Post: #1

Every year in the first half of the month of August an international folklore festival of dance is held in an otherwise non-descript town in the northeast corner of England, a place which also happens to be my hometown. Given that my tiny hometown is an otherwise highly homogeneous town in terms of ethnic makeup, the arrival of people from all four corners of the earth adds an oddly incongruent element of colour and excitement to the otherwise Stalinist grey concrete backdrop. Furthermore, this backdrop affords one the opportunity to compare women from differing cultures, with the most glaring contrast being between women from the non-Western hemisphere and the local female demograpic.

One such salient difference I've noticed is in the facial expressions and demeanour of foreign women. Firstly, non-Western women, such as the dancers from Colombia that I observed walking around the town yesterday, did not avert their glances away from me when I entered into their immediate vicinity. Furthermore, not only do they seem to have an interest in the people that are around them, but one of them actually smiled at me as she was passing, which would have been inconceivalbe had she been a local, with the stock response of local women being either to look down at the ground when passing a man of her or similar age or to flick her head quickly to the side and pretend like she is looking into a shop window. Secondly, I was struck by the warmth of the smiles that I saw around me. Remember, they were not on stage but merely walking around before or after a performance and did not have to affect any such thing. It also struck me forcibly how this warmth - a genuine smile where the eyes reflect a genuine depth of emotion and capacity for compassion - is something I have not witnessed with a woman in my age range from the Anglosphere for a long while and seeing other women behave like this reminded me how much Anglo women have lost in recent years, not just in terms of classical femininity, but even in terms of basic humanity, with their social media-fuelled solipsistic mindset which likes nothing better than to avoid all contact with anybody but those in their immediate social clique. Finally, the male dancers from overseas I noticed also behaved significantly different to the local men when going about their business between being on stage - they didnn't slouch when walking, seemed much more confident and collected and the dynamic between them and their female dancing partners seemed to be much more respectful on the female side, in a way that I find rather hard to describe in words here.

Curiously, though, I was confronted this morning with a completely different scenario as a group of dancers were alighting from a coach which was parked in the centre of town. As I moved closer towards it, a group of young women - around the age of early 20s - decked out in their dancing rags came towards me and there was a noticably different and more toxic vibe to their demeanour, which seemed to me curiously reminiscent of the local English women. As I took a closer look at them, more than one of their number stared at me with that now all-too-familiar bitch scowl and one of them even screwed up her face as if to mentally reprimend me for having the temerity to look in her direction. My immediate reaction was to think that they must be the British contingent in the festival, until I checked online and found that there was no other group from the Anglosphere except from the USA. After hearing the American accent of one of the guys accompanying them I had my confirmation and all the dominoes fell into place for me.

One thing these encounters I've had over the past couple of days have made aware is that there is an inherent abuse, albeit a low grade one, in the behaviour of British and other women from the Anglophere in their everyday interactions with men on the street. This abuse assumes the form of a perpetual disrespect towards men, through a refusal to even look in their direction, let alone signal any recognition as to the presence of them, such as with a smile or even any eye contact whatsoever. This maladjusted behaviour strikes me as serving the purpose of self-validation more than anything else, since by the woman pre-emptively averting her gaze, she thereby automatically reinforces a power relationshiop of supplicant-master with the male in her presence, thus placing herself on a pedestal as being the one that is, in her eyes, highly coveted and making clear that it is always within her power to confer recognition by duly withholding it. It's akin to a child stamping on bumble bees to prove that he is the stronger party and should be called for what it is: a toxic and sick form of behaviour that I fear has now become so well-established that many men, especially the younger guys on here without much experience of interacting with non-Western women, don't even recognize as being toxic and disrespectful. But imagine that, every time an old person started making small talk at the bus stop with you, you would deliberately walk several paces away from them and, when they did try to engage you in conversation, I would turn my back and simply ignore them. Now ask yourself what effect would this have over time on the person on the receiving end? Yet this is the equivalent behaviour of women these days in the UK towards their male peers and in other parts of the Anglosphere such as the US and Canada.

Incidentally, I'm not just referring to random strangers passing by on the street here, but even with neighbours that have been living side by side for years. For example, there's a young woman who lives in my street that I forwarded a parcel to one morning after she was not at home and the postman had left the package with me. About a week later, I passed this woman on the street and her reaction was to completely ignore me by looking down at the ground as I approached her in the opposite direction, despite the favour that I had done her and the fact that I was perfectly civil towards her when I handed her the parcel. The point to take away here is that this behaviour is far from the exception but rather the rule: The women here are extremely averse to any contact with men outside of their immediately social circle and will look visibly annoyed if you even attempt to make eye contact with them, let alone say hello to them. It is only after interacting with women from outside of the UK, especially outside of the Western hemisphere, that I have come to realize how truly toxic Anglo women have become in public.

