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Camp For Sale (Built in 2013) 50 km north east of Peace River

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-30...est-bidder

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Hows everyone doing here? Anyone want to do a meet up later on this evening?
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(07-30-2016 11:16 PM)Linotype Wrote:  Camp For Sale (Built in 2013) 50 km north east of Peace River

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-30...est-bidder

https://youtu.be/dboxc5P9Dd8

That's the Shell Carmen Creek camp, they kiboshed the entire project which is pretty crazy, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/sh...-1.3292093

That article almost made me puke:
Quote:Funded by environmental and progressive organizations like the Rockefeller Brothers Fund and the Tides Foundation, OCI concurs with studies citing oilsands expansion as a major climate liability.

One that appeared in the journal Nature concluded that to avoid a disastrous temperature increase of 2 degrees C, the vast majority of proven oil reserves need to remain untapped — including 85 per cent of the oilsands.

Funded by the Rockerfeller Brothers Fund and the Tides Foundation, two fucking American organizations, fucking cocksuckers, I'd like to see them go protest the environmental degradation in the Nigeria Delta or the human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia, pussies! Too bad the fucking CBC (Communist Broadcasting Corporation) didn't interview any of the laid of workers (including friends and family of mine and at least one RVF member) or people from the surrounding native reserves who will be negatively impacted by the layoffs.

I worked at a pipeline pump station operated by Transcanada pipeline last year that was just down the road. This project employed a bunch of Native locals as I'm sure the Carmen Creek Shell job did as well, its a shame when these projects are cancelled because the locals really do lose out.

Its so fucking hypocritical though, the same enviro-weenies who protest oil sands development are the same people who will march with the Natives in protest of their shitty living conditions, yet resource development, especially in rural areas (where reserves often are) is the best way to lift these people out of poverty.




Anyway, that's my rant haha. So how the fuck are you oil sands guys doing anyway, are there any of us left lol? Of course there are, I had a BBQ at a friend's place in Etown last weekend, there were 4 us of dudes there, 3 of the original oil sands guys who first moved to Alberta (minus Irishman/AKA Atlantic) and all are doing relatively well. Its just crazy to see how much of a difference two years can make, there used to be guys coming out every week now this thread gets bumped maybe every two weeks, I hope oil bounces back boys but it will likely be awhile, unless Trumps gets in and approves the Keystone XL pipeline and bombs ISIS controlled refineries in Iraq, a guy can only dream!!!

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Definitely missing the good old days. I moved to Thailand for the time being though visiting Canada for a few weeks this month. I have a possible job with my old company and if offered it would bring me back from SEA as the money was north of 8k a month net. But if not maybe 2017 will be different. Definitely crazy these days. This thread used to be updated daily.
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You staying busy Redbeard? Or just hanging on by a thread. I got my start date pushed back til Sept maybe Oct so a little worried but it's been a good summer off!
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If any of you oil chaps are interested, I'm looking for a final investor for my automated rock-identifier. (Automated Mudlogging).

It uses digital images of rock chips to classify the rock sample based on an algorithm.

For example, a roughneck puts the drill cuttings in my device and it will output (At 4500 feet, 40% shale, 60% sandstone). The purpose is so operators can have well-site geology for far cheaper than what they'd pay a mudlogger.


PM me your email and I'll send you a video of it in action as well as the strategy behind it.

I have a working prototype but need to make a field version with better materials.
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Hi all,

I asked some pretty stupid questions a while ago. I’ve looked at a couple recent threads and there are some responses that confirm that if Trump does indeed win the election this year the future would be in the XL pipeline. Obviously if Clinton wins then I’ll look pretty stupid but that’s life I guess. I’ve decided to take a chance and where I live there’s free manufacturing training programs. Let’s assume I train to be a welder.

Now my question is how long should I wait until I complete the training, get a manufacturing job where I live and then transfer to the oil sands? I assume that the oil sands employer would ask my manufacturing employer for a reference right? Would a year and a half under the manufacturing job be good enough to satisfy the oil sands employer, give me a leg up in terms of pay, and not piss off the manufacturing employer?

