Just arrived back home after crashing the night at my old plate's room. I feel like time is ticking, because she is starting to show the message that she wants a boyfriend. Perhaps I should just fake to be her boyfriend, act like it, while continuing my job with the others.

Sounds like you value fucking her too much. Putting her on ice is probably the prudent move. Pretending to be a bf is too close to being a bf. Basically it's a slippery slope and at the bottom of the slope is a big pile of oneitis.

Remember, if you make someone love you then you'll love them back.

Great weekend in the "big city" that I've been traveling to to game. It's two states over from my comparative milque toast town. My strategy is to use dating apps/online game and get as many dates lined up in the city as I can. I bump my age down into the 30s. I also usually double book each night for potential flakes. The "second dates" later in the day that I book in case the first girl flakes are the less desirable girls.

A bit 'tldr' so the bottom line/overview is: 4 bangs with 3 different girls. 3 girls were within 24 hours and one of them is probably the hottest girl I've ever been with. I got two first date bangs and banged another girl I'd previously been with on my last trip.

The breakdown:

Fly in Thursday. Had a date lined up with a short, athletic latina. She's a fitness model. Does tumbling. Strong legs, defined traps and arms/etc. 20 years old. Intense brown eyes. I'd rate her a 7. I was waiting at a table out front of an Italian restaurant dressed in my customary blue blazer, pocket square and pressed chinos. Beautiful crisp cool evening. I glance up from messing with my phone and spot a latina girl crossing the street intensely looking at me. Instant recognition. I grab her a wine inside. We talk. She's got a calm quiet demeanor. I occasionally glance at her well toned muscular legs crossed towards me. I'm basically following Tuth's first date formula and it's helped me a lot. After 40 minutes or so, I suggest a 'venue change' to show her the view from my hotel room that I've dropped tid bits about.

In my room, I joke about there's no couch so I try to make my bed "like a couch" with the way I prop the pillows up. Ha. She says "no, that's a bed. Not a couch" oh well. She called me on my BS. Regardless, we both take our shoes off and get on the bed to watch TV, leaning up against pillows.

We watch TV for a bit and channel surf. Kino ensues. I set my drink down and kiss her after about 15 minutes. Clothes start coming off. Titties start getting sucked. Moaning ensues. Got the bang.

We did it everywhere from the bed, to leaning against the window overlooking the city, to bent over the table in the room. Nice workout session with this little thing. I had to make her wear heels when we were standing so I could get her up to my cock level.

Next night, Friday a girl I banged on my last trip comes over. Dominican Republic brown girl. Ass to die for. Built like a track runner (she was actually) When I get her to my room after drinks her employer calls and demands she brings her something.

Apparently the girl is a nanny and the employer( who's a lesbian incidentally) doesn't have keys to get in the house but my girl has the keys. She says sorry and she'll come back afterwards. Long story short, it takes her forever and we plan over text for Saturday (the next day )to do something. I was pissed because I was worked up and horny and essentially got cock blocked by a lesbian.

Next night, the Dominican republic girl is giving me uncertain vibes so I text the girl from the first night, the fit Latina to go to dinner ( I was legitimately hungry ) we eat for an hour and go back to my room. She puts up some resistance after a makeout saying she felt a little unusual about the first date night as she doesn't "ever do that" I said "that's fine, I want you to be comfortable" So, we go back to watching TV and talking. A few minutes later, We watched a storm roll in through the window lightining and all. Started making out in front of the window. Moved her to the bed and she was good to go. She had the quote of the weekend. When I asked her if she liked it while we were banging, she replied "you're smashing my pussy"

The next morning, Sunday the Dominican girl texted me and said she was eager to see me. I invited her over straight to my room. She got there about noon. After a few minutes of talking she shuts the curtains and says she's going to the bathroom to get "out of her clothes" Bang on. A nice ass pounding experience if I do say so myself. She had to leave soon after to go babysit the kids for her nanny job. She sent me a few texts soon after.

That afternoon, I take a much needed nap.

Later that afternoon, I set up a date with the hottest girl of all. We'd been going back and forth online and she sent me a message to just text her. So I did. She's 21, a sweet Latina. An 8. Her face is probably even higher ....just a light skinned classic beauty Latina with big brown eyes and full lips. She's got an athletic body great legs and ass. I met her for drinks at a place close to the hotel. She was so bubbly and mature for her age. She's a cheerful smiler. She was also very traditional sounding and raised by a traditional Mexican family. A few times I had to force myself to hold frame as she was such a quality and beautiful girl. I did kino and stayed calm. Definite attraction between us with the laughing and eyes. I dropped a few hints about the hotel I was staying in and how "they always give me a good room with a view there"

I suggest to go back to check out some live music in my hotel lobby. She readily agrees and we walk that way. Since it's Sunday night, there's no damn music. We sit in the lobby sipping water and talking. At one point she says "so, you're on the 8th floor ?" I'm thinking "that's a nice subtle hint"

We bounce to the room on the 8th floor. After a few minutes of looking at the view over the city and watching some TV while channel surfing making fun of stupid TV shows, I go for the kiss. It's eagerly returned. The next hour was the best most passionate bang of the trip. Afterwards I dropped her off at her car with a kiss and a smile on her face.

