.

Re the first point, could that really be true?
I find that hard to believe, do you have any unbiased studies that show that's the case?
Re the second point, your sense is correct, significantly moreso in recent times with the increasing amounts of unskilled people from second/third world countries who know that the welfare states in Germany/UK/Sweden/Switzerland, etc will look after them.

For those who want to get into serious journalism, now is your golden opportunity to pack your bags ,head to the turmoil and start writing about what's going on and sticking to real facts.

Western European media is longer any better than the Russian propaganda machinery which Western media so often like to call out.

(09-05-2015 09:18 AM)Roosh Wrote:  Correct, but it won't be because of wariness of the women, but threats by the local men. Things in Poland are getting tense.

Going to European countries to have casual sex with women based on being exotic will entail more risks in the next five years, especially if you look way different than the local population.

I know this is considered blasphemous on this forum but perhaps that's the best thing that could happen in order to raise our birthrate.

(09-05-2015 02:18 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Wastelander I hope you're right. But whatever sympathy I had for Europeans just flew out out the window.

Austrians throwing a party and chanting "refugees welcome"

That protest is 100% meaningless. Its all women and limp-wristed manginas. The only difference between this protest and the Toronto Consent Protests is the language.

(09-05-2015 03:44 PM)TheNookieMonster Wrote:  What's the net tax impact of new immigrants to EU countries? Anyone know of data on this?

In the US, illegal immigrants tend to make a net contribution to taxes (i.e. they pay more than they consume in government services/entitlements) so it makes sense that politicians want to to keep them coming; immigrants help to push back the inevitable shortfalls in entitlement payments. In the EU, my sense is that immigrants might be a net drain on government coffers.

I can only speak about the German situation, but maybe there is a comparison possible to some extent at least.

Migrants tend to pay more for social system they get - BUT this is only an across the board rule. Keep in mind that there are certain sectors of migrants who are not willing to follow rules, because they cling to their own social or religious structure and do not participate.

Also, the findings show that the costs of infrastructure (e.g. school, streets, bureaucracy, military.... ) are not taken into account. If you take these additional costs, the average refugee is a considerable expense.

All in all, the costs for for the government or the tax payer are roughly twenty times higher than the costs for "natives" and amount to a state deficit of 72.000 for each migrant or refugee. (Source: Professor Hans Werner Sinn, if it is available in English.)

By the way: In Austria, the officially confirmed costs for a refugee are 2000 Euro a month. Do you think it would be much different in Germany? No. It is estimated that the costs are at about 1800 Euro.

Now you might say we just have to help. But let's talk about what that means. Supposedly 850.000 people will come - this year at least. Now do the math: 1530 Millions each month. More than 18 billions a year.

Add to that the refugees already staying in Germany, even illegally so. These are 600000 people: Roughly 13 billions a year.

So how much does it cost for Germany's taxpayer each year? In absolute numbers, at least 31 billions a year.

I have some data on welfare use by background in the Netherlands: http://www.cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/themas/doss...jstand.htm

And, some indirect data from Sweden. As Sweden has a hard time integrating foreigners into its work force (of course when they say it like that it's "Sweden's Fault" for not doing enough): http://news.yahoo.com/nordics-many-refug...00907.html

I'm tempted to buy an Adidas jumpsuit and go follow the refugees around then buss out my perfect English on hot chicks to stay at thier places. Lame cover story like was just working on ships and by accident I got..

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Czechs blast EU and USA for "engineering" crisis, suggest leaving Schengen temporarily: http://blisty.cz/art/78797.html

Quote:"The United States and some West European countries have created military conflicts in Iraq, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan. Without these wars, this huge migration wave would not have arisen. The European countries should have refused entry to any refugees whatsoever. Migration is not a natural human right. Believing that it is is a fatal error and if Europe continues to hold this belief, it will commit suicide. As you can see on television, these people are not impoverished unfortunates from conflict zones but young men in fancy clothing with mobile phones and IPads," said the Czech president Václav Klaus in Ostrava, Czech Republic, today, during the launch of a book by writer Václav Junek devoted to his genius.

Junek added: "Europe is betraying itself in an unprecedented way. In the past, we were able to talk to each other and to present a united front against Genghis Khan, the Arabs and the Turks. Nowadays, no rational power exists in Europe which would be capable of protecting the standards of living which we have reached and which we deserve. This is a total failure of the EU political leadership."

Klaus also strongly criticised the European Union for not defending the Schengen area: "For 18 months, smugglers' boats have been arriving at European shores with thousands of migrants and it was not until now that the EU has, with its typical 'decisiveness', decided to check them slightly more thoroughly from mid-September. Now Hungarian railway stations are besieged. When will this wave reach Prague? In a week? And no one does anything. This is stupid, silly, but also horrifying." Klaus added: "I have just read an excellent article in an Australian newspaper saying that Europe will be the first continent to commit suicide by political correctness. This is absolutely true." Klaus also suggested that the Czech Republic should leave the Schengen area temporarily.

