Post: #2301

Nothing is insurmountable...

I was out to dinner tonight with my daughter, an elderly family friend and her son and I managed to get the phone number of the smoking hot hostess (think Daisy Fuentes) at the restaurant on a Saturday night when they were slammed.

How it played out...

I stopped by the restaurant on my way home from swimming around 5:00. I went in and asked for a reservation for four at 7:00. The girl told me that they did not have anything available until 8:00.

I reached over and lightly put my hand on hers and told her I would have an elderly woman who couldn't see very well or walk very well and would appreciate what ever she could do. She smiled, blushed and looked down. When she looked back up she told me to come see her when we got there.

Fast forward two hours. I went home and my daughter (10 years old) and I showered and changed. When we got back to the restaurant they were swamped. As soon as she saw me she smiled and grabbed four menus. I told her that the other two weren't there yet. She said that she had a booth right now if we wanted it.

I took it. I asked her to let me know when the other parties arrived. She said she would keep an eye out for them. As she walked away she looked back over her shoulder and smiled. I would look at her periodically and when we would lock eyes she would always be the first to smile, blush and look away.

When our friends got there I walked out to the curb to help the elderly woman inside while her son parked the car. She held the door for us while we came back in. Miss Sally thanked her and told her what a pretty girl she was. Again, the girl smiling and blushing.

When it was time to go things had calmed down and the restaurant wasn't as busy. My daughter, Miss Sally and myself sat up front while her son went to get the car. The hostess made small talk with us while we were waiting.

When he pulled the car around I walked her out. My daughter stayed inside talking to the hostess. (future wing woman?). I went back in to get her, the hostess thanked us for coming and said she hoped to see us again.

I figured what the hell. I handed her my phone and she put her number in no questions asked.

I texted her around 9:30 to see what time she gets off. heh

She texted back at 10:20 that she just got off and was on her way to a friend's bday party. We back and forthed a few times. Going to try and get her to meet up Monday or Tuesday.

Oh yeah, I am going to be 44 in a few weeks. My guess is she is early 20's. I was there with my daughter and she didn't care. Maybe she's studying to be a teacher or something. Anyway, hopefully this will be continued in the "I just had sex" thread

Post: #2302

A possible phenomenon I've been wondering about recently -- could it be possible for one's approaches to be construed as "too indirect", or are other factors at play to my detriment?

Two examples here . . . the 1st was what prompted me to consider this. I drifted past an Indian clothes shop a few months ago, and scoping out the cute clerk, figured on going in. I make it like I'm looking for sandals, so she shows me the layout and all that. We have a brief chat on 'em, but transcend into another coupla topics, after which I ask if she'd like to get together some time later that today, to which she parries with somethin' about having to work and class and blah-blah. I then said, "Well, I meant after all that." I get her number, txt a few days later, to which she responds that she doesn't have any new sandals in yet. Ech. I follow up later with "let's meet". To this she responds, "for what?" Double-ech. I finalize with, "for a drink". She slams that with, "I'm engaged, so I'd really prefer to keep this at a professional level. Delete.

The other example was from today, but let me warm it up -- My 1st day back at the university went off to a rip-roaring start. 10 minutes into my first class I plant myself next to the first hottie that catches my fancy, strike up a chat ("Is that a good book?"), lay on my study-date template, and get the number. We'll see . . .

The prime business at hand went down after that class. I just happen to stumble upon another cute one from the same class, and so I approach her with a directions question, claiming to get lost around there often. I say, "Hey, we're in that same class from a few minutes ago." Throughout this exchange she's very receptive and friendly. Once again, I play the study-date card, and she asks for my number. Literally 5 minutes after I hand it off, and with her even knowing that I had gone to start another class, she txts me. We do a lil back and forth as I try and hammer out a meeting. Couldn't swing it the same day, only because I had all ready left by the time she confirmed she was freed up.

When I got home I looked her up on FB (I know, bad habit) and scoped some adorable pix of her with the boyfriend.