Has anybody else on here also noticed this? Or, for that matter, had the opportunity to compare Anglo women with foreign women side by side?

Post: #2

Hate to say it, but you're preaching to the choir here.

Post: #3

I think the looking away / not paying attention / having a (low but constant) disrespect for local men comes down to perceiving them as lower status.

Some reasons I can think of:

• when men as a whole transfer around 20% of their income to women through various types of government measures (like healthcare), this turns men from "100% equal" into "80% equal, 20% slave"
• with the amount of attention women get through social media and the dating market, they gather an inflated sense of self
• any actual relationship with a man (no matter whether platonic or sexual) has the potential of endangering their sense of superiority
  

I would not interpret too much into the behaviour of the non-Western women though since they are on holiday - they have free time, everything is different and interesting - them holding eye contact and being friendly in this special situation does not mean they act the same towards their local men back home.

Post: #4

(08-14-2015 09:22 AM)Sgt Wrote:  I would not interpret too much into the behaviour of the non-Western women though since they are on holiday - they have free time, everything is different and interesting - them holding eye contact and being friendly in this special situation does not mean they act the same towards their local men back home.

Interesting point you mentioned there, in saying that being friendly in this special situation does not mean they act the same towards their local men back home.

I think I'll really have to agree with you there - at least according to my experience in Latin America.

Women there are not easy for local men either. They are just for you because you are white and blonde and tall (like all the guys in the movies, ads, etc.) and thus for them being seen with you means higher status. Which is probably one of the #1 things women around the world care about anyway if I'd have to sum it up.

Post: #5

Another thing to take into account is:

Women have status and reputation in their area, so when they're away from it they know they can do whatever they want without fear of backslash at home. They can have sex with many guys at once, receive a bukkake and return home and marry a provider as a semi-virgin. Bitch will say she only had two boyfriends in her life (as "I only slept with two guys in my whole life").

That's why I avoid asking about social-circles. If the girl knows we have friends in common, less likely she'll act "free". She'll have to pretend she's not an easy target, making it hard to make out and go to my place.

Post: #6

As if youre from Billingham, I was living in Boro for the last year and just moved to Newcastle, ive even heard of that festival being that my hobbies integrate with dancers and gymnasts. Shame dude I live in newcastle now, if youre ever in the area give me a shout.

Edit: Also if it isn't already obvious enough you should really get out of that area for your own well being. Dry spells over there kill a man inside, I had to go on regular trips home and go on "holidays" which was really just me renting property in a foreign country and working from there for a month (i just work from home). I thought it was a good idea to move in with some friends over there (I went to uni at Teesside) and while I really enjoyed living with them the female situation over there is extremely dire.

You are living in a place where "the Parmo" is over glorified, of course everyone is going to be over weight, it's literally the fattest town/city whatever it is now I've lived in all my life. I didn't notice this till I had to spend last summer there, and when all the students left holy shit was it bad.

People there are poor, like really poor, their industry was taken away from them so the job market is dire, this reflects in available women simply because only the lower class is reproducing and the middle/upper class moved away.

You need to move to EE or Asia or something and stop wasting your time, it was slim pickings for me and I'm 24 now. I locked down the first available slim girl I met (got lucky she literally only ate one meal a day) towards the end of my stay there because I knew I wasn't getting any better.

Seriously dude, get out of there.

Post: #7

It's stuff like your post that makes me want to get out of New York for a good period of time. One can only deal so much with the phenomenon that you describe.

Post: #8

Yeah here in Australia people come from all corners of the earth, so at first glance you can't tell who's Australian and who isn't.

But I have a fool-proof way to tell the women apart. Any pleasant looking or smiling one has to be foreign, because real Australian women (including various backgrounds, like Asian, EE, Middle Eastern etc.) will give you a scowl, roll her eyes at you or look through you as if you're invisible instead.

Two recent women I dated are foreign. I met the first (Scandinavian) at a bar, she was dancing around looking really happy and smiled at me when I approached her making eye contact. The second one (Slavic) sat down next to me at a bar and introduced herself.

Australian women never do any of those. I imagine other Anglosphere women are similar.

You are not alone with your observations. They are spot on.

Post: #9

As a guy in his mid 20s, was there ever a time when most of the "anglo-sphere" women didnt act like this? Or this is just a development within the last 10 to 15 years?