Also just for curiosity if Scotian does reply I have some interesting questions I want to PM him.
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(08-15-2016 10:34 AM)needhelp Wrote:  Hi all,

I asked some pretty stupid questions a while ago. I’ve looked at a couple recent threads and there are some responses that confirm that if Trump does indeed win the election this year the future would be in the XL pipeline. Obviously if Clinton wins then I’ll look pretty stupid but that’s life I guess. I’ve decided to take a chance and where I live there’s free manufacturing training programs. Let’s assume I train to be a welder.

Now my question is how long should I wait until I complete the training, get a manufacturing job where I live and then transfer to the oil sands? I assume that the oil sands employer would ask my manufacturing employer for a reference right? Would a year and a half under the manufacturing job be good enough to satisfy the oil sands employer, give me a leg up in terms of pay, and not piss off the manufacturing employer?

Also just for curiosity if Scotian does reply I have some interesting questions I want to PM him.

Doing any training outside of Alberta might be a huge waste of time. All the provinces have different regulating standards when it comes to the trades. I've met welders from other provinces with twenty plus years experience working as first years because they didn't have the right paperwork. You need to get a red seal (interprovincial journeyman ticket) if you start your training outside of Alberta (probably three years or so) or any training will probably be useless. Double check what I say but I'd be very careful
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Doing any training outside of Alberta might be a huge waste of time. All the provinces have different regulating standards when it comes to the trades. I've met welders from other provinces with twenty plus years experience working as first years because they didn't have the right paperwork. You need to get a red seal (interprovincial journeyman ticket) if you start your training outside of Alberta (probably three years or so) or any training will probably be useless. Double check what I say but I'd be very careful
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This is to transition into the XL pipeline which will be located in the US not in Canada. I should have clarified that and not said oil sands haha.
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I've thought about positing this many times but have been held back. Time I contributed to the thread; apologies on the formatting.

Power Engineering

What is a typical day like?

You are tasked with running a plant - can be energy, pulp and paper, marine or production/manufacturing. As a greenhand, your job is to learn the plant and troubleshoot issues. Not as physically demanding as other jobs and can be considered a little more white collar. You basically run boilers or process equipment like pumps/water treatment, make sure they don't blow up. The task involves controlling all the inputs and making sure everything works fine as well. The patron saint of power engineering is Homer Simpson.

On a good shift with a solid crew - you spend the entire day watching movies and eating. People play their stocks/games and some just sleep. You will do walk arounds but it's gravy 90% of the time.

You aren't paid for that though; it's the 10% that sucks balls. Shutdowns you are running around double time. You are responsible for lockouts/tag outs - that means people lives depend on you. You cannot fuck up of something blows/someone dies. Starting up and shutting down the plant is a complex multi-day process. You cant shut down a boiler at 1000 degrees; it takes time and procedures. As you rise up the ranks, you are put in charge of more people and work alongside engineers to coordinate everything.

The hardest part is emergency shutdowns, either due to some malfunction in equipment or electrical storms/natural disasters. You can do more work in 5 hours than an entire month. I've been there, running because the powers out and you have to get all auxiliary systems online or shit really hits the fan. It's comparable to being on a bomb squad where the boiler is the bomb. Youtube videos of plants exploding, they can level a pretty large area quick. Whereas others run away from the danger, you are charged with running towards it.

How do I get there?

3 ways to get in - Navy as a marine engineer (You basically get a Second Class and travel experience), going to school (Graduate as a Third Class but able to write your Second) or connections/apprenticeship (Few people get roped in; you can sit the initial exams independently)

There are 4 levels of certification with increasing difficulty of exams and hours required. The fourth and third class are multiple choice. Fourth class needs 6 months and you sit two exams. Third class needs 9 months firing time and 4 exams. Second class has 6 exams and roughly 12 months of firing time. Keep in mind I went the education route and this is doubled if you go off the street.

You can study the material via the books and past exams. If you are able to acquire past papers, you need 65% to past and I can say you'll score 80% if you are able to memorize exams. To get firing time you can pay schools for intensives and they teach you everything needed.

