(08-20-2015 12:13 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote: I'm not talking about using "stereotypical black guy" game, I'm talking about owning and leveraging your outsider status. A status that comes as a side effect of being black. Kind of like peacocking.
She's not necessarily looking for "black guys", just a good time. If you can provide her that good, emotionally stimulating time, you can game her. But it has to be on your terms.
And I'm not talking about stereotypical black game either. What I meant by "black" game was highlighting that you're different. An outsider by default is at an disadvantage when wanting to game the standard women of what "said" city/country has to offer. The more you highlight it, the more difficult it's going to be. The thing with leveraging your "outsider" status is that it's really a prescreening technique. So when your trying to leverage it, you're going to get a certain type, a girl that doesn't fit the social norms, buckle social convention for some odd dick, or an outlier of that specific group and that's what you're going to get as it's implied when you use your "outsider" status.
(08-20-2015 12:13 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote: The simple fact of the matter is you can't compete with white guys at "white guy" game. If a girl is into white dudes, she's not going to go for a "white wannabe" or second-hand minority. Why? If she's into white guys she wants white guys, not guys who can pretend or fit into being a white guy.
Second I don't know enough facts about your asian friend to judge the situation, game-wise. My guess is the girls are "predisposed" to liking asian dudes and you don't yet realize it.
Of course a minority isn't going to be able to compete with white guys at "white" game. But the objective end goal here is getting results. The percent of girls whom would date a minority under the right circumstances (game, money, status, etc) is larger then that of the "foreign groupies". So if a minority is focused on this group, he's going to get more results.
Back to my friend, he is clearly asian (physically) but he isn't stereotypical. He has interest/hobbies that is "white". To keep things into perspective, he's always been like this, I guess you can call it "white washed". And this is why he's able to pull. But it doesn't mean the girls he pulls are predisposed to liking asian guys. If that was the case then how come he's the only asian they been with? Because he has enough game and the same interest with these girls AKA not "asian". Asian guys who are "asian" aren't going to pull these girls.
(08-20-2015 12:13 PM)BossOfBosses Wrote: That's because in "interracial" porn there's more of a contrast and it's seen as more "taboo" due to the historical situation between whites/blacks. Girls are told to do it later in their careers when they can get the most money. They also fuck light-skinned/mixed black dudes and it's not called interracial.
My point is, a higher percentage of porn girls fuck black dudes than the general white girl population, because the context has changed. Get them in a different context where you are not at a disadvantage and the odds change in your favor.
In porn, black is black. A porn chick that fucks a mix/light skin black is still labeled "interracial".
As I said, porn is skewed. The reason a higher percent of white porn chicks that fuck black guys then the general white population is because the porn industry is heavily skewed towards women whom are a lot more open minded then the general population. The context never changed here. These same girls would fuck a black guy in the right circumstances outside of porn because as I already said, they're a lot more open minded at trying different things. But this doesn't represent the whole.
It's like when guys on a big penis site argues that the average size is bigger because the average size on the site is bigger. Well of course the average size on the site is bigger then the general population because it's a site that's skewed towards guys who are bigger then average.
(08-20-2015 06:35 AM)Moma Wrote: VS models have to eat and go out in public. Since they don't live in an alternate universe, men can meet them and game them. Game is not limited to the bar, pub or club environment.
Of course. What I was trying to say, was that VS models aren't likely going to be in normal social settings. Due to that alone they'll never get one. Now the rare time they go out in public, 99.99% of men are still never going to meet one, let alone talk to one.
Take a look at LA. This place has a disproportionate amount of celebrities then any other city in the US. Yet even then most people in LA don't see celebrities at random places. Maybe once or twice a year but this isn't something the average person in LA sees, once in a blue moon, sure. I can recall seeing Tom Cruise having a meal with someone last year but he was the last celebrity I saw since.
(08-20-2015 01:28 PM)rudebwoy Wrote: Everyone has their point of view, I am not here to change that.
I have dated a few girls who had not dated a black guy before, I was able to get them at the right time. I could come on here and say I used "game" but that isn't keeping it 100.
I know black dudes outside of America, who are killing it. The sad truth is these guys probably don't have half of what the average black guy on this forum has. What they do have is a mouth and big balls to approach any women they like in ANY surroundings.
Having a nice ride, apartment, money, good build etc is great, but a wise old man told me that he can roll up to any girl on his ten speed bike and game her. The sad truth is that I have seen him do it.
I don't know which girls are pre-disposed to black men, frankly I don't care. I do know every girl is pre-disposed to dick.
If you have listened to our podcasts, you have heard most guests talk about dealing with girls outside of their realm.
Archie picking up a confederate flag wearing chick at a country bar in Texas.
Kai dealing with girls in rural China, who more than likely haven't seen a black guy.
Distant Light gaming model bitches in NYC, preferring tall Asian girls.
Jof Superman running game without any excuses.
Yours truly, meeting girls in many countries who are half my age or more. Even in my own city, I had to turn away the 18 year old Vietnam intern hottie at my work. She ignored all the other "white college dudes" that would be more age appropriate for her.
This entirely misses my point. Guys regardless can get results, the difference is the level of ease and likelihood of success when gaming outside of your "market". If you were to approach 100 standard white girls, there's going to be a clear difference with a white guy with things being all equal. You can still get results but it isn't going to be the same. I know a number of guys regardless that are killing it and what's the thing they all have in common? Game, lots of work and high volume.
Some of you seem to be "surprise" that you're the first black guy. Firstly, white women make the majority. They're the majority at clubs/bars, work, school, etc, and add that they've most likely never been with anyone that wasn't white. So if approach a white girl, she is most likely going to end up being the normal standard white girl, and if you approach enough, you're bound to eventually pull one and waola, you're the first "said" race. Remember, there are millions of white girls so you'll eventually succeed with one but this isn't a measure of what most are like.
It's like measuring a guys attractiveness base off of his lay count. So if a guy has a 100 lay count then he must be more attractive then a guy who has 20. Is this the case? No, because a lay count is just that, a number, it doesn't factor in quality, ease, etc.
Distant Light isn't even "black". He has a lot of things going for him that the average guy doesn't also. The other two IDK. And JofSuperma from what I can recall messages a lot of women and is playing the sugar daddy route online.