Post: #401

(10-04-2011 05:19 PM)TheWolfHowls Wrote:  

(09-29-2011 12:41 PM)KingofScotland Wrote:  I've got the good photos I think, my profile photo is pretty unusual, the other photos comprise of me in various exotic locations around the world, with groups of people having fun and of course me with good looking girls too.

I've tried to make my profile interesting by mentioning my travels, crazy things I've done, make my self seem care free and capricious but I think it probably comes across as too formal and lacks in wit or humour, I'm not good at conveying either of over the web in written form.

If anyone has any tips on how to speak about all the interesting / crazy things you've done or are doing, without actually just coming out and saying "I travelled around South America for 6 months" for example then I'd be willing to hear.

I put a little bit that says "Interesting / unusual facts about me" and then listed a few strange or cool things like crocodile wrestling, making a living from gambling , being on TV. Now I think about it all seems a bit like I'm trying too hard to impress.

What about exaggerating the cool things to where she knows your bullshitting lol. And for the traveling, why not make it perverted, like you go to all the Latin American countries for the sex festivals and stuff lol.

It seems like the more you disqualify yourself...they seem to take more notice. Reason being is when my profile was when i tried to sound amazing, playful and serious, i didn't get shit. lol.

There are a lot of ways to skin a cat. That is all.

Post: #402

I realize I'm new here so take this with a grain of newbie salt...

I used OKCupid extensively for many months. Once you get your profile locked down, the girls contact you first and its just an automatic machine of dates. At one point I was fucking 3-5 new girls per week just from OKCupid. Of course that came in waves, but generally that was dictated by my other ongoing relationships.

I don't know why at the beginning of this thread people suggested that online was a 'waste of time.' I found it to be like a money machine. Very little effort, very little time and the highest results of any method.

Girls online are there to find guys to fuck. Sure some are just browsing but they all decided at some point to get online to find some dick.

Can you say that about chicks when you go out?

Nope.

I had my routine down. Move to phone/text as soon as possible. Get date arranged for neighborhood bar. If things go well, bounce to thai place across the street. And lo and behold, my apartment was a block away.

Rinse, repeat.

On another website a well known PUA Celeb type and a bunch of us guys tested and tested a bunch of shit and there were just some easy lines that got people chicks emailing them all day.

My favorite was something like: "Don't message me if you're a stripper, bartender, aspiring actress, have breast implants or are a Scorpio: It never works."

That one line right there had people messaging me every day.

I ended up getting message by a bonafide 8-8.5 who is now my long term girl of a year. She was 24, I was 34.

Online seems to be the best, most efficient way to get quickly to comfort and rapport and ultimately sex...

Post: #403

Quote:There are a lot of ways to skin a cat. That is all.

Touche'

Post: #404

(10-04-2011 05:45 PM)dc1000 Wrote:  I used OKCupid extensively for many months. Once you get your profile locked down, the girls contact you first and its just an automatic machine of dates. At one point I was fucking 3-5 new girls per week just from OKCupid. Of course that came in waves, but generally that was dictated by my other ongoing relationships.

I'm a big proponent of online game myself and can completely relate to and agree with all that you've said, but holy effin shit, 3-5 new girls per week?? That's insanely high, and perhaps only the best guys on this forum have that rate. How did you pull it off, can you break down your game a little more?

You've mentioned you are 34 and I know 30's is the prime gaming time for a man, but 3-5 girls/week is simply mind-blowing. I also know it's possible to schedule a date for everyday of the week or even more for that matter if one has time, but getting the bangs is a different story. What was date:bang ratio? What city/state are you in? Are you a very goodlooking dude?

Post: #405

How do you even have the time to meet 3-5 new prospects a week while maintaining the backlog? You'll have to excuse of but the logistics just don't add up.

Post: #406

The strategy I get.

That many women contacting you first and banging 3-5 of them a week? Not unless you're Brad Pitt, and even then...

Even assuming you managed to lock in 3-5 dates a week (I've done it, but rarely without any flaking, which is near impossible), you'd need a 75-100% bang rate from those dates. I call shenanigans.

Quote:Girls online are there to find guys to fuck. Sure some are just browsing but they all decided at some point to get online to find some dick.

Minority. Most of the girls who want dick know they can go out any night of the week and find a man willing to go home with her.

Quote:I realize I'm new here so take this with a grain of newbie salt...

Done and done.

