(07-28-2015 04:12 AM)iamdegaussed Wrote: Tyler is a rapper with lyrics that have a lot of violence against women. Never committed a crime in his life as far as I know, but he's been banned by Australia because they are inundated with the feminist kool-aid down there.
I don't like what Julien did but he didn't have it coming. And their victory on him and then in other places like banning Tyler are only going to embolden these fucking whelps even more.
Hopefully Roosh gets in and gets out without a hassle.
Regardless what Tyler or Julien has said, what we're seeing here is that the left is now seeking to ban people because of ideas and words.
Back in the 1980s, when religious fanatics sought to keep the Beastie Boys (or various metal bands) from performing in their towns, the media was up in arms about this. I don't see the current turn of events as all that different, except that in this case it's the left complaining so the media is not challenging their viewpoints.
What newspapers and Internet writers should be saying about all this is the following: Be careful about setting a precedent when it comes to banning people for their ideas. Because one day, it might be you who is banned because your idea suddenly falls out of fashion or becomes politically incorrect.
(07-29-2015 08:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: What newspapers and Internet writers should be saying about all this is the following: Be careful about setting a precedent when it comes to banning people for their ideas. Because one day, it might be you who is banned because your idea suddenly falls out of fashion or becomes politically incorrect.
I don't see how people don't see this.
You expect people to be able to think about what they are doing and actually look to the future.
SJWs get so caught up with their witch hunts, they can't see anything else.
Somehow their bloodlust needs to be used against them somehow, a trap that explodes all over them. The problem is after the RS UVA Rape Hoax story, they have proven they just ignore anything that doesn't support their goals. Everything gets worked around even when they are wrong.
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(07-29-2015 08:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: What newspapers and Internet writers should be saying about all this is the following: Be careful about setting a precedent when it comes to banning people for their ideas. Because one day, it might be you who is banned because your idea suddenly falls out of fashion or becomes politically incorrect.
I don't see how people don't see this.
You expect people to be able to think about what they are doing and actually look to the future.
SJWs get so caught up with their witch hunts, they can't see anything else.
Somehow their bloodlust needs to be used against them somehow, a trap that explodes all over them. The problem is after the RS UVA Rape Hoax story, they have proven they just ignore anything that doesn't support their goals. Everything gets worked around even when they are wrong.
Hey, thanks for using something I wrote as your signature quote. I'd share a photo of the 200-pound woman I was specifically talking about, but I wouldn't want you to run out the door screaming in terror.
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(07-29-2015 08:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: What newspapers and Internet writers should be saying about all this is the following: Be careful about setting a precedent when it comes to banning people for their ideas. Because one day, it might be you who is banned because your idea suddenly falls out of fashion or becomes politically incorrect.
I don't see how people don't see this.
You expect empathy.
Fixed for you.
I think this is the flip side of what The Last Psychiatrist rails against when he reveals our society's narcissism. A narcissistic society is one where empathy cannot exist; you can't be narcissistic and empathetic at the same time. The concept of, "I may one day be in their shoes, so even though I'm not them, I should seriously consider their viewpoint and treat them as I would want to be treated" i.e. empathy, doesn't exist nowadays.
In my opinion it is the defining characteristic that defines millenial girls, total lack of empathy.
The girls in my life who have been empathetic have been cougargs and foreign girls, and not all foreign girls, but most.
The over the top anti-woman stuff here, and yes sometimes it goes a little too far, (almost never, but most would agree with me) is because so many American women are over the top caricatures of horrible people.
(07-29-2015 08:52 PM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote: What newspapers and Internet writers should be saying about all this is the following: Be careful about setting a precedent when it comes to banning people for their ideas. Because one day, it might be you who is banned because your idea suddenly falls out of fashion or becomes politically incorrect.
I don't see how people don't see this.
You expect empathy.
Fixed for you.
I think this is the flip side of what The Last Psychiatrist rails against when he reveals our society's narcissism. A narcissistic society is one where empathy cannot exist; you can't be narcissistic and empathetic at the same time. The concept of, "I may one day be in their shoes, so even though I'm not them, I should seriously consider their viewpoint and treat them as I would want to be treated" i.e. empathy, doesn't exist nowadays.
It's interesting you'd observe this because I'm noticing other people are manking this observation too -- and outside the manosphere, at that.
Today, in an online music group called the Steve Hoffman Forum, someone was wondering why Prince doesn't have a bigger audience today. Someone else replied that it's because his songs are about sex and spirituality and Millennials favor songs about self-love, not loving others: "you're a firework!" "you're a starship!" "shake it off because I'm great!"
This is pretty damn creepy if it's the truth. People knocked my Generation (X), but I'd rather be known as a slacker than a self-lover. Ew.
It still blows me away that the crazy girl in the radio interview said "and he's promoting these rigid gender binaries".. as if it is now strange and unacceptable to simply recognize there are distinctions to be made between men and women. The level of insanity with the Canadian feminists and transgender promoters is possibly the highest in the world.
I'd love to go but I have to give a lecture at that time.
Quote:I'd also like to take the time to warn any person planning on coming that there most likely will be horrid things said to all of us, and some might triggering. Please know your limits and take the time to wonder if you should come, it's ok to put yourself first. But if you want to come; if you have any anxiety, asthma, and any other things of the sort, feel free to message me so that i know, and if anything goes down, we can look out for you.
Quote:Thanks for organizing. On the other hand fuck 'Canadian values', fuck instrumentalizing colonial borders in any capacity (even though this dude is awful and I understand the sentiment behind the petition), and absolutely what needs to be done is to shut the event down, not stand quietly outside 'not yelling'...
and...
