Post: #1

Lately I can't for the life of me calibrate my openers. All that pops in my head will be some comment that's really funny to me, but almost certainly going to massively piss the girl off. And these girls are usually in the looks range where negs just make them start crying and yelling at me rather than it being a bitch shield penetration.

Two Examples From Today:

Hippyish girl at Starbucks - "Man you really smell like one of those stores that sells wicker furniture. Also, I'd really be interested in hearing how you got that piece of shrapnel lodged in your nose."

Girl at pizza place - "Wow, giant crucifix necklace, slashy slashy marks on your forearms, AND red hair? You must really be crazy."

I'm not actually saying this, but it's what pops in my head and I can't think of anything else beyond the standard doofus lines then. Either I've turned into a worse misanthrope than ever, or women are just more ridiculous these days...

Post: #2

I LOLed. Maybe have a default back up, like you look really nice?

Post: #3

When you see a girl and you have a positive thing enter your head, that's when you know you should hit on her.

Post: #4

"Hi my name is Bortimus Prime, I saw you over here, thought you were cute and had to come and introduce myself"

might work better than "how you got that piece of shrapnel lodged in your nose"

Inside thoughts Bort, Inside thoughts.

Post: #5

I honestly don't think those are hard negs at all. But you seem to be in a left leaning area so be cautious.

In any case I'd probably just say those things but be obvious you're just commenting and sugar coat the hell out of it if they seem crazy.

Also try going for hotter girls who wouldn't mind.

Post: #6

(03-18-2019 12:26 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  Also try going for hotter girls who wouldn't mind.

Living in Portland I got a chuckle out of that.

Post: #7

(03-18-2019 12:24 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  "Hi my name is Bortimus Prime, I saw you over here, thought you were cute and had to come and introduce myself"

might work better than "how you got that piece of shrapnel lodged in your nose"

Inside thoughts Bort, Inside thoughts.

yeah, that's more my sort of simple opener for at least a few appraoches of the night if I can't think of something situational.
I guess it depends on your school of thought for one.
For example, I posted that sort of opener on a different forum in an FR once and practically laughed off of the forum and told it was 'very bad game' as it was 'showing too much interest' and that's why she rejected me, and I was supposed to hit her with a 'neg' on the open and then would have got her.

But someone like RSDJeffy who advises 'funny' openers that separate you from everyone might even like teh OP's openers!

Also probably depends on the girl and the location? I remember opening a girl once in the US with some comment about how she looks 'bright and happy like a cocker Spaniel' and she LOVED IT! So much so, in fact that, I used it on a few more US girls as my new default opener, both online and in person and it always got a great reaction from them.

I tried using the same line yesterday online on a Brit girl and she was like ''That's a weird thing to say'' and blocked me! haha

I think the idea of 'negs' ESPECIALLY with Brit girls and likely girls of other places might do more harm than good and put them on the 'defensive'.

OP - I'd experiment with breaking (some peoples) 'rules' and opening with a commpliment about something about her. Doesn't even have to be sincere. One of My 'natural' friend always seems to open girls with like ''I like your hat. What's up? How's your night going?'' Start a journal

Post: #8

I've had similar hit and misses with negs and funny, original openers Sub.

A lot depends on the girl. How smart she is, what sort of sense of humour she has, and her current mood, and your current attractiveness rating to her.

Pretty sure Brad Pitt could use the "how you got that piece of shrapnel lodged in your nose" and still bang the 10

One of my fave late night last minute drunken club spam approaches is: "Yes, no or Maybe?" while grinning and looking her in the eye. Not the best line, but its one you can use on 20 women in 2 mins and occasionally gets a fluke bang lol

After closing time, when you see the girls on the street, or sitting in the gutter on their phone (trying to get a booty call or a lift) just approach with " he will never love you like I can" while you point to the phone and deliver cocky grin.

Post: #9

I think I could make a genuine compliment even worse if I tried:

"Wow, you're so pretty. I mean, you could fart right in my face and I'd still be attracted to you. And I'm not saying this as one of those fart people that find farts inherently sexy, you know where some acne-ridden obese single mother of five farts on them and that boner is entirely fart-derived. Any other woman, I'm going to be totally disgusted by that, but you my dear could go full blast like a steamship horn."

Post: #10

(03-18-2019 04:53 AM)RatInTheWoods Wrote:  One of my fave late night last minute drunken club spam approaches is: "Yes, no or Maybe?" while grinning and looking her in the eye. Not the best line, but its one you can use on 20 women in 2 mins and occasionally gets a fluke bang lol

I'm stealing that now lol that shit is perfect for closing time at the bars.

Post: #11

I did a "You're not wearing nearly enough green" opener on a girl who was wearing all green for St. Pats. The girl looked offended and was a 7 on a good day.

Girls are sensitive, even more so in 2019 with snowflake culture. If you're opening with a neg or lightly sarcastic comment, do it on 8s or above. Then it looks ballsy and not like you're trying to put down a less attractive girl who already probably has low self esteem.

Post: #12

(03-20-2019 07:51 PM)Alpone Wrote:  I did a "You're not wearing nearly enough green" opener on a girl who was wearing all green for St. Pats. The girl looked offended and was a 7 on a good day.

Girls are sensitive, even more so in 2019 with snowflake culture. If you're opening with a neg or lightly sarcastic comment, do it on 8s or above. Then it looks ballsy and not like you're trying to put down a less attractive girl who already probably has low self esteem.