What is it's future scope and lifestyle?

There are only so many plants in Canada. Apparently operators are well paid here compared to other countries; you are a glorified janitor for the plant just like a banker could be a glorified accountant (I speak from experience).

The push for increasing intrumentation/automation has reduced jobs. Alongside baby boomers delaying retirement and schools increasing output from 50 operators a year to almost 300 each;. The government subsidizes schools with grant funding and as a tier one program they milk this. Tons more Brown/Yellow people now with a greater focus on academics instead of practical knowhow. The environement is also a lot more PC compared to trades but less than an office.

These positions used to be 30 year gigs; in todays day and age it's becoming less and less. The average pay for 4th class is $24/hour, 3rd is $28/hour, 2nd is $34/hour. Typical shifts are 3 on-3off or 1 week on-1 week off. Most operators live either in camp or in the town close to the plant.

You spend your days of with your crew and typical hobbies include golf, hunting, fishing and motorcycles. A common joke was the first thing you should do upon graduating is grab a financial advisor.

Personal recommendations

At this time, it is wiser to go the naval route. However if you go the education route, set yourself apart by taking evening classes for plumbing, electrical and welding. Network hard in your first year and perform well. If you get a job after your first year, some folks did, take it and work for a year. Go back for the second year after this as your experience speaks volumes. Study the past exams, get the old books since it's the same material.
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How do I get started in this?

UK resident.

The website provided by OP doesn't do much for me. None of qualifications needed listed or pay on any of the jobs on there.

I am pretty unqualified in terms of manual labour/skilled labour. Is there much for someone out there who isn't a skilled labourer?

I just want a piece of the obscene money they pay tbh.
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You missed the party by a couple of years bud.

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^^ Low energy. 3 posts in 2 years. Give <1% chance of coming to Canada and making obscene money.
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Yeah I just got a PM about working in the oilsands. To make it short, pretty much no one unexperienced right now will find work.
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For those of you who have been in the industry for a while -- what is the word on the street in regard to reserves in California? As I understand, there is a thick and very hard shale formation around the Bakersfield / Kern County area which has the potential to contain a great deal of hydrocarbons. However, as of a few years ago, the consensus was that there was no technology to economically access / explore potential plays for existing hydrocarbons. Nevertheless, I recently noticed that some companies are obtaining drilling rights in the area (for example, check PTRC), could be coincidence of course, but wanted to get any opinion on the viability of developing the unconventional / difficult reserves over there (not now, but in the next few years as oil goes up in price). Any thoughts?

Sources:
http://oilshalegas.com/kernoilfield.html
http://montereyoil.org/
http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_an..._scam.html

"Industry spokespeople claim that big oil has far from given up on the prospect of extracting tight oil in California through multi-stage horizontal fracking. They have vowed to continue to find ways to extract tight oil in California."

google monterey shale for more.
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(09-15-2016 09:08 AM)se7en Wrote:  For those of you who have been in the industry for a while -- what is the word on the street in regard to reserves in California? As I understand, there is a thick and very hard shale formation around the Bakersfield / Kern County area which has the potential to contain a great deal of hydrocarbons. However, as of a few years ago, the consensus was that there was no technology to economically access / explore potential plays for existing hydrocarbons. Nevertheless, I recently noticed that some companies are obtaining drilling rights in the area (for example, check PTRC), could be coincidence of course, but wanted to get any opinion on the viability of developing the unconventional / difficult reserves over there (not now, but in the next few years as oil goes up in price). Any thoughts?

I don't know much about the oil biz in that area but I can imagine that the state of California probably has some pretty insane environmental rules and regulations when it comes to drilling oil, it definitely isn't Texas or North Dakota!

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From what I understand both of your posts are correct. Hard formation + tough regulations = bad drilling environment.

