Post: #51

(07-12-2013 05:18 PM)planz Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 12:26 AM)yb13 Wrote:  ^^Planz - I spent about 5 nights between two different stops in Madrid. Though I didn't pull (sickness, Christmas Day, bad logistics, etc), I will say Madrilenas are much more outgoing than Catalonians. Especially if you speak Spanish.

With that being said, I found tourists, ex-pats, immigrants, and locals in Madrid to be of a higher calibre than the ones I encountered in Barcelona.

Yes, I do agree with you about Madridian girls are a bit more outgoing than Catalans. But I got to admit that the Madridian girls I've come across are not gameable. From my experience in Catalonia, Catalan girls exhibit some sort of superiority complex. I think all of Spain does. But Catalans and Basques take the cake!

Mad props if you had a more enjoyable time feeling out the vibes of Catalan chicks. I didn't really try as I was turned off by their vibes from the get go, haha.

Madrileñas are anything but an easy lay, but I had more fun gaming them due to their non-verbal cues, style, and personalities. Probably the best chances I had were at a place called Buddha when chicks were coming up to me flirting while asking for cigarettes. Thought I had it in the bag with a Brazilian chick who got me into the club without cover not to mention free drinks so that's why I didn't get to capitalize.

Certain locales that are great for some might not be so good for others/vice versa so I get that.

Post: #52

(07-12-2013 06:19 PM)yb13 Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 05:18 PM)planz Wrote:  

(07-12-2013 12:26 AM)yb13 Wrote:  ^^Planz - I spent about 5 nights between two different stops in Madrid. Though I didn't pull (sickness, Christmas Day, bad logistics, etc), I will say Madrilenas are much more outgoing than Catalonians. Especially if you speak Spanish.

With that being said, I found tourists, ex-pats, immigrants, and locals in Madrid to be of a higher calibre than the ones I encountered in Barcelona.

Yes, I do agree with you about Madridian girls are a bit more outgoing than Catalans. But I got to admit that the Madridian girls I've come across are not gameable. From my experience in Catalonia, Catalan girls exhibit some sort of superiority complex. I think all of Spain does. But Catalans and Basques take the cake!

Mad props if you had a more enjoyable time feeling out the vibes of Catalan chicks. I didn't really try as I was turned off by their vibes from the get go, haha.

Madrileñas are anything but an easy lay, but I had more fun gaming them due to their non-verbal cues, style, and personalities. Probably the best chances I had were at a place called Buddha when chicks were coming up to me flirting while asking for cigarettes. Thought I had it in the bag with a Brazilian chick who got me into the club without cover not to mention free drinks so that's why I didn't get to capitalize.

I agree with you about Madrid chicks. Many of them when they visit the US dont loosen up and act like youre going to do somethimg to them. Whats helped me is being very indirect and a bit more serious. From my experience, they dont like it if you act too playful. When I approached them this way, I managed to get a fine few of them in bed. Maybe this can help you.

Post: #53

Hi Guys

I'm moving to Madrid next month to study at IE for a year. Which areas/streets are the best to live in? I'm looking for places with good logistics to night game, not too far from the centre and close to or well-connected to IE Business school.

Thanks
Omsy

Post: #54

Just got back from a few days in Madrid so I thought I'd drop some more
data into the thread.

Tuesday night: I went to a club called La Posada de las Ánimas in the northeast of the city. Place has kind of a fancy vibe so it might be a
good idea to dress up (I didn't so face control isn't a problem, just to fit in with the style of the place), and the drinks are pricey at 7 euro a beer, although there wasn't a cover which is nice. Seemed to be a largely local crowd and drew lots of foxy Spanish chicks.

I did a bunch of approaches here and the girls were usually really friendly, I didn't get any blow outs and they were actually interested in chatting even if they obviously weren't attracted to me, but my piss poor Spanish was holding me back. I hooked up with a sexy Madrileña; 22 years old, high 7; but her friend ended up dragging her away and although we chatted back and forth on Facebook, I couldn't get a second meet lined up in the few days I was there. Overall the level of talent was high, but it wasn't really my scene as I'm more of a rock music, dive bar kinda guy. Get there early (12-2) for a good ratio; later on it's a dick fest.

