Post: #5226

(04-15-2015 04:09 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  I feel like I've leveled-up the past week or so.

You really need to write a short e-book PDF with your best of Tinder conversation, text conversation, and some quotes of your common phone call conversations to get girls so comfortable to come straight to your place.

I'd be the first the buy.

Post: #5227

Interesting. Had 2 decent 7-7.5s seemingly ready to go out as soon as our schedules matched. Both would be newly met. Both were texting every other day or so.. One every day, keeping standard text game rules in mind. Got some very sexy pics from one who flakes last Saturday, she actually did go to hospital end of lat week with a kidney infection and proved it with pics, I didn't ask for proof. She was the most sexualized one, with some great texts in both directions. Had her basically saying she'd be DTF on first meet up. Poof. Ghosted me. Haven't had that happen in a long ass time. Chalk it up to other swinging dicks grabbing their attention and simply getting beat out I suppose.

An old plate hits me up and fills the Saturday void, celebrated her birthday in style. Good times in a good public hot spot for free advertising. We'll see if either attempts to reconnect by the weekend, but I doubt it. Both left with the impression I'd hear from them first, not vice versa. Need to fill my cache again, it's getting thin.

Post: #5228

(04-15-2015 07:10 PM)Travesty444 Wrote:  

(04-15-2015 04:09 PM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  I feel like I've leveled-up the past week or so.

You really need to write a short e-book PDF with your best of Tinder conversation, text conversation, and some quotes of your common phone call conversations to get girls so comfortable to come straight to your place.

I'd be the first the buy.

Man, maybe you're right, I could definitely be interested in writing my magnum opus on zero date bangs and online game.

It's funny because I'm so close to it now, that it just feels like second nature, and I don't even know how I'm doing it half the time.

It's at the point now where if a girl doesn't want to come directly over to my place, then I just assume she isn't very interested in me, and I delete her number without thinking twice.

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I actually tried to go on a couple "normal" dates recently, and they went terribly, because I was bored out of my mind.

If two people are attracted to each other, and are willing to drink alcohol in each others company, why in the hell would they spend 2 hours at a bar where they can't hook up? It seems so illogical to me now.

Humans are designed to fuck each other, not sit at a table and talk about banal topics.

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It's kind of funny because even though I am zero date banging all these girls, I have actually established some cool relationships with a bunch of them.

I am running things in reverse. If a girl agrees to come over for the first date, and she's down to bang, then I treat her really well for the second date.

Last night I hung out with this girl who I zero date banged last week. For our second date, we both dressed up and I took her out to some swanky expensive bars in town. I dropped a bunch of cash on drinks, but you know what? I enjoyed it. And she earned it.

By coming directly over and banging me for the first date, she proved that she was attracted to me, and that she wasn't interested in playing games, using me for attention, or shit testing me.

That is the kind of girl I can get down with, and like to spend time with.

The rest of them can fuck off!

Post: #5229

God I wish I had my own place so I could do this.^^

Post: #5230

Interesting date with a closet feminist:

OKC > Few day exchange> number close

We're both horrible texters, took a week to finally meet

She lived in a capital city on the east coast, worked with government.

She's recently moved back into town again.

She was a cute 7 skinny, nice eyes, clear face, WEIRD personality, with what I thought was a bad lipstick job.

Met at one of my regular venues, show up late, she's waiting outside, she's cute in person.

We chat a bit over travels, music, she doesn't like sports, we connect on experiences with a certain venue.

1 drink then I bounce us to another bar, she drives with me, I know both bartenders, she's intrigued by it.

She has her phone on the table we talk about our pet peeve of texting on dates, recall bad dates, and I drop red pill info about men not having their balls, openers, how dating is, how it is overseas.

She's feeding into it, we've got a pretty good connection going.

I joke about how her lifeline hasn't called giving her the escape route out of the date then drop a line letting her know this date would've ended sooner but she isn't creepy.

I called her out on being super nervous possible social anxiety.

She admits she's a bit shy and she doesn't have idle hands. We keep the conversation going - start dropping bait about cool things I have and movies.

She talks about this youtube video that was funny, I pounce on it suggesting she shows me it at my house, she agrees.

Close the tab out, drive us home, show her my room, she sits on the edge of my bed with one leg planted on the floor.

We watch this weird youtube clip for a bit, I'm laughing at some of it, I tell her to stop being shy and come lay with me.

She doesn't move at all, she's like a statue. - bad sign.

