Post: #26

Quote:The point is there is a grand canyon size difference between a dude that can play an instrument well and a working professional musician stepping off stage in a club he has been hired to play in with his band.

I’ve played guitar in clubs and venues (and was paid) both with my own band and as a fill-in musician with already established acts. The quickest route to the girls is certainly the second situation, if the band has a decent following and reputation. Playing shows with those guys I would have girls approaching me after the show, which really blew my mind at the time.

Of course, I didn’t have the skill/game/whatever to take full advantage of the situation. It was before I found places like this.

Post: #27

(02-10-2019 02:09 PM)subterfuge Wrote:  I can play the guitar and the piano. Neither has helped me.

blah blah approaching heaps helped blah

As you perfectly demonstrated, being "something" (musician or whatever) is irrelevant to game if you don't have direct exposure to a crowd of women.

If you aren't gigging, then being a musician makes no difference. If you are gigging and have a crowd, your direct approaches get a huge boost without even leaving the venue.

This is straight up basic Mystery Method. Demonstration of higher value (you command the room and everyone is there for you), confidence (you have the balls to get your balls out in front of a crowd), belonging to a tribe (musicians/band members/club members/venue in crowd) and peacocking (you are highly visible).

MM was not about "routines", way more depth than that... yet at the core it remains simple and entirely natural.

MM focuses on human nature and subconscious psychology. Any routines or lines are just ice breakers or openers, they're not the "method".

Post: #28

I've played guitar for 25 years and use it to close women.
First meet, I always innocently ask what kind of music she likes. I listen for songs that I could play later.
Then, I find a reason to do so, at my place.
I find that girls in South America really, really, really like "Nothing Else Matters". Pupils dilate when I play the intro, and it's pretty much on like Donkey Kong when I set down the guitar.

Post: #29

The idea that anyone can pick up a guitar, learn a couple songs and just start playing gigs is ludicrous. The OP clearly hasn't seriously studied any instrument.
Yes, being a good musician will get you laid often but in order to be a good musician you first have to be a total loser. It takes hours upon hours sitting alone locked in a room practicing your instrument to become proficient.

Post: #30

@Danteschall

Yeah I feel you, wasn’t trying to dispute your post before mine, I actually didn’t read it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mostly use my guitar playing to close. Get them back to my place, smoke a little bit of weed and I’ll play them a jam or two to show off. Although at that point they probably would bang me anyway, but it’s a good reason to get them back.

I haven’t played live in a while but the last time I did I banged two girls from the crowd; not a same night threesome (I wish), they saw me play, I approached and already had value, got numbers and had dates later. I agree it would be hard to facilitate a same night lay after performing (especially with packing up all the gear and what-not) but as far as generating new leads went it worked pretty well

Post: #31

Seems like a waste of time and effort for relatively little payoff.

Post: #32

Yes, and it works really well, lol.

Post: #33

(02-10-2019 11:54 PM)JakckieDanger437 Wrote:  Yes, and it works really well, lol.

Not disputing that but there are definitely more efficient ways to game women.

Post: #34

I started playing guitar at 12 cause I thought it would impress girls. It didn't. Until I got good at it.

Back in Highschool and College, it was an easy way to get girls around and proceed to game. There was always a kind of admiration from them, too. Maybe it's lost now given the state of music and society, but playing guitar, singing and entertaining a group of people used to meant you would be the 'situational alpha' while at the same time plucking some emotional strings, as music always entail some of that. I recall those times now with some nostalgia, but also some cringe - so many bad songs I played just to make pussies wet. Seems dumb now but it worked.

Ultimately, however, you don't want to wife up groupies, they'll eventually find another new and exciting troubador to fuck.

Post: #35

(02-10-2019 11:18 PM)BronzedAussie Wrote:  Seems like a waste of time and effort for relatively little payoff.

It's a catch 22 thing.

There is nearly 0 value in being an amateur player. Meaning you are not a working pro playing live in front of an audience.

You really should be playing seriously and professionally for the pure love of performing music. The benefit of attracting chicks is a pure side benefit. JackinMelbourne said better than I have been trying to say.

You HAVE to be up front, on stage in front of a crowd playing in order to get the benefits playing can give you when it comes to trying to pick up a hottie. Even then there is no assurance you can close her.

I'm 5'9 and about 155 If she is into guys that are 6'4 -6'6 and tip the scale at 275+ and have that biker thing going your likely wasting your time regardless of how much higher value you've just demonstrated

That's why I really think one of the best things you can do in learning and improving your success rate is approach women you are sending you COME OVER HERE signals.

If you have to HB8/9's and one is clearing sending you the "come over here" look (especially if she makes eye contact and smiles.) and the other is not sending you any IOI you're stupid to pass on the one who wants you to approach

Post: #36

(02-11-2019 05:16 PM)Danteschall Wrote:  That's why I really think one of the best things you can do in learning and improving your success rate is approach women who are sending you COME OVER HERE signals.

When was the last time anybody read anything in their spam folder?
Targeted marketing for the win.