So, that's my personal best ever, 3 bangs ( by different girls ) in 24 hours. Honestly, I'd never even banged two different girls in the same MONTH or longer up until a few months ago. Needless to say, the manosphere has helped me a lot.

I'm spent now but smiling and on my way back to the airport. If only my hometown I live in could offer something even half this good. Oh well, I'll be coming back here again in a few weeks.

Do I read write that you're 40 something but say you're 30 something and banged 3 girls aged ~20 that were all basically hotties in that 24 hour period?

That's fucking amazing. I hope I'm having that much fun when I'm 40 something.

(04-19-2015 08:45 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  

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(04-17-2015 09:39 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 08:35 PM)Mentavious Wrote:  How can Michigan's talent pool be so low? Go outside of the college towns and it can be brutal. You guys living in Cali and NYC are lucky.

Man, I was talking about this with some friends the other day. Night game is almost a complete no-go here, so I rarely even bother any more, although it is warming up bit. You can somewhat circumvent the weak night game by going to those after work networking events and the art events/parties downtown can be pretty decent, but you've gotta get creative. For example, going to strip clubs and gaming strippers on a slow night. Managed to close one in Windsor a few weeks ago. I know a few guys her that fly girls in from other cities that they've been to as well.

One of the main reasons I left the state, still come back every so often though...but in addition to visiting the usual hot spots, I pipeline bitches online a couple weeks out

*Before US passport etc, you could travel through the tunnel without too much hassle...damn Windsor was a magical place

Yup, one must think outside the box. I'm also hoping the warm weather will make a difference.

Funny how you guys talk about girls not from Michigan as the last 6 out of 7 girls I've hooked up with were not actually born here.

Is downtown Windsor a good spot for Daygame?

Not sure these days, we would only go clubbing out there. There was a cool spot right as you came into Canada.

I would be interested to know what else it had to offer during daylight hours

Why I love GR. Lotsa college chics, and very large mid-20's crowd here. The home-grown crowd from uppity suburbs of the city produce tons of hotties...who go to MSU, GV, and other local colleges.

I'll say, weekend night game here draws unreal quality. I have friends who love coming here for the weekend. Plenty of ugmo and fatties as well tho.

Time to work on my datasheet.

(04-20-2015 11:17 AM)Soaked Wrote:  Do I read write that you're 40 something but say you're 30 something and banged 3 girls aged ~20 that were all basically hotties in that 24 hour period?

That's fucking amazing. I hope I'm having that much fun when I'm 40 something.

^ that's right. I'm in 40s but I do "look" anywhere from 33-38ish. I'm in good shape, boyish haircut and smooth face ( slight wrinkling starting) So, I think my genetics help a bit but it's also very dependent on how you take care of yourself, workout and dress.
These girls aren't even questioning my age. bottom line - attraction is attraction.
I obviously owe a lot to the Forum here and the manosphere in general. Learning things like the nature of women, logistics, correct style, how to talk to girls on dates. But, I won't say I owe it "all" to the manosphere as I did a lot of work myself: approaching, getting rejected and different dating strategies myself until I started to find things that worked. I'm believing more and more in the Heartiste SMV graphs as I get older.

(04-20-2015 11:25 AM)heavy Wrote:  

(04-19-2015 08:45 AM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 08:15 AM)Mentavious Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 10:30 PM)MY DETROIT PLAYAS Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 09:39 PM)Joga Bonito Wrote:  Man, I was talking about this with some friends the other day. Night game is almost a complete no-go here, so I rarely even bother any more, although it is warming up bit. You can somewhat circumvent the weak night game by going to those after work networking events and the art events/parties downtown can be pretty decent, but you've gotta get creative. For example, going to strip clubs and gaming strippers on a slow night. Managed to close one in Windsor a few weeks ago. I know a few guys her that fly girls in from other cities that they've been to as well.

One of the main reasons I left the state, still come back every so often though...but in addition to visiting the usual hot spots, I pipeline bitches online a couple weeks out

*Before US passport etc, you could travel through the tunnel without too much hassle...damn Windsor was a magical place

Yup, one must think outside the box. I'm also hoping the warm weather will make a difference.

Funny how you guys talk about girls not from Michigan as the last 6 out of 7 girls I've hooked up with were not actually born here.

Is downtown Windsor a good spot for Daygame?

Not sure these days, we would only go clubbing out there. There was a cool spot right as you came into Canada.