Wednesday night: I went out way too late and wandered around Malasaña aimlessly before finally finding a bar and hanging out with some cats. I can't remember the name of the joint, but it doesn't really matter because I was just shooting the shit with some people and there weren't any cute chicks to hit on. I checked this thread before I left but somehow I missed yb13's recommendation of Kapital and Buddha on a Wednesday so I'm kicking myself now; next time haha.

Thursday night: I went to a bar in Malasaña called Tupperware which was fun, definitely more my vibe. Indie rock playing, cheap beer, young studenty crowd. Got to chatting with three Madrileñas; two sexy, and one a bit too old (but still a little sexy in a Mrs Robinson kinda way), and my buddy hit it off with one of them but I was spinning my wheels. Conversation wasn't bad but I could tell she didn't want to fuck me.

Pretty much the whole bar left together to go to an after hours place at around 3am, and I think a bunch of other bars shut at the same time because we were in a big crowd all of a sudden. This wild bearded dude on the street opened me on the street, just asking me where I'm from etc and I start bullshitting with him. Then I notice he's got three friends with him; one handsome dude, and two banging chicks. I figured the good looking dude had one of them locked down, but beardy dude wasn't much to look at so I thought I was in with a chance. Sure enough, thank God for beardy dude because it turned out both of the chicks were single, and one of them was super into me.

Only problem was my chica spoke zero English but luckily she was patient with me and I ended up knowing more Spanish than I realised. We hung out at the late night spot for a couple of hours just chatting and making out, and then I pulled her back to the hostel for the bang. So I got my Spanish flag, plus she was a Madrileña and properly sexy; 24 years old, 7.5. I'm pretty sure the after hours spot was called BarCo but I'm not 100% sure, if any Madrid players can confirm a bar in Malasaña that would be open around 5am on a Thursday that would be sweet.

I stayed for another night, but I ended up meeting up again with the chick from the previous night because guaranteed lovin from a Spanish minx (I know I know, is this beta?).

General notes on the girls: From reading about Spanish chicks on the forum I expected them to be on average really sexy but also unfriendly and social-circle obsessed.

The sexy part is totally true, I've just arrived in Berlin and the drop off in quality is absolutely staggering. It's not even necessarily a genetic thing, because lots of Germans have pretty faces; it's just that Spanish girls dress and carry themselves in such a way that you've got a perpetual semi, whereas the Germans don't seem to understand the very concept of 'sexy'. Greek Kamaki wrote that the Germans are so productive because they're not distracted by babes all the time, and I think he's pretty spot on.

In my experience Spanish chicks were not stuck-up or unfriendly at all, quite the opposite, but the social-circle thing is pretty true. Of all the chicks I interacted with over there, I never really 'isolated' any of them as the friends were always pretty close. Back in Australia my standard move once I've established rapport is to go outside for a smoke, and pretty much every time she'll ditch her friends and hang out with me. In Spain there wasn't much of that. I guess I just got lucky in that I didn't encounter many egregious cockblocks? The friend of the chick from the first night did end up pulling her home, but she seemed cool with us making out (she was standing right next to us hahah).

So in general Madrid was a cool city with foxy babes who are actually pretty friendly and open to meeting a foreigner. I thought Australians would be played out over there but people were loving it, asking me if I'm a surfer etc. I'll admit I got lucky with the social circle issue, but I don't think that's insurmountable. If I had fluent Spanish and good logistics (not a shared room in a hostel lol) I think it'd be even better. Oh and my buddy would have pulled his chick but he had to leave town that morning, he's been texting her though and he thinks for sure he'll get the bang when he returns to Madrid.

Post: #55

Great thread, thanks for all the info guys. I'm going to Madrid for a week for my spring break in a couple months.

Post: #56

My experience with Madrid was that the girls were social circle obsessed, difficult to get with, and the clubs were expensive and a little underwhelming. That being said, I was 18 when I went and I'm sure a lot has changed with both the place and my confidence since. I ended up settling for a handjob from a Swiss girl. I couldn't speak to her in French but my buddy convinced her to come back to the room with us and then suddenly decided he should push for the threesome, upon which she immediately departed and left us there. If you're reading this Tom, go fuck yourself.

Post: #57

Great advice here! I will check out Madrid from 2. September to 7. September and see if it would be a good hub.

Any advice for tuesday-sunday nightlife?
-not alternative
-good for rolling solo (less tables, bigger, ...)
-my Spanish is fluent

Let me know if anybody wanna meet up!