Now, I'm gonna work on this shit anyway, but my question to the great men of the forum would be . . . did this chick really think that my entire ploy was exclusively aimed at finding a study partner?

I would've liked to think of this latest one as a serious prospect, but now my circuits are all scrambled. I need some coaching.

Post: #2303

Going back to my old University for a year full time to get enough credits to sit for the CPA exam. Today was the first day of classes. Between work, parenting my son every other week, and my girlfriend it hasn't been feasible to rely on cold in person approaches to get numbers and bangs. Before being tied down I was a cold approach assassin. After getting tied down I had to rely on online game to get numbers. My attempt to start cold approaching again quickly highlighted the fact that cold approaching is a perishable skill.

I indirectly approached 5 or 6 girls while running around the university today. But I wasn't able to switch the conversation from the excuse I used to stop them to a general conversation. After going home I watched a couple of infield videos and diagnosed the problem.

I drove back out to the university as it was nearing dark determined to get at least one number. I walked around the quad and found groups of people playing games. There was a slackline set up in between two trees and an solid 8.0 redhead trying it with a couple of people she knew. I semi-isolated her and started talking to her about it. I changed the conversation from slack lining to her. Which was what I was having a problem with before. Asking her: what year are you, what's your major, etc. It was awkward as fuck! I'm far from the smooth operator I was a decade ago!

Anyway I tried for the number with this shitty line: "I don't really know to many people now that I'm back in this city. Maybe I could take you out sometime." She replied: "Yeah maybe, but probably not." I was pissed on the inside. I finally got the balls to go for the number, despite my fear and awkwardness; but this bitch couldn't even give me a yes or no answer?! I decided that if I was going to get rejected; then I was going to make her blatantly reject me in front of everyone.

I put my shoes on and she hopped on the slackline again. After she jumped off the slackline I pulled out my phone and said: "Let me get your number so I can text you." To my surprise she said: "Alright it's (XXX) XXX-XXXX. I texted her a few minutes after that, and she replied so it's a real number.

I have a lot of repetitions to put in before I'm back to where I was before. But the pure quantity, quality, and opportunity makes it a challenge that I can't afford to pass up.

Post: #2304

Approached solid brunette 8.5 at walmart near campus. Asked her if she knew where a certain type of binder was. Talked about her major, the city the college is in etc. Think I messed up by talking to her while messing around with supplies; instead of facing her and fully engaging her. She walked off somewhat quickly while we were talking. I’m counting this as an approach because she short circuited me before I could ask for the number.

Talked to a 6.8 freshman. Heard her talking to her friend about possibly dropping a class because it’s all the way across campus. Talked to her about where she was from, her major, asked her how she liked school. Asked for the number and got it. Texted her and haven’t heard back. We’ll see. My close was a lot smoother then last night though. So that's a plus.

Sat down and tried to talk to a 7.0 redhead at the union. She quickly shut me down twice.
Oh well.

It’s brutally hot out, and I’m starting to get sunburned. I think I’m going to stay out of the sun until it’s time to go to my next class; then approach after the sun isn’t so harsh. On a related note if anyone can recommend a light non-oily sunscreen for daily use until fall truly rolls around I’d be grateful.

Post: #2305

I recorded part of my approach yesterday:



Classic low key daygame stuff. I was about to pussy out, but I'm rereading Lone Survivor and I remembered the SEAL mindset. In the words of Marcus Luttrell, I was being a bitch, plain and simple.

Unfortunately I cut out the best part. I thought this was a bit boring, even for daygame standards, but listening to it again, it doesn't seem so (you really are your own worst critic - your doubt creates that). She actually asked me for my number. Texted her late last night. Hasn't texted me back yet though.

What I think you'll find starting out is that every conversation takes a life of its own, and you need to be prepared for that.

Post: #2306

(08-25-2015 01:34 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I recorded part of my approach yesterday:


Classic low key daygame stuff. I was about to pussy out, but I'm rereading Lone Survivor and I remembered the SEAL mindset. In the words of Marcus Luttrell, I was being a bitch, plain and simple.

