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Here name is Diana Davison, and she is a bit of celebrity in the MRA community.

Post: #2

Never heard of her.

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Post: #4

Let me guess her issue with Roosh: Traditionalism or whatever is bad and we need the same thing as feminism but for men because equality.

Post: #5

Short hair? 2/10 WNB.

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Post: #7

Is there a transcription of the video?

Post: #8

"Worships women"?
This girl has serious reading/listening comprehension deficits.

Post: #9

Just watched the video. Whilst she was at times dismissive of Roosh, I don't think she was intentionally or maliciously taking a shot at him. She makes out that he, and by extension neomasculinity are seeking female validation, stating Roosh worships women. The video was more about how feminist / SJW types are over reacting to any threat that he and his message represent. She completely dismisses the idea that Roosh promotes 'rape culture', and that the only reason he could be interpreted as dangerous to SJW's is because he promotes the betterment of men's lives.

Post: #10

The irony being there'll be more of these internet nobodies around trying to get reactions out of Roosh just for the page traffic it might bring them.

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This is the type of person I refer to as a "plastic fruit". A man's response to this is indicative of his willingness to take a bite.

As the rotten fruit of an infected tree lie on the ground in morbid decay, only a fool frantically hangs plastic fruit on the branches instead of curing the disease or cultivating a new seed. Many times over, this will not allow you to see the orchard, for there are no trees. The fool continues taking advice of the ones that want and need you to fail and become dependent on them to cosmetically and emotionally sell you temporary, ornamental happiness.

That is, until Blackness drips down and reveals the deception that this cannot be real and everything is not what it seems. You've been lied to about everything and you cannot repair the lies. But this is not the end, it is just the beginning.

I would never listen to a woman MRA and take it at face value, especially when it contains verbiage like this video.

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Quote:This is the type of person I refer to as a "plastic fruit". A man's response to this is indicative of his willingness to take a bite.

As the rotten fruit of an infected tree lie on the ground in morbid decay, only a fool frantically hangs plastic fruit on the branches instead of curing the disease or cultivating a new seed. Many times over, this will not allow you to see the orchard, for there are no trees. The fool continues taking advice of the ones that want and need you to fail and become dependent on them to cosmetically and emotionally sell you temporary, ornamental happiness.

That is, until Blackness drips down and reveals the deception that this cannot be real and everything is not what it seems. You've been lied to about everything and you cannot repair the lies. But this is not the end, it is just the beginning.

What on Earth does it mean to be "cosmetically" dependent?

Anyway, the "real alphas don't need women in their lives to succeed" nonsense has been around since at least the days of the original Roissy. The only thing new here is that it's coming from a woman with short hair and weird highlights.

Post: #13

(08-24-2015 12:26 AM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  

Quote:This is the type of person I refer to as a "plastic fruit". A man's response to this is indicative of his willingness to take a bite.

As the rotten fruit of an infected tree lie on the ground in morbid decay, only a fool frantically hangs plastic fruit on the branches instead of curing the disease or cultivating a new seed. Many times over, this will not allow you to see the orchard, for there are no trees. The fool continues taking advice of the ones that want and need you to fail and become dependent on them to cosmetically and emotionally sell you temporary, ornamental happiness.

That is, until Blackness drips down and reveals the deception that this cannot be real and everything is not what it seems. You've been lied to about everything and you cannot repair the lies. But this is not the end, it is just the beginning.

What on Earth does it mean to be "cosmetically" dependent?

I'm saying I believe she is faking it to try and get men to subscribe and support her. She's selling her promotion for her event. From this video, she doesn't want men to succeed. She wants us to go find our "worth" or some BS, and accuses Roosh of needing validation and approval of women to be happy. I have never felt like this cause and effect was close to being his message.

However, she is happy to put out this video saying there's hope. Just come on down and join her.

Post: #14

LOL, she is actually taunting Roosh in the comments, saying she can pick more chicks then him.

Post: #15

It's funny how during her "impressions" of him, she uses none of his actual openers.

Post: #16

Irrespective of Diana Davison's "shots" at Roosh, which were weak at best; the crux of her argument is that by simply paying attention to women he "values women more than they deserve" and "puts women on a pedestal".

She feels that this is wrong. Instead, she feels men should be completely MGTOW, and "get a sense of self worth and validation without the approval of women". She goes on to say that men should "completely shut women out of [their] life".