Post: #407

As a guy who's pretty tall and good looking with a hilarious profile, I also call bullshit on getting 3-5 dates every week of only dates where the girl messaged you first. Maybe it's cause I'm in shithole DC, but I can only pull 3-5 new dates a week if I'm messaging a LOT of girls, which I don't feel like doing because it's VERY time consuming.

Post: #408

Gmac, I have a friend who gets so much play on pof that he can't even log in without getting bombarded. Why I can't figure out. He had to stop because he couldn't keep up with all the sex/dates. Pm me if you want to see the profile it may help with your book. I witnessed this first hand and it's not B.S. It only took him 15 minutes to make the profile half drunk and his computer skills are almost non-exsistant.

Post: #409

(10-04-2011 05:45 PM)dc1000 Wrote:  On another website a well known PUA Celeb type and a bunch of us guys tested and tested a bunch of shit and there were just some easy lines that got people chicks emailing them all day.

My favorite was something like: "Don't message me if you're a stripper, bartender, aspiring actress, have breast implants or are a Scorpio: It never works."

What website is this? Any other lines?

(10-05-2011 01:59 AM)haywire Wrote:  You've mentioned you are 34 and I know 30's is the prime gaming time for a man, but 3-5 girls/week is simply mind-blowing. I also know it's possible to schedule a date for everyday of the week or even more for that matter if one has time, but getting the bangs is a different story. What was date:bang ratio? What city/state are you in? Are you a very goodlooking dude?

I have similar questions. Are you a minority or a tall white guy?

(10-05-2011 09:20 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Minority. Most of the girls who want dick know they can go out any night of the week and find a man willing to go home with her.

I have to agree with Gmac on this one. Women on online dating sites have other motives.

(10-05-2011 11:26 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Gmac, I have a friend who gets so much play on pof that he can't even log in without getting bombarded. Why I can't figure out. He had to stop because he couldn't keep up with all the sex/dates. Pm me if you want to see the profile it may help with your book. I witnessed this first hand and it's not B.S. It only took him 15 minutes to make the profile half drunk and his computer skills are almost non-esistant.

What part of the country is he based out of? Have you seen the girls he was pulling? Are they decent looking? I'm starting to think that online dating success is also location dependent. But I could be wrong.

That would be tough to pull off in the DC area. Mainly because it's such a small pool of attractive girls.

Post: #410

I guarantee its location dependent, and I know it would never work in the DC area, not because of the amount of attractive girls, but because

A) most of them over book the fuck out of themselves, especially the ones online. They're going to school full time, working, and working an unpayed internship. Then most cling to this over zealous family centric idea and will spend their one day off with their parents, as if living with those people for 18 years wasn't enough.

B) most of them are uptight as all hell. I've had many girls on POF cold shoulder me as soon as I tried to set up a date, and a few even openly stated they wouldn't go on a date with a stranger

I believe E Mech is out of Florida, and I could definitely see the crowd in Florida being the right type to be more applicable to online dating. I am curious to know what area this guy was in Mech, I wouldn't mind seeing that profile as well

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Post: #411

(10-05-2011 01:59 AM)haywire Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 05:45 PM)dc1000 Wrote:  I used OKCupid extensively for many months. Once you get your profile locked down, the girls contact you first and its just an automatic machine of dates. At one point I was fucking 3-5 new girls per week just from OKCupid. Of course that came in waves, but generally that was dictated by my other ongoing relationships.

I'm a big proponent of online game myself and can completely relate to and agree with all that you've said, but holy effin shit, 3-5 new girls per week?? That's insanely high, and perhaps only the best guys on this forum have that rate. How did you pull it off, can you break down your game a little more?

You've mentioned you are 34 and I know 30's is the prime gaming time for a man, but 3-5 girls/week is simply mind-blowing. I also know it's possible to schedule a date for everyday of the week or even more for that matter if one has time, but getting the bangs is a different story. What was date:bang ratio? What city/state are you in? Are you a very goodlooking dude?

Like I said, it was "at times 3-5 per week." There were a few crescendos where that happened. It wasn't every week and it wasn't even 10 weeks. But around 3 different times there were periods of just pure crazy.

You probably won't believe me but by the end, if I wanted to fuck the girl, I did. The dates were only there for me to decide if I wanted to or not. She had already prequalified herself to me and it was her approach and she was already into it.

Thats why having them email you first is the most important part of the whole thing.

