Post: #1

I have argued pretty hard and sometimes gotten close to nasty arguing for freedom, the bill of rights, no income tax, etc..with some of the more liberal members here.

But the fact is, those members have not been leading this country for the past 30 years. They are good guys who may be misguided on politics, but nevertheless, many of those guys are men you would want standing beside you in a war.

But would you really want to stand by Karl Rove? Chris Wallace? Bret Baier, or most of the "conservative" pundits on fox? Fuck NO. How about David Brooks, or Jeb Bush? HA!

My point is twofold. I've heard some rumblings from the Establishment crowd that Trump is a minion of the Clintons. Considering Trump was wanting to run for President in the 80's and warning about being a debtors nation then...I doubt that. But even if he is, the Republican Party needs to be completely wrecked.

When Tuthmosis or others look for answers outside the Republican Party, going so far as giving Bernie Sanders a look, (I'm just giving an example of a center left voice on the forum, can you blame them?

The Republican Party has done everything in its power to hurt the American worker/middle class/lower class the past thirty years, (the Democrats have helped, but its to be expected from them) by never lowering income taxes significantly, never passing laws that would create a incentive structure that wouldn't punish getting paid more, and even taking the lead on screwing over men in Family Law.

Trump is doing a service to this country if the only thing he does his drive a stake through the credibility of these "conservative" leaders.

Trump should come out with a platform for the little guy.



-No taxes on anyone making less than 100,000 a year. You get to keep your welfare benefits if you get a raise until the money you make outstrips your benefits by over 15k.

-Institute a a significant wealth tax on individuals with over 100 million dollars. Like 20% of total wealth in a one time tax. Tax Charitable Foundations with over 500 million in assets 20% of total savings. This way the Rockefellers and Gate's will be hit too. These people have made a killing off of being Federal Reserve Insiders and banking insiders.

-Institute a tax on our largest ten banks. 20% of total wealth of employees and companies.

-Significantly reduce regulations entrepreneurs face.

-Clean up the income tax code and severely reduce the income tax



The wealth of America has been stolen by insiders, bankers, and politicians. If Trump is serious about winning, a platform like this would absolutely demolish any other contender.


Trump is rich, but by coming out and saying he will make the billionaire thieves pay for the debt, him included, stop taxing the working poor, and clean up our incentives by not punishing those who want to earn more without taking away their benefits, Trump would win in a landslide.

Post: #2

I'm not sure I agree with the measures you are proposing, but I do agree that the current Republican party is a scourge, combining the worst of economic policies, war hawks and feminism, and providing a convenient boogeyman for the Democrats on top of all that.

If Trump doesn't win the nomination, I hope they just disappear.

Post: #3

You say traitorous, i say according to design.

Post: #4

Trump is a joke. I can't wait for this corner of the internet to stop talking about him. I know I'm not alone here.

Post: #5

The two-party system has been [ab]used more and more as a way to divide and distract the sheeple of America while the corporations in power usurp freedom.

Post: #6

(08-08-2015 06:57 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  Trump should come out with a platform for the little guy.


Trump is rich, but by coming out and saying he will make the billionaire thieves pay for the debt, him included, stop taxing the working poor, and clean up our incentives by not punishing those who want to earn more without taking away their benefits, Trump would win in a landslide.

That's what you want, not what Trump wants.

Post: #7

What we really need to do is look at the big global picture - for 50 years the Bain Capital-Mitt Romneys of the world have spearheaded buying up nice steady cash cow manufacturing businesses like local New England companies; Beebe Rubber, Timberland Boots, Ferrofluidics, International Paper Box Machinery Corporation, most of our computer and networks electronics manufacturers and their sub contractor suppliers including Metal Cabinet fabricators etc have all been moved to Guangzhou ("OneJoe") province Chinese Red Army internal Chinese work visas controlled Industrial Parks among other communist workers paradise provinces where the workers are literally worked to death 7 days a week 17 hours a day.

India is attacking our call centers and tech support industries and now software development industries with living conditions in India that would not come near the standards of our national building and electrical codes. People literally live on shacks built upon refuse dumps ... in most Chinese industrial cities No one can breathe the air

The G8 including the USA can not compete by allowing the rest of the worlds 7 Billion people flood their products or services into the modern western markets by ignoring health, safety, environmental and living standards, (Air, Water, Food and Medicines quality and waste treatment, etc.)...