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The Monterey! Almost all of the oil in California comes from there. It is what we call a 'source rock' where enough organic material accumulated in the past, which then converts into oil after a process wherein the rock is buried, heated and pressurized to create petroleum (this is called diagenesis, catagenesis and metagenesis). Lots of that oil created in the Monterey Formation migrated into shallower reservoir rocks with good permeability which is easy to produce, that's why they have been pumping oil in Kern County and the general LA Basin for a century now. But the Monterey remains the ultimate prize, as technology has allowed us to now exploit source rocks instead of what we did in the past where only high-quality reservoir rocks were drilled.
[Image: thousands-of-nodding-donkey-pumps-on-the...e1k0bn.jpg]

There is a simple reason why the Monterey hasn't caught on as the next big thing -- the geology is extremely complicated, and until the geology is figured out, engineers cannot implement completion strategies.

Geology: Most of the best American oil production lies to the east of the Rocky Mountains. Think of plays like the Bakken in MT and ND, the Niobrara (DJ Basin) in CO and the Powder River Basin in WY. They were generally deposited in simpler geologic settings. The Bakken was a tranquil and calm equatorial sea in a tropical latitude during the Carboniferous period (around 300 million years ago). The Permian Basin developed a bit later, also a simple, shallow marine environment at a low latitude. Meanwhile, all of that stuff directly east of the Rockies like the stuff in Wyoming and the Denver Basin formed after the Rocky Mountains came to be in the Cretaceous maybe 75 million years ago, where a big seaway stretched from Alberta to the Gulf of Mexico. The reason I mention all of this is to try to explain that most of these major oil fields were deposited in flat, shallower seas, and were gradually buried over time, with little in the way of subsequent mountain-building events to modify the formations into complex folded and faulted reservoirs.

California is NOT like these other places. California has some of the most spectacular and diverse geography on Earth - where else do you have coastal mountains, fertile inland valleys, deserts, basin and range topography, etc. Geologic processes create those, and you could easily teach multiple courses in any university geology program on the tectonic processes that created what we see in California today, and many Master's and PhD's have been written on the subject. What we need to know is that the Monterey formation was once a shallow, warm sea along the western margin of California in the modern Central Valley:
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The Central Valley itself is bound to the east by the Sierra Nevada Mountains, which formed maybe 250 million years ago when the coastline of 'North America' was probably at the same longitude as Utah/Idaho today, as part of the Pangea supercontinent, and collided with an island arc to build that mountain range. Flash forward to 20 million years ago where we saw some crustal extensional activity with associated volcanism, and deep marine basins formed between San Fran and the O.C. The Monterey was deposited during this time, in this elongated basin. Five million years ago most of the tectonic activity along the west coast we know today was finished, including the Peninsular Mtns, Cascade Mtns, Transverse Ranges, the modern Sierra Nevadas, etc. So we have a Monterey formation in the Central Valley bound by mountain ranges to the east and west. Despite being a young formation, the Monterey has been worked through by some pretty active tectonic forces, it is actually really crazy how deep it is (up to 15,000 feet in some places) while having surface outcrops in other locations in the state:
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From its initial deposition 17-20 million years ago to today, that is some rapid geological activity. To put it in perspective, the paleoproterozoic Canadian Shield rocks in Ontario and Quebec are up to 2 billion years old. It's a testament to the tectonic activity in California, with active subduction, rifting and rotational activity all in pretty recent geoloigic times. So keep that in mind when you think of drilling engineers trying to design a horizontal well through this formation: it is extremely folded and faulted, and would be very difficult to maintain a drill path through a consistent horizon. It's also just really expensive to drill wells this deep -- since the San Joaquin Basin is quite cold compared to basins east of the Rockies (likely due to the subduction of the cold oceanic plates proximal to California which acts as a heat scavenger), the 'oil window' (pressure/temperature conditions where the conversion of organic matter into petroleum occur) is much deeper, and it costs money to drill deep wells. That's why all of the shallower Kern River fields near Bakersfield have been in action for 100+ years -- oil is buoyant so it likes to migrate upwards, and if there is a pathway of permeable rocks for it to flow upward, it will. Most of these older Bakersfield wells are in fact exploiting Monterey-sourced oil, but it is oil that escaped to shallower rocks. With new technology, they think that they can get to the oil trapped at the source, but the depth and complex structure makes this difficult.