I would be interested to know what else it had to offer during daylight hours

Why I love GR. Lotsa college chics, and very large mid-20's crowd here. The home-grown crowd from uppity suburbs of the city produce tons of hotties...who go to MSU, GV, and other local colleges.

I'll say, weekend night game here draws unreal quality. I have friends who love coming here for the weekend. Plenty of ugmo and fatties as well tho.

Time to work on my datasheet.

Love Kazoo & GR. Lots of small town cuties from the surrounding area converge to experience "city life". Summertime concerts @ the Van Andel, festivals, downtown bars etc

Used to enjoy the old mall on 28th street and the newer one in Grandville - hotties galore

Looking forward to that datasheet

(04-20-2015 10:45 AM)robreke Wrote:  Great weekend in the "big city" that I've been traveling to to game. It's two states over from my comparative milque toast town. My strategy is to use dating apps/online game and get as many dates lined up in the city as I can. I bump my age down into the 30s. I also usually double book each night for potential flakes. The "second dates" later in the day that I book in case the first girl flakes are the less desirable girls.

A bit 'tldr' so the bottom line/overview is: 4 bangs with 3 different girls. 3 girls were within 24 hours and one of them is probably the hottest girl I've ever been with. I got two first date bangs and banged another girl I'd previously been with on my last trip.

The breakdown:

Fly in Thursday. Had a date lined up with a short, athletic latina. She's a fitness model. Does tumbling. Strong legs, defined traps and arms/etc. 20 years old. Intense brown eyes. I'd rate her a 7. I was waiting at a table out front of an Italian restaurant dressed in my customary blue blazer, pocket square and pressed chinos. Beautiful crisp cool evening. I glance up from messing with my phone and spot a latina girl crossing the street intensely looking at me. Instant recognition. I grab her a wine inside. We talk. She's got a calm quiet demeanor. I occasionally glance at her well toned muscular legs crossed towards me. I'm basically following Tuth's first date formula and it's helped me a lot. After 40 minutes or so, I suggest a 'venue change' to show her the view from my hotel room that I've dropped tid bits about.

In my room, I joke about there's no couch so I try to make my bed "like a couch" with the way I prop the pillows up. Ha. She says "no, that's a bed. Not a couch" oh well. She called me on my BS. Regardless, we both take our shoes off and get on the bed to watch TV, leaning up against pillows.

We watch TV for a bit and channel surf. Kino ensues. I set my drink down and kiss her after about 15 minutes. Clothes start coming off. Titties start getting sucked. Moaning ensues. Got the bang.

We did it everywhere from the bed, to leaning against the window overlooking the city, to bent over the table in the room. Nice workout session with this little thing. I had to make her wear heels when we were standing so I could get her up to my cock level.

Next night, Friday a girl I banged on my last trip comes over. Dominican Republic brown girl. Ass to die for. Built like a track runner (she was actually) When I get her to my room after drinks her employer calls and demands she brings her something.

Apparently the girl is a nanny and the employer( who's a lesbian incidentally) doesn't have keys to get in the house but my girl has the keys. She says sorry and she'll come back afterwards. Long story short, it takes her forever and we plan over text for Saturday (the next day )to do something. I was pissed because I was worked up and horny and essentially got cock blocked by a lesbian.

Next night, the Dominican republic girl is giving me uncertain vibes so I text the girl from the first night, the fit Latina to go to dinner ( I was legitimately hungry ) we eat for an hour and go back to my room. She puts up some resistance after a makeout saying she felt a little unusual about the first date night as she doesn't "ever do that" I said "that's fine, I want you to be comfortable" So, we go back to watching TV and talking. A few minutes later, We watched a storm roll in through the window lightining and all. Started making out in front of the window. Moved her to the bed and she was good to go. She had the quote of the weekend. When I asked her if she liked it while we were banging, she replied "you're smashing my pussy"

The next morning, Sunday the Dominican girl texted me and said she was eager to see me. I invited her over straight to my room. She got there about noon. After a few minutes of talking she shuts the curtains and says she's going to the bathroom to get "out of her clothes" Bang on. A nice ass pounding experience if I do say so myself. She had to leave soon after to go babysit the kids for her nanny job. She sent me a few texts soon after.

That afternoon, I take a much needed nap.

