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May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
Sorry, it's one of these terrible posts I said I'd never make. This isn't my main account (one of her friends is a PUA I think).

Met this Arab girl at happy hour with her and my friends. She's a solid 8.5, if not higher. Incredibly smart, great connection.

We go on a bunch of dates (too many of them are group dates due to the nature of how we met). She acts really into me, and all her friends tell me so when she is gone, too. They're really pushing for me.

She is generally reserved at first, but realllllly opens up after just one or two drinks. Finally spends the night at my place recently, but says she's on the rag, so not much happens.

I find out from an inside source that might be 'freaking out' because she feels we're approaching a junction (sex?) where a relationship could be a possibility. One of her friends thinks she's terrified of her feelings for me since we've only been hanging a few weeks. We were supposed to hang out this coming weekend and she's already cancelled letting me know via email this morning. I suggested something during the weekday and she basically put it off.

Of our many dates, she has NEVER cancelled nor turned down an opportunity to go out with me. This came out of nowhere. She also deactivated her online dating account (she told this to me on Friday) then reactivated it this morning. I called her on it in a playful way and she admitted it was 'addicting' and she liked 'reading peoples' self -descriptions'.

I know I should have closed the deal earlier. Logistics didn't lend themselves to that due to half of our meetings between our friends.

The consensus among my friends is that since she just go out of a relationship in September, the idea of connecting so well with someone so fast and so early is terrifying her and she wants some space to make sure she's not rushing into anything. A small minority think maybe I said something offensive/stupid during the weekend which turned her off to me.

My inside source tells me she isn't really saying anything bad about me, but that's she's looking for flaws and dealbreakers and freaking out about how much she likes (or liked?) me.

PLUSES:
-Says I'm attractive/hot/sexy a lot. A LOT.
-Says I'm witty, funny, and have great taste in music
-Supposedly I've made her break out of a pattern (kissing on first dates, her paying for stuff, etc)
-She told one of her friends that she's feels like she's floating on clouds when she thinks about me (this is after a first few dates, not the most recent sleepover)

Negatives:
-Says my bluntness/unPCness can be unsettling
-Cancelled our future weekend date, was wishwashy about hanging out during the week
-Noticably less gchat/texting since she spent the night last weekend
-Sex too late (not at all so far, actually). My inside source says that once she has sex with a guy she 'falls' so she avoids doing it any time soon.


I know you'll all rake me over the coals for this, but I actually find her personality absolutely charming and we have a very strong intellectual and emotional connection. The crazy physical chemistry doesn't hurt either (boner is an 11 on a 1-10 scale, very rare for me). I know I shouldn't put all my eggs in one basket, but a girl this gorgeous and cool is rare to find in DC. I'm bored of unpleasant 7's.

Any thought about how to play this? Should I give her some space and show less interest? Show MORE? (she's told me she liked me and I never reciprocated verbally, but I gave her a kiss instead).
11-07-2011 06:16 PM
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RE: May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
ItIsOneitis.

Find 5 other girls to work on so you stop caring so much about this one. The fact that you are putting so much thought into it and came here to type it all up says a lot. I know, I've been in that place too.

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11-07-2011 06:29 PM
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RE: May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
Too much girlie talk. She says Im fly..blah blah. Stop talking about her with friends and blow her ass off.
11-07-2011 06:32 PM
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It's definitely one-eyetis...or a troll!

Troll

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11-07-2011 06:46 PM
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RE: May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
This is why some mothers kill their young.
11-07-2011 06:54 PM
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Wait..
11-07-2011 07:03 PM
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RE: May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
The way you put her above you screams that she is already something of a lost cause.

And I am pretty sure you can tell that.

You probably know you're into damage repair zone right know, because the biggest mistake was already made, you're caring too much.

Yet, obviously, you're still into pursuing her. Some of them can do that to us.

As others have pointed out, the best way to hook up with one girl is to be already hooking up with other girls.

You unconsciously make her less attracted to you by valuing her so much. Historically, has that worked for you in the past?

My guess is you already know all the answers for this, you just want to hear them from someone else.

Roosh has written about this.

I'd say that the more you accept you already lost her, the more your chances increase of getting with her.

Thinking and worrying about her will do no good.

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11-07-2011 07:05 PM
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RE: May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
(11-07-2011 07:05 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  The way you put her above you screams that she is already something of a lost cause.

And I am pretty sure you can tell that.

You probably know you're into damage repair zone right know, because the biggest mistake was already made, you're caring too much.

Yet, obviously, you're still into pursuing her. Some of them can do that to us.

As others have pointed out, the best way to hook up with one girl is to be already hooking up with other girls.

You unconsciously make her less attracted to you by valuing her so much. Historically, has that worked for you in the past?