I leave it alone, I kind of roll over her get close to her face to gauge her reaction....she's stonewalling me. -bad sign.

She offers to show me another youtube video - good sign.

We watch the entire thing, we start talking about life again, and I ask her what's her deal why she's still super shy and nervous.

She said "well...you invited me into your house...it's...kind of a vulnerable position and..."

I say, "No I get it, you could kill me" -smirk-

I say, "You know aren't that bad, you're weird in a good way, but that's the only compliment you're getting"

It gets interesting

She says "oh are you negging me"

I don't react, but say "huh ? What's a neg?"

Girl "oh it's things these angry little guys do to insult a girl and force them to validate themselves to guys, it's something pick up artists do"

Kaotic "what no way ? I've NEVER heard of that, what's even a pick up artist?"

girl "oh it's these guys who are MRA's and hate women, and are angry women are getting more rights then men"

kaotic "weird, I thought we were all equal already"

-girl pauses-

kaotic "where do you even get these terms from are you reading some BLOGS or something ?"

girl "yeah I read JEZEBEL and some other blogs also"



kaotic "you know always thought bloggers were attention whores who want revenue, likes, and pay per clicks, that's why they write so crazy"

girl -laughs- "yeah well yeah those mra guys are weird"

kaotic "well it's a good thing I'm just a funny asshole isn't it ?"

her phone rings - it's her sister.


Her eyes go wide and looks at me and shakes her head

"You're seriously not going to believe this, but my sister wants me to take her to urgent care, she doesn't feel good at all"

I look at her, laugh, and shake my head, "there's no way I believe what you're saying right now after all we talked about"

"No i'm being serious, I'm sorry, I seriously think I just jinxed myself"

"Yeah sounds like an easy enough excuse"

I drive her, as we're driving she's called again by her sister, I drop her off.

I say "You know I'm not sure you're believable or not"
"I'll send you selfie"
"Alright I'll hold you to that"

She reaches over to me and hugs me....I get an up close look at her bad lipstick job......it wasn't.

She had a fucking COLD SORE on her fucking lips.

Sure as hell she sent me a pic with her sister in the hospital....whose an 8 of all things. This would happen to me.


Overall the conversation turned sour fast (in my head) after the neg comment, the game gods made her sister sick, easy for me to eject.


Honestly, wouldn't mind game fucking this one. But of course lord knows the shit she'd pull.

Post: #5231

(04-16-2015 11:03 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Interesting date with a closet feminist:

OKC > Few day exchange> number close

We're both horrible texters, took a week to finally meet

She lived in a capital city on the east coast, worked with government.

She's recently moved back into town again.

She was a cute 7 skinny, nice eyes, clear face, WEIRD personality, with what I thought was a bad lipstick job.

Met at one of my regular venues, show up late, she's waiting outside, she's cute in person.

We chat a bit over travels, music, she doesn't like sports, we connect on experiences with a certain venue.

1 drink then I bounce us to another bar, she drives with me, I know both bartenders, she's intrigued by it.

She has her phone on the table we talk about our pet peeve of texting on dates, recall bad dates, and I drop red pill info about men not having their balls, openers, how dating is, how it is overseas.

She's feeding into it, we've got a pretty good connection going.

I joke about how her lifeline hasn't called giving her the escape route out of the date then drop a line letting her know this date would've ended sooner but she isn't creepy.

I called her out on being super nervous possible social anxiety.

She admits she's a bit shy and she doesn't have idle hands. We keep the conversation going - start dropping bait about cool things I have and movies.

She talks about this youtube video that was funny, I pounce on it suggesting she shows me it at my house, she agrees.

Close the tab out, drive us home, show her my room, she sits on the edge of my bed with one leg planted on the floor.

We watch this weird youtube clip for a bit, I'm laughing at some of it, I tell her to stop being shy and come lay with me.

She doesn't move at all, she's like a statue. - bad sign.

I leave it alone, I kind of roll over her get close to her face to gauge her reaction....she's stonewalling me. -bad sign.

She offers to show me another youtube video - good sign.

We watch the entire thing, we start talking about life again, and I ask her what's her deal why she's still super shy and nervous.

She said "well...you invited me into your house...it's...kind of a vulnerable position and..."

I say, "No I get it, you could kill me" -smirk-

I say, "You know aren't that bad, you're weird in a good way, but that's the only compliment you're getting"

It gets interesting

She says "oh are you negging me"

I don't react, but say "huh ? What's a neg?"