Post: #58

I grew up in Madrid.

I would seriously advise again travel there for game purposes. The girls have become significantly uglier in the past few years and have fully assumed Western culture and attitude, they are covered in tattoos and look like men. They behave like men aswell. Even for a good-looking man with game, the amount of attitude you will have to sift through there is astounding. If you do have game, focus on day game as Spanish men are wonderful at inflating the egos of women in nightclubs, and even then your ROI will be significantly lower that other countries. ONS is certainly possible, but you are far more likely to get it from the street than from a nightclub.

The girls are R-selected, meaning a cold approach will be mostly sexual. She has little interest in romance or a relationship. If she goes out on a date with you, it is either for sex or out of boredom, not for a relationship, unless she is a post-wall husband-hunter. But, at the same time, ASD is high due to the culture, and you must navigate the social-circle problem, in which girls put much emphasis on what friends think. They are becoming easier and easier, but they are still significantly tougher than other countries, for no additional reward.

They are princesses. They are probably the most entitled in Europe, a 5 has standards higher than a Russian 10. They believe men exist only to serve them. This translates to an incredibly unpleasant attitude, among the worst I have encountered in my travels. In fact, the case could be made that they are worse than American women. Take an American woman, make her even more unpleasant and triple the difficulty of getting her into bed and you have a Spanish girl.

Travelling there for game is kamikaze. There is no point, but if you still want to, I would advise you to move quickly, and try to get everything done and settled before the friends can have a say in it. You must subliminally convince her that fast sex with strangers is ok and then act on that buying temperature ASAP. The friends are the real problem, which is the reason she can be warm on approach and then almost always flake. You can have good results but your game must be very advanced for a very low reward.

Post: #59

Is Big Bottle still going on there?

I've been twice, once in 2005 and 2008. Thought the city was great both times but in '08 BB was in full swing and the trip was somewhat marred by the crowds of pissed students milling around in the city square, especially by the women pissing - in full view - in the bushes outside our hotel.

Post: #60

(12-10-2013 07:46 PM)Arturo Belano Wrote:  In my experience Spanish chicks were not stuck-up or unfriendly at all, quite the opposite, but the social-circle thing is pretty true. Of all the chicks I interacted with over there, I never really 'isolated' any of them as the friends were always pretty close. Back in Australia my standard move once I've established rapport is to go outside for a smoke, and pretty much every time she'll ditch her friends and hang out with me. In Spain there wasn't much of that. I guess I just got lucky in that I didn't encounter many egregious cockblocks? The friend of the chick from the first night did end up pulling her home, but she seemed cool with us making out (she was standing right next to us hahah).

So in general Madrid was a cool city with foxy babes who are actually pretty friendly and open to meeting a foreigner. I thought Australians would be played out over there but people were loving it, asking me if I'm a surfer etc. I'll admit I got lucky with the social circle issue, but I don't think that's insurmountable. If I had fluent Spanish and good logistics (not a shared room in a hostel lol) I think it'd be even better. Oh and my buddy would have pulled his chick but he had to leave town that morning, he's been texting her though and he thinks for sure he'll get the bang when he returns to Madrid.

Spot on..After almost 20 years mate I thought the Aussie thing was played out but as long as your not a bogan it's cool over their...I've got 2 Aussie mates who live over there now.Both married Spanish women.

I've passed through Madrid many years ago..My best mate is Aussie/ Catalan and Catalans have nothing nice to say about Madrid...I want to check it out next time though..
I do love BCN chicas but Andalusian chicas blow me away ..their skin is just so fine..I met some real stunners in Marbella on the beach a few weeks ago in fact I'd say the most beautiful women I have ever seen or tried to pick up, Andalusian with a Bo Derek body...I going to Malaga next time solo and take the train from Madrid.

I found with Spanish girls that they were disappointed more that my Spanish was so bad and that I didn't live there although I do look Spanish...even when they reject me I find it sexy.


I fucking love Spain...and you can't beat a Spanish seaside resort town for finding woman from all over who are DTF.