Interesting view of the problem by Ramzan Kadyrov, a muslim, and Head of the Russian Chechnya Republic.

"‘West creates refugees by destroying Islamic nations’ – Chechen leader "

Quote:The head of Russia’s Chechen Republic claims the current asylum seeker crisis in European countries originated in the aggressive policies of the United States and the EU. He also called upon all Muslim nations to jointly fight the root of the problem.


“If today no one rises against the inhumane policies of the Western countries, tomorrow the disaster may come to any Muslim country. I call upon you to urgently discuss this problem, to develop a unified position and to save the lives of thousands of people,” Ramzan Kadyrov wrote on his Instagram account (Kadyrov uses Instagram as a social network for public statements).

“Tens of thousands of Muslims are dying. Women, old people, children and young people as well. Under such conditions the leaders of Islamic countries has no right to remain silent, to stand aside and remain simple observers,” he added.

Quote:Kadyrov also explained in his post that in his opinion the West must be blamed for tragedies that are currently taking place in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Libya, Yemen, Algeria and other Muslim nations.

Europe and the USA are not simply refusing to act, they instigate the tragedies of millions of people by destroying the economy of Islamic countries and starting wars in Muslim regions of the world, he added.

Quote:“The problem cannot be solved by fighting its consequences, by silencing the reasons that caused it. But this is what Europe and the United States are currently doing. The USA and Europe have ruined these countries, destroyed their economies, provoked lingering internal conflicts and forced the desperate people into becoming refugees,” the Chechen leader wrote.

In February this year, Kadyrov openly accused the US and other Western nations of “spawning” Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) in order to incite hatred towards Muslims all over the world.

Kadyrov also suggested the West was backing IS in order to distract public attention from numerous problems in the Middle East, in the hope of destroying Islamic nations from inside.

Quote:Prior to this, he Kadyrov had told reporters that he possessed information that the IS leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, had been recruited to work for the US personally by General David Petraeus, the former director of the CIA and former commander of coalition forces in Iraq and Afghanistan. At that time, Kadyrov claimed IS “was acting on orders from the West and Europe.”

I've been arguing with people on Facebook regarding the amount of women moaning about the first groups of migrants entering Germany are mostly all males and they are saying that it should be women and children first and I've been going mental arguing women give that special treatment up when they got equality and feminism brainwashed people and to thank feminists when men are pushing past women to get in first!

I'm more worried about economic migrants from Pakistan, Afghanistan, African countries and elsewhere than Syrian refugee's. More come from the Med than Syria as of now.

Syrians don't strike me as something problematic like the rest of their Middle Eastern counterparts.

I remember Syria before the war engulfed it and it was far and away from some hostile bat shit hell hole where hate is nurtured and let loose on the world. A Top Gear special made this obvious.

(09-05-2015 03:51 PM)Teedub Wrote:  As I said on the related thread, the Syrians don't bother me. They are legitimate refugees

No they aren't, for reasons others have pointed out. And even so, it doesn't matter. This is a matter of survival now. They may be less bad than others for reasons you cite and which I agree with to some extent, but if you send the message that you'll let them in, tens of millions of more will follow.

And as you can see, it's a sea of cock.

Google trends regarding "stop migrants" vs "refugees welcome" doesn't look good though:

https://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=...%2FGMT%2B4

Of course, it's a bit unfair since there's no popular stupid hashtag bullshit for "stop migrants."

(09-05-2015 04:37 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I'm tempted to buy an Adidas jumpsuit and go follow the refugees around then buss out my perfect English on hot chicks to stay at thier places. Lame cover story like was just working on ships and by accident I got..

You are too old for hot chicks. And not dark enough. (But you could snag plenty of hausfraus. Including doing them in front of their cuck husbands).

Anywho....................

"Sitting on a sofa in their Vienna flat, they laughed as they planned their night out together. Although the conversation sounded like it could have been any exchange among flatmates, this flat-share was slightly unusual. Uche Daniel, 25, is a refugee from Nigeria. He had met his Austrian flatmates - Patricia Hartl and Simone Fidler - two weeks earlier through Flüchtlinge Willkommen (Refugees Welcome), an initiative inviting asylum seekers and refugees to stay in people's spare rooms instead of in mass accommodation centres.

"I wonder why it hasn't been done before," said 24-year-old Simone. "It just makes sense. People are having to sleep in tents while there are so many rooms free."

Translation: ""I wonder why it hasn't been done before," said 24-year-old Simone. "It just makes sense. We were having to travel abroad for strange while we could have so many foreign cocks roam free here."[/i]




http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/feature...40807.html