Unfortunately I cut out the best part. I thought this was a bit boring, even for daygame standards, but listening to it again, it doesn't seem so (you really are your own worst critic - your doubt creates that). She actually asked me for my number. Texted her late last night. Hasn't texted me back yet though.

What I think you'll find starting out is that every conversation takes a life of its own, and you need to be prepared for that.

Some good rambling there man. I'm not an expert by any means but I think you should have let her talk a bit more. You'd ask a question and then cut her off way too many times.

Post: #2307

One more approach and many aborted approaches.

Was looking for a large class I signed up for. Ran across a cute 8.0 girl looking for the same class. We found the class, she seemed genuinely interested in me. Maybe it's because she was Majoring in the same field I've worked in. After the class I asked her for her number in case we needed to help each other out with class projects. I'm going to sit on this one until the semester is over then try and mine it.

Aborted approach. My last memorable aborted approach was a hot 8.7 blonde walking to the computer lab. Asked her about her classes, what year she was, etc. She was responding, but I wasn't getting the buy in that I got from the last chick so I ejected. Ejecting early was a mistake in hindsight. She wasn't shutting me down. She was just making me work, and I might have got the number. So I'm not counting this approach. I figure instead of writing my approaches down a player log I'll just use this thread as my list.

After only 2 days I already feel myself getting better with repetition; although I have a very long way to go. It's easier to see a woman and get inside her bubble by making an innocuous comment. I'm still having trouble with the transition; but it's getting better. I've been talking to a lot of strangers I run across; both male and female to try and flex my social muscles. The one thing I really notice is all of the "money left on the table" so to say. For every attempted approach I do I pass up probably hundreds of opportunities. At a large university young beautiful women are literally everywhere. I can't wait to see where I am in a month!

Post: #2308

(08-25-2015 02:43 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  Some good rambling there man. I'm not an expert by any means but I think you should have let her talk a bit more. You'd ask a question and then cut her off way too many times.

You're right. I tend to do this in a lot of my conversations. Good for establishing dominance but perhaps bad for forming deeper connections. A girl has to share her feelings with you.

Post: #2309

My last few approaches for today:

Was walking around campus looking for women to game. There were plenty of targets, but no low hanging fruit. Most of the foot traffic was coming towards me making for a harder pickup.

I went into the student life center to get out of the heat and saw an 8.0 brunette sitting at a computer with two empty spots next to her. I used to sit at a different spot whenever there was an open spot not next to an attractive female telling myself that I didn't want to look "creepy". That was just my male hamster giving me excuses to bitch out. Now when I see a couple of open spots I automatically sit down next to the cute girl. So I sit down next to the girl and open by asking her a question about the computer [they were gaming computers]. I started my usual rap: what year are you, what's your major, etc. It turned into a long ramble about a variety of topics. I ended up getting her number just as she was leaving. She seemed really into me.

While walking off campus I approach a 7.0 by making a comment about her shirt. We go back and forth. I was getting plenty of buy in, but I was still to close to where I picked up the 8.0 so I bail. I'm counting this one because: I was getting plenty of buy in, and would have asked for the number. But I made a tactical decision to bail. A good one imo because I saw her running with her friend a few minutes later and she waved to me.

While walking off campus across the street I was waiting at a crosswalk with a 9.5. This girl was beautiful, but what really struck me was the fact that the thought of talking to her didn't scare me at all. While we were walking I hit her with my rap. She was answering to be polite but she hinted that she was going on a date, and kept texting on her phone while walking. I kept trying to spit game to her, but she started walking faster as a way to give me a soft rejection. I'm counting this approach even though I didn't get a chance to ask for her number; because there wasn't really anything I could do short of running after her. In hindsight I should have tried harder to plow though and get the number.

I think I'm starting to understand the lay of the land. There seem to be three different archetypes for girls at my university:

Clueless/insecure girls - These are very new freshmen [no matter how hot]; the nerds; and anything under a 7.0.

