Post: #26

(07-13-2015 01:38 AM)scotian Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 01:23 AM)Samseau Wrote:  I'd rather live in a country where gays are victimized instead of straights. The idea that you can have a 'tolerant' society where gays and straights live in harmony is almost certainly a fantasy that will be shattered within our lifetimes.

So when can we expect your data sheets from Russia, Jamaica, the Middle East or Africa?

Hm, what would such data sheets contain... openers for when you see gays during the day?

"Excuse me... do you know where the nearest pet shop is, faggot?"

Post: #27

Friend is talking about a nauseating Polish poster on reddit who complains that the youth in Poland are too right wing.

Relevant portion to the thread: There's shitton of homophobic language in public discourse. Majority of people have the opinion "I won't hurt them or discriminate, but can't the gays pretend they're hetero? Also don't ask me to stop throwing insults".

Post: #28

Long story short, families are good for a stable society. Nothing produces well balanced, productive and contributing members of society like a two parents family with a mother and a father. Even stupid parents can produce functional kids if they follow the correct social code in raising them.

What's the opposite of a stable, two parents family that reaps the benefits of a mother and a father? Fags.

People who stay single (and don't produce kids) don't create a problem. Gays who keep their ass-fuckery to themselves don't create a problem.

Gays who want to shove their ass-fuckery in the public face and raise a family absolutely create a problem.

Gayness isn't normal, it's a twisted fetish best kept in the closet. There's a reason why it's shameful.

People with weird fetishes shouldn't be raising kids.

Efforts to normalize sick fetishes should be responded to Russian style.

No one should be beat up for having a weird fetish. But publicizing it?

That should qualify as asking for trouble.

Post: #29

Would you rather live in this society





or this one



You know I've never really been on board with the emigration aspect of this forum/subculture but I'm starting to really reconsider.

Post: #30

Recreate this experiment in any multiculturally enriched area in western europe and you'll get the same or even worse results. Of course they won't do that because they'd be forced to put the blame on the wrong part of the population.

For example, if you look long enough you'll find reports about homosexual couples beaten up or publicly harassed in certain areas of Berlin. But it's just local news at best.

Post: #31

I am actually more shocked at how many guys were saying shit and talking tough to them but were alone and not trying to impress their mates.
You don't get that often.

Post: #32

(07-13-2015 04:39 AM)Suits Wrote:  Long story short, families are good for a stable society. Nothing produces well balanced, productive and contributing members of society like a two parents family with a mother and a father. Even stupid parents can produce functional kids if they follow the correct social code in raising them.

What's the opposite of a stable, two parents family that reaps the benefits of a mother and a father? Fags.

People who stay single (and don't produce kids) don't create a problem. Gays who keep their ass-fuckery to themselves don't create a problem.

Gays who want to shove their ass-fuckery in the public face and raise a family absolutely create a problem.

Gayness isn't normal, it's a twisted fetish best kept in the closet. There's a reason why it's shameful.

People with weird fetishes shouldn't be raising kids.

Efforts to normalize sick fetishes should be responded to Russian style.

No one should be beat up for having a weird fetish. But publicizing it?

That should qualify as asking for trouble.

Post: #33

(07-12-2015 10:46 PM)Il Bersagliere Wrote:  Yikes! Not a fan of gays, but those were very serious confrontations. I am just trying to imagine how ethnic minorities are treated. Fuck that.

I can definitely see how they use tactics like this to promote a national identity.

One girl I met and dated last year, and do when she's in town, is from the Circassian ethnic minority group in Russia. She told me that it's sometimes difficult to get ahead because there's social stigmas and disadvantages for non-Russians, but didn't mention anything like this.

It didn't stop her from getting ahead anyway. She never cried victim like these gay guys are doing, deliberately looking for trouble. Being gay is easily concealable and would confer no social disadvantages if you simply just kept your sexual behavior in private where it belongs. Instead these guys need to deconstruct and then radically recreate society centering around their minority preferences.

Post: #34

First of all the two fake gays were provoking a reaction by holding hands and I expect ( although hard to judge on my phone screen) making eye contact with masculine looking men.

And it has occurred to me that Russia is now a much freer country than the west if the majority hetero males can express their free speech / expression without fear of being called " homo phobe" or some such nonsense made up word.

I'm not going to condone violence but it is refreshing to see that there is still a country where disgust at public displays of perversion is allowed.

Post: #35

Some mentions earlier in the thread about recreating this in a "multicultural" area in the west - already been done (sort of) in NYC:

Post: #36

I heard it's the same in India too. It's not faggotry, just close male bondings. I can't speak about the guys in India, but in the south of France, it's very common for good male friends to greet each other with 2 kisses on the cheeks. Ditto for Argentina, Italy, Spain, Brasil.