Later that afternoon, I set up a date with the hottest girl of all. We'd been going back and forth online and she sent me a message to just text her. So I did. She's 21, a sweet Latina. An 8. Her face is probably even higher ....just a light skinned classic beauty Latina with big brown eyes and full lips. She's got an athletic body great legs and ass. I met her for drinks at a place close to the hotel. She was so bubbly and mature for her age. She's a cheerful smiler. She was also very traditional sounding and raised by a traditional Mexican family. A few times I had to force myself to hold frame as she was such a quality and beautiful girl. I did kino and stayed calm. Definite attraction between us with the laughing and eyes. I dropped a few hints about the hotel I was staying in and how "they always give me a good room with a view there"

I suggest to go back to check out some live music in my hotel lobby. She readily agrees and we walk that way. Since it's Sunday night, there's no damn music. We sit in the lobby sipping water and talking. At one point she says "so, you're on the 8th floor ?" I'm thinking "that's a nice subtle hint"

We bounce to the room on the 8th floor. After a few minutes of looking at the view over the city and watching some TV while channel surfing making fun of stupid TV shows, I go for the kiss. It's eagerly returned. The next hour was the best most passionate bang of the trip. Afterwards I dropped her off at her car with a kiss and a smile on her face.

So, that's my personal best ever, 3 bangs ( by different girls ) in 24 hours. Honestly, I'd never even banged two different girls in the same MONTH or longer up until a few months ago. Needless to say, the manosphere has helped me a lot.

I'm spent now but smiling and on my way back to the airport. If only my hometown I live in could offer something even half this good. Oh well, I'll be coming back here again in a few weeks.

Awesome to read.

- you've been putting in some work approaching women in difficult situations like Whole Foods and cool to see it's paid off
- also cool to see a dude 35+ gaming at that level

Keep it up.

There are so many aspects of game that need to be fine-tuned. Based on the experiences of this past weekend the ones I want highlight and keep in mind are:
- Persistence
- Endgame

Went to a trashy bar on the westside. Saw this 2set of skanky 7.5s (brunette/blonde) sitting together. I let some betas get at them before I approached. I knew the blonde was eye'ing. I waited for her to hit the restroom before I opened the brunette, and as I expected, I got a steady dose of attitude. Blah, blah, blah, once the blonde comes back, I tell the brunette I'd like to switch. She agrees.

I speak to blonde for 5 minutes, before brunette interrupts rudely and tells me they are 'on a date'. At that point the brunette and I chat for a couple of minutes. As she is giving me attitude, I start smiling, not like a grinning fool, but the smile where your eyes smirk as your mouth smiles (James Bond type). I notice her smile back while giving me attitude....a faint IOI.

At this point I disengage and go back to the bar. This is where I fuck up. I had number closed the blonde and, as I notice no other targets at the location, I exit the place. Later on that night I realize, and I realize this is an outlandish claim, but I've been doing this long enough where I knew that I possibly fucked up a chance at a probable threesome. Given that a) the blonde was down and bi, all I had to do was b) game brunette. The blonde would get turned on watching me game the brunette and if the brunette was down - given the right logistics, it was a real possibility.

Lesson: I wasn't thinking about the endgame, instead I settled on the minor win (number close - which is statistically useless at night) and moved on to find someone else.

Always be thinking 2-4 steps ahead (endgame) instead of looking at the next opportunity. There is a fine line between wasting time on a set and not recognizing good opportunities.

Looking for some input here guys.

Went on 3 dates in the past 3 weeks but I haven't been able to close any of them for the life of me. I basically ran the same game that worked for me in the past. Date 1: Drink, make out. Date 2: Drink, bang.

But the same method has gotten me nowhere with the past 3 chicks.

Hinge Chick: Standard online game. Exchanged #'s arranged meet up on Thursday. She's actually few inches taller than I am. Banter, I bought us first round. (The bar was really crowded at that time and I think I DLV because we waited for a while to get drinks.) We sat in the middle of the room, banter and multiple made out for about half an hour.

I decided to take her to the corner of the bar to turn the heat up and feel her pussy, she reciprocated by rubbing my dick as well. More intense make out sessions. I then pulled myself away and said we'll do more next time with a grin. Before we leave I had to close my card, again I think I DLV there too since the bartender pretty much treated me as nobody. Waited another 10 minutes just to fucking close it (she saw the whole thing while waiting next to me)

^Self reflection: Did I escalated too quickly and scared the broad? Or I simply DLV too much at the bar?

Tinder Chick: Standard online game. Met up Wednesday night, took shots, made out. Afterwards I led her to a park nearby, found a dark corner and fingered her. She moaned thoroughly enjoyed it but since there were people around I didn't think of making her give me a bj right then and there.

During our date I found out she had invited guys straight to her place to fuck in the past for first date. I'm thinking I could have done the same and missed my chance

^Self reflection: Not sure if I failed to provide the thrill since she had done ONS in the past.

OKC Chick: Met for drink on Friday night (first for me since I always avoid arranging first date on prime nights), went in for the kiss and she turned her head ha. Said she didn't like PDA (I call bs). Date went on for another 2~3 hours during which she asked where I live, if I had plan next morning etc. Also told me she had done ONS with guys. Not much else to write on this one. Knew it wasn't going to happen so I ejected with bs excuse.