If a girl is unstable and mediocre or worse looking you have to seem soft and nice when making that sort of comment, or their brains cannot handle it. When you open them, be as disarming, jokey, and happy as you can(without being fake). If they are still melting down you dodged a bullet.

Post: #13

The way you wrote it, it definitely reads more as an insult than a neg. If you said: "I gotta say, you are so adorable. You look like you smell like one of those stores that sells wicker furniture." That would be much better. The comment is probably too much of an insult anyway though.

Post: #14

OP, sometimes stuff that you think is funny is not funny to girls. You probably need to chill out and be more "boring" with your approaches. 11 years ago when I used to run cocky & funny (who here remembers David DeAngelo? lols), I used to say some hilarious shit, but 99% of girls I approached thought I was insulting them. In truth, my lines were probably really good, but I likely came off as an asshole without realizing it. I suspect you're doing the same thing. You probably need to tone your shit way back and be more of a "nice" guy. You'd be surprised at how well "boring" lines can work on these hoes. At the very least, you should scale to the other end of the spectrum, open with boring lines like asking where the nearing coffee shop is, see what type of reactions you get, and recalibrate from there.

Maybe what you're saying is funny to yourself and other guys, but you're trying to get laid. You need to figure out how to talk to girls and what they respond to, not what you *think* works.

Post: #15

(03-22-2019 11:43 AM)travolta Wrote:  OP, sometimes stuff that you think is funny is not funny to girls. You probably need to chill out and be more "boring" with your approaches. 11 years ago when I used to run cocky & funny (who here remembers David DeAngelo? lols), I used to say some hilarious shit, but 99% of girls I approached thought I was insulting them. In truth, my lines were probably really good, but I likely came off as an asshole without realizing it. I suspect you're doing the same thing. You probably need to tone your shit way back and be more of a "nice" guy. You'd be surprised at how well "boring" lines can work on these hoes. At the very least, you should scale to the other end of the spectrum, open with boring lines like asking where the nearing coffee shop is, see what type of reactions you get, and recalibrate from there.

Maybe what you're saying is funny to yourself and other guys, but you're trying to get laid. You need to figure out how to talk to girls and what they respond to, not what you *think* works.

Yes, it's weird, but it can sometimes feel like all 'game' advise is actually wrong, or at least dependent on you living in a certain location or having a certain look or only for a certain type of girl etc.

A bit Like you mentioned, for Brit girls, I started to notice that I was better off (usually) coming over as almost a nice guy on my approach. A very non-threatening, safe, rapport seeking dude. Literally breaking all of the rules! And this is at night where the advice is usually to 'break rapport', 'be challenging', 'neg and tease her to build attraction at the open' etc.

But then you kind of think ''Wait. So am I even 'running game' right now???? Or am I just talking too a girl? Is it 'game' without the negging, routines, funny lines etcc???!!!''

Funny thing is that that worked in Vegas when I was there (although America girls are so damn approachable!), but here in my little chavy, high crime rate town in the UK, most 'game' is met with genuine hostility! You need to always adapt and don't believe everything you read. Even from 'experts'. They are not you. Yeah, I believe even your 'look' effects how you should run game. It's always self-optimised imo.

Post: #16

I'm a true asshole to the core. Reason being is I've been genuinely destroyed by several women in my early years and in general my life has been hard, so when it comes to girls I can talk to them rough or tell them in 'funny ways' they are stupid or not as beautiful as they think and It comes really natural to me. Still I'm not an asshole to everyone in every time.

You can't imagine how great asshole game works with a certain type of girls when it comes to pull them in and catch their interest. In my case it has been with stuck-up and really attractive girls who you may deem as 8s. Bear in mind Asshole game needs to be used intelligently and is not something I'd use to approach a girl unless she is really attractive and has that stuck-up look that I genuinely hate. I like my girls to be sweet and kind.

If you have value why use 'asshole game' anyways? As Travolta says boring and nice approaches would work better with girls if you are stuck and Game is whatever it works for you.

My thoughts on being an Asshole:
*It works great with stuck-up, toxic, arrogant and hot girls.
*Shouldn't be used with girls who are into you.
*I always smile or use an ironic tone to soften the insult. Most of the times it works. I'm a 'cool' asshole.
*Once again, don't over do it.
*Are you a true asshole? think about it, girls can pick if you are just a wanna-be.

To sum it all up, just like the song by N.W.A says, the title bitch don't apply to all women, but all women have a little bitch in 'em, we shouldn't be all assholes but we should all have a little asshole in us.

Rough translation of me being an asshole with girls I've already stablished some rapport, obviously in Spanish they sound different:

'You are kind of pretty but sometimes I wonder if there is any grey matter behind your eyes'

'You are cute and everything but think before speaking sweetly.'

'What's that big black stain you have on your arm, ops, sorry it's your tattoo, I think it looks really cool'

'Have you ever been called ugly? nah right? well I don't think you are ugly at all but you are not as cute as you think haha'

'hush sweetly, men are talking.'

'Are you going to have a new tattoo?, wow, where at? there at your lower back, I love those haha'

Those are the few I can recall, Hahaha I've had my fun with those bitches.

Post: #17

My opener is nearly always a comment on the surroundings (people, situations, interesting things), because I like to be observant. Indirect is always better when you're running Day Game or similar (girl at Starbucks, pizza place, etc.) Direct or high energy approach (incl negs) work better when the girl herself is already high energy i.e Night / Club Game, or at a music festival.