(07-13-2015 12:44 AM)Troll King Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 10:48 PM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  To me that wasn't so bad, it might've taken them hours of walking to capture 2 minutes of harassment. They could walk without holding hands and no one would even notice. In the Middle East or Africa you'd get beat up for sure. I'd wager you'd also get the same responses in American ghettos.

Using this as anti Russian propaganda is indicative of how hollow the west has become, it's not enough to accept gays but now every country should celebrate them. What an empty goal to aspire to as a society.

I can't speak for the entire middle east or Africa, but when I lived in Egypt it was quite common to see guys walking down the street holding hands or with their arms locked. It wasn't thought of as gay in the same way it would be in much of the west. These cultures practice things like le bize where men will kiss each other on the cheeks as a greeting in the same way they do in some European countries.

Post: #37

(07-13-2015 09:08 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  I heard it's the same in India too. It's not faggotry, just close male bondings

Can confirm this - was about to post that myself, but you beat me to it

Post: #38

(07-13-2015 12:44 AM)Troll King Wrote:  I can't speak for the entire middle east or Africa, but when I lived in Egypt it was quite common to see guys walking down the street holding hands or with their arms locked. It wasn't thought of as gay in the same way it would be in much of the west. These cultures practice things like le bize where men will kiss each other on the cheeks as a greeting in the same way they do in some European countries.

I think this stuff is actually partly a result of homosexuality being accepted as depraved in these countries. In Saudi Arabia, given the social treatment (and government punishment) of homosexuality, no gay would ever make a show of it, and thus it is extremely unlikely that two men holding hands in public would be considered gay. In the West, it would be considered almost guaranteed they were.

To some extent this is reflected in normal male relations today in the West. When two men who don't know each other meet and talk to each other in a bar, often they'll make a point of mentioning girls early in the conversation, just to head off the risk they're talking to a fag or being perceived as one themselves. This wouldn't be necessary in Saudi - it would just be assumed that every man you talk to is straight, or if he's gay he'll hide it like his life depends on it.

In Australia also there is a tradition when guys are getting changed out of swimming clothes, that they wrap a towel around their waist so they can change to underwear without revealing their gear. It is considered dodgy for another man to be able to see your gear. In Japan, by comparison, there are communal baths where there is zero hesitation or discomfort being naked around other men. Reason being, there is no perceived threat that any of it could be considered sexual (a dick is just a body part like an arm or a head). The line is crisp - only seeing a naked woman, or being naked in front of a woman, can be sexual. Seeing a naked man, or being naked in front of a man, is purely neutral.

I think this behaviour is Western men feeling the innate need to protect themselves from the faggotry which permeats their societies and is shoved in their face, compared to non-Western men who can comfortably rely on the knowledge that faggotry is ostracized and who barely hear about it.

Unfortunately the day may one day come in the West where men have to put clothes on their pets to make it clear they aren't zoophiles.

Post: #39

(07-13-2015 09:08 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  I heard it's the same in India too. It's not faggotry, just close male bondings. I can't speak about the guys in India, but in the south of France, it's very common for good male friends to greet each other with 2 kisses on the cheeks. Ditto for Argentina, Italy, Spain, Brasil.

I still remember some years ago when i was dating this USA chick, and she presented me his brother, and i greeted him like we usually do, with the "cheek to cheek" (not even a kiss). The guy looked like i abused him.

Post: #40

Yeh man, these are just gestures of affection and endearment towards male family members and close friends... there is nothing homo about it. Me and my friends will hug, pat each other on the head when consoling each other, hold the hand when saying something important. I do find it quite strange that some western white friends (I'm British Indian by the way) have told me they find the fact that we hug each other when we greet to be strange. They also find it strange that when Indian men get together everybody will do the rounds to shake everybody's hand, even the strangers in the room. Strange but true.

(07-13-2015 09:08 AM)Vacancier Permanent Wrote:  I heard it's the same in India too. It's not faggotry, just close male bondings. I can't speak about the guys in India, but in the south of France, it's very common for good male friends to greet each other with 2 kisses on the cheeks. Ditto for Argentina, Italy, Spain, Brasil.

(07-13-2015 12:44 AM)Troll King Wrote:  

(07-12-2015 10:48 PM)zombiejimmorrison Wrote:  To me that wasn't so bad, it might've taken them hours of walking to capture 2 minutes of harassment. They could walk without holding hands and no one would even notice. In the Middle East or Africa you'd get beat up for sure. I'd wager you'd also get the same responses in American ghettos.