^Self reflection: I think she was down but since I have shit logistic I missed my chance for SNL.

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I try to push as far as I can with girls on first date since I have bad logistic and arrange for the bang on second date. It's worked out well for my past 13 lays but failed pretty bad with recent 3 chicks All of them went cold after ~5 days of texting. Other than the obvious of improving my logistic and go for SNL is there any other way I can improve my game?

Also, not sure if it's because these 3 broads have more "experience" than I do and can tell I've never done ONS or whatever so they moved along. I've thrived in my past lays because I felt I was "more experienced"

(04-21-2015 03:52 PM)wandenreich Wrote:  Looking for some input here guys.

Went on 3 dates in the past 3 weeks but I haven't been able to close any of them for the life of me. I basically ran the same game that worked for me in the past. Date 1: Drink, make out. Date 2: Drink, bang.

But the same method has gotten me nowhere with the past 3 chicks.

Hinge Chick: Standard online game. Exchanged #'s arranged meet up on Thursday. She's actually few inches taller than I am. Banter, I bought us first round. (The bar was really crowded at that time and I think I DLV because we waited for a while to get drinks.) We sat in the middle of the room, banter and multiple made out for about half an hour.

I decided to take her to the corner of the bar to turn the heat up and feel her pussy, she reciprocated by rubbing my dick as well. More intense make out sessions. I then pulled myself away and said we'll do more next time with a grin. Before we leave I had to close my card, again I think I DLV there too since the bartender pretty much treated me as nobody. Waited another 10 minutes just to fucking close it (she saw the whole thing while waiting next to me)

^Self reflection: Did I escalated too quickly and scared the broad? Or I simply DLV too much at the bar?

Tinder Chick: Standard online game. Met up Wednesday night, took shots, made out. Afterwards I led her to a park nearby, found a dark corner and fingered her. She moaned thoroughly enjoyed it but since there were people around I didn't think of making her give me a bj right then and there.

During our date I found out she had invited guys straight to her place to fuck in the past for first date. I'm thinking I could have done the same and missed my chance

^Self reflection: Not sure if I failed to provide the thrill since she had done ONS in the past.

OKC Chick: Met for drink on Friday night (first for me since I always avoid arranging first date on prime nights), went in for the kiss and she turned her head ha. Said she didn't like PDA (I call bs). Date went on for another 2~3 hours during which she asked where I live, if I had plan next morning etc. Also told me she had done ONS with guys. Not much else to write on this one. Knew it wasn't going to happen so I ejected with bs excuse.

^Self reflection: I think she was down but since I have shit logistic I missed my chance for SNL.

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I try to push as far as I can with girls on first date since I have bad logistic and arrange for the bang on second date. It's worked out well for my past 13 lays but failed pretty bad with recent 3 chicks All of them went cold after ~5 days of texting. Other than the obvious of improving my logistic and go for SNL is there any other way I can improve my game?

Also, not sure if it's because these 3 broads have more "experience" than I do and can tell I've never done ONS or whatever so they moved along. I've thrived in my past lays because I felt I was "more experienced"

I don't think any of your self perceived DLV moves made a bit of difference. The glaring theme I see in your report is that you are escalating hard and fast (which is good) but can't finish the job where you are. You had mentioned your logistics are crap and until you can get those handled you're going to run into this over and over.

If you don't have your own place, take her to your car, find an isolated area of a park, but for the love of god don't finger her in a bar and then send her on her way...

^^ I feel your pain, my last 3 dates have been bust as well.

Date 1: FOB Chinese girl who was more of a butterface in person than in her Tinder pictures, was very nervous around me and quite a boring person. When I kiss closed at the end of the date she didn't take it well at all. I didn't bother following up, she's not pretty enough to waste my time on.

Date 2: Went for a coffee date near my work (but not near my house so terrible bang logistics but I thought she was an extreme chance of flaking) with 23 year old girl from the "What should I text next thread" as I was curious, quite pretty in person but lives ages from me and had crazy vibes. Hasn't been on a date since she broke up with her ex 3 year ago, literally said to me she doesn't have any friends and doesn't think people are worthwhile investing in, doesn't like other girls and spends her weekends playing domino's with her parents because she doesn't believe going out is worth it.
The juice doesn't seem worth the squeeze so #next.

Date 3: Second date with a 22 year old from OKC. Made out with her on the first date so thought this one would go well. Went to a pool hall and let her win the first game and then won the next 2. Had a fun vibe going, laughing and teasing her but despite that I wasn't feeling it. Tried to get kino going at the pool hall but she didn't really let me or respond. Ended up dropping her off at her place and not doing anything, didn't go for the kiss or ask to come up and use her bathroom. Kicking myself as I thought my game had moved past being hesitant about shit like that. I think it was actually my mood as I'd had a shitty day at work and was tired and because I hadn't detected a green lights I let myself be defeated without trying.
Will try and get her out on a 3rd date but I think this ship has probably sailed.