The go getters - For lack of a better term these are career girls that haven't yet started their career. They want to do something with their lives and are already starting to look past school. If you're a young professional who's going back for a professional degree or accreditation these girls will be impressed with your achievements. I'll tack on girls that are curious about older guys to this list.

Party girls/stuck up sorority girls - These girls are young, are required to be hot as a prerequisite for their lifestyle, and don't give a fuck about life outside of the party scene and college/party social power structure. They most likely (but not always) are studying for a degree in underwater basket weaving. They aren't impressed with your professional success because they find working life boring. It doesn't matter if you have more money then their male cohort; because they simply spend daddy's money. The people most likely to bag these girls are the people at the top of the college power structure [jacked guys in a well regarded fraternity]. Along with people are at least semi-famous if only locally.

Post: #2310

(08-25-2015 06:12 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 02:43 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  Some good rambling there man. I'm not an expert by any means but I think you should have let her talk a bit more. You'd ask a question and then cut her off way too many times.

You're right. I tend to do this in a lot of my conversations. Good for establishing dominance but perhaps bad for forming deeper connections. A girl has to share her feelings with you.

Do you record phone in hand? I want to give this a try this weekend and get a critique. Good job by the way.

Post: #2311

(08-26-2015 06:24 PM)Mr Finish Wrote:  Do you record phone in hand? I want to give this a try this weekend and get a critique. Good job by the way.

No. It's in my pocket.

Post: #2312

(08-25-2015 01:34 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I recorded part of my approach yesterday:





Classic low key daygame stuff. I was about to pussy out, but I'm rereading Lone Survivor and I remembered the SEAL mindset. In the words of Marcus Luttrell, I was being a bitch, plain and simple.

Unfortunately I cut out the best part. I thought this was a bit boring, even for daygame standards, but listening to it again, it doesn't seem so (you really are your own worst critic - your doubt creates that). She actually asked me for my number. Texted her late last night. Hasn't texted me back yet though.

What I think you'll find starting out is that every conversation takes a life of its own, and you need to be prepared for that.

Were you guys walking along as you were talking? There's kind of a slapping sound every 15 or 20 seconds or so which makes me ask this.

Good content by the way.

Post: #2313

Back out approaching again!

Ive been approaching but not as much as I would've liked. Though today I got a day off from work and decided to go down to my local JUCO (Junior College) and participate in some of the the best times of the year.....the Fall Semester. Here is how it went

Approach 1

Im walking on campus a little later in the day so there aren't as many people out. When I spot this girl sitting on a park bench near a building in the middle of campus.

She has her head down so I don't really pay her any mind. I walk past and go into the building adjacent to her for water.

As I come back out I decide to pass on this chick, but something tells me to approach this chick.

As I near her to approach her she looks up and she is actually not bad. Brunette Cute eyes, a nice smile and a nose ring ( im a sucker for nose rings on girls). The only thing is that she had short hair and looked a tad bit older ( possibly late 20's). She has a tattoo on her shoulder so i open;

Me; where did you get that tattoo from

Her; oh i got it over at x shop in y

Me; is that shop over there good?

Her; yea its good i like alex's work a lot

Me; ya im looking to possible get somthing i just dont know if a tat will show up on my skin

Her; i don't know maybe it should.

Me; i just like asking people who are clearly in the tattoo culture about the right tattoo etiquette

Her; haha its not that bad

Me; how was class today

Her; it was good i have one more class to take today

Me; oh really what class

Her; weight lifting

Me; what !!! you do not look like a weight lifter

Her; haha i got hurt in my pe class last semester and started taking weight lifting and decided to take it this semester

Me; wow , how did you hurt yourself

Her; i hurt my hip flexor muscle

Me ; that muscle you have to REALLY stretch, when i used to play sports, we always would do this stretch that would feel so good.