Using this as anti Russian propaganda is indicative of how hollow the west has become, it's not enough to accept gays but now every country should celebrate them. What an empty goal to aspire to as a society.

I can't speak for the entire middle east or Africa, but when I lived in Egypt it was quite common to see guys walking down the street holding hands or with their arms locked. It wasn't thought of as gay in the same way it would be in much of the west. These cultures practice things like le bize where men will kiss each other on the cheeks as a greeting in the same way they do in some European countries.

Post: #41

Russian parliament making moves to kick out American NGO's:

http://russia-insider.com/en/bunch-major...sia/ri8608

Post: #42

(07-13-2015 02:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Russian parliament making moves to kick out American NGO's:

http://russia-insider.com/en/bunch-major...sia/ri8608

Good get them out. They just spread discord and shitty western values at this point all in the name of geopolitics.

Post: #43

(07-13-2015 02:17 PM)Roosh Wrote:  Russian parliament making moves to kick out American NGO's:

http://russia-insider.com/en/bunch-major...sia/ri8608

I wish we could kick those orgs out of America too.

Post: #44

(07-13-2015 11:08 AM)Phoenix Wrote:  [quote='Troll King' pid='1064042' dateline='1436766244']
I think this behaviour is Western men feeling the innate need to protect themselves from the faggotry which permeats their societies and is shoved in their face, compared to non-Western men who can comfortably rely on the knowledge that faggotry is ostracized and who barely hear about it.

Unfortunately the day may one day come in the West where men have to put clothes on their pets to make it clear they aren't zoophiles.

Great point.

Worth noting also that Russian men go to bath houses where naked strangers whip each other with birch branches. It's supposed to be a kind of massage. They can do this without any homosexual suspicions. Can you imagine that in any Anglo country? I'm used to hot springs and saunas but that was a new one for me.

Post: #45

(07-13-2015 09:02 AM)poledaddy Wrote:  Some mentions earlier in the thread about recreating this in a "multicultural" area in the west - already been done (sort of) in NYC:

I wonder how that little experiment would go down in Malmo, Sweden where 50% are already Muslim?

And NYC does not seem much better than Russia - there were some confrontations which could have gone pretty bad for the guy.

Video in Russia proves nothing - they even walked around some rougher areas and parks with bums in Moscow. They should attempt that in the US in tougher neighborhoods and see how it goes for them.

But of course it would not fit into their narrative as they want to push the gay agenda to Russia and don't wish to blame Muslims, immigrants or blacks as those groups are less PC on that.

Post: #46

(07-13-2015 02:57 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  Friend is talking about a nauseating Polish poster on reddit who complains that the youth in Poland are too right wing.

Relevant portion to the thread: There's shitton of homophobic language in public discourse. Majority of people have the opinion "I won't hurt them or discriminate, but can't the gays pretend they're hetero? Also don't ask me to stop throwing insults".

isn't Poland where that rainbow art piece that was built in the city square burnt down? Poland is a glorious place

Post: #47

(07-14-2015 11:26 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 02:57 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  Friend is talking about a nauseating Polish poster on reddit who complains that the youth in Poland are too right wing.

Relevant portion to the thread: There's shitton of homophobic language in public discourse. Majority of people have the opinion "I won't hurt them or discriminate, but can't the gays pretend they're hetero? Also don't ask me to stop throwing insults".

isn't Poland where that rainbow art piece that was built in the city square burnt down? Poland is a glorious place

They burn down that rainbow piece each year. It's almost a tradition now. May they should consider doing one out of metal. That kind of gay promotion would be probably cheaper.

Post: #48

(07-14-2015 11:55 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  

(07-14-2015 11:26 AM)TonySandos Wrote:  

(07-13-2015 02:57 AM)Eskhander Wrote:  Friend is talking about a nauseating Polish poster on reddit who complains that the youth in Poland are too right wing.

Relevant portion to the thread: There's shitton of homophobic language in public discourse. Majority of people have the opinion "I won't hurt them or discriminate, but can't the gays pretend they're hetero? Also don't ask me to stop throwing insults".

isn't Poland where that rainbow art piece that was built in the city square burnt down? Poland is a glorious place

They burn down that rainbow piece each year. It's almost a tradition now. May they should consider doing one out of metal. That kind of gay promotion would be probably cheaper.

That is one of the most beautiful sights I've seen in a long time.

Post: #49

A number of years ago a renegade priest in Russia married a same-sex couple. It wasn't the defrocking by the Russian Orthodox Church which was shocking, it was the church itself. The local townsfolk destroyed the church because it had been "profaned". Then they built a new one.

Post: #50