Post: #61

Daygame was my favourite part in the Sol area, hit up a romanian, paraguayan and 3 spaniards (long gaming these now). I also hit that huge nightclub and managed to score some international stunners by working my way down from the 7th floor
- 6th floor hit on 2 swedes, they were alright but I wasn't going to settle
- 5th floor grabbed an austrian
- 4th floor talked to 3 hispanic chicks from Miami, god they were annoying.
- 3rd floor skipped
- 2nd floor - 3 models who were in the VIP section but wanted to get away, sealed the deal within that group

I want to go back, this was on a fucking stag and only 4 days but I really enjoyed it.

Post: #62

Wednesday:

Kapital doesn't open anymore on wednesdays.

Buddha closed if you guys speak about "Buddha del mar":
http://www.elmundo.es/loc/2014/01/07/52c...b456a.html
Instead there is another club called "Oh! Madrid".

Post: #63

In Spain I'd say the most important thing is venue selection. I conccur with a few things OnlyMarryInTajikistan has said, but I think he's making huge exaggerations. By talking to average looking female friends of mine (5s and 6s) I can see that they have ridiculous, ski-high standards more often than not. However, Spanish girls are also tired of the thirstiness that guys display on the mainstream clubs, so doing an indirect, half decent approach can get you far. If you want to do well in Spain I'd advice to go to smaller venues preferably during week nights. Spanish girls do something I really hate, and that is they often form a circle within the dance floor so that all their attention is focused on their girl friends and an approach is impossible. They usually dance in a high energy fashion while doing this, again making an approach totally out of the question. I've travelled to a few contries and never seen this, apparently it's a spanish thing. In addition, drinking at a club is extremely expensive, most people just pre-drink until 2 or 3 am ("botellón") and then hit the clubs. Approaching by the bar is therefore only possible in smaller venues where alcohol is less expensive. The "spanish-dancing-girl-circle" phenomenon that I've previously described is also less common on weeknights at smaller venues where it is also easier to find girls going out in small groups of 2 or 3. When girls go out on a weekend night, they usually do so in large groups where there's also often guys (so plenty of cockblock opportunities). In addition, Spanish girls are a bit like Romanian girls (based on Roosh's writtings on Poosy Paradise) in that they care a lot about what their friends think. Basically unless you really care about getting your spanish flag, I wouldn't bother too much with Spanish girls. Some of them are beautiful, I think the talent is among the highest for western Europe, but the ROI is low, I'd rather game Dutch or British girls which are easier and not hard to find.

Post: #64

(08-23-2014 12:51 PM)OnlyMarryInTajikistan Wrote:  I grew up in Madrid.

I would seriously advise again travel there for game purposes. The girls have become significantly uglier in the past few years and have fully assumed Western culture and attitude, they are covered in tattoos and look like men. They behave like men aswell. Even for a good-looking man with game, the amount of attitude you will have to sift through there is astounding. If you do have game, focus on day game as Spanish men are wonderful at inflating the egos of women in nightclubs, and even then your ROI will be significantly lower that other countries. ONS is certainly possible, but you are far more likely to get it from the street than from a nightclub.

The girls are R-selected, meaning a cold approach will be mostly sexual. She has little interest in romance or a relationship. If she goes out on a date with you, it is either for sex or out of boredom, not for a relationship, unless she is a post-wall husband-hunter. But, at the same time, ASD is high due to the culture, and you must navigate the social-circle problem, in which girls put much emphasis on what friends think. They are becoming easier and easier, but they are still significantly tougher than other countries, for no additional reward.

They are princesses. They are probably the most entitled in Europe, a 5 has standards higher than a Russian 10. They believe men exist only to serve them. This translates to an incredibly unpleasant attitude, among the worst I have encountered in my travels. In fact, the case could be made that they are worse than American women. Take an American woman, make her even more unpleasant and triple the difficulty of getting her into bed and you have a Spanish girl.

Travelling there for game is kamikaze. There is no point, but if you still want to, I would advise you to move quickly, and try to get everything done and settled before the friends can have a say in it. You must subliminally convince her that fast sex with strangers is ok and then act on that buying temperature ASAP. The friends are the real problem, which is the reason she can be warm on approach and then almost always flake. You can have good results but your game must be very advanced for a very low reward.

I have lived in Madrid for a while, and I can back up everything said here. Madrid is awful for meeting girls. The girls are the least attractive that I have seen in Europe, and they have terrible attitudes. It is really amazing getting such attitude from such painfully mediocre girls. Also, they don't speak English. At all. And they are unimpressed even if you speak fluent Spanish. Also, I have met several Ukrainian and Russian girls here for vacation, and they were just brutal talking about how unattractive Spanish girls are. One said that she didn't understand how they could procreate, because the women were so unattractive. And Madrid is one of the gayest city in Europe, if not the gayest. So, in short, don't come.

