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I have trouble closing the deal with women, any help or suggestions there?

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10-17-2011 07:12 PM
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Need to be way more specific than that.

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10-17-2011 07:21 PM
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Dick in pussy.

(You can't be so broad)

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10-17-2011 07:26 PM
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Start making more overt moves and being shameless with escalating physically. Sometimes if you want something all you have to do is ask (in the case of woman, bringing up the topic of sex, etc)
10-17-2011 07:26 PM
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(10-17-2011 07:26 PM)Gmac Wrote:  Dick in pussy.

(You can't be so broad)

Oh you.


Fine, let me clarify the statement.

Where does the problem arise? Are you talking ONSs or multiple dates that go cold?

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10-17-2011 07:29 PM
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What exactly is your problem? Are you too worried to make moves? Are you making moves and just getting rejected? Or are you getting makeouts, but nothing more?
10-17-2011 08:01 PM
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(10-17-2011 07:12 PM)joker Wrote:  I have trouble closing the deal with women, any help or suggestions there?

People will be less likely to think you're a troll if you post these questions in the Newbie Forum.
10-17-2011 08:05 PM
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Single, white male, almost 20. I have problems escalating the situation further. I suck at text game and don't know how to escalate it further than a make-out when on a date

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10-17-2011 08:14 PM
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(10-17-2011 08:14 PM)joker Wrote:  Single, white male, almost 20. I have problems escalating the situation further. I suck at text game and don't know how to escalate it further than a make-out when on a date

You really need to give more information than that brah. There are a few dozen threads just like this one. How about some backstory?

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10-17-2011 08:20 PM
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Almost 20, at uni, i hit the gym, go out once a week on weekends, i suck at daygame, I don't drive although I have my license, living at home. I can't seem to put myself into situations where I can get bangs. That's why I think its soooooooooo much harder for me to bed women because of my 'lack of experience' as opposed to most guys here who have had much experience

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10-17-2011 08:29 PM
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Not to be rude, but start by getting some confidence in yourself. Then read Bang or that "kino escalation ladder" thread a while back.
10-17-2011 08:36 PM
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(10-17-2011 08:29 PM)joker Wrote:  Almost 20, at uni, i hit the gym, go out once a week on weekends, i suck at daygame, I don't drive although I have my license, living at home. I can't seem to put myself into situations where I can get bangs. That's why I think its soooooooooo much harder for me to bed women because of my 'lack of experience' as opposed to most guys here who have had much experience

Not all of us are players, I've built on the fact that I'm just now learning all this at 23 and I've been really at it for less then a year, shit less then 6 months.

The first thing, THE FIRST THING, is you gotta rep yourself. You have to get yourself to a point where when you look in the mirror, you can honestly say, not hype up, but honestly say "i'm fucking awesome".

Until you can do that, its all gonna be a facade, you're gonna be trying to be someone you're not. If you dont like you, why should any woman?

If you're in college, house parties. House parties till you die. I missed SO MANY opportunities in college because I was a beta lamer.

Network friends as well. This is something I'm just now figuring out, and again I wish I had known this years ago. Make guy friends, not girl friends. Girls are fucking and sandwiches, nothing else (especially because most can cook or clean worth a damn anymore).

But start with learning to love yourself. Lose some weight, get in shape, get a haircut, buy some new clothes, do whatever you have to so that you feel good about yourself. That positivity will radiate, people will notice. With that positive energy you'll make new friends, and new friends will lead you into good social situations where you can flourish.
10-17-2011 09:28 PM
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Good question arises from this - how do you get a chick into bed if you cant take them home because you live with your mum?
I feel that when I go out on dates, i can't even escalate as much as I would like to, because, where the hell am i gonna take them?
10-18-2011 01:40 AM
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General rule:

It should feel easy at all times. Not like "throwing a hotdog down hallway" easy, but easy with a little tension. If it doesn't, than do something easier like gaming lower value girls and build your skills. Or, practice just being more social and start looking for places to try game tricks/techniques/ideas (get a job bartending or something like that where you are interacting with a lot people).

Be persistent. If you push your boundaries everyday by just a little, your skill will increase overtime. It's like going to the gym- when you first start out, you don't go for the heaviest weights possible, but build up to them.
10-18-2011 02:12 AM
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(10-18-2011 01:40 AM)big poppa Wrote:  Good question arises from this - how do you get a chick into bed if you cant take them home because you live with your mum?
I feel that when I go out on dates, i can't even escalate as much as I would like to, because, where the hell am i gonna take them?

Their house, friends house, car, motel, or just be frank with your mom and tell her you might be bringing a girl home and to give you some space.

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10-18-2011 03:08 PM
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(10-18-2011 03:08 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  
(10-18-2011 01:40 AM)big poppa Wrote:  Good question arises from this - how do you get a chick into bed if you cant take them home because you live with your mum?
I feel that when I go out on dates, i can't even escalate as much as I would like to, because, where the hell am i gonna take them?

Their house, friends house, car, motel, or just be frank with your mom and tell her you might be bringing a girl home and to give you some space.


I totally agree on this,when i was 14/15 my parents actually told me to bring girls home instead of trying to bang them in a car or a park or whatever.It made my limited fumbling teenage game that little bit better being able to do that.
You might be surprised how open to it your parents are.(especially mum,she will think you have the girls dignity in mind and might even go out for the evening)
10-18-2011 11:42 PM
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Most moms that aren't bitches have this want to be "a cool mom"

Shit my mom sent me a huge box of condoms when I moved from the dorms into an apartment with some friends when I was in college

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10-19-2011 03:32 PM
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(10-19-2011 03:32 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  Most moms that aren't bitches have this want to be "a cool mom"

Shit my mom sent me a huge box of condoms when I moved from the dorms into an apartment with some friends when I was in college

My mum used to hide my condoms and take any posters of women off the walls. Overtime she started to understand that I was still gonna follow my human nature but it was only cool as long as I was discreet about it.
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Yeah my mum isnt too uptight but in terms of bringing random girls home I don't think she'd allow it.. She allows girlfriends who she knows staying over but that's about it.. Can't wait to start earning some money and get out of here.
10-19-2011 07:00 PM
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(10-18-2011 01:40 AM)big poppa Wrote:  Good question arises from this - how do you get a chick into bed if you cant take them home because you live with your mum?
I feel that when I go out on dates, i can't even escalate as much as I would like to, because, where the hell am i gonna take them?

Swoop them in public.

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You need to master your mom before you master girls. If you're mom has an issue with you having sex in her house, then either get your own place or convince her to be cool with it.
10-20-2011 03:43 AM
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