Got a date with a girl who seems very attractive and in to me on Saturday. We'll see how that goes.

I met up late this afternoon with a 19yo that I met and banged from OKC back in Feb. I had tried to reconnect with her a few times since Feb and back in March she told me that she had a boyfriend and wanted to focus on him. Sure, whatever... Fast forward to last Sunday and I decide out of the blue to hit her up and she's very happy to hear from me. In our text conversation I don't ask about her BF but she asks me if I have a GF and I reply with "nah, just dating". We agree to meetup for coffee this afternoon and she shows up right on time. We get our drinks and sit down and I start teasing her about all kinds of things.

After a little bit of small talk I ask her what's new in her life and she tells me that she's been seeing the same BF now for a little over two months. I pretty much act like she's talking about the weather. She proceeds to tell me that the thing that really attracted her was that he had an exotic sports car (she's a huge car nut) but unfortunately he had to sell it. Then she pretty much implies that he's not that great looking but she "loves him to death" and then follows up with "not in love but you know what I mean" Umm, sure I do

The next several minutes I go from being indifferent to all this to mildly teasing her about how into her BF she is and then suggest we go check out my new apartment which is just across the street.

Her: "Oh, so you're trying to do THAT again??"
Me: "What?" with a slightly annoyed look on my face

She then drops it and we continue talking more. The whole time I'm touching her shoulder, arm and eventually am resting my forearm on her leg. About 10 minutes later I say "come on, let's go see my place" and she immediately says "okay" and we head over to my place.

Even though her car is there I suggest that we ride together and when we get to my place she asks if she should just leave her cell phone in the car "yes, that's fine"

We get up to my place and I give her the quick tour and we check out my view for a minute. We come back inside and I pull her into me and she gives me the lamest token resistance in the world:

Her: What are you doing I have a BF (while smiling)
Me: Pfft, I won't tell anyone
Her: Uh...hmm

I kiss her and she pulls away briefly and then I kiss her again and she pulls away. Feeling I needed to say something I tell her "It's ok, I'm not going to push you into anything" She tells me (and it was all I could do to not laugh) "I'm thinking..." I took that as my green light and proceeded to go caveman on her, pulling her hair, rubbing her breasts over her sweatshirt and rubbing her pussy over her jeans. Here's the dialog as accurate as I can remember:

Her: This is is sooooo bad
Me: Mmm hmm (kissing, rubbing, sucking on her breast)
Her: I shouldn't be doing this, I have a BF
Me: I won't tell anyone
Her: You better not tell anyone
Me: Uhh uhhh (hand down her jeans fingering her)
Her: Shit, don't get me horny....uhhhh

From there I pulled her jeans down and bent her over my bed and ate her pussy from behind. I pulled the condom from my pants pocket, slipped it on and proceeded to pound her silly from behind.

After the first round she told me that she hadn't had sex in a month because "they just can't find the time"

Two more rounds and lots of squirting and flooding later I took her back to her car. I have to be honest, a little part of me feels sorry for her beta BF and how little resistance she gave me. It's another solid red pill lesson for me and how easily a woman will cheat if it means excitement and someone who will completely dominate them sexually.

Nice day bang report haha. Its weird, I think about my ex girls, when I read things like this. I used to think girls in relationships were so innocent lol.

(04-20-2015 11:38 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 11:17 AM)Soaked Wrote:  Do I read write that you're 40 something but say you're 30 something and banged 3 girls aged ~20 that were all basically hotties in that 24 hour period?

That's fucking amazing. I hope I'm having that much fun when I'm 40 something.

^ that's right. I'm in 40s but I do "look" anywhere from 33-38ish. I'm in good shape, boyish haircut and smooth face ( slight wrinkling starting) So, I think my genetics help a bit but it's also very dependent on how you take care of yourself, workout and dress.
These girls aren't even questioning my age. bottom line - attraction is attraction.
I obviously owe a lot to the Forum here and the manosphere in general. Learning things like the nature of women, logistics, correct style, how to talk to girls on dates. But, I won't say I owe it "all" to the manosphere as I did a lot of work myself: approaching, getting rejected and different dating strategies myself until I started to find things that worked. I'm believing more and more in the Heartiste SMV graphs as I get older.