In addition to this complicated structural mess we see in the Monterey, we also have to understand the notion of heterogeneity. The common unconventional resources we see are generally one rock type. The Bakken is a dolomitic siltstone, the Powder River is all tight shaly sandstones, the Niobrara is chalk, and the Permian Basin stuff in TX is this muddy carbonate shit. They all present their own challenges, but are generally homogeneous in composition. The Monterey is, as you would expect, EXTREMELY varied in lithological composition. It is 2000 feet thick but a combination of sedimentation caused by erosion from nearby mountains, tectonic uplift, favorable conditions for micro-biological activity and fluctuating sea levels due to climate change have all helped contribute to the mess that is today. We have diatomaceous earth (which are the skeletal remains of microorganisms called Diatoms, a silica-based creature which leaves its fossilized remains on the sea floor when they die), Coccolithophores (the precursor to Chalks, a microorganism that has a calcitic skeletal framework), phosphates, cherts, turbidite clastics, muds (precursor to shale), silts, sandstone fingers, silica matrices, calcitic matrices, secondary dolomites... It is almost strange how they can label a rock formation this diverse as a single formation, but the changes are so sudden and frequent that they just call it all the Monterey because it was deposited in the same time period in a single region. As such, rock properties change, so there are different porosities, permeabilities, fluid saturations, oil composition, aquifer influence, etc, all in the same area. There is no such 'secret' to unleashing Monterey oil to the world, because there is so much variability in it.

Because the Monterey is such a geologically diverse formation, there will be exploitation methods that work in some areas, but not in others. I logged on to SPE (Society of Petroleum Engineers) database and found multiple papers with 'promising' results that would work in one small area but not in another. Like when you google "Cures for the Common Cold" and there are 50 different treatments (Vitamin C, sleep, steam room, chicken noodle soup, cuddling with a teddy bear, etc). If there are a ton of 'cures' instead of just one, maybe that means they haven't figured out a solution to the problem at all.

Here are some of the completion strategies being used right now in the Monterey:

-They have tried Hydraulic Fracturing:: The image below is somewhat iconic in geological engineering circles:
[Image: subsidencePole.jpg]
That is how much the ground surface has subsided in the last century due to the removal of groundwater in the San Joaquin Valley area in that California 'Inland Empire.' All due to agricultural irrigation. Think of the cultural significance of the Bakersfield-area farming industry, of those Merle Haggard 'Okies from Muskogee' to Steinbeck's Of Mice and Men lore. The massive population increase in California combined with the exploitation of the water resource in a pretty irresponsible manner back then was bad, it's out of control now with the advent of the industrialized agriculture approach we see now. The water shortage in California is very real, and people are very aware of it. Hydraulic fracturing operations require billions of gallons of water, especially if you have to drill these massive 8,000 to 15,000 feet wells to exploit the deep Monterey Fm. Where the hell is that water going to come from in this environmentally sensitive area, especially if the companies face opposition from environmental groups? Some of the Monterey fractures beautifully, some of it is naturally fractured so secondary permeability is good enough to allow for oil flow, and some of it is really rich in coccolith-type carbonates which are very soft and will close around the sand injected to 'prop' open the fracs too quickly, rendering the frac job useless. It works in some places, it doesn't in others, but if large-scale development were to occur, the water issue would be the paramount blockade to economic success.

-They have tried acid fracs where they try to dissolve the carbonate components with hydrochloric acid and the silica components with hydrofluoric acid, but the varying compositional makeup of the formation makes choosing your acid type ratios difficult.

-They have tried flushing in condensates (light hydrocarbons, similar to gasoline) down the wellbore to incorporate them with the in-situ heavy oil to make it less viscous and easier to flow. Most Monterey oil has an API Gravity (sort of an industry proxy for density) of maybe 15 (API gravity of Canadian Oil Sands Bitumen is like 8, water is 10, motor oil is around 30, West Texas Intermediate is 40, gasoline is maybe 50, for reference) so it is quite heavy and viscous. It won't flow easily, especially when it despressurizes as it flows up the wellbore and exsolves natural gas (methane, ethane and propane gases are always dissolved in oil at reservoir conditions which makes the liquid less viscous, but escapes during depressurization as it is produced) present in oil when it is deep in the reservoir, so the theory is if you pump in a lighter hydrocarbon, it will incorporate and reduce the heavy oil viscosity of the oil in the Monterey. Some of the oil has API Gravities of 35 though, it just depends on what type of organism died in that area, as all organisms will develop into different oil gravities during diagenetic processes.