Her; is it this one ( gets up and shows me a stretch)

Me; no its the one where you get on all fours and spread your legs, it looks like you're about to get it in the butt though it feels so good

Her; ( huge laugh) hahahhaha

Her; i haven't done that one no haha

Me; how do you like the weight lifting class

Her; its cool i like it

Me; thats dope, by the end of the class i bet you're going to be that asshole that is slamming weights and getting chalk all over the place

Her; hahahaha oh my god hahah

Her; whats your name

Me; Sketness and you

Her; yz

Me; (shake her hand) its nice to meet you

We talk and bullshit a little while longer, when she gets up to go to class.

Me; hey well lets hang out some time and grab coffee

Her; Ummm ( she takes about 4 seconds to think about it) ok

Me; (hands her my phone) put your number in

Her; ( she puts her number in)


Approach 2

Im leaving campus and walking by the bus stop, when I see this stunningly pretty black girl, tall slender ( a hard 7.5 - 8)

I almost pass her to cross the street but something tells me to go approach her, so I turn around and approach.

Me; excuse me do you know how to get a buss pass

Her; ( she takes out her earphones) has the buss passed?

Me; no how do you get a buss pass

Her; oh you can get them at the JUCO

Me; oh ok , are you from around here?

Her; me yes , but my parents are from Kenya

Me; my aunt is from Kenya

Her;(she lights up) oh really

We talk about Kenya for a while and I tell her some of my broken Kenyan and she laughs. I ask her about school and she its her first year at the JUCO. I sense the buss will come soon

Me; we should hang out sometime

Her; ok my number is XXX-XXX

Me; ( hands her phone ) put your number in

-------------------------------------------------

All in all it was a great day I grabbed two numbers and talked to a couple of girls in between those interactions.

Im currently texting both of them now so we will see.

Ive been going through a dry spell lately, so I've been just repeating this:

There are over a billion people on this planet. Your going to find a girl that will fuck with you its just a matter of looking.

Post: #2314

I bitched out yesterday. I did a couple of half ass approaches, but nothing I'd want to count. So I'm back on it today. I have to do at 8 approaches today to keep up my current pace.

8/27/15

Aborted approach does not count: I came to class late and sat next to an 8.5 blonde. Since I got in late she leaned over to let me look at her handout. I noticed that she was looking over at me, and breathing faster as if nervous. Obvious IOI's. I made some small talk as the class as ending, but I didn't go for the number. I'm still kicking myself in the ass for that one. It would have been an easy close. I hope she sits in the same seat next week so I can close her.

Approach #1 for today: I walked into a building to put on some sunscreen. As I was walking there was a solid 7.5 whitewashed black girl behind me. She thanked me, and I opened to her. I don't remember what the opener was, but I started spitting my standard script at her. Got the number. She seemed very interested. It was a huge shot in the arm and a good way to start off.

Approach #2 Saw an 8.5 brunette walking around with her ass hanging out of her pants. I opened to her by asking where student parking services was. She wasn't buying into my approach. Kept looking at her phone, but I tried to close the deal anyway. I asked her: "So who about we go out sometime?" She mumbled some half hearted rejection and walked away without looking at me. I also noticed I was talking too fast.

Approach # 3 Saw a decent 7.8 redhead. Did my parking services opener. She wasn't buying what I was selling. Shut me down before I got a chance to ask for the number by saying: "Well good luck with that. Bye!" I should have tried to plow though and asked for the number anyway. But right now I'm working on getting rid of my approach anxiety; then I'll worry more about my aggressiveness.

Approach #4 Saw another redhead walking around. Gave her my student parking opener. She was making me work, but gave me some buy in. I went for the close and got the number. She seemed amused that I had the balls to cold approach her in the daytime.

Just another four more approaches to go to stay on track. The sad thing is that most of these numbers will go bad because I already have 3 dates lined up for tonight; the rest of my weekend will be taken up by my girlfriend; then next week I parent my son the entire week. Looking forward to seeing him anyway. Even though it means I'll miss out on some quality opportunities family comes first.

Post: #2315

Last four approaches today. I'm officially off the clock for today. Any additional approaches I make will be for my own amusement.