Post: #10

(08-16-2015 05:21 AM)optimus Wrote:  Another thing to take into account is:

Women have status and reputation in their area, so when they're away from it they know they can do whatever they want without fear of backslash at home. They can have sex with many guys at once, receive a bukkake and return home and marry a provider as a semi-virgin. Bitch will say she only had two boyfriends in her life (as "I only slept with two guys in my whole life").

That's why I avoid asking about social-circles. If the girl knows we have friends in common, less likely she'll act "free". She'll have to pretend she's not an easy target, making it hard to make out and go to my place.

Tested and proved here in Bs As. Some foreign girls goes full slut here, but back home they are the inmaculate virgins.

Post: #11

(08-16-2015 09:59 AM)Rompetoto Wrote:  As a guy in his mid 20s, was there ever a time when most of the "anglo-sphere" women didnt act like this? Or this is just a development within the last 10 to 15 years?

When I first started venturing out of my social circle as a teenager in the late 90s, it was a different World.

Post: #12

(08-16-2015 11:00 AM)CrashBangWallop Wrote:  

(08-16-2015 09:59 AM)Rompetoto Wrote:  As a guy in his mid 20s, was there ever a time when most of the "anglo-sphere" women didnt act like this? Or this is just a development within the last 10 to 15 years?

When I first started venturing out of my social circle as a teenager in the late 90s, it was a different World.

Interesting in what ways ?

Post: #13

(08-16-2015 09:59 AM)Rompetoto Wrote:  As a guy in his mid 20s, was there ever a time when most of the "anglo-sphere" women didnt act like this? Or this is just a development within the last 10 to 15 years?

It was very different in Australia 10 years, or even just 7-8 years ago before social media. Women used to be friendlier and much more approachable, as Australians in general are (used to be) known for.

Outside of Game context, even older people like my parents have noticed this. For example, the checkout chicks at supermarkets used to greet them with big smiles, hows-your-day and thank-you pleasantries, now they have their bitch shield on and barely acknowledge their existence. And that's customer service work, where they're paid and supposedly trained to be pleasant.

The young guys are still the same friendly type.

Post: #14

(08-16-2015 08:31 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

(08-16-2015 09:59 AM)Rompetoto Wrote:  As a guy in his mid 20s, was there ever a time when most of the "anglo-sphere" women didnt act like this? Or this is just a development within the last 10 to 15 years?

It was very different in Australia 10 years, or even just 7-8 years ago before social media. Women used to be friendlier and much more approachable, as Australians in general are (used to be) known for.

Outside of Game context, even older people like my parents have noticed this. For example, the checkout chicks at supermarkets used to greet them with big smiles, hows-your-day and thank-you pleasantries, now they have their bitch shield on and barely acknowledge their existence. And that's customer service work, where they're paid and supposedly trained to be pleasant.

The young guys are still the same friendly type.

Yes, that's exactly the same story in England. Most of the time, checkout chicks here are not rude as in outright insulting, but seem incapable or unwilling to engage in the simple courtesy of actually looking at the customer when they are giving him his change and would rather choose to look in any direction than the customer if he happens to be a male around their own age. Furthermore, I've increasingly noticed a certain bitchiness if you happen to query something and they become visibly irritated that you've had the temerity to get them involved in the first place, even if it is something they should be responsible for.

But the point here I'd like to make is there has been a change over the last few years of women behaving much more stand-offishly towards men which seems to coincide with both the parallel development of social media on the one hand and the widespread emergence of the "princess complex", on the other.

Post: #15

Just numbered closed with a Chinese student girl, aged around 21, slim and quite pretty, of the nerdy variety, that I met at the bus stop near my home town on the way back from a day of gaming scowling Anglo bitches and getting blown out left and right. I really cannot believe the difference in general vibe between these two nationalities of women. The Chinese girl, although very shy and somewhat reluctant to make too much eye-contact, was blushing and acting very girly during most of the interaction and, in contrast to most of the English girls I approach, even asked questions about me and listened with interest. The most salient feature I noticed, though, was the presence of these long since vanished qualities in Anglo women: femininity and warmth. Furthermore, I detected a certain respectfulness towards me which I note is mostly lacking in encounters with women from the UK, that one might characterize as a general disdain for the male gender and which is palpable in its intensity in many instances.

By way of example: just before I was about to ask her for a date, her bus turns up and there's only one every hour to where she needed to get to. Rather than just leave me with a quick, "Sorry, no time, my bus has arrived", she actually ends up missing her bus to give me her number, which I apologize to her for. Even more noticeable was the fact that as she tried to rush for her bus, she even reached out and clasped my hand before getting on it by way of saying goodbye, which I thought was quite touching.