Girl "oh it's things these angry little guys do to insult a girl and force them to validate themselves to guys, it's something pick up artists do"

Kaotic "what no way ? I've NEVER heard of that, what's even a pick up artist?"

girl "oh it's these guys who are MRA's and hate women, and are angry women are getting more rights then men"

kaotic "weird, I thought we were all equal already"

-girl pauses-

kaotic "where do you even get these terms from are you reading some BLOGS or something ?"

girl "yeah I read JEZEBEL and some other blogs also"



kaotic "you know always thought bloggers were attention whores who want revenue, likes, and pay per clicks, that's why they write so crazy"

girl -laughs- "yeah well yeah those mra guys are weird"

kaotic "well it's a good thing I'm just a funny asshole isn't it ?"

her phone rings - it's her sister.


Her eyes go wide and looks at me and shakes her head

"You're seriously not going to believe this, but my sister wants me to take her to urgent care, she doesn't feel good at all"

I look at her, laugh, and shake my head, "there's no way I believe what you're saying right now after all we talked about"

"No i'm being serious, I'm sorry, I seriously think I just jinxed myself"

"Yeah sounds like an easy enough excuse"

I drive her, as we're driving she's called again by her sister, I drop her off.

I say "You know I'm not sure you're believable or not"
"I'll send you selfie"
"Alright I'll hold you to that"

She reaches over to me and hugs me....I get an up close look at her bad lipstick job......it wasn't.

She had a fucking COLD SORE on her fucking lips.

Sure as hell she sent me a pic with her sister in the hospital....whose an 8 of all things. This would happen to me.


Overall the conversation turned sour fast (in my head) after the neg comment, the game gods made her sister sick, easy for me to eject.


Honestly, wouldn't mind game fucking this one. But of course lord knows the shit she'd pull.

This post flowed like a good novel! +1

Post: #5232

^ Blurred your sentiment of deleting a girls number straight up at the first sign of non-conpliance is the road I have started going down harping to newbies about having the confidence and self respect to go after girls that really want you. This thought process projects itself and girls are attracted to it.

Much like jariel's don't date loser women and time waster posts along with LINUX's Colombia thread.

If you really believe in yourself as an attractive guy work on going from A to B with no bullshit.

I have had that mentality for awhile I really need to work on the comfort between getting a # and get her over. I've done zero date bang only twice before you wrote that post.

Looking back one of them we had some fun texting then I called and she came over. Need to get back to that!

Post: #5233

(04-12-2015 08:49 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Do you guys call cabs for ONSs? The girl I pulled had close to a 45 min walk home in high heels and 2 degrees C. Feel like a bit of an ass right now.

Most girls call their own Uber from their phone. This is a fairly safe city, but it is really unheard of for a girl to walk home alone at night unless it's a 5 minute walk.

Last summer I dated someone who would call a car to pick her up at night when she lived no more than a 10 minute walk.

Post: #5234

(04-16-2015 11:03 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Interesting date with a closet feminist:

Props to you for being able to keep a poker face when she started using game lingo. Not sure I'd be able to do that. If it ever happens I'll go your route, raise my eyebrows to orbital levels and go "Really? Tell me more!"

(04-16-2015 02:53 PM)Stun Wrote:  

(04-12-2015 08:49 AM)DarianFrey Wrote:  Do you guys call cabs for ONSs? The girl I pulled had close to a 45 min walk home in high heels and 2 degrees C. Feel like a bit of an ass right now.

Most girls call their own Uber from their phone. This is a fairly safe city, but it is really unheard of for a girl to walk home alone at night unless it's a 5 minute walk.

Last summer I dated someone who would call a car to pick her up at night when she lived no more than a 10 minute walk.

Alright, yeah my city is pretty safe too. But she really did walk, even pulled out her phone to use GPS.

Guess I care too much; she wanna walk she gonna walk

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Got plans with a girl tomorrow evening, she's coming over for drinks. 7 in her Tinder pics, only showing face though. Also believe the flake chance is high based on small details in our texting, starting to get a feel for dat wishywashiness.

And hitting the club again on Saturday with my natural friend. Having him around assures a good time. Looking forward to the weekend!

Post: #5235

(04-16-2015 03:27 PM)DarianFrey Wrote:  

(04-16-2015 11:03 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Interesting date with a closet feminist:

Props to you for being able to keep a poker face when she started using game lingo. Not sure I'd be able to do that. If it ever happens I'll go your route, raise my eyebrows to orbital levels and go "Really? Tell me more!"