Approach #5: Saw a smoking hot 9.5 walking towards me with headphones in. I approached before I had the time to think about it and be scared. I opened to her and started with my standard university rap. To my suprise she easily reciprocated. Trust me when I say that this girl was hot! Petite, gorgeous face, and turned out to be an 18 year old freshmen. She easily gave me the number, and I wasn't scared at any point during the approach. If its not a fake number, and she just texts me back then it will have made the experiment I've undertaken for the past few days worth it.

Approach #6: Open to another girl walking towards me with a direction opener. She's probably a solid 7.8. She gives me a couple of half assed answers and walks away. Next!

Approach #7: Talk to a girl in the school of hospitality. It seems to be going borderline. Ask her for her number, and she shoots me down. Try plowing though with a second request and she politely but firmly shoots me down again.

Approach #8 I approach a 6.8 with a shirt that says "gamer girl". Easy to open to her, easy ramble. I ask for her number and she gives it to me.

One potential tactic that i've been thinking of is the cell phone switch. That way I can try to put my number in the targets phone, while they put their number in mine; then text myself lessening the chance of getting a fake number.

Post: #2316

My last few approaches today while on campus:

#9 I went over and sat down next to a petite redhead to type out my last RVF post. After I was done I opened to her. She not much buy in at first, but then things seemed to be going well. Then she started talking about how "The lord told her to pick her major". I figured what the hell I'll still ask for her cell to add her to my daily body count. She shot me down giving me the weird excuse of: "I can't yet support myself so I don't give my number out." I tried to plow though just to see if I could get the number, but she wouldn't budge. In hindsite I was wearing mirrored sunglasses. So I think she may have seen the report in the reflection! lmao!

Aborted approach: Saw a decent looking girl walking the opposite direction. Stopped her with my student parking opener. The convo seemed to be going sort of ok but fizzled out. I'm on the borderline of counting this as an approach but I won't because I want to err on the side of honesty.

Approach #10 Saw a two set walking toward me. One of them had on a shirt with the name of a bar that almost looked like "Ashely Madison" I made a joke about her shirt. She quickly shut me down after that and started walking. oh well

After that I was feeling a little bit beat up. Both mentally and physically. I don't have the mental toughness some of the more seasoned cold approach players have anymore. If I hit a cold streak it starts to wear on me. So started bitching out and passing up approach opportunities for a while.

Approach #11 Sit down at an open table by a 6.8. As her to help me out with the vagaries of one of the universities computer systems. Start talking about kayaking. It turns out she's kayaking also. Get the number.

Aborted approach: Do a half hearted opener to a girl I see walking. I get no traction with her, but I didn't push; so I'm not counting this as an approach.

Post: #2317

(08-25-2015 06:12 PM)Libertas Wrote:  

(08-25-2015 02:43 PM)BetaNoMore Wrote:  Some good rambling there man. I'm not an expert by any means but I think you should have let her talk a bit more. You'd ask a question and then cut her off way too many times.

You're right. I tend to do this in a lot of my conversations. Good for establishing dominance but perhaps bad for forming deeper connections. A girl has to share her feelings with you.

Did the chick reply?

Post: #2318

Doing more night game now that I've moved into my new place across from the campus bar. A couple of approaches here and there, but only one really stands out.

Holy fuck elementary school teachers. It's been talked about before here on the forum in great detail, but I truly didn't believe it until tonight. It's now seriously on my target list. An 8 half Asian walks up to me sitting at the bar, and I clearly know from my peripheral vision and sense that she's behind me trying to signal to the bartender for a drink. I take advantage of this fact to hit her with an opener, asking if I need to move over so she can get to the bar. I'd say 85% of my approach anxiety/failure to open at this point in my game journey is failing to come up with a situational opener.

4th grade teacher from Richmond, grew up around this area, visiting parents for the weekend, and getting very drunk here before all the students come back to school. Sweet disposition, good looks, and young. If the rest of the forum holds true, very DTF as well.