My guess is you already know all the answers for this, you just want to hear them from someone else.

Roosh has written about this.

I'd say that the more you accept you already lost her, the more your chances increase of getting with her.

Thinking and worrying about her will do no good.

Listen to this guy.
11-07-2011 08:33 PM
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RE: May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
(11-07-2011 07:05 PM)Amour Fou Wrote:  The way you put her above you screams that she is already something of a lost cause.

And I am pretty sure you can tell that.

You probably know you're into damage repair zone right know, because the biggest mistake was already made, you're caring too much.

Yet, obviously, you're still into pursuing her. Some of them can do that to us.

As others have pointed out, the best way to hook up with one girl is to be already hooking up with other girls.

You unconsciously make her less attracted to you by valuing her so much. Historically, has that worked for you in the past?

My guess is you already know all the answers for this, you just want to hear them from someone else.



I'd say that the more you accept you already lost her, the more your chances increase of getting with her.

Thinking and worrying about her will do no good.

This is what I needed to hear. I usually have a bunch of girls in rotation. This one caught me when I was in between 'groups' and I didn't bother to pick up new girls cause I was having a blast with this one.

I shan't make that mistake again.
11-07-2011 09:19 PM
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RE: May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
I can't quite put my finger on it, but this smells very trollish to me.

? Troll ?

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11-07-2011 10:23 PM
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RE: May have messed up with an incredible 8.5, need advice!
I don't know if these guys are trolls. They might just be super betas or guys just in the first few weeks of learning Game. It looks like trolling to us because we are on a different level of Game understanding. Some of these guys are still virgins and they are just looking for some advice...Or, I'm wrong, its a fucking troll!!
11-08-2011 12:16 PM
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I dunno, it takes a long long time to shed all the beta habits, and even then it's hard to flounder in case of bad luck, cold streak, mind games and etc. I wouldn't view most of these posts as trollish, although sometimes they are. It's just a slow process and it's hard because most are starting from zero.

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11-08-2011 03:21 PM
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(11-08-2011 03:21 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I dunno, it takes a long long time to shed all the beta habits, and even then it's hard to flounder in case of bad luck, cold streak, mind games and etc. I wouldn't view most of these posts as trollish, although sometimes they are. It's just a slow process and it's hard because most are starting from zero.
Well if who started this thread used his real ID and was just having a moment I would understand but to come out of the hole with all that nonsense as a first post is gay.

Hey guys....Sorry about this but Im Del Techanico and I fell in love with this girl at Burgerking and her manager says she's DTF and I call there 30 times a day but just hang up when she answers.......

Should I talk? Or keep hanging up?
Also the girls that work the shift after her said that she said that she likes my car and the fact that I order my burgers well done(good sign)...
Is it fate?
The managers girlfriend said that she likes ketchup and I know that is good for me because I do..blah ..blah..
11-08-2011 03:54 PM
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(11-08-2011 03:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  
(11-08-2011 03:21 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I dunno, it takes a long long time to shed all the beta habits, and even then it's hard to flounder in case of bad luck, cold streak, mind games and etc. I wouldn't view most of these posts as trollish, although sometimes they are. It's just a slow process and it's hard because most are starting from zero.
Well if who started this thread used his real ID and was just having a moment I would understand but to come out of the hole with all that nonsense as a first post is gay.

Hey guys....Sorry about this but Im Del Techanico and I fell in love with this girl at Burgerking and her manager says she's DTF and I call there 30 times a day but just hang up when she answers.......

Should I talk? Or keep hanging up?
Also the girls that work the shift after her said that she said that she likes my car and the fact that I order my burgers well done(good sign)...
Is it fate?
The managers girlfriend said that she likes ketchup and I know that is good for me because I do..blah ..blah..

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11-08-2011 04:59 PM
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(11-08-2011 03:54 PM)el mechanico Wrote:  
(11-08-2011 03:21 PM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  I dunno, it takes a long long time to shed all the beta habits, and even then it's hard to flounder in case of bad luck, cold streak, mind games and etc. I wouldn't view most of these posts as trollish, although sometimes they are. It's just a slow process and it's hard because most are starting from zero.
Well if who started this thread used his real ID and was just having a moment I would understand but to come out of the hole with all that nonsense as a first post is gay.

Hey guys....Sorry about this but Im Del Techanico and I fell in love with this girl at Burgerking and her manager says she's DTF and I call there 30 times a day but just hang up when she answers.......

Should I talk? Or keep hanging up?
Also the girls that work the shift after her said that she said that she likes my car and the fact that I order my burgers well done(good sign)...
Is it fate?
The managers girlfriend said that she likes ketchup and I know that is good for me because I do..blah ..blah..

lol lol

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11-08-2011 05:09 PM
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Gave me a good laugh too! And it's totally correct Big Grin

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