If you really are going to come, here are some recommendations. First, focus on tourists. Spanish girls are a lot of work and totally not worth it. Sol during the day, and at night, is a good spot to talk to girls on the street. People tend to congregate in the square. You can meet some tourists girls by just walking up and talking to them. The problem is that promoters trying to bring them to clubs will talk to them by the dozen, so they are often wary of strangers. They are two almost identical Irish Pubs on Calle Espoz y Mina, just off Calle Mayor, which are okay. Lots of foreigners are there and they speak okay English. Another place that is okay is Studio 54. It is another Irish pub with a big dance floor in the basement. There will often be foreign students there, and it is cheap. It is between Sol and Gran Via, just off of Calle Montera (the pedestrian street filled with prostitutes).

As people have mentioned, Kapital is a huge, 7 story club. They have different types of music on each floor, and a rooftop area to smoke that is open in the summer. There are almost always people between Thursday and Saturday night at Kapital but drinks are expensive for Madrid (10 euro each). I would concentrate on girls smoking, as most girls aren't receptive to dance game.

If you want to see the best talent that Madrid has to offer (a low bar, but still) I would recommend Gabana. It is located in the Salamanca area, the trendiest and most expensive part of Madrid. But girls will not be receptive unless you get bottle service and can invite them into the VIP area.

Again, if you do come, best of luck. And may God have mercy on your soul.

Post: #65

I wish you guys were right when you say that Spanish girls are hideous but the truth is the talent is actually not bad at all. The problem is that gaming a 6 is not much easier than gaming an 8 due to attitude, social circles, cockblocking etc. Check the photos of two of the main clubs in my city to see what I'm talking about

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=...891&type=3

https://www.facebook.com/Discoteca.Super...tos_stream

Big groups and a snobby vibe is not uncommon but the girls are still attractive.

Post: #66

I agree with the above posters. There is talent in Spain if you come from a shit-land like the UK, but it is incredibly mediocre if you compare it to the true beauty-paradises of the FSU. But, the real downer is their personalities. These girls are among the most unpleasant on the planet, even when they like you. The end result is a 7, maybe 8 if you force it a bit, with a shitty personality. I have rarely gone on dates with Spanish girls where I didn't feel compelled to never contact her again.

Then, add to that the low ROI. The place breaks a basic economic rule, low quality goods sold at a high price. You would have to be insane to go there for women.

I also agree that, if you are to game in Spain, focus on foreigners. Check out Nomad's post of Yes/No/Maybe girls. Although Spanish girls are not completely inaccessible, they are significantly harder, enough so that you would probably have more to show for your money gaming foreign girls for three hours than going on a date with one. Leave your ego at home, you are not better than everyone else. There is a reason the Kamaki's came up in Greece, the Italians have flooded Europe, and the Spanish have a reputation in Europe as lovers. Many of these men avoided their own women because they understood it wasn't in their best interest to focus on them. Let's leave our ego at home and learn from them.

Post: #67

I went yesterday to Joy, it was the only safe bet I found.

It seemed to me like a mix out of Miami and Buenos Aires, perhaps because they played lots of Hip Hop. A vip area one meter higher with six-pack dudes dancing to kill the Ego of my fellow competitors on the main dance floor. There were lots of girls in groups of two to four. Unfortunately I met mainly latin girls that i quitted early because I wanted to get to know some Spanish girls (I will fly to Colombia next week).

It seemed to me that only a third of the girls were Spanish. The quality was really high (and i came from Czech republic before). Even on the streets you see lots of 8s walking around. So there is definitely no quality issue in Madrid.

The Spanish girls I approached were actually pretty nice, but somehow not that responsive. However, I didn't see a lot of arrogance, just subtil rejections, polite and authentic.

I met some non-bangable chicks that actually flirted pretty well. I have the feeling that Spanish girls know how to flirt but they do it only if there is a big value difference. I could imagine that Spain is a good country to find a girlfriend (basically a latin girl with some more self-esteem and smart).

However, if you don't speak Spanish, stay away from Madrid!