Despite my banter, however, there was no way I could hook. In a vacuum, I might have been in with a shot, but in this instance, I was shorn of my best tactics. No accent, no fudging my age to not be a younger college student living in a dorm, no crazy life and travel stories, and my friend sitting next to me.

It was good to knock some of the rust off of genuine approaches; I'd been getting too dependent on Tinder and online again as of late.

Time to find some freshmen...

Post: #2319

(08-25-2015 01:34 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I recorded part of my approach yesterday:





Classic low key daygame stuff. I was about to pussy out, but I'm rereading Lone Survivor and I remembered the SEAL mindset. In the words of Marcus Luttrell, I was being a bitch, plain and simple.

Unfortunately I cut out the best part. I thought this was a bit boring, even for daygame standards, but listening to it again, it doesn't seem so (you really are your own worst critic - your doubt creates that). She actually asked me for my number. Texted her late last night. Hasn't texted me back yet though.

What I think you'll find starting out is that every conversation takes a life of its own, and you need to be prepared for that.

This was good. I want to try something like this.

I find I am getting "lazier" with my approaches. I suspect its just an excuse I say to myself as my AA starts creeping back in. At the moment, when I have the chance to approach, I tend not to hold a conversation for very long. Partly because I fear the awkwardness of nothing to talk about coming up so I inadvertently bail early.

Post: #2320

Upon the onset of the latest semester, the University has rocketed its way up to becoming my top venue. It can be monumentally intimidating, especially in the midst of the passing-period crowds, and surely, it's due to this attribute that I prompt myself to dive right in. I must engage, and take in all that the scene has to offer . . .

In each class, I quickly scope out the hottest girls, and plant myself in a convenient proximity so that I can start up chats regarding the class. These are typically followed up with a post-class walk-n-talk of the same flavor, engaging not only the girls I was able to converse with in class, but also any and every hottie in the room. Each class meeting, I'll pick out which one I'll try to engage, by where, after class, I'll breeze up alongside her and hit her with the "So, how are ya holdin' up in class?" line, which leads to the "study date" ploy. It's the most reliable opener I've yet to employ so as to at least get some familiarity started, as well as a rolodex of numbers to work with. This stunt requires a certain sharpness and spontaneity (don't they all), given how I'll typically be logistically-restricted to operating within the passing period. Make the best impression you can with the window you've got.

Strutting about during free time on campus allows for greater leeway, naturally. I saunter about, sniffin' around for whatever captures my fancy. I've been off to a decent start, engaging a wide variety. It's amazing, how, I've probably done more approaches in the last two weeks than in my 1st two semesters, my anxiety was so pronounced back then. Now, it's like I've donned a visor that permits me to really identify and act upon prospects. I think I mentioned to myself at some point, "Could there possibly have been this many beautiful women here last year? There had to have been, but I was barely doing shit about it."

Any and all progress I'll ever make I owe completely to this forum and its affiliate sites.

Post: #2321

8/31/15 - Worried about classes I decided to take it easy this week. But at least 50% of that decision was my male hamster talking.

Interaction - I'm not counting this as an approach, because the woman actually approached me instead. Cute Indian girl. She asks me for directions to some campus building. I say that I don't know where it is. She gets about half a step away and my brain kicks in. This woman opened to me it would be retarded if I didn't try to take it somewhere. I talk to her about where she's from, her major, etc.

After finding out she's a grad student I go for the number and get it. She texted me back. Hopefully I'll bag my first Indian.

Approach #1 - A blonde girl is walking behind me with her bike. I purposely slow down to match her speed. I open to her. Turns out she's in a sorority and headed to her sorority house. We talk about campus life, her major, etc. Number closed with her. She texted me back as well.

I think I need to start working on my text game to get better follow up logistics. Since I started treating text game like I used to treat online game I've gotten more replies after I get the number.