I second this. I'm also early 40s, live in Dublin area, am in a LTR but keep my options open generally.
I've had more success with 20something chicks in recent years than any other age group.
I'm not out laying pipe on the regular but any time I've dipped into the pool, my best responses by some distance have been from early to mid twenties chicks.
The other day I was in the city, dressed sharp, good haircut, strong eye contact with any attractive women I came across.
From the moment I stepped out the door, I strode confidently and kept a social, friendly demeanour going, saying hi to strangers as I passed them, kept me in social mood.
Hopped on a bus, struck up some banter with some attractive young Spaniards, one of whom was a bona-fide 8, 23/24, major IOIs from her, stupidly did not ask for a number.
Continued in the same vein while in the city, interacted with as many people as possible, the positive responses were striking.
Several leads that I could have and on reflection should have pushed further, especially with the Spanish girl.
Like robreke, I could pass for mid 30s easily, it helps but so long as you don't look like your average 40s Irish guy, you'll stand out in a good way.

(04-22-2015 09:38 AM)amity Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 11:38 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 11:17 AM)Soaked Wrote:  Do I read write that you're 40 something but say you're 30 something and banged 3 girls aged ~20 that were all basically hotties in that 24 hour period?

That's fucking amazing. I hope I'm having that much fun when I'm 40 something.

^ that's right. I'm in 40s but I do "look" anywhere from 33-38ish. I'm in good shape, boyish haircut and smooth face ( slight wrinkling starting) So, I think my genetics help a bit but it's also very dependent on how you take care of yourself, workout and dress.
These girls aren't even questioning my age. bottom line - attraction is attraction.
I obviously owe a lot to the Forum here and the manosphere in general. Learning things like the nature of women, logistics, correct style, how to talk to girls on dates. But, I won't say I owe it "all" to the manosphere as I did a lot of work myself: approaching, getting rejected and different dating strategies myself until I started to find things that worked. I'm believing more and more in the Heartiste SMV graphs as I get older.

I second this. I'm also early 40s, live in Dublin area, am in a LTR but keep my options open generally.
I've had more success with 20something chicks in recent years than any other age group.
I'm not out laying pipe on the regular but any time I've dipped into the pool, my best responses by some distance have been from early to mid twenties chicks.
The other day I was in the city, dressed sharp, good haircut, strong eye contact with any attractive women I came across.
From the moment I stepped out the door, I strode confidently and kept a social, friendly demeanour going, saying hi to strangers as I passed them, kept me in social mood.
Hopped on a bus, struck up some banter with some attractive young Spaniards, one of whom was a bona-fide 8, 23/24, major IOIs from her, stupidly did not ask for a number.
Continued in the same vein while in the city, interacted with as many people as possible, the positive responses were striking.
Several leads that I could have and on reflection should have pushed further, especially with the Spanish girl.
Like robreke, I could pass for mid 30s easily, it helps but so long as you don't look like your average 40s Irish guy, you'll stand out in a good way.

I third this. I'm 43 and women always guess I'm somewhere in my early 30's. I keep myself in good shape and working to get more muscle. Just yesterday the stars aligned and I banged a 19yo and 24yo within four hours of each other. Definitely not the norm but there's plenty of young ass out there to be had for us older guys if we play our cards right.

(04-22-2015 10:05 AM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  

(04-22-2015 09:38 AM)amity Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 11:38 AM)robreke Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 11:17 AM)Soaked Wrote:  Do I read write that you're 40 something but say you're 30 something and banged 3 girls aged ~20 that were all basically hotties in that 24 hour period?

That's fucking amazing. I hope I'm having that much fun when I'm 40 something.

^ that's right. I'm in 40s but I do "look" anywhere from 33-38ish. I'm in good shape, boyish haircut and smooth face ( slight wrinkling starting) So, I think my genetics help a bit but it's also very dependent on how you take care of yourself, workout and dress.
These girls aren't even questioning my age. bottom line - attraction is attraction.
I obviously owe a lot to the Forum here and the manosphere in general. Learning things like the nature of women, logistics, correct style, how to talk to girls on dates. But, I won't say I owe it "all" to the manosphere as I did a lot of work myself: approaching, getting rejected and different dating strategies myself until I started to find things that worked. I'm believing more and more in the Heartiste SMV graphs as I get older.

I second this. I'm also early 40s, live in Dublin area, am in a LTR but keep my options open generally.
I've had more success with 20something chicks in recent years than any other age group.
I'm not out laying pipe on the regular but any time I've dipped into the pool, my best responses by some distance have been from early to mid twenties chicks.
The other day I was in the city, dressed sharp, good haircut, strong eye contact with any attractive women I came across.
From the moment I stepped out the door, I strode confidently and kept a social, friendly demeanour going, saying hi to strangers as I passed them, kept me in social mood.
Hopped on a bus, struck up some banter with some attractive young Spaniards, one of whom was a bona-fide 8, 23/24, major IOIs from her, stupidly did not ask for a number.
Continued in the same vein while in the city, interacted with as many people as possible, the positive responses were striking.
Several leads that I could have and on reflection should have pushed further, especially with the Spanish girl.
Like robreke, I could pass for mid 30s easily, it helps but so long as you don't look like your average 40s Irish guy, you'll stand out in a good way.

