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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
(02-14-2011 03:05 AM)jfree Wrote: (02-13-2011 03:04 PM)MiXX Wrote: So, what does this all mean? I have a hard time trusting any woman who tells me "she loves me".......yeah, I banged many of those too!
Mixx
You're right Mixx. I came to a similar conclusion about women as you did. But, yet, I have a wife that I love who wonderfully raises our kids.
You see, I've learned over the years that, essentially, trust is a choice we make based on hope not a guarantee. Because, philosophically, if something is an actual sure thing, there is no need for trust.
-As a traveler, I know that planes crash, cars get into fatal accidents, muggers rob, epidemics break out, and food can be tainted. Yet, I still trust that they are unlikely to happen to me and continue to enjoy travel for extended stays throughout the year.
-As a businessman, I have been screwed over by various men and women in both large and small ways. Yet, I keep hiring employees and trust that they will use their talents and effort to increase business and profit (which typically benefits me most). Has it always happened? No. But, overall, the trust was warranted. I definitely could not have a successful set of businesses without trust.
-As a "lothario", I know that I can get STDs from oral(always unprotected for me both giving and receiving) and unprotected vaginal sex. I also have problems with some girls who turn crazy on me despite helping them understand exactly the ins on outs of the affair and screening them well. Yet, I still have sex with continuing numbers of new girls and trust that some will turn into great affairs for both me and them.
Which brings me back to "why trust women". For me, it was not about trusting that they stay sexually faithful. I don't. What I do choose to trust is that I was VERY lucky to find someone who naturally loves children and enjoys being with them almost all the time, who is intelligent (statistically smart women raise smart kids not to mention I truly enjoy her company and input), and is very beautiful and good at maintaining herself (good for my ego). But best of all, she has been so far fine with me having affairs as long as it is in another country.
So will it last, I trust so... but who the hell really knows, she can go crazy one day and drown all of the kids, or I can die or go crazy (nothing else would matter at that point), or a comet/asteroid can wipe humanity off the face of the earth. But, one thing I do know, I definitely would have no chance at having and raising beautiful smart kids if I didn't select a mate and opt to trust.
In purely male<->female dynamics, some women are mothers, some are daughters, some are mistresses, and the rest are fucks. Horses for courses.
I think this makes a lot of sense. I think it's important for guys to bang a lot of women initially before making that final purchase to understand the psychology of women.
This understand will increase their likelihood of picking the right woman and understanding the tendencies of women. Some men have unrealistic expectations on women and buy into all the whoo rah that women say..talking about men can't commit blah blah blah.
The importance of knowing game and not just being game is that one will understand why they were able to achieve a certain result.
There are a lot of guys who are very good at slaying a lot of women but cannot explain the process of what they are doing.
Maybe they are lucky and maybe at the end if they need to get a wifey, they will pick the right one with the same innate instinct they used to persuade a lizard to drop the knickers.
However, I feel that if one knows how they are doing something and understand the psychology of how women operate, they can pick themselves the correct wife (if that time ever comes) and they will be able to recognise and engage the appropriate triggers to make sure she doesn't step out of line.
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jfree
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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
(02-14-2011 08:57 AM)hydrogonian Wrote: (02-14-2011 03:05 AM)jfree Wrote: In purely male<->female dynamics, some women are mothers, some are daughters, some are mistresses, and the rest are fucks. Horses for courses.
Good post jfree.
Notice that in the above quote, there is no "some women are (natural) wives."
I think that says a lot about the legitimacy of Mixx's perspective and the psychology of women.
Thanks H.
I definitely agree with Mixx. For all I know, Mixx might have already rode through and banged my wife with the record he's got  .
I'm pretty sure she would have told me as I don't discourage her from having flings. She is smarter and more blunt than I am, I have to admit. Also, I know the kids are mine - had that verified through testing... because you never know  .
And, yes, what is a wife but a mistress with legal rights. Also, you can have kids without marriage (I don't mean divorced) which is, btw, more common in wealthy northern european countries such as sweden, norway, and finland (probably because of the great social services - men aren't a necessity to raising them).
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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
(02-14-2011 10:04 AM)MiXX Wrote: (02-14-2011 09:49 AM)Moma Wrote: persuade a lizard to drop the knickers.
LMAO! Dude, I love reading these terms you use. I've never heard them before, but I like 'em...
Mixx
There was a time in my life, I used to say to women: "i love you cupcake, i miss my honeydew, i heart my sunshine and dearest buttercup."