9/3/15

Approach #1 See a cute Hispanic girl while at the computer lab working on an assignment. Have a couple of back and forth comments with her, but she's too far away to have a convo with; and both of the seats next to her are occupied. About 1 and 1/2 hours in I take a break to stretch my legs. When I see her at the elevator I open to her with a question about the assignment. I end up getting the number, but when she's about to put it in the elevator comes up. She asks me for me phone and puts in her number.

We'll see if this one yields anything. One thing I've noticed is that if you hand women the phone and they put in their own numbers, they're more likely to give you a fake number or not reply. I think it's psychologically easier for them to enter a phone number that's one digit off then to verbally dictate a fake number for you to put into your phone.

Approach #2 - See a cute blonde with a crossfit t-shirt on walking the same way as me across campus. I open to her with a comment about her crossfit t-shirt. She's talking to me but I'm not getting much buy in. She splits off a separate way mid conversation without saying anything.

Approach #3 - Saw a 7 sitting in the hallway messing on her phone. I sit down next to her and pretend to mess with my computer. I open to her by asking what class she's waiting for. We have a pretty good conversation. We talk about our majors, how she wants to go to Europe, she tells me she's jealous that I've lived in Italy, etc. I thought I had this one in the bag. But then I ask her for her number and she denies me. I try one time to ploy though but she holds firm. I guess that just goes to show that you don't know what the final result of an interaction might be.

Post: #2322

Multiple prospects, multiple prospects, multiple prospects.

Post: #2323

My last two approaches for the day.

Approach #4 - See a petite Indian sitting down in the lobby. It try to tell my self to go over and talk to her, but I pussy out by sitting at a different table. I see her packing up to leave so I get up and time my walk so I intercept her. I get near her just as she's going out the door and she holds the door open for me. I ask her if she's done with classes for the day and headed home. We have a moderate back and forth going; but I'm slightly working to keep the conversation going.

While talking about our schedules I make an awkward comment in a awkward way. I know it's bad because I can tell that this is the exact second that I killed the interaction. Immediately after I do that she says: "Well nice to meet you. Bye!" and quickly leaves in another direction. Oh well I'll take it as a lesson learned.

Approach #5 I see a a 8.5 with raven hair walking in front of me. She keeps reaching back to mess with her backpack. Her zippers are open. I open to her by telling her that her back two zippers are open and her shades are about to fall out of her backpack. I start rapping to her. She shows moderate interest. Her major is actuarial science; I have a degree in a related field so my rap seems to be going pretty good. I get her number. but I make it a little bit weird when we part. I need to learn to keep my mouth shut after I ask for the number while they're trying to comply. Well see what happens with her. I'm not expecting much.

Post: #2324

The college scene presents what has become among the most prominent, and yet, interesting challenges - while in the very midst of executing an approach, maybe 9 other fucking gorgeous girls will stroll by at differing time intervals . . . and I'll feel an urge to actually disengage from the current play in order to give chase upon an even more intriguing target. Jesus. Lock on to ONE prospect, see it through, and then move on.

That kind of shit would weigh on me while still mired in the chasing phase, as I'd be honing in on one girl, but get latched on to another goin' in an opposite direction, and then even a 3rd time, culminating in [i]zero[/] actual approaches. Again, focus on one, play it through, and only then move along onto the next object of desire.

Post: #2325

9/4/15 - Approach #1 Just did one approach today. Saw two university students at a burger king. Neither one was anything to brag about 6-6.5's. Opened to one of them by complementing her on her shirt, asked her about her major, etc. The approach fizzled out when the clerk asked me for my order. I tried to reopen with an indirect opener and they ignored me.

Went home and slacked off for the rest of the day. When I was home I broke my no-fap rule because I was so horny that I couldn't concentrate. I texted a low value booty call and tried to hold out; but she was running behind.

I need to be more disciplined and mix my approaches into my day to day activities. Going out to intentionally cull numbers is always good; but I have difficult classes to study for and a kid to take care of! Both of those things require a lot of time. In order to stay focused on school and women I need to multitask more effectively and keep my eye on the ball. I fucked up by wasting most of the day on bullshit today. I have to do better otherwise I'm going to run my ship into the rocks.