Post: #412

(10-05-2011 11:19 AM)Scarlet_Terror Wrote:  As a guy who's pretty tall and good looking with a hilarious profile, I also call bullshit on getting 3-5 dates every week of only dates where the girl messaged you first. Maybe it's cause I'm in shithole DC, but I can only pull 3-5 new dates a week if I'm messaging a LOT of girls, which I don't feel like doing because it's VERY time consuming.

Notice my handle? I'm in DC too. I'm 6'4. My profile was tested, reviewed and got the results I wanted. In fact, there is an entire thread on another (MMA) website where I documented all of this with pictures and even videos of me fucking hot chicks that messaged me first on OKCupid.

75-90% of all dates online for me came from girls messaging me first. That was my rule because they were already in.

Church Key for a drink, Thai Tanic for dinner maybe and then my apt in Logan Circle. Know the area? It was a science.

Post: #413

(10-05-2011 09:12 AM)Vicious Wrote:  How do you even have the time to meet 3-5 new prospects a week while maintaining the backlog? You'll have to excuse of but the logistics just don't add up.

Like I said, it was "at times" and not ALL THE TIME.

Plus, there were many nights where I'd see two girls in one night. You guys never do that?

Post: #414

(10-05-2011 11:48 AM)rakishness Wrote:  

(10-04-2011 05:45 PM)dc1000 Wrote:  On another website a well known PUA Celeb type and a bunch of us guys tested and tested a bunch of shit and there were just some easy lines that got people chicks emailing them all day.

My favorite was something like: "Don't message me if you're a stripper, bartender, aspiring actress, have breast implants or are a Scorpio: It never works."

What website is this? Any other lines?

(10-05-2011 01:59 AM)haywire Wrote:  You've mentioned you are 34 and I know 30's is the prime gaming time for a man, but 3-5 girls/week is simply mind-blowing. I also know it's possible to schedule a date for everyday of the week or even more for that matter if one has time, but getting the bangs is a different story. What was date:bang ratio? What city/state are you in? Are you a very goodlooking dude?

I have similar questions. Are you a minority or a tall white guy?

(10-05-2011 09:20 AM)Gmac Wrote:  Minority. Most of the girls who want dick know they can go out any night of the week and find a man willing to go home with her.

I have to agree with Gmac on this one. Women on online dating sites have other motives.

(10-05-2011 11:26 AM)el mechanico Wrote:  Gmac, I have a friend who gets so much play on pof that he can't even log in without getting bombarded. Why I can't figure out. He had to stop because he couldn't keep up with all the sex/dates. Pm me if you want to see the profile it may help with your book. I witnessed this first hand and it's not B.S. It only took him 15 minutes to make the profile half drunk and his computer skills are almost non-esistant.

What part of the country is he based out of? Have you seen the girls he was pulling? Are they decent looking? I'm starting to think that online dating success is also location dependent. But I could be wrong.

That would be tough to pull off in the DC area. Mainly because it's such a small pool of attractive girls.

I'm not sure how to do quotes in quotes so here goes:

The PUA guy was Bravo from Style's old site/company. The website is an MMA website that has subforums. Yes, there are tons of other good lines and profile strategies. In fact, he used that thread as a testing ground for what ended becoming his online product he sells.

i'm 6'4, in shape, champion muay thai fighter, white, $150k+ in salary, dope pad in the best part of town (logan circle). Yes, all the stars line up for me, but really, it is the online profile that made it all work.

Typically, the pipeline would get full, i'd have the big bang weeks like I mentioned then pick one or two and stay with them for a few months while I filtered in other chicks from online as needed.

I could have had dates every night with new prospects, but frankly I screened plenty out.

Again, the key is getting them to message you and I think disqualifying them in the profile helps. Also taking the asshole approach, very confident and direct and fuck all that mushy shit I've seen from guys on there.

I think the women online want dick more than chicks going out and the ones that message you first are *already interested.* from there it is nothing more than you deciding if you want them and not fucking it up.

My profile is inactive right now (girlfriend) otherwise I'd happily link it to here.

The thread is on mixedmartialarts.com - subforum "Otherground" and the title is Bravo1s POF Thread?

Post: #415

@dc1000

thanks for sharing your story and info

it's VERY inspiring

quick question, can you share a bit of info on say the top 3 things a newbie can do to pimp out his profile?

and are awesome pics super important in your opinion?

Post: #416

I'm going to change my profile to DC . If I find some talent I will dispurse them on to you DC playas. What zip should I use and how many miles should my search be?

