Post: #26

Before my dad got married he was a stud. Fit, athletic, college basketball stud. But sadly that all changed when he got married. Now, he's fat and pussy-whipped by my mom. She doesn't work and doesn't do a damn thing around the house either. My dad pays people to clean the house. He hasn't taught me shit about how to attract girls and now I know why. He's a typical beta provider married to an entitlement bitch. And I hate to talk about my mom that way but jeez this woman doesn't have a job and doesn't do shit aside from spend my dad's money. At least he provides to me an example of what not to be if I ever become rich and successful.

Post: #27

My dad is pretty alpha, but never told me anything about girls at all! I could have been so far ahead of things if he did, or if I had even paid more attention to what he did. Oh well, better late than never.

Post: #28

I forgot to mention above, there was only one time anyone in my life really tried to help me. When I was 14, I went back east to spend the summer at my aunts house. I have tons of cousins my age. Most these dudes live in the ghetto where there's no such thing as dudes being afraid to spit game at girls. Any such dude wouldn't last long there without being called out as a pussy if he wasn't talking to girls. One of my female cousins went to some sort of conference or something for a few days. She made friends with this girl that lived across the river in Jersey. I went to this conference one day and met that girl and thought she was cute. A few days later my female cousin suggested I call her. I clammed up. Her brother(another cousin) who was kind of a player at the time grabbed the number, dialed the phone and then stuck the phone in my face and forced me to talk to her. My heart was pounding as I was listening to the phone ring. She picked up and I managed to end up having a conversation with her. At this point I recall nothing about our talk.

What my cousin did was the sort of swift kick in the ass someone like me needed growing up that I never got from my dad. He saw it as his duty to help me get past my fear. If I'd grown up around my cousins, I would've learned game from an early age. I was raised on the opposite end of the country with no supporting family, no brothers, and nobody to take me under their wing. Boys shouldn't be allowed to grow up like that. It will fuck up their life development.

Post: #29

My dad offered no advice. My mom gave my brother this book



Then she gave it to me..

Post: #30

My pops was a pretty smooth dude back in the day and definitely alpha. He served in the Army and was stationed throughout europe. I got to hear lots of stories about how ridiculous it was being a brotha in germany ,uk and belgium in the 70’s. As a result of his time overseas, my pops speaks fluent german, proficient french and can communicate in russian.

My dad gave me a couple jewels about women when I was in my mid-teens, taught me a lot about the games women play and the traps they use on men. He gave me a pretty solid background on the feminist propaganda being pushed in the media and forced me to keep things in focus. He encouraged me to travel, study languages, and not get caught up in the stereotypical bullshit american lifestyle.

I remember how my Pops would flirt with waitresses anytime we went out to eat, and after he seperated from my mother (they’re still on good terms) he had a couple different women in rotation. My father wasn’t around as much as I would have liked but it seems like he did a better job than many in educating me on the opposite sex. If I would’ve had the chance to spend more time around him back in the day like my older brother did I would probably be a certified mack by now.

Post: #31

(11-15-2011 02:25 AM)azulsombra Wrote:  My pops was a pretty smooth dude back in the day and definitely alpha. He served in the Army and was stationed throughout europe. I got to hear lots of stories about how ridiculous it was being a brotha in germany ,uk and belgium in the 70’s. As a result of his time overseas, my pops speaks fluent german, proficient french and can communicate in russian.

My dad gave me a couple jewels about women when I was in my mid-teens, taught me a lot about the games women play and the traps they use on men. He gave me a pretty solid background on the feminist propaganda being pushed in the media and forced me to keep things in focus. He encouraged me to travel, study languages, and not get caught up in the stereotypical bullshit american lifestyle.

I remember how my Pops would flirt with waitresses anytime we went out to eat, and after he seperated from my mother (they’re still on good terms) he had a couple different women in rotation. My father wasn’t around as much as I would have liked but it seems like he did a better job than many in educating me on the opposite sex. If I would’ve had the chance to spend more time around him back in the day like my older brother did I would probably be a certified mack by now.

Azul,you're the only black guy who confirms this widespread belief. Ohh well;the myth of the veteran black playa dad schooling his son can finally be laid to rest as an inaccurate urban legend.

Post: #32

(11-13-2011 03:59 PM)OGNorCal707 Wrote:  Wait so your Dad is almost 70 and he's got Alzheimers, but he's still banging women in their mid-twenties...? Dude sounds like he may possibly be one of the greatest players of all time.

There's an 18 year difference between my parents, I think that says it all.

