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RE: Disagreements to widely accepted Manosphere beliefs
It is important that you do not confuse agreement with herd mentality.
Think about it like this; The founders of the USA were in agreement that they should be their own nation. Can you call this herd mentality?

Herd mentality is mindless following, without checking facts, because others are doing the same. Can you say that this forum blindly follows some unwritten law on how to behave?

Of course there may be some men who just want to be ''part of the club'', but can you say that the this forum lacks divergent thought? just look at the WYB thread! There was even a discussion over eating meat!

Now on one thing, I do agree with the putin thing, but it has its roots because the way putin seems to give the powers that be the finger.

One more thing; the reason why this forum agrees on many of those points is because of the facts that back up each argument. you have been here for two years, are you saying that you have never seen any discussion on single parents vs both parents?
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(07-10-2015 02:30 PM)la_mode Wrote:  Yes, it sounds cool to act like you're better than any woman over 30...but in all seriousness..who's gonna say no to a sexy woman in her 30's? You'd have to be LGBT yourself if you do.

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RE: Disagreements to widely accepted Manosphere beliefs
Man, I know the unpopular opinions thread was pretty great but all these attempted rehashes lately...

Also, I disagree with all of OP's points. Guess I'm part of that "herd mentality"

I'll add one point though: acceptance of pedophilia. After the whole gay marriage legalization, there have been a lot of forum members saying that incest, beastiality, and pedophilia are next. While I agree with the first two, pedophilia will never be okay in the eyes of the left.

Any feminist I know would shudder if I ever told them that I bang 17 year olds (I'm 21 and in Canada, perfectly legal Angel). There'd be no way to pass a law that legalizes homosexual or older woman-younger boy pedophilia while not allowing older man-younger girl pedophilia. Even the social justice mob doesn't have THAT much influence
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(07-10-2015 03:19 PM)Class-8 Wrote:  It is important that you do not confuse agreement with herd mentality.
Think about it like this; The founders of the USA were in agreement that they should be their own nation. Can you call this herd mentality?

Herd mentality is mindless following, without checking facts, because others are doing the same. Can you say that this forum blindly follows some unwritten law on how to behave?

Of course there may be some men who just want to be ''part of the club'', but can you say that the this forum lacks divergent thought? just look at the WYB thread! There was even a discussion over eating meat!

Now on one thing, I do agree with the putin thing, but it has its roots because the way putin seems to give the powers that be the finger.

One more thing; the reason why this forum agrees on many of those points is because of the facts that back up each argument. you have been here for two years, are you saying that you have never seen any discussion on single parents vs both parents?

Example of herd mentality: Someone could say in any thread regarding a carousel rider, "Send her to Dubai", that may equal a rep point plus about 15 likes at once.

Overall, there's simply too many variables that end up in complete agreeance, and any opposing viewpoint is simply used as reinforcement of the herd mentality (we're all so right, you're so wrong). I partially started this thread to illustrate that. If I get banned, I don't care, this place is basically right-wing SJW these days and that won't be changing anytime soon. Someone cue up Hillary doomsday thread #1,934.

The WYB thread is like saying "I prefer stuffed crust pizza to regular crust". Not really divergence. I'm also not championing or promoting divergence - I'm only saying the manosphere has become it's very own distinct hivemind.
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RE: Disagreements to widely accepted Manosphere beliefs
I agree wholeheartedly with the bit about tattoos and MILFs, I have a mild fetish for both. Members who've gamed with me down in Colombia can testify to that.

I'm not really sure what the core manosphere beliefs are though, I'm a travel and game focused sort of RVFer. These seem more like personal preferences.
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(07-10-2015 03:27 PM)la_mode Wrote:  I partially started this thread to illustrate that. If I get banned, I don't care, this place is basically right-wing SJW these days and that won't be changing anytime soon. Someone cue up Hillary doomsday thread #1,934.

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LOL right wing, most of us are on here to learn game and fuck (younger) women, make better money, and travel.

That's sure as hell what I'm here for. I don't buy into anything wholeheartedly.

The Everything Else thread is a different beast, I poke my head in here from time to time. The fact you think all the guys on here are Anti SJW SJW's and are right wing looneys is INSANE.

Maybe you should stick to the game/travel/deep thread if you can't stand the heat in this sub forum.

(07-10-2015 03:27 PM)la_mode Wrote:  I'm also not championing or promoting divergence - I'm only saying the manosphere has become it's very own distinct hivemind.