Quote:Plz don't yell at the sexist pig? Wtf
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Quote:This protest will be first and foremost a PEACEFUL PROTEST. Please do not come if you seek violence, confrontation, or if you want to yell, as much as I understand where the anger comes from, we absolutely need to remain calm, civil, and peaceful and have our message come accross clearly: hate speech and inciting violence and sexual assault against women is not ok, and doesn't uphold to Canadian values.
If this chick is there it won't be peaceful, but it will be entertaining.
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Women and children can be careless, but not men - Don Corleone
I propose we pool a small bit of cash together and make it a prize for the first RVF player who takes one of these protest atendees back to his room from the bar later on in the night. Bound to happen.
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Sara Parker-Toulson: "It's important to note very clearly that RooshV and his minions desperately want there to be a violent conflict at this protest. That is precisely why he needs to be stopped at the border. They are literally rubbing their hands together. Roosh has directly contacted me only once on Twitter, and it was to communicate exactly how much pleasure he plans on extracting from a heated or violent conflict.
The hate speech laws are designed to REDUCE or ELIMINATE this kind of violent conflict, because they acknowledge that hate does not require 'debate' or even a public response. It is criminal. It has no legitimate place in the world. It is against the law, and that is a good thing.
When you are trying to achieve a specific political goal (especially one that might prevent sexual assault or organized misogyny), I think you must use the tools you have at your disposal to achieve it as quickly, easily and with as little violence and conflict as possible. The laws governing both the Canadian border and the pre-existing hate speech laws are those tools in this case. Using them does not negate our ability to be critical of them in any way. Using them is not an endorsement of colonialism or patriarchy. More, had I rejected them outright, we would not have as good a chance of preventing him from organizing and spreading his hateful and violent 'message' to (let's admit it) vulnerable, socially isolated men who will inevitably enact it on women, and the world more generally. Just like Eliot Rodger. Just like the Lafayette shooting.
Perhaps I am being defensive, but I did want to respond."
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(08-01-2015 04:58 AM)RedPillUK Wrote: Using them does not negate our ability to be critical of them in any way. Using them is not an endorsement of colonialism or patriarchy.
ROFLMAO. This is a piss-poor attempt at justifying why she has to rely on big strong bad MEN at the borders and in the court system to try and ban a man from coming into the same country as her. Having drawn attention to it, though, only writes large the hypocrisy at hand: wants to destroy the patriarchy, has to use the tools the patriarchy creates and uses for her benefit in order to do anything meaningful.
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(08-01-2015 04:58 AM)RedPillUK Wrote: More, had I rejected them outright, we would not have as good a chance of preventing him from organizing and spreading his hateful and violent 'message' to (let's admit it) vulnerable, socially isolated men who will inevitably enact it on women, and the world more generally. Just like Eliot Rodger. Just like the Lafayette shooting.
(07-19-2015 09:41 AM)Wutang Wrote: One of the things I pointed out to several of the people I talked to was that I'm sure the Manboobz of the world (who actually put up a blog post mentioning this event) thought we'd be a bunch of neckbeards sporting fedoras but looking around the room and the hotel bar I saw nothing of the sort. Hilarious considering their constant tiresome sermons on stereotyping people.
Oh you silly hyphenated brat. I thought stereotyping was baaaaaaddddd?
(08-01-2015 03:27 AM)Beyond Borders Wrote: I propose we pool a small bit of cash together and make it a prize for the first RVF player who takes one of these protest atendees back to his room from the bar later on in the night. Bound to happen.
That should cover the std testing. The ones on FB looked sort of skankish.
Fate whispers to the warrior, "You cannot withstand the storm." And the warrior whispers back, "I am the storm."
Women and children can be careless, but not men - Don Corleone
(08-01-2015 04:58 AM)RedPillUK Wrote: Using them does not negate our ability to be critical of them in any way. Using them is not an endorsement of colonialism or patriarchy.
ROFLMAO. This is a piss-poor attempt at justifying why she has to rely on big strong bad MEN at the borders and in the court system to try and ban a man from coming into the same country as her. Having drawn attention to it, though, only writes large the hypocrisy at hand: wants to destroy the patriarchy, has to use the tools the patriarchy creates and uses for her benefit in order to do anything meaningful.
It's worse than that. She's using the violence of the state to forbid people from expressing their thoughts. It'd be one thing if Roosh had committed violence against anyone, (because violence is an action) - but it's another thing to use the violent power of the state to forbid people from expressing their thoughts.
It'd be amusing (but ultimately not worth it) to ask her whether words can be violent, or whether she thinks of herself as a peaceful person, just to goad her into expressing her irrational thoughts.
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(08-01-2015 04:58 AM)RedPillUK Wrote: Using them does not negate our ability to be critical of them in any way. Using them is not an endorsement of colonialism or patriarchy.
ROFLMAO. This is a piss-poor attempt at justifying why she has to rely on big strong bad MEN at the borders and in the court system to try and ban a man from coming into the same country as her. Having drawn attention to it, though, only writes large the hypocrisy at hand: wants to destroy the patriarchy, has to use the tools the patriarchy creates and uses for her benefit in order to do anything meaningful.
It's worse than that. She's using the violence of the state to forbid people from expressing their thoughts. It'd be one thing if Roosh had committed violence against anyone, (because violence is an action) - but it's another thing to use the violent power of the state to forbid people from expressing their thoughts.
It'd be amusing (but ultimately not worth it) to ask her whether words can be violent, or whether she thinks of herself as a peaceful person, just to goad her into expressing her irrational thoughts.
Spot on with that assessment. These cretins are so dastardly(I sound like a corny movie villain here, but I do mean it) that they would brag about contemplating a well placed bomb threat to disrupt Roosh's speech.
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