Madrid is not a place to play the money game. Similar to Italy and Buenos Aires girls give a shit if you are successful in business or not.

Entree was 10€ (you get on a list on http://www.madridlux.com/es/) that includes a drink. Drinks are 12€. Average girls-age perhaps 21.


I made 2 sets in parque retiro, both girls were actually girlfriend material (not that I'm looking for that). I could imagine that both of these girls are pretty arrogant at 5PM in a nightclub.

Today I will go to Kapital, shoot me a message with your number if You (yes, you) wanna join.

Post: #68

Mine is an old experience, but i didnt have any dificulty to pick up girls and eve got a ONS. Maybe it was because i was already acostumed to BA.

Post: #69

(11-12-2012 10:25 AM)Brosemite Wrote:  I appreciate all the input. I've been to Madrid before, and was sick unfortunately that time. I'd rank the women on a scale of 1-10 from 7-14..lol. And I got the eye from so many of them.

Will be going again with my sister to Madrid & Barcelona around Christmas/NYE. Any good tips for people going around holiday season? I know exponentially more Spanish now than I did my first trip.

Will report back on forum about day/night game as older sis will be hibernating at nights, haha.

are you nordic or brithis/german type?because they love it

Post: #70

(01-07-2015 01:28 PM)aguirre Wrote:  are you nordic or brithis/german type?because they love it

East Asian though it was Mid-November at that point. Got to show off my cold weather look during that season haha.

Post: #71

do you think this fact is true about Spain?

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/12/...r-players/

I tried Eastern European and Russian while travelling,I visited the three baltic countries,belarus and Rusia and I can say is neither better or worse.

Is just a matter of pros and cons.

For example all spanish guys I saw saying this(like in the article) were the more desperate

Post: #72

(01-07-2015 05:37 PM)aguirre Wrote:  do you think this fact is true about Spain?

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/12/...r-players/

I tried Eastern European and Russian while travelling,I visited the three baltic countries,belarus and Rusia and I can say is neither better or worse.

Is just a matter of pros and cons.

For example all spanish guys I saw saying this(like in the article) were the more desperate

As a Spaniard, I wouldn't say that Spain is "the worst country in the world for players" but the article does have a bit of truth in it. I've also been to Poland and Belarus and both countries were great. Call me desperate if you wish, but being abroad has been an eye opening experience. Mediterranean women have shitty attitudes when compared to their E. European counterparts. Getting laid in Spain is more of a long term game, a matter of social circle, patience and puting up with princess-attitude and occasional bitch shields. Nightlife mostly sucks (although I can't really say for Madrid). The grass, really is greener in other countries and knowing that I've got a better ROI with foreign women, I only cold-approach Spanish chicks for fun or out of boredom/lack of other options (when I go back to Spain to visit family etc)

Post: #73

^^ EDIT: In short, what I wanted to say before is that in Spain, the sexual marketplace favours women, while in EE it favours men. The article goes a bit too far, but overall, Spain is not a good country in terms of it's women. Talent is not bad but there's nothing special about them.

Post: #74

For those who are planning to go to Madrid and want to see the night scene.

Best places are:

-New Garamound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pDNv_VfYfE

-Gabana:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0yJWCYWu8w

-Kapital:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPTlcHfQt-E

Post: #75

I agree that night game is a tough gig here. Seems like a lot of girls come out locked in medium to big groups, that are difficult to navigate. Plus the level of English is way lower than most European capitals. The general par in terms of appearance i'd say is about the same as a major UK city. Spanish girls are hotter than your average Brit (not hard!) but the lack of a sizeable pool of eastern europeans, brings them down, whereas that's the UK's only favour.

However, in my experience the girls here are open to chat, stylish and if you up for daygame and pre-select (i prefer arty types, so focus on Malasana and other hipster area), then there's a decent amount to shoot at. Lavapies has some cool bars and venues too.

In a nutshell i'd give the place a 6 out 10 in Game terms. The girls are here, reasonable standard, but the city is a bit unweildy, the nightlife not my personal cup of tea, and it's a bit pricey.

That said, in general i think the Spanish are a really friendly, chilled culture. There's great cafes, parks, cool bars and just general ambience around. So for a short stay it's worth a visit, if you are not 100% results focused.

I'm here til mid Feb, if want to meet for a coffee or to hit some bars drop me a PM.