Moma has singlehandedly revamped my lexicon and woken up the sex crazed alligator inside me:
Now I say: "i banged that lizard, i am putting in my bid to slay that reptile, i will charm the panties off that toad and that hippo better be hungry" etc.
Thank you Moma
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afronoob
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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
(02-15-2011 06:11 PM)stein Wrote: (02-14-2011 10:04 AM)MiXX Wrote: (02-14-2011 09:49 AM)Moma Wrote: persuade a lizard to drop the knickers.
LMAO! Dude, I love reading these terms you use. I've never heard them before, but I like 'em...
Mixx
Quote:There was a time in my life, I used to say to women: "i love you cupcake, i miss my honeydew, i heart my sunshine and dearest buttercup."
Moma has singlehandedly revamped my lexicon and woken up the sex crazed alligator inside me:
Now I say: "i banged that lizard, i am putting in my bid to slay that reptile, i will charm the panties off that toad and that hippo better be hungry" etc.
Thank you Moma
@oldnemesis - the problem is that I have banged too many women in my life from all walks of life, races, financial means, looks, motives etc.
I have banged girls that swear they are die-hard religious "good girls" looking to become future nuns, (one even had a screenshot of Jesu Christ on her cell phone) immediately start praying after sex - begging for the lords forgiveness.
I have banged women who say "oh my god, I have never cheated on my husband before" right after having sex with me.
I have banged women in private jets that net more than $100M, to banging women that live in slums and ghettos - waiting for prince charming to save them from a life of struggle and hardship.
I have banged women who have elusive PHD's and keynote speakers at exclusive high society events, to banging women with only a GED and dreams.
I have banged my sexy 5th grade school teacher at a school reunion party that gave me hard-ons during math class. ** How many can say that?
I have banged gold-diggers and cave divers, to beauty pageant queens and ugly Bettys in a time of need.
I have banged women from as far south as Argentina, to as far east as Slovenia: They all favor doggie style over any position.
I have banged women who tell me they are strict lesbians and I am their first dick, to banging mother and daughter combinations.
I have banged women whose husbands have paid me to watch me fuck their wives at fetish parties. I once even banged two Colombiana twins backstage of a reggeaton concert in Medellin.
I have banged women who leave 100 dollar bills on my nightstand (without me asking for it) to women who have slashed the tires of my car and broke my windows.
I have banged women who have carried my seed and are in complete ecstasy at the thought of being the mother of my child, to later on miscarriage and cry until the sun goes down.
I have banged college girls and cougars alike, I even banged my mothers best girlfriend when I was 15. ** She still has not forgiven me for that
I have banged a corporate executive inside the bathroom of her office, and even banged a woman that worked at a spa in the middle of a jungle; right after she gave my girl a massage and she fell asleep.
I have banged good girls in Colombia to bad girls in New York, to bangin' Kim Kardashian look-a-like pros in Costa Rica.
I have banged women on the phone with their boyfriends; telling him how much she loves him while I'm pounding her.
I have banged women who are 3 weeks away from getting married, and will be making sacred promises to a man who will respect and love them 'til death.
I have banged women who cry for a man to truly love, but settle for a fuck while Mr. Right comes along.
I have banged daughters on the phone with their mothers, pretending to be 'doing laundry'.
I have banged blondes, latinas, white girls, sistas, brazilian, canadians.....all say the same thing: "I've never met anyone like you"
I have banged 3 virgins in my life, I wish I had more.....
I have banged bridesmaids, but never the bride....I have my limits you know.
I have banged 2 lady-cops, and 3 hardcore gangsta bitches strapped with 9mm weapons...I'll bang 'em all.
So, what does this all mean? I have a hard time trusting any woman who tells me "she loves me".......yeah, I banged many of those too!
Mixx
If there was ever a post that encapsulates what motivates forumers;this is it. Simple,eloquent yet all-encompassing;you've said it all MIXX! You've left us nothing to say. Someone should frame them in gold and immortalise them by forcing elementary schoolkids to memorise them to reverse the imminent faggotization of the Anglosphere.
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Screwston
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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
(02-14-2011 09:49 AM)Moma Wrote: (02-14-2011 03:05 AM)jfree Wrote: (02-13-2011 03:04 PM)MiXX Wrote: So, what does this all mean? I have a hard time trusting any woman who tells me "she loves me".......yeah, I banged many of those too!
Mixx
You're right Mixx. I came to a similar conclusion about women as you did. But, yet, I have a wife that I love who wonderfully rai.