Exactly, I was doing it for my own amusement, and subtly shutting down her view points on equality, just a tiger toying with a mouse.

I also had another interesting date with a possible virgin, man she kissed horribly.

Post: #5236

I've been banging this girl for a few weeks now who told me she has a "boyfriend situation" but she still sleeps in his guest bedroom.

Anyway today I get a random message on my Facebook from some random account with no information on it and it shows a screenshot of this girls facebook profile that I've been seeing where it says "in a relationship" and has an attatched message that says "To teddykgb do the right thing"

So she must have told someone she was seeing another guy and told them my name and they made up a special facebook with no info just to send me that message.

Wondering what I should do?

Post: #5237

The irony of your date Kaotic haha. Very entertaining. Did she try to cover the cold sore in lip stick?

Post: #5238

Had a Tinder meetup tonight and got royally SIF'd. All of the woman's Tinder photos looked really good and I never detected that she was covering up anything. She just got really fat after the fact. Luckily for me I met her at the shopping center across the street from my apartment and we just sat on a bench and talked for a short while so I didn't spend a dime on her.

Out of curiosity how do you guys who run the zero date bang model handle a situation where a SIF shows up at your doorstep? Do you turn her away on the spot or give her a sympathy bang?

Post: #5239

(04-16-2015 09:46 PM)Teddykgb Wrote:  I've been banging this girl for a few weeks now who told me she has a "boyfriend situation" but she still sleeps in his guest bedroom.

Anyway today I get a random message on my Facebook from some random account with no information on it and it shows a screenshot of this girls facebook profile that I've been seeing where it says "in a relationship" and has an attatched message that says "To teddykgb do the right thing"

So she must have told someone she was seeing another guy and told them my name and they made up a special facebook with no info just to send me that message.

Wondering what I should do?

Fuck her harder next time. That's the right thing to do.

Post: #5240

(04-16-2015 09:46 PM)Teddykgb Wrote:  I've been banging this girl for a few weeks now who told me she has a "boyfriend situation" but she still sleeps in his guest bedroom.

Anyway today I get a random message on my Facebook from some random account with no information on it and it shows a screenshot of this girls facebook profile that I've been seeing where it says "in a relationship" and has an attatched message that says "To teddykgb do the right thing"

So she must have told someone she was seeing another guy and told them my name and they made up a special facebook with no info just to send me that message.

Wondering what I should do?

Take a photo of you banging her and post it back to them with the caption "I am".

Post: #5241

(04-16-2015 11:17 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  ^ Blurred your sentiment of deleting a girls number straight up at the first sign of compliance is the road I have started going down harping to newbies about having the confidence and self respect to go after girls that really want you.

If you really believe in yourself as an attractive guy work on going from A to B with no bullshit.

Yeah man I am starting to lose patience with girls that play any sort of games, and surprisingly it has had positive results.

Most of the girls I have banged this year, haven't shit tested me or tried to make me jump through any hoops. In my own head, I am thinking "this is your chance, babe, I hope you don't blow it."

Of course, I believe that a man still has to play the game, and still has to chase the girl a bit (because they love this) but ONLY if it's being reciprocated via compliance or flirting.

I am not about to start chasing girls that aren't sure if they want to fuck me or not. There are plenty that do, so why not go for them instead.

I do believe that if a girl wants to fuck, she is going to let you lure her in without a fight. But you still have to get her to take the bait!

(04-16-2015 11:17 AM)Travesty444 Wrote:  I have had that mentality for awhile I really need to work on the comfort between getting a # and get her over.

Don't overthink it. It's all in the subtext. It doesn't matter what you say to her, so long as you are talking about something.

Today I texted a bunch of different girls about things like: how much should I water my new house plant, if leather jackets are still cool, exotic popcorn flavors, and why she looks like a flight attendant.

Super banal and nonsensical shit. I'm not trying to build comfort by "getting to know them" or anything, I'm just talking about regular things and letting them subconsciously realize that I'm a normal guy and not a serial killer.

---

Then, once we have a few conversation threads, I tell her:

"Let's have a drink later, I'll grab supplies on the way home, does 8pm or 9pm work better for you?

or

"Let's make drinks Thursday after work. I'll make you my special XYZ drink, but only if you promise not to steal anything from my kitchen."

Shit like that.

If she says no, then I'll find another girl who is at least interested in the possibility of having sex with me.

If she says "I'd rather meet in public" then I either go cold on her, or I go for the hail mary and say "well I'm not comfortable making out with you in public." It works about 10% of the time, and it makes me lose attraction for them.

