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Disagreements to widely accepted Manosphere beliefs
I've wanted to do this for awhile, I realize this may get me banned, so here it goes.

- The collective fascination with Putin

Yes, he looks like a Bond villain. This makes him a bad ass by default, but the obsession with him gets to levels that rival the Matt Damon character in the Talented Mr Ripley.

- The huge deal about women having tattoos

Outside of hipster/alternative or trashy women, the majority of women still aren't all that tatted up. It's made out as if every single woman in the west is tatted up to her neck. It's simply not the case. A few well-placed tattoos can look sexy. I'm sure others agree, but are afraid to say it.

- Stable 2 parent households being essential

Some of the biggest clowns I've met come from stable, middle-class to upper-middle class households. In terms of social skills, some of the most impressive guys I've met were raised by single mothers or went back & forth between households, i.e. biological mother/stepfather household or biological father/stepmother household. Those kids learned to deal with adults better often than their peers at a young age. Obviously, they still grew up normally opposed to a "biological father in prison/biological mother on crack scenario". The binary extreme needs to be pointed out before it gets used as a counterargument. What people fail to realize....stable 2 parent households typically have significantly more rules and instill guilt at every possible moment, especially in boys.

- Conservative groups like Boy Scouts are what today's boys need

Yes, in an already anti-male climate, dressing like a complete nerd being told you should be a tattle-tale on everyone for anything is really gonna help you with chicks.

- The SJW counterbalance towards LGBT,feminism & fatties

This one is self-explanatory. Those groups are simply left (pardon the pun) best unaddressed at this point. Like a well-known frat at the Big 10 university I attended...their motto was "We don't party with fat chicks". One too many stupid topics about whatever Lena Dunham said in an interview gives these idiots too much credit. It's become inverse SJW. Let the SWPL hivemind enjoy the legalization of gay marriage, hopefully it has a good effect on America's heavily (in more ways than one lol) skewed gender ratio as more questioning men choose that persuasion.

- The bias towards women above 30

There's a certain sexiness that some women get into their 30s. To quote Robert Greene, an "air of confidence" in their sex appeal that attractive women in their 30s get. Another thing, most guys regardless of what they say will choose a cougar with a hard body over an average or even slightly overweight women in her 20s. In the US at least, attractiveness trumps fertility. Yes, it sounds cool to act like you're better than any woman over 30...but in all seriousness..who's gonna say no to a sexy woman in her 30's? You'd have to be LGBT yourself if you do.
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RE: Disagreements to widely accepted Manosphere beliefs
I disagree with everything you said.

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Personally, I've never seen an instance where a tattoo improves a woman's attractiveness.
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I don't care if you disagree about what you like in a woman.

By all means, please, go for the older gals. You can have all of them. Seriously.
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The herd mentality is starting to show.
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RE: Disagreements to widely accepted Manosphere beliefs
Starting a thread like this is in the worst case an attempt to manipulate forum views by drawing out the members more sympathetic to one of your viewpoints.

Or in the best case it is an attempt to lump together multiple diverse and widely held beliefs and to get members to pointlessly rehash debates that are addressed respectively in individual threads.

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RE: Disagreements to widely accepted Manosphere beliefs
You are wrong on every single count. Here's why:

- No one here is obsessed with Putin. He is simply a refreshing contrast to our parasitic and dishonest politicians.
- While I acknowledge it to be possible, I have never seen a woman improved by any tattoo, no matter how small or tasteful. And most tattoos nowadays are not small or tasteful.
- I can't believe this is a serious claim. I'd rather meet a clown than a psycho drug addict.
- It's true that there is too much attention being paid to random SJW lunatics and their latest screeds, but again no one is forcing us to read the threads about them.
- Gaining increased sexiness with age is presupposed on the ability to learn from experience (either your experience or others'), which modern women simply do not possess.

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(07-10-2015 02:43 PM)la_mode Wrote:  The herd mentality is starting to show.

Even if you were correct, this dismissive attitude is one of the least effective methods to bring over others to your viewpoint.
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(07-10-2015 02:46 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  You are wrong on every single count. Here's why:

- No one here is obsessed with Putin. He is simply a refreshing contrast to our parasitic and dishonest politicians.
- While I acknowledge it to be possible, I have never seen a woman improved by any tattoo, no matter how small or tasteful. And most tattoos nowadays are not small or tasteful.
- I can't believe this is a serious claim. I'd rather meet a clown than a psycho drug addict.
- It's true that there is too much attention being paid to random SJW lunatics and their latest screeds, but again no one is forcing us to read the threads about them.
- Gaining increased sexiness with age is presupposed on the ability to learn from experience (either your experience or others'), which modern women simply do not possess.

Putin could probably come out with his own version of the macarena and most the manosphere would be impressed with it.
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Also, having a father has been repeatedly correlated with not going to prison, going to college (lots of hot young women in college) earning more money, and having more kids. All things most normal humans value.