I third this. I'm 43 and women always guess I'm somewhere in my early 30's. I keep myself in good shape and working to get more muscle. Just yesterday the stars aligned and I banged a 19yo and 24yo within four hours of each other. Definitely not the norm but there's plenty of young ass out there to be had for us older guys if we play our cards right.

Props Sir! That is impressive! My results are not as good as yours but I fully agree that us slightly older men can achieve just as good if not better results than the younger cats when we put our minds to it.
Just to add to my own tale from last weekend, I had given my woman a good seeing to in the previous 24 hours, and subconsciously I think the women can sense that, and are more attracted to a man that's already getting some, than a dude who hasn't seen flange in a while.

What's the earliest in the interaction have you guys brought up your intent to bang them (online and offline) and how many did you bang that way??

Joined FetLife for the lulz the other day.

Traded messages and numbers with a woman 13 years my senior. She has a cub fetish. Attractive for her age.

Went out with her tonight and just wasn't feeling it. She was ALL over me.

Part of it probably had to do with that I'm 84 days sober and we were hanging out at a bar. Other part was that I saw all the younger trim walking around.

Oh well.

Have to start doing some casual on campus day game. The party scene is starting to bore me, and I'm kind of tired of dealing with the thirsty male competition.

On another note, I'm deemed "misogynistic" by one of my fraternity brothers. This guy is fat, lazy, and doesn't even try to talk to women. His calling me "misogynistic" is equivalent to my calling a nuclear physicist an idiot. It's kind of sad how jealous other men get. I try to avoid people like that, in general.

(04-23-2015 10:21 PM)RougeNoir Wrote:  What's the earliest in the interaction have you guys brought up your intent to bang them (online and offline) and how many did you bang that way??

Online communication or texts are strictly logistical for me. Just for polite getting to know each other with a few mundane questions, then for setting up a definite date.

The seduction and sexual innuendo begins in face, in person. Never online or through text unless she brings it up there. There's too much room for misinterpretation through text.

Always in person on the date...

Example: I was on a date earlier this week and at the table her foot accidentally bumped into my leg under the table. She said "oh sorry" I said "that's okay, I don't mind you touching my leg like that" delivered with slight smirk. Setting the tone.

Kino here and there. Maybe a few non douchy fist bumps or high fives. (one or two tops) Then try to bounce to your place. That's when she probably knows what's going down ( at the very least a makeout she's thinking )

Read Tuthmosis' recipe for a first date bang.

I've never been a big club guy but after a minor epiphany tonight I'm thinking that's what I should focus on to round out my game. Went out earlier today for the first ttime in a long while, did some half-assed daygame/elderly chat, drove to a different city and went to the bars, then walked to a nearby club.

Randomly met up with a buddy from way back who recently got out of several years in the pen on drug charges, and boy does he have some game. It occured to me while gaming with him that my approach all along has been far too analytical. My whole life has been calculating the "what ifs". What if this job goes wrong and the company folds? What if the financing on this house doesn't come through? What if I approach and this girl tells me to fuck off? What if, what if, what if.

The "naturals" really just don't give a fuck, ie dont think about the consequences. Probably why he went to jail, but the great thing about approaches/game is there are no lasting consequences. I grind up on some sloot, she backturns, I move onto the next. I just need to find that spot in my mind that comes naturally to some people, and tune out the "what ifs". Sounds like a good summer project.

^Was your buddy always a natural or did he acquire that mindset in jail? Maybe we should all go to prison to get game ingrained.

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The flake fest continues.

Yesterday night's girl flaked, girl I scheduled with tonight flaked. I don't even bother replying anymore.

Good thing is, having all these flakes, I find myself caring less and less for each one. I expect girls to flake now.

And it's easy to not give a shit right now. Got offered a job in my field starting in June, straight out of college. Feels damn good!

And my buddies up here are always up to something. I used to be a shut-in on the weekends, now it's the reverse; always looking for the tiniest excuse to get out of the den.

I got a text yesterday afternoon from a married fuckbuddy I see maybe every couple of months:

"I'm eating ice cream at an ice cream shop but I'd rather have your cock in my mouth."

I happened to be at home and I told her to be at my door in 30 minutes, come in, take off her clothes and not say a word. She did as instructed; I whipped it out and she gave a display of her impressive deepthroating skills and then I bent her over my couch and pounded her. When I was done I told her to put on her clothes and get out. She left grinning; we are actually friendly and flirt pretty often by text and I know she gets off by being treated like a little slut.

How bad would this situation annoy you, if at all?

Last night I was at a nice hotel in Miami with my girl. At one point, she said that she would never again stay a single night in hotel like the Hotel 6, because she knows her value.

I found this attitude very entitled and told her I would never want to marry a girl who thought like that.