Post: #5242

I was just bitching a few post earlier about my dry spell and other non-sense stuff, but last night I broke my dry spell with an explosive fuck all fucking night long with a girl in Aikido. Martial art girls are fucking insane in bed ! Fucked her for 4h straight, and she just like messing around with me and didnt want to get off me or let me sleep at all. I had to do some crazy BJJ-like stuff. Best and craziest lay in my life ! Apparently this girl has been through shit more than some hood nigga and her stories are un-fucking-believable (the bits I could remember anyway cuz I was so fucking tired)

There was so much shit going on with this +1, I dont even know where to begin. Will post in the +notch thread later.

Like Roosh and Gio said, all you need to do is just keep going. Because the best thing happens when you least expect it to, often time right around the time you decide to quit

Post: #5243

(04-16-2015 09:46 PM)Teddykgb Wrote:  I've been banging this girl for a few weeks now who told me she has a "boyfriend situation" but she still sleeps in his guest bedroom.

Anyway today I get a random message on my Facebook from some random account with no information on it and it shows a screenshot of this girls facebook profile that I've been seeing where it says "in a relationship" and has an attatched message that says "To teddykgb do the right thing"

So she must have told someone she was seeing another guy and told them my name and they made up a special facebook with no info just to send me that message.

Wondering what I should do?

I disagree with other posters. Distance yourself.

From my experience of banging lots of girls with boyfriends, it is built upon implicit trust and furthermore, the power dynamic that she has more to lose.

If she has a big mouth and cannot be trusted, you don't need that drama and shit in her life.

You're banging because you find each other hot/accessible and it is an escape from every day life (moreso her than you).

If you believe that she told someone, the trust is already gone and it is just gonna get worse.

You can replace her with someone else so forget about this shit.

Less drama more carefree sex.

Post: #5244

(04-16-2015 09:46 PM)Teddykgb Wrote:  I've been banging this girl for a few weeks now who told me she has a "boyfriend situation" but she still sleeps in his guest bedroom.

Anyway today I get a random message on my Facebook from some random account with no information on it and it shows a screenshot of this girls facebook profile that I've been seeing where it says "in a relationship" and has an attatched message that says "To teddykgb do the right thing"

So she must have told someone she was seeing another guy and told them my name and they made up a special facebook with no info just to send me that message.

Wondering what I should do?

Follow your gut. If your gut says Bang, then bang. If your gut says cut bait and run, you cut bait and run.

Post: #5245

Is this common for you cats that girls become extremely playful post-sex ?

Maybe its just my playful frame both on and off the bed, but its been many times in a row now, doesnt matter how shy, bitchy and reserved a girl is before sex, after sex if you fuck them good they would be extremely playful and naughty in a child-like way. So they would try to steal my blanket and pillow and force me to go chase them, try to climb on top of me and pin me down BJJ-style, or just messing around with your ear/face/whatever and just dont let you sleep, tickle you, etc.

I find this quite endearing to be honest, make them look and feel really feminine (though sometimes could be annoying especially if you just bang her silly). Im still surprised how girl can change like that after sex though. I usually take it as a good sign that the girl feel comfortable around you.

This happens to you guys a lot ? Do you like messing around with girl post-coitus ?

Post: #5246

(04-16-2015 11:37 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  Out of curiosity how do you guys who run the zero date bang model handle a situation where a SIF shows up at your doorstep? Do you turn her away on the spot or give her a sympathy bang?

Would like to hear suggestions here as well.

I've had this happen once for a planned ZDB and I met the girl like 1 minute from my place. Didn't have the balls to just brutally ditch her, and to be honest she wasn't fat, but she had too many pounds for me to be attracted.

We had some wine at my place, then I got up and told her that I had to get up early as a friend was coming over to study. Hugged her goodbye and that was that. Still, one hour wasted!

Do you guys go "You look nothing like your pictures. I'm sorry but I'm not feeling it"?

First dates at venues are better in this respect since you can "go to the bathroom".

Post: #5247

(04-17-2015 01:59 AM)BlurredSevens Wrote:  Don't overthink it. It's all in the subtext. It doesn't matter what you say to her, so long as you are talking about something.

Today I texted a bunch of different girls about things like: how much should I water my new house plant, if leather jackets are still cool, exotic popcorn flavors, and why she looks like a flight attendant.

Super banal and nonsensical shit. I'm not trying to build comfort by "getting to know them" or anything, I'm just talking about regular things and letting them subconsciously realize that I'm a normal guy and not a serial killer.