Post: #417

(10-05-2011 04:07 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I'm going to change my profile to DC . If I find some talent I will dispurse them on to you DC playas. What zip should I use and how many miles should my search be?

Try 20005 and a 15 mi radius. That should get DC and MD/VA suburbs near it.

Post: #418

(10-05-2011 04:21 PM)Menace Wrote:  

(10-05-2011 04:07 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  I'm going to change my profile to DC . If I find some talent I will dispurse them on to you DC playas. What zip should I use and how many miles should my search be?

Try 20005 and a 15 mi radius. That should get DC and MD/VA suburbs near it.

i live in 20005. i set my search criteria to the smallest radius possible.

preselect your pussy for EASE. i want them within walking distance or a short cab ride. i want them to be able to come over and walk home at 2am on a weeknight. i want them to be able to leave here in the morning to get home before work. i want me to be able to go there on a moment's notice.

if you have to drive, metro, bus or otherwise use long distance transport to get to your pussy or your pussy to you - its a waste and has a built in flake factor.

Post: #419

http : // http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?...992&page=1

there is the thread. it is like over 1750 messages long. if you take the time, the shit in there is GOLD. in fact, there are more than one blogger you may have read using that thread as a testing ground for material.

and if you go deep enough in there there are plenty of pictures from me. and yes, videos. hahaha. though i took the most egregious down.

Online game worked so well for me that my cold approach game? it sucks. I have terrible approach anxiety and I hardly ever open. I never needed to. I had a long line of bangable bitches sending me emails, opening me, asking me for dates and all I had to go was go see if I wanted to fuck them. Serious.

and ultimately I met a girlfriend worthy 6'0 24 year old honey there who messaged me first. it can be done!

Post: #420

(10-05-2011 02:35 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  I guarantee its location dependent, and I know it would never work in the DC area, not because of the amount of attractive girls, but because

A) most of them over book the fuck out of themselves, especially the ones online. They're going to school full time, working, and working an unpayed internship. Then most cling to this over zealous family centric idea and will spend their one day off with their parents, as if living with those people for 18 years wasn't enough.

seriously dude? 99% of the girls I met in DC were from somewhere else with parents out of state.

this is another reason why I like to keep things local. it makes it so much easier for everyone involved. keeps flake factor down.

Post: #421

(10-05-2011 03:46 PM)dc1000 Wrote:  i'm 6'4, in shape, champion muay thai fighter, white, $150k+ in salary, dope pad in the best part of town (logan circle). Yes, all the stars line up for me, but really, it is the online profile that made it all work.

It makes sense now with those stats.

The problem for us guys closer to the average end of the spectrum is all the wrong types of girls hit us up. While I absolutely agree that the ones that contact you first are the most likely DTF because they're already interested, of the ones I get... maybe 1 a month passes my boner test. My location in SW is money, but yours is gold. It's probably my biggest limiting factor in ONS's right now... logistics. I feel for the guys who don't even live in the city. I think I'm going to start saying my pad is "5 minutes" away, instead of 10-15 (by car).

Post: #422

(10-05-2011 05:11 PM)dc1000 Wrote:  

(10-05-2011 02:35 PM)Chad Daring Wrote:  I guarantee its location dependent, and I know it would never work in the DC area, not because of the amount of attractive girls, but because

A) most of them over book the fuck out of themselves, especially the ones online. They're going to school full time, working, and working an unpayed internship. Then most cling to this over zealous family centric idea and will spend their one day off with their parents, as if living with those people for 18 years wasn't enough.

seriously dude? 99% of the girls I met in DC were from somewhere else with parents out of state.

this is another reason why I like to keep things local. it makes it so much easier for everyone involved. keeps flake factor down.

Must be a 'burbs thing then. DC is just out of my reach for logistics, so I tend to stick to MoCo (god the fucking horror of this county) and all the girls out here are either absolute shite in all regards, or half way decent but over booked like crazy. That or Au Pairs who work till 10pm M-F and dont have a car on the weekends.

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Post: #423

I believe it. Ironically looks and height are more important online than in IRL.

Post: #424

Saw a profile on OKC in which a curvy (i.e. fat) chic says: "unless you think you can titillate me, don't waste your time." Titillate means to mentally stimulate but with a sexual connotation.
I know the battle is not worth it, but what do you send to someone like that to take the wind out of her fucking sails?

Post: #425

"How often do you try to convince yourself that nightly?"

not the best thing but its all i could come up with for that lol.