Even though this girl may well flake, the positive experience of this encounter was so detached from what I have ever experienced gaming British girls that I'm seriously considering only gaming Chinese girls from now on, since, if the reception I got from this girl is in any way typical of Chinese student girls, then the difference with Anglo women is surely one night and day. After this encounter I was struck forcibly by how much my experience with UK women thesedays resembles being trapped inside an episode of The Twilight Zone - their almost paranoid aloofness and even aversion to any form of contact with men with whom they are not already acquainted creates a vibe that is impossible to overlook.

Are any other guys on here living in the Anglosphere who avoid local women and only game foreign girls?

Post: #16

I'm not sure if this video has been posted on here before but Atlantic showed it to me and it pretty much sums up the whole Anglo women Vs any other women debate. A TV host goes to Poland and asks local women what they think of Irish men who are there for a football tournament, the snarky bitch acts shocked when the women give positive reviews. Near the end she interviews some Irish pigs who also complain that the "talent is lacking" for Irish men.




I don't think that US or Canadian women would be so harsh on their own men, maybe its an Irish thing to be such cunts?

Post: #17

(12-16-2015 05:29 PM)scotian Wrote:  I'm not sure if this video has been posted on here before but Atlantic showed it to me and it pretty much sums up the whole Anglo women Vs any other women debate. A TV host goes to Poland and asks local women what they think of Irish men who are there for a football tournament, the snarky bitch acts shocked when the women give positive reviews. Near the end she interviews some Irish pigs who also complain that the "talent is lacking" for Irish men.




I don't think that US or Canadian women would be so harsh on their own men, maybe its an Irish thing to be such cunts?

Honest question for Irish and Polish people:

Is it acceptable in your country to speak to strangers while wearing sunglasses?

Post: #18

(12-16-2015 05:46 PM)LE50 Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:29 PM)scotian Wrote:  I'm not sure if this video has been posted on here before but Atlantic showed it to me and it pretty much sums up the whole Anglo women Vs any other women debate. A TV host goes to Poland and asks local women what they think of Irish men who are there for a football tournament, the snarky bitch acts shocked when the women give positive reviews. Near the end she interviews some Irish pigs who also complain that the "talent is lacking" for Irish men.




I don't think that US or Canadian women would be so harsh on their own men, maybe its an Irish thing to be such cunts?

Honest question for Irish and Polish people:

Is it acceptable in your country to speak to strangers while wearing sunglasses?

Given the haughty disdain of women for men in the Anglosphere that this video magisterially captures, the snarky interviewer's wearing sunglasses is the least objectionable facet of everything that is obnoxious about her attitude.

Post: #19

delete

Post: #20

(12-16-2015 05:50 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:46 PM)LE50 Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:29 PM)scotian Wrote:  I'm not sure if this video has been posted on here before but Atlantic showed it to me and it pretty much sums up the whole Anglo women Vs any other women debate. A TV host goes to Poland and asks local women what they think of Irish men who are there for a football tournament, the snarky bitch acts shocked when the women give positive reviews. Near the end she interviews some Irish pigs who also complain that the "talent is lacking" for Irish men.




I don't think that US or Canadian women would be so harsh on their own men, maybe its an Irish thing to be such cunts?

Honest question for Irish and Polish people:

Is it acceptable in your country to speak to strangers while wearing sunglasses?

Given the haughty disdain of women for men in the Anglosphere that this video magisterially captures, the snarky interviewer's wearing sunglasses is the least objectionable facet of everything that is obnoxious about her attitude.

Undoubtedly true, and obvious to everyone here. My question still remains. I'm simply interested.

Post: #21

(12-16-2015 08:06 PM)LE50 Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:50 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:46 PM)LE50 Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:29 PM)scotian Wrote:  I'm not sure if this video has been posted on here before but Atlantic showed it to me and it pretty much sums up the whole Anglo women Vs any other women debate. A TV host goes to Poland and asks local women what they think of Irish men who are there for a football tournament, the snarky bitch acts shocked when the women give positive reviews. Near the end she interviews some Irish pigs who also complain that the "talent is lacking" for Irish men.




I don't think that US or Canadian women would be so harsh on their own men, maybe its an Irish thing to be such cunts?

Honest question for Irish and Polish people:

Is it acceptable in your country to speak to strangers while wearing sunglasses?

Given the haughty disdain of women for men in the Anglosphere that this video magisterially captures, the snarky interviewer's wearing sunglasses is the least objectionable facet of everything that is obnoxious about her attitude.

Undoubtedly true, and obvious to everyone here. My question still remains. I'm simply interested.