Trump is in fact correct - when you get past all of the politically incorrect attacks on him his substance is one hundred percent dead on. China, Mexico, India, Brazil, Canada all out negotiate us on nearly every aspect of Trade and lop sided regulations that Apply to the USA and EU industries but not to the emerging 3rd world manufacturing and services companies who are literally dumping raw sewage and industrial waste directly into their rivers and ocean estuaries.

It has been reported that anyone competing in the Rio Olympics water events will be competing in unhealthy levels of sewage related bacteria.

Point is the trade and environmental treaties the Obamunists push under dark of night with no scrutiny because the Obamunists know best (TPP Trans Pacific Partnership) that basically allows China to set up USA factories to take advantage of cheap USA energy without hiring USA workers - WTF - Who could possibly think that is a good idea if they were not being paid off by our trade adversaries - lets just flood the USA with Chinese Communist Slave laborers and third world H1B visa workers along with a tidal wave of illegal immigrants and collapse every good paying job in the USA and force all Americans to live on less than $500 a month just like China and India and Africa and Brazil... this is what the Globalist Statists are working towards and news flash by buying off the Clintons (CGI Foundation Donations) and the Obamunists (Future Obama1 Foundation Donations) the Globalist Statists and their SJW Anti-American axis are WINNING.

Post: #8

(08-08-2015 06:57 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  -Institute a a significant wealth tax on individuals with over 100 million dollars. Like 20% of total wealth in a one time tax. Tax Charitable Foundations with over 500 million in assets 20% of total savings. This way the Rockefellers and Gate's will be hit too. These people have made a killing off of being Federal Reserve Insiders and banking insiders.

-Institute a tax on our largest ten banks. 20% of total wealth of employees and companies.

Big money controls everything in politics. If any politician even floated these two ideas, I wouldn't be surprised if a hitman came knocking on their door. Or at the very least, one of their dick pics would get leaked.

Post: #9

(08-08-2015 03:45 PM)Grange Wrote:  Trump is a joke. I can't wait for this corner of the internet to stop talking about him. I know I'm not alone here.

By the time Obama is done the country will be nearly $20 trillion in debt. We will not be far from facing austerity. Interest rates are going up come hell or high water and the Chinese stock market is crashing. An economic down turn is very likely, when in reality the economy never recovered from 2007. We have Obamacare, which is proving to be a massive failure, and it isn't even fully implemented or funded yet.

"So then vote a main stream Republican"

In the last 5 years the Republicans have owned the House and the last year they have owned the Senate. They hold the purse strings. These main stream Republicans have done nothing to stop Obama from getting his way. They could have easily defunded many of the programs Obama has pushed that are very unpopular with the American people. They appear to be more like controlled opposition than a real alternative to the socialist Democrats.

Many of us realize Trump is probably our last hope of ever getting the American dream back. He isn't perfect, I don't even know if I can trust him to do what he says, but I know everyone else running is saying the same thing on both sides... "more of the same". And there isn't much more time to have "more of the same" when looking at our economic situation.

Many I know are using their normal investment savings every month and they are buying guns/ammunition. They know the stock market will at least have a nice correction soon, if not a massive sell off. They know that interest rates on savings/cash gets you nothing. So they are stocking up on things that have intrinsic value and they know how dire the situation is. My parents, who are in their mid 60's, never remember people stocking up on guns and ammunition due to fear of where this country is heading. Things are very bad out there.

Post: #10

(08-08-2015 06:57 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  I have argued pretty hard and sometimes gotten close to nasty arguing for freedom, the bill of rights, no income tax, etc..with some of the more liberal members here.

But the fact is, those members have not been leading this country for the past 30 years. They are good guys who may be misguided on politics, but nevertheless, many of those guys are men you would want standing beside you in a war.

But would you really want to stand by Karl Rove? Chris Wallace? Bret Baier, or most of the "conservative" pundits on fox? Fuck NO. How about David Brooks, or Jeb Bush? HA!

My point is twofold. I've heard some rumblings from the Establishment crowd that Trump is a minion of the Clintons. Considering Trump was wanting to run for President in the 80's and warning about being a debtors nation then...I doubt that. But even if he is, the Republican Party needs to be completely wrecked.