In actual fact, the central thesis to her diatribe is the philosophical battle between MGTOW and Neomasculinity.

With respect to women, each generally proposes as follows:

MGTOW: no interaction with women whatsoever

Neomasulinity: selected interaction with women on our own terms

Speaking for myself, MGTOW is not a solution because it doesn't allow for procreation. Taken to an extreme, all this will do is eventually remove Alpha male genes from the gene pool.

Neomasculinity, on the other hand, does allow for propagation of Dominant Alpha genes.

The central question at hand for the Neomasculine philosophy, gentlemen, is:

What are the terms to be for "selected interaction" with women?

I look forward to hearing from Roosh, and our other thought leaders, on what these might be.

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(08-24-2015 02:46 AM)HowardRourke Wrote:  Irrespective of Diana Davison's "shots" at Roosh, which were weak at best; the crux of her argument is that by simply paying attention to women he "values women more than they deserve" and "puts women on a pedestal".

She feels that this is wrong. Instead, she feels men should be completely MGTOW, and "get a sense of self worth and validation without the approval of women". She goes on to say that men should "completely shut women out of [their] life".

In actual fact, the central thesis to her diatribe is the philosophical battle between MGTOW and Neomasculinity.

With respect to women, each generally proposes as follows:

MGTOW: no interaction with women whatsoever

Neomasulinity: selected interaction with women on our own terms

Speaking for myself, MGTOW is not a solution because it doesn't allow for procreation. Taken to an extreme, all this will do is eventually remove Alpha male genes from the gene pool.

Neomasculinity, on the other hand, does allow for propagation of Dominant Alpha genes.

The central question at hand for the Neomasculine philosophy, gentlemen, is:

What are the terms to be for "selected interaction" with women?

I look forward to hearing from Roosh, and our other thought leaders, on what these might be.

If you need someone to tell you what to think, I'm sorry to say you're probably in the wrong forum.

I am not saying you're a leftie, but the defining trait of leftists is that they have a need to be in the fold, that they are thinking the same thing as everyone else. This invariably leads to purges and heresies and doxxings and outings and so forth. Leftist thought in all its forms, from feminism to communism, cannot survive independent or unapproved ideas because its unifying force is the mob. A mob cannot have more than one idea, and by definition cannot be rational.

Neomasculinity provides a set of core values by which it is suggested men are best served living by in today's world. Beyond that it does not force you what to think. You determine your own terms of interaction with women. This is consistent with the greater principle, the principle that drives all successful men: take responsibility for your own life. Neomasculinity is tool, not tenet.

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(08-24-2015 12:04 AM)Paracelsus Wrote:  The irony being there'll be more of these internet nobodies around trying to get reactions out of Roosh just for the page traffic it might bring them.

Yep, as Roosh becomes more well known. There could well be, more copycats & more folk trying to ride his coat-tails for their own benefit.

Post: #19

Who?!

Post: #20

This is why you can't really trust women in any self proclaimed "MRA" role. They are there to make a name for themselves and seek attention. When they finally get a platform with a regular audience then the hamster starts to reveal itself in its full glory.

Post: #21

A female MRA? not watching.

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As my profile rises, you'll see more people fake "attacking" me to get exposure to their own platforms.

Post: #24

Not gonna waste 11 minutes watching that, but the premise seems to be that once again MGTOW abandons any semblance of social responsibility and natural masculinity.

The calling seems to be to surrender to the hedonistic entropic forces taking over. These guys would just duck their heads down and pray that nothing happens while their country is being invaded. They deny the natural masculine role of leading women and society and simply throw up their hands because they can't hack it.

Any game is "pussy begging" because that would require taking action. They completely ignore how you become a better man in the process, even without the sex (honing your leadership potential, gaining confidence, making new social circles, etc.).

And let's be honest, the biggest motivating factor for men to do things is getting pussy. Always has been, always will be. Men built civilization and created art and science subconsciously to get pussy (someone alluded to this in that thread about the Alabama sorority video). This is why men do things, because the mating game in the animal kingdom requires males to perform. That's just the way it is. You can accept it or make excuses and be miserable. Game and building things, even if you want sex as a benefit, is not "pussy begging," it's fulfilling your natural role. These guys make everything out to be "gynocentric" and "pussy begging" because they want excuses not to do things.

Post: #25

Well, at least she didn't call Roosh a rapist.