---

Then, once we have a few conversation threads, I tell her:

"Let's have a drink later, I'll grab supplies on the way home, does 8pm or 9pm work better for you?

or

"Let's make drinks Thursday after work. I'll make you my special XYZ drink, but only if you promise not to steal anything from my kitchen."

Shit like that.

If she says no, then I'll find another girl who is at least interested in the possibility of having sex with me.

If she says "I'd rather meet in public" then I either go cold on her, or I go for the hail mary and say "well I'm not comfortable making out with you in public." It works about 10% of the time, and it makes me lose attraction for them.

See, I'm not sure why maintaining a convo with these girls is somewhat looked down upon.

I used to use text for only logistics (I still do) HOWEVER, I also realize I gotta build some comfort.

You say you don't have patience if they don't want to come over and I get it that's fine.

I don't mind grabbing a $3 coffee or a pair of drinks, less than a mile away from my house so I don't scare the cat. (Especially if they're from online)

Texting beyond logistics plus maintenance text has their place in game.

Post: #5248

(04-16-2015 10:14 PM)~wrIghter~ Wrote:  The irony of your date Kaotic haha. Very entertaining. Did she try to cover the cold sore in lip stick?

I think I blended in, I thought it was a smudge.

(04-16-2015 11:37 PM)OregonToSoCal Wrote:  Had a Tinder meetup tonight and got royally SIF'd. All of the woman's Tinder photos looked really good and I never detected that she was covering up anything. She just got really fat after the fact. Luckily for me I met her at the shopping center across the street from my apartment and we just sat on a bench and talked for a short while so I didn't spend a dime on her.

Out of curiosity how do you guys who run the zero date bang model handle a situation where a SIF shows up at your doorstep? Do you turn her away on the spot or give her a sympathy bang?

Did you have her send you a selfie ? "Send me a selfe flipping me off or X"

Or "how do I know you aren't some 6'4 300lb dude named bubba ?"

If she sends you a face selfie, counter with "well you're real, but I still don't know if you're 6'4 or 300 lbs"

Have her send you a body selfie, or check her IG, or have her send you a snap.

Lots of ways to combat this.

Post: #5249

(04-17-2015 10:55 AM)kaotic Wrote:  See, I'm not sure why maintaining a convo with these girls is somewhat looked down upon.

I used to use text for only logistics (I still do) HOWEVER, I also realize I gotta build some comfort.

You say you don't have patience if they don't want to come over and I get it that's fine.

I don't mind grabbing a $3 coffee or a pair of drinks, less than a mile away from my house so I don't scare the cat. (Especially if they're from online)

Texting beyond logistics plus maintenance text has their place in game.

I think we are actually on the same page here regarding texting. I have tons of conversations with girls via text. I think that it's a good thing.

The difference is that I'm not "trying to build comfort" which is a trap I think some guys get stuck in.

They think you have to overcome some barrier, and once "comfort" is achieved, then they can ask her on a date or invite her over.

I think that is the wrong way to look at it. I text girls so I can calibrate to their vibe. Sometimes girls are high energy and I'll seal the deal asap.

Other times it's a SLOW burn, and it takes 2 weeks of texting before I feel like I have calibrated to her vibe, and it's at that point I pull the trigger and go for the meetup.

If I try for the meetup prematurely, then it doesn't go well.

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I am a huge believer in texting in the game, beyond just logistics. I think it just needs to be done in the right way.

The mistake guys make here is failing to realize that girls don't need "comfort" to bang a guy. Comfort = boring.

Girls just need to feel attraction. Girls are often blinded by the feeling of attraction, because they are emotionally driven, and they'll do things way out of their norm if their emotions tell them to do it.

Like, for instance, going to a strangers house.

I'll be the first to admit how surprised I am that girls come over to my place so readily.

Post: #5250

(04-17-2015 11:06 AM)kaotic Wrote:  Did you have her send you a selfie ? "Send me a selfe flipping me off or X"

Or "how do I know you aren't some 6'4 300lb dude named bubba ?"

If she sends you a face selfie, counter with "well you're real, but I still don't know if you're 6'4 or 300 lbs"

Have her send you a body selfie, or check her IG, or have her send you a snap.

Lots of ways to combat this.

Yeah, I didn't think to do that...that one's on me, won't happen again. Compared to the hundreds of traditional "let's meet at starbucks or this bar" kind of dates I'm such a newb at the zero date bang.