When Tuthmosis or others look for answers outside the Republican Party, going so far as giving Bernie Sanders a look, (I'm just giving an example of a center left voice on the forum, can you blame them?

The Republican Party has done everything in its power to hurt the American worker/middle class/lower class the past thirty years, (the Democrats have helped, but its to be expected from them) by never lowering income taxes significantly, never passing laws that would create a incentive structure that wouldn't punish getting paid more, and even taking the lead on screwing over men in Family Law.

Trump is doing a service to this country if the only thing he does his drive a stake through the credibility of these "conservative" leaders.

Trump should come out with a platform for the little guy.



-No taxes on anyone making less than 100,000 a year. You get to keep your welfare benefits if you get a raise until the money you make outstrips your benefits by over 15k.

-Institute a a significant wealth tax on individuals with over 100 million dollars. Like 20% of total wealth in a one time tax. Tax Charitable Foundations with over 500 million in assets 20% of total savings. This way the Rockefellers and Gate's will be hit too. These people have made a killing off of being Federal Reserve Insiders and banking insiders.

-Institute a tax on our largest ten banks. 20% of total wealth of employees and companies.

-Significantly reduce regulations entrepreneurs face.

-Clean up the income tax code and severely reduce the income tax



The wealth of America has been stolen by insiders, bankers, and politicians. If Trump is serious about winning, a platform like this would absolutely demolish any other contender.


Trump is rich, but by coming out and saying he will make the billionaire thieves pay for the debt, him included, stop taxing the working poor, and clean up our incentives by not punishing those who want to earn more without taking away their benefits, Trump would win in a landslide.

We already have this. You are never going to get the rich to pay taxes. All it ends up doing is harming the rest of us with a gargantuan government.

Post: #11

(08-08-2015 06:57 AM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  I have argued pretty hard and sometimes gotten close to nasty arguing for freedom, the bill of rights, no income tax, etc..with some of the more liberal members here.

But the fact is, those members have not been leading this country for the past 30 years. They are good guys who may be misguided on politics, but nevertheless, many of those guys are men you would want standing beside you in a war.

But would you really want to stand by Karl Rove? Chris Wallace? Bret Baier, or most of the "conservative" pundits on fox? Fuck NO. How about David Brooks, or Jeb Bush? HA!

My point is twofold. I've heard some rumblings from the Establishment crowd that Trump is a minion of the Clintons. Considering Trump was wanting to run for President in the 80's and warning about being a debtors nation then...I doubt that. But even if he is, the Republican Party needs to be completely wrecked.

When Tuthmosis or others look for answers outside the Republican Party, going so far as giving Bernie Sanders a look, (I'm just giving an example of a center left voice on the forum, can you blame them?

The Republican Party has done everything in its power to hurt the American worker/middle class/lower class the past thirty years, (the Democrats have helped, but its to be expected from them) by never lowering income taxes significantly, never passing laws that would create a incentive structure that wouldn't punish getting paid more, and even taking the lead on screwing over men in Family Law.

Trump is doing a service to this country if the only thing he does his drive a stake through the credibility of these "conservative" leaders.

Trump should come out with a platform for the little guy.



-No taxes on anyone making less than 100,000 a year. You get to keep your welfare benefits if you get a raise until the money you make outstrips your benefits by over 15k.

-Institute a a significant wealth tax on individuals with over 100 million dollars. Like 20% of total wealth in a one time tax. Tax Charitable Foundations with over 500 million in assets 20% of total savings. This way the Rockefellers and Gate's will be hit too. These people have made a killing off of being Federal Reserve Insiders and banking insiders.

-Institute a tax on our largest ten banks. 20% of total wealth of employees and companies.

-Significantly reduce regulations entrepreneurs face.

-Clean up the income tax code and severely reduce the income tax



The wealth of America has been stolen by insiders, bankers, and politicians. If Trump is serious about winning, a platform like this would absolutely demolish any other contender.


Trump is rich, but by coming out and saying he will make the billionaire thieves pay for the debt, him included, stop taxing the working poor, and clean up our incentives by not punishing those who want to earn more without taking away their benefits, Trump would win in a landslide.

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Post: #12

The summary of this Paul Joseph Watson video from Bilderberg 2015 is an eye opener.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFFDSRVC9-Y