He's a great guy, I wish I would have had more of a stable relationship with him when I was a child.

My grandfathers were the real bosses though.

One was a straight up boss, he would run the numbers game hard in the nyc area back in the 40's and 50's. He had all types of businesses as well, he used to chill with a lot of jazz cats. Me and a few of my siblings found pics of him wearing the custom suits etc.

The other grandfather was a sailor in the caribbean back in the 30's. There are lots of stories of how he learned spanish and would game plenty of women in cuba and central america (this is how he got my grandmother).

The sad thing is that both men died well before they turned 50.

I have an uncle who was old enough to pick up lots of game from the first grandfather that I mentioned. His game is really strong, I picked up little things here and there from him but he was incarcerated throughout the majority of my youth. He's willing to share knowledge and teach me a few things nowadays.

Post: #33

my dad didn't teach me shit in the way of game or women. Didn't tell me one goddamn thing, but he is still an amazing dad and I don't hold it against him. Just slowed the learning curve for me.

Post: #34

My dad has never talked to me about girls but I see how he was with my mom and is with my stepmom. Very laid back but doesn't take shit. Definetly wears the pants in the relationship and doesn't let the woman walk over him. I'm curious to how he was when he was younger.

Post: #35

it was the opposite for me.

Post: #36

My pops didn't tell me anything about game. It was my moms who fed me the poison and lies. So here I am.

Post: #37

One thing my dad told me that always stuck with me, pertaining to women was: "why be with an average woman when you can choose what you want? I mean, if you gotta look at her everyday, why not have something pretty to look at? Pretty women need love too. SOMEBODY gotta be with the really pretty girl. She gotta choose somebody....why not you?"

That little monologue he gave has always stuck with me since I was like 18.

Post: #38

I'm of mixed guyanese extraction but I'm a functional lightskinned brotha in this country. I'd say I received very little help from my dad. I've been through multiple marriages, but he gave me a couple key pieces of advice:

-set the date for after dinner time so you're not sponsoring her
-if she hasn't put out by the third date then move on

Other than that I've tried to adopt what I saw as positive traits from other males and have spent the last 2 years actively undoing the beta conditioning my mother subjected me to with respect to how to cater to women.

Post: #39

The only advice my Dad gave me:

"Son, don't get married until you're 30. Then, don't get married."

Post: #40

My father was a Vietnam vet who met my mom when he came back to the States. For the most part, he was a hustler and a pimp (hustler is literal, pimp is figurative) who was a big-time alpha in the 70's. He slowed down when I was born in '80, but he was still definitely an alpha. We rarely talked about anything important. In fact, I couldn't even come to him with typical boy issues without getting yelled at. My mom was extremely self-sheltered and sheltered us as well, so my father tried to make her happy by not teaching me how to be like him. I think that's the real reason why we never really talked about problems while growing up, etc. He didn't even let me play with stuff like cap guns & listen to rap music.

Even though I was being raised like a bitch, I observed his behavior. He ended up becoming an alcoholic and drug addict and became "emotionally abusive" toward my mother. He stopped working and stopped giving a fuck altogether, to be honest. Even though he ended up becoming a deadbeat, he had complete control over my mother's mind. I soaked all of it in.

Obviously, I learned how sneak around to do what I wanted to do, but growing up was tough. I had zero social skills, even though what he knew (the 60's-70's were waaay different than the 90's) probably wouldn't have made a difference by the time I became ready to talk to girls in school. When I was a late-teenager, I started to breakthrough. The only thing is that I was somewhat brainwashed into being a 'nice guy' because I didn't want to be an abuser like my dad. I went in the opposite direction. The cognitive dissonance was horrible. I knew that being nice wasn't great and that most girls weren't about much, but I couldn't bring myself to be an asshole.

I learned about game in the early '00s, which was a total epiphany. Eventually, I got over the feeling of 'not wanting to be like my dad'. Seeing how women act and looking back at their lives in hindsight made me look at him as different person. I guess the answer to the OP is yes and no. He was a mack and I payed attention to that, so he did help. However, he didn't teach me anything. I had to figure it out on my own. Now that I'm writing this out, maybe having to figure it out was the best thing for me.

Post: #41

My dad is a hippie, and thus is pretty much useless when it comes to women.

My brother and uncle on the other hand, seemed to know what was going on. I learned much more from them.

Post: #42

My father did pretty well in his day, however the 60's was a good time for men in general. He taught me alot of things but never about women, which is why I guess I was a slow learner.
Being black I was able to learn alot from my older peers on how to attract women.