Also, a strong dad will let you live at home if you go broke, keep your mom Sane(er), and help you in a lot of other ways.

I don't think he should be banned. I think he probably just hasn't learned enough yet, and defenitly hasn't been with a 21 year old he really likes before.
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Expressing your dissident views here makes you such a special, brave snowflake. I can't even imagine how empowering this must feel for you. You go girl!
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You didn't even cite any sources or threads. Weak.
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Putin isn't a pussy or impotent like Obama, he might be unfair or influences his country a lot, but mostly the right reasons. I still don't think it's cool what he did in Ukraine, BUT he had the balls to do it. I don't idolize politicians like many do with Reagan, Obama, Clinton, whatever.

My main LTR has tattoos, I'm indifferent about them, she'd be a total 9 without them (along with a large set of tits).

I come from a biological mother who semi raised me (she went off the deep end real quick) along with a male relative (thankfully) who did most of the raising after Jr. High.

I think having an alpha/proper father and a submissive and nurturing mother is a great thing for a child to have. He gets proper life training and the love he needs. My best friend has this exact combination and both him and his brother are badass men. Have you seen most young single mothers nowadays ? It's horrible and sad, the kids don't even have a chance.

Men need conservative groups for camaraderie, ball busting, education, advice. etc. The boy scouts are a child version of the military - which in view is an awesome thing for male to have (minus the feminization and downgrade in standards) This grows into man time when they are older and the camaraderie still exists as well. The boy scouts isn't the greatest example to be honest.

On the SJW point, I do agree, we do spend alot of time in the Everything Else section picking every little thing we see - I'm guilty of it. It's better to educate oneself on an enemy of masculinity then to ignore and say fuck it. Calling out the hypocrisy of the SJW is important and can cause movements in a better direction - look at some of examples in gamergate. Looks at Protein World saying fuck you. Good things come of paying attention and staying current.

On 30+ women, yeah no guy is going to say fuck off to a smokeshow 9 that's in her 30's duh. BUT guys should be going after 18-29 range, especially 18-25. Why ? Younger, Tighter, Hotter.

That "air of confidence" you mention ? That's the smell of a 30+ year old women getting off the cock carousel staring at a wall and trying to lock down some idiot who has no idea of her past.

Even if that 30 year old 9 is amazing, guaranteed she won't be as fun and have more issues than a cute HB 8 19 year old. Young girls are just fun and easy going, they bring life. Older women are more manipulative, it's more what's in it for them, especially a woman on the prowl (pun intended) for a man to husband up before her clock stops ticking.

I'll always take the younger girls any day of the week, in fact my specialty is 18-young 20's.

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Older women have lubrication issues. The 18-early 20s crowd doesn't. My most recent gets so wet that her pussy juices drip down my balls. Never had an older broad do that.

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Younger women are great - news flash, any woman above 18 in the west has ridden the carousel. Hot women over 30 are great as well, if you guys are against that, that's your problem. I really wonder how many of you would turn down Berenice Marlohe, lol.
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(07-10-2015 03:07 PM)la_mode Wrote:  Younger women are great, older women are great - news flash, any woman above 18 in the west has ridden the carousel.

Negatory on both counts Ghost Rider.

Older women aren't that great, younger women are. At a higher percentage also.

An 18 year old usually has a lower notch count than a 30 year old woman.

Might as well catch them in the beginning than at the tail end.

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Nah, they're not both " great". Newsflash, 18-21 year olds are more pleasant, less manipulative, hotter, more loving, and make your dick harder.
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Some of you guys are getting ready to corroborate and possibly jerk off together.
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I'm out. Probably a chick.
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(07-10-2015 03:13 PM)la_mode Wrote:  Some of you guys are getting ready to corroborate and possibly jerk off together.

I missed the real McCoy. A little.

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(07-10-2015 03:07 PM)la_mode Wrote:  Younger women are great, older women are great - news flash, any woman above 18 in the west has ridden the carousel.

At this point you seem to be generalizing a lot more than the "herd" which you disagree with.

If we accept this premise as true, there is still a large difference in degree between the amount of time an 18 year old has spent on the carousel and one of your hard-bodied cougars. There is proven correlation between number of partners and relationship success. So, accepting your premise that all women have jumped on multiple cocks at 18, they will still be more highly valued in a relationship than a woman at 30+ who has 12 more years on the carousel.

Honestly, it seems like a waste of time even typing up a few paragraphs in response. I can't tell if this is an attempt at trolling, a forums meltdown, or a legitimate critique. You aren't framing your arguments or responding in a way to promote any sort of productive discourse, it's just a series of straw men which you set up and then fail to burn down in an effective or convincing manner.
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(07-10-2015 03:13 PM)la_mode Wrote:  Some of you guys are getting ready to corroborate and possibly jerk off together.

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