You're right our collective circle jerk is distinctly hiveminded.

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(07-10-2015 03:00 PM)kaotic Wrote:  I think having an alpha/proper father and a submissive and nurturing mother is a great thing for a child to have. He gets proper life training and the love he needs. My best friend has this exact combination and both him and his brother are badass men. Have you seen most young single mothers nowadays ? It's horrible and sad, the kids don't even have a chance.

I don't want to make this thread about me, but I will use myself as an example. I have a very high IQ and am old enough to have a lot of life experience. Many people will become disgusted if they saw me date a 20 year old chick with a below average IQ, calling my dating decision "a blatant pussy grab" or "a deluded attempt to re-live your lost youth".

I would counter-argue, "Have you considered that I'm trying to combine my genes of intelligence and masculine thought, with her genes for a happy personality and beautiful body? Have you considered that she has never been hit by her parents and has a naturally bubbly personality that my children will love? Sure, it'll be somewhat annoying for my children to see their mother's eyes glaze over in boredom whenever I discuss something philosophically important - but I'm also stupid enough to debate philosophical concepts with three year olds, and I'm glad she's smart enough to say, 'Dude, he's three!' So fuck off."

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I think it's pretty good people here really are coalescing around a broad set of beliefs. Having a group that is capable of action requires people be dedicated to that group and buy it's tenets. Herd mentality means you're down for the cause.

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(07-10-2015 03:18 PM)2Wycked Wrote:  It's only gay if you cross streams at the end

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I was afraid that I'd have to spend a few more minutes typing arguments against la mode's flailing, but I see that he's just up to a meltdown instead.

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What if La_Mode is L M McCoy's sister ?

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(07-10-2015 03:38 PM)Sonsowey Wrote:  I think it's pretty good people here really are coalescing around a broad set of beliefs. Having a group that is capable of action requires people be dedicated to that group and buy it's tenets. Herd mentality means you're down for the cause.

I do think it's interesting how different players in the "alt-right" (can't think of a better name for the anti-progressives) have naturally started to converge toward similar viewpoints, just in the last year or two. The major forums, blogs, and comments are all starting to have similar mindsets about things.

There is something starting here. I don't consider it a hivemind anymore than I would consider the enlightenment or industrial revolution a hivemind. It's the aggregate actions of independent actors put into the same environment and coming to similar conclusions.

It's convergent evolution.
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(07-10-2015 03:12 PM)KorbenDallas Wrote:  Nah, they're not both " great". Newsflash, 18-21 year olds are more pleasant, less manipulative, hotter, more loving, and make your dick harder.

I don't feel this way at all. I hate being around 18-21 year old girls.
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My gif didn't work. DAMN IT!
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15 GIF's already. More on the way shortly. If that's not hivemind, I'm not sure what is.

Dumb GIF's are quickly becoming manosphere equivalent of SWPL snarkyness, again, more ridiculous counterbalance.
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That's cool. Everyone's different. Just my opinion.
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Also, it obviously depends on the individual girl too.
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(07-10-2015 04:02 PM)la_mode Wrote:  15 GIF's already. More on the way shortly. If that's not hivemind, I'm not sure what is.

Dumb GIF's are quickly becoming manosphere equivalent of SWPL snarkyness, again, more ridiculous counterbalance.

You posted an attention-whoring thread on a Friday afternoon about your unique opinions. What did you expect?

For someone who stomps in and arrogantly refers to the membership as a hivemind for calling you out, GIFs are exactly what you deserve.
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(07-10-2015 04:02 PM)la_mode Wrote:  15 GIF's already. More on the way shortly. If that's not hivemind, I'm not sure what is.

Dumb GIF's are quickly becoming manosphere equivalent of SWPL snarkyness, again, more ridiculous counterbalance.

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(07-10-2015 04:02 PM)la_mode Wrote:  15 GIF's already. More on the way shortly. If that's not hivemind, I'm not sure what is.

Dumb GIF's are quickly becoming manosphere equivalent of SWPL snarkyness, again, more ridiculous counterbalance.

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Why do you guys feed the trolls?

Hyperbole and straw man arguments abound.
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Calling this a meltdown is laughable. All he's done is state some opinions, some of which are being misinterpreted or misread, probably because you're in such a rush to attack him.

He said the thing about women over 30. What he said was that just because a woman is over 30, if she is sexy then you should still bang her (obvious logic).

They're just opinions, get over yourselves. And stop overusing gifs.

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