As to your question, in the UK I would say that it's difficult to answer, since many people don't even make much eye contact with strangers anyway on the street if they come into contact with them, especially so the women of fertile age. For me, personally, and no doubt for quite a few others I would say that it is unacceptable, if by that word you mean rude, since by concealing your eyes you are deliberately hiding your personality to some extent, given how the eyes are the window to the soul.

Post: #22

(12-17-2015 05:01 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 08:06 PM)LE50 Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:50 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:46 PM)LE50 Wrote:  

(12-16-2015 05:29 PM)scotian Wrote:  I'm not sure if this video has been posted on here before but Atlantic showed it to me and it pretty much sums up the whole Anglo women Vs any other women debate. A TV host goes to Poland and asks local women what they think of Irish men who are there for a football tournament, the snarky bitch acts shocked when the women give positive reviews. Near the end she interviews some Irish pigs who also complain that the "talent is lacking" for Irish men.




I don't think that US or Canadian women would be so harsh on their own men, maybe its an Irish thing to be such cunts?

Honest question for Irish and Polish people:

Is it acceptable in your country to speak to strangers while wearing sunglasses?

Given the haughty disdain of women for men in the Anglosphere that this video magisterially captures, the snarky interviewer's wearing sunglasses is the least objectionable facet of everything that is obnoxious about her attitude.

Undoubtedly true, and obvious to everyone here. My question still remains. I'm simply interested.

As to your question, in the UK I would say that it's difficult to answer, since many people don't even make much eye contact with strangers anyway on the street if they come into contact with them, especially so the women of fertile age. For me, personally, and no doubt for quite a few others I would say that it is unacceptable, if by that word you mean rude, since by concealing your eyes you are deliberately hiding your personality to some extent, given how the eyes are the window to the soul.

In Germany for example it's unacceptable. Like shaking hands with gloves on, or pointing to people with a "naked" finger.

But then again, we have so many of these "rules" that I thought maybe in different countries the sunglasses thing isn't a big deal.

In the end it's not that important. Of course you are right that it's the least discussion worthy behavior she's exhibiting.

On topic:

Funny how after the 10th woman praising Irish men she considers being in an "alternate universe" more likely than her being the problem.

I might forgive her if these interviews made her reevaluate her own views in some way, saying: "Well, seeing how our men could clearly move abroad and live like rockstars, maybe us gals at home have to step up our game."

But no, it's probably because she's in an alternate universe right now. End of thought.

Post: #23

(08-14-2015 05:21 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  irstly, non-Western women, such as the dancers from Colombia that I observed walking around the town yesterday, did not avert their glances away from me when I entered into their immediate vicinity.

Ha, forget about averting their eyes - here in Spain the majority of the ladies have a PhD. in deploying a carefully practiced bitch face. Not all of them I should add - but around 80% are at minimum dismissive or passive aggressive. At my gym I've seen several who don the resting bitch face. They're dressed in yoga pants and tight shirts and one may wonder why they would choose this attire if they don't want attention. But the local guys know - I have not once seen one try to chat up a gal there. Probably partly because Spanish guys have no game but the girls certainly do their part.

Post: #24

(12-16-2015 05:29 PM)scotian Wrote:  I'm not sure if this video has been posted on here before but Atlantic showed it to me and it pretty much sums up the whole Anglo women Vs any other women debate. A TV host goes to Poland and asks local women what they think of Irish men who are there for a football tournament, the snarky bitch acts shocked when the women give positive reviews. Near the end she interviews some Irish pigs who also complain that the "talent is lacking" for Irish men.




I don't think that US or Canadian women would be so harsh on their own men, maybe its an Irish thing to be such cunts?

The main reason why shit like this flies in the 'West' is because men continue to supplicate. I bet after the clip none of the other male reporters dared to point out the truth, which is that Irish women may just be all cunts. For he would lose his job that same day.

Very educational for Irish men though - given the choice, do you spend several hundred pound on some overweight self entitled bitch and probably strike out and/or be friend zoned? OR do you spend the same on a plane ticket to Poland and be surrounded by warm feminine (naturally blonde) women who smile at you? Fuck, tough choice, innit? Even if you don't plant your flag it's worth the money just for the experience which will strengthen your ego and lift your soul.

In the end free market forces will prevail. Just like women the lads are more connected and they are wising up quickly. Men have a looooot more time on their hand, long after the bell tolls for the girls.

Post: #25

wnb any of those Irish chicks - fat wildebeasts pretending to be lads. From experience there is a high probability that even the presenter chick, is a dirty smelly opinionated type with no natural feminine grace - who when naked looks like a old plastic shopping bag stuffed with cottage cheese.

Contrast with the fun happy polish women, even the least attractive one has a great smile and her personality shines through.