-As a businessman, I have been screwed over by various men and women in both large and small ways. Yet, I keep hiring employees and trust that they will use their talents and effort to increase business and profit (which typically benefits me most). Has it always happened? No. But, overall, the trust was warranted. I definitely could not have a successful set of businesses without trust.
-As a "lothario", I know that I can get STDs from oral(always unprotected for me both giving and receiving) and unprotected vaginal sex. I also have problems with some girls who turn crazy on me despite helping them understand exactly the ins on outs of the affair and screening them well. Yet, I still have sex with continuing numbers of new girls and trust that some will turn into great affairs for both me and them.
Which brings me back to "why trust women". For me, it was not about trusting that they stay sexually faithful. I don't. What I do choose to trust is that I was VERY lucky to find someone who naturally loves children and enjoys being with them almost all the time, who is intelligent (statistically smart women raise smart kids not to mention I truly enjoy her company and input), and is very beautiful and good at maintaining herself (good for my ego). But best of all, she has been so far fine with me having affairs as long as it is in another country.
So will it last, I trust so... but who the hell really knows, she can go crazy one day and drown all of the kids, or I can die or go crazy (nothing else would matter at that point), or a comet/asteroid can wipe humanity off the face of the earth. But, one thing I do know, I definitely would have no chance at having and raising beautiful smart kids if I didn't select a mate and opt to trust.
In purely male<->female dynamics, some women are mothers, some are daughters, some are mistresses, and the rest are fucks. Horses for courses.
The importance of knowing game and not just being game is that one will understand why they were able to achieve a certain result.
There are a lot of guys who are very good at slaying a lot of women but cannot explain the process of what they are doing.
This is my problem. I want to fix it ASAP.
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Luckystar
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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
(02-13-2011 03:04 PM)MiXX Wrote: @oldnemesis - the problem is that I have banged too many women in my life from all walks of life, races, financial means, looks, motives etc.
I have banged girls that swear they are die-hard religious "good girls" looking to become future nuns, (one even had a screenshot of Jesu Christ on her cell phone) immediately start praying after sex - begging for the lords forgiveness.
I have banged women who say "oh my god, I have never cheated on my husband before" right after having sex with me.
I have banged women in private jets that net more than $100M, to banging women that live in slums and ghettos - waiting for prince charming to save them from a life of struggle and hardship.
I have banged women who have elusive PHD's and keynote speakers at exclusive high society events, to banging women with only a GED and dreams.
I have banged my sexy 5th grade school teacher at a school reunion party that gave me hard-ons during math class. ** How many can say that?
I have banged gold-diggers and cave divers, to beauty pageant queens and ugly Bettys in a time of need.
I have banged women from as far south as Argentina, to as far east as Slovenia: They all favor doggie style over any position.
I have banged women who tell me they are strict lesbians and I am their first dick, to banging mother and daughter combinations.
I have banged women whose husbands have paid me to watch me fuck their wives at fetish parties. I once even banged two Colombiana twins backstage of a reggeaton concert in Medellin.
I have banged women who leave 100 dollar bills on my nightstand (without me asking for it) to women who have slashed the tires of my car and broke my windows.
I have banged women who have carried my seed and are in complete ecstasy at the thought of being the mother of my child, to later on miscarriage and cry until the sun goes down.
I have banged college girls and cougars alike, I even banged my mothers best girlfriend when I was 15. ** She still has not forgiven me for that
I have banged a corporate executive inside the bathroom of her office, and even banged a woman that worked at a spa in the middle of a jungle; right after she gave my girl a massage and she fell asleep.
I have banged good girls in Colombia to bad girls in New York, to bangin' Kim Kardashian look-a-like pros in Costa Rica.
I have banged women on the phone with their boyfriends; telling him how much she loves him while I'm pounding her.
I have banged women who are 3 weeks away from getting married, and will be making sacred promises to a man who will respect and love them 'til death.
I have banged women who cry for a man to truly love, but settle for a fuck while Mr. Right comes along.
I have banged daughters on the phone with their mothers, pretending to be 'doing laundry'.
I have banged blondes, latinas, white girls, sistas, brazilian, canadians.....all say the same thing: "I've never met anyone like you"
I have banged 3 virgins in my life, I wish I had more.....
I have banged bridesmaids, but never the bride....I have my limits you know.
I have banged 2 lady-cops, and 3 hardcore gangsta bitches strapped with 9mm weapons...I'll bang 'em all.