-They have tried Steam Injection which works well in Kern County shallower heavy oil pools. The theory of steam injection (technically it is called CSS or Cyclic Steam Stimulation) is as follows: pump in a bunch of steam into a heavy oil reservoir, shut in your injection well for a month or so and let that steam soak into the formation and reduce oil viscosity, then fire up your production wells and make it rain. The big risk of CSS is that if you do not have a good 'cap rock' (impermeable shale sitting on top of the permeable reservoir), the pressure of the steam flood will fuck up the integrity of the cap rock and steam will escape upwards, leaving your heavy oil high and dry. You need a good, thick consistent permeable reservoir, but those are hard to find in the Monterey.
If any of you have been to like Ojai, you will have seen some production going on around there, the Ventura County play. That thing is fucking incredible - ONE BILLION barrels have been produced from an area that is like 2-3 square miles! And that is probably only a 10% recovery factor of the original oil in place because it's not like the guys who were pumping that oil in the 1950s were using elaborate steam injection methods to lower that viscosity. I bet if you could get in a Canadian group with steam injection experience from the Oil Sands you would recover up to 50% of original oil in place, but how would the California government allow steam injection now with water shortages and the threat of earthquakes?

I therefore don't think there will ever be a singular 'boom' in the Monterey. Instead, we will see small successes as companies slowly implement new completion strategies to the various components of the heterogeneous Monterey over time. To me, a boom is defined as a massive discovery in a homogenous geologic setting where a new technology unlocks a massive petroleum deposit that has been idly sitting there, patiently waiting for the right completion strategy to exploit it. Maybe something like The Green River Formation in Wyoming...
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Wow Komatiite, fascinating read. Just thought to add that I actually had a few friends directly working down in Bakersfield, and they are hurting as much as anywhere else now, pretty much all laid off within the last 6-18 months. Lots of engineers with like a decade experience doing various things. Even a couple friends from Saudi which is weird since the whole reason for the price drop was them flooding the market with cheap oil, so you'd expect them to be booming. But a lowering tide drops all ships, so even companies over there had to tighten the belt, and one way of that was getting rid of expats. I think this just sort of happens after every bust, is that a certain % of people just don't want to deal with the instability, and when things pick back up, they have moved aside and make room for other people.
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Holy shit Komatiite, that was an epic post, thank you!

(09-15-2016 07:13 PM)Seadog Wrote:  Wow Komatiite, fascinating read. Just thought to add that I actually had a few friends directly working down in Bakersfield, and they are hurting as much as anywhere else now, pretty much all laid off within the last 6-18 months. Lots of engineers with like a decade experience doing various things. Even a couple friends from Saudi which is weird since the whole reason for the price drop was them flooding the market with cheap oil, so you'd expect them to be booming. But a lowering tide drops all ships, so even companies over there had to tighten the belt, and one way of that was getting rid of expats. I think this just sort of happens after every bust, is that a certain % of people just don't want to deal with the instability, and when things pick back up, they have moved aside and make room for other people.

That's why its a good idea to have a second trade that is non oil related or some other source of income, or in your case, enough cash banked to travel the world for awhile! It will be interesting to see what will happen when oil rebounds, I've been reading reports that when it does happen, it will be a sharp a quick, sharp increase and many companies won't be able to staff projects, as we've already seen before.

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^ thanks for your post, that was by far the most well written and logical thing Ive read on the topic.
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The oil biz is pretty shit right now.
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Fucking Houston job market is shitty, the unemployed oil paper pushers have now flooded the applicant pool in other industries (Aerospace and healthcare). It's a good time if you want to sublease some office space though.

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Anyone know how common 14/14 shifts are in the oil patch? When things fire back up again I hope to be doing that.
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