So, what does this all mean? I have a hard time trusting any woman who tells me "she loves me".......yeah, I banged many of those too!
Mixx
It means you are a beast and you cannot be tamed brotha!
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Mystik
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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
(02-13-2011 03:04 PM)MiXX Wrote: @oldnemesis - the problem is that I have banged too many women in my life from all walks of life, races, financial means, looks, motives etc.
I have banged girls that swear they are die-hard religious "good girls" looking to become future nuns, (one even had a screenshot of Jesu Christ on her cell phone) immediately start praying after sex - begging for the lords forgiveness.
I have banged women who say "oh my god, I have never cheated on my husband before" right after having sex with me.
I have banged women in private jets that net more than $100M, to banging women that live in slums and ghettos - waiting for prince charming to save them from a life of struggle and hardship.
I have banged women who have elusive PHD's and keynote speakers at exclusive high society events, to banging women with only a GED and dreams.
I have banged my sexy 5th grade school teacher at a school reunion party that gave me hard-ons during math class. ** How many can say that?
I have banged gold-diggers and cave divers, to beauty pageant queens and ugly Bettys in a time of need.
I have banged women from as far south as Argentina, to as far east as Slovenia: They all favor doggie style over any position.
I have banged women who tell me they are strict lesbians and I am their first dick, to banging mother and daughter combinations.
I have banged women whose husbands have paid me to watch me fuck their wives at fetish parties. I once even banged two Colombiana twins backstage of a reggeaton concert in Medellin.
I have banged women who leave 100 dollar bills on my nightstand (without me asking for it) to women who have slashed the tires of my car and broke my windows.
I have banged women who have carried my seed and are in complete ecstasy at the thought of being the mother of my child, to later on miscarriage and cry until the sun goes down.
I have banged college girls and cougars alike, I even banged my mothers best girlfriend when I was 15. ** She still has not forgiven me for that
I have banged a corporate executive inside the bathroom of her office, and even banged a woman that worked at a spa in the middle of a jungle; right after she gave my girl a massage and she fell asleep.
I have banged good girls in Colombia to bad girls in New York, to bangin' Kim Kardashian look-a-like pros in Costa Rica.
I have banged women on the phone with their boyfriends; telling him how much she loves him while I'm pounding her.
I have banged women who are 3 weeks away from getting married, and will be making sacred promises to a man who will respect and love them 'til death.
I have banged women who cry for a man to truly love, but settle for a fuck while Mr. Right comes along.
I have banged daughters on the phone with their mothers, pretending to be 'doing laundry'.
I have banged blondes, latinas, white girls, sistas, brazilian, canadians.....all say the same thing: "I've never met anyone like you"
I have banged 3 virgins in my life, I wish I had more.....
I have banged bridesmaids, but never the bride....I have my limits you know.
I have banged 2 lady-cops, and 3 hardcore gangsta bitches strapped with 9mm weapons...I'll bang 'em all.
So, what does this all mean? I have a hard time trusting any woman who tells me "she loves me".......yeah, I banged many of those too!
Mixx
Copied and printed this out. I will read this every morning until I achieve something that is even remotely comparable.
Athlone, thanks for providing a link to this post, I wonder how I missed it.
(This post was last modified: 08-23-2011 10:17 AM by Mystik.)
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Moma
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mrhappy
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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
I dont go for it on the first date normally. You probably arent going to get it and it will turn her off for the future. Many women Ive fucked first date ended up being one night stands, when I wanted more.
The exceptions would be if shes grabbing my cock or we are only in the same place for a short time, like on vacation, so theres no point in waiting.
Even if you can, it might ruin your chances next time. If you don't care, make out for at least half an hour in a private place, gauge reaction, rub her tits, gauge reaction, suck her tits, gauge reaction, put her hands on your dick or touch her snatch, gauge reaction, take her clothes off, gauge reaction and go from there. If at any point she tells you or acts like she doesnt want it, back off to previous level and gauge reaction. Or just ask if she wants to have sex. Much better to leave blue balled and spank it at home then the alternatives.
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mrhappy
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RE: Do you guys normally go for the lay on the 1st date?
(10-03-2011 07:59 PM)mrhappy Wrote: "the 3 date principal for getting the lay, has now moved to 2 dates."
I disagree based on my experience and talking to girls. If you push hard you'll get dumped more often. Yes girls want to fuck but they are scared of being labeled a slut, easy or feeling guilty.
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