Post: #51

   

How does a girl like this not find a man (or woman if she's into that) to help give her purpose in life?

What a waste.

Post: #52

(02-01-2019 07:24 PM)Penta Sahi Wrote:  How does a girl like this not find a man (or woman if she's into that) to help give her purpose in life?

What a waste.

Imagine if internet social media platforms, internet gatekeepers were regulated as public utilities, and the addictive ones regulated much like the tobacco industry or food industry. I'm not advocating regulation, but imagine what happens if they regulate the platforms like they're toxic and addictive (because from a neuroscience and social standpoint they are). Things would change...

Depopulation agenda alongside propaganda promoting spinsterism, shaming heterosexuals is insidious and has much more effect on women than men, I believe.

San Francisco is a horrible place to live too, they are peddling so much bullshit there to normies (read: non-homo, who have aspirations other than career).

I suspect people are much more plugged into the matrix in SF than almost anywhere else in the world. It is a testing ground for Globalism 2.0 as well.

Post: #53

(02-01-2019 07:17 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  

(02-01-2019 06:46 PM)SaintLaurentJake Wrote:  It’s the ultimate first world problem, I get it. I often felt detached while in a room full of my favorite people; I also felt absolutely nothing during what should have been the happiest and darkest times in my life. No single conversation or situation has led me to make this decision, so at what point do you metaphorically pull the trigger? - TLC


Social Media probably played a big part in this along with societal expectations. People are more connected than ever through the web yet loneliness and isolation is on the rise in the developed world. Many friendships and relationships seem to be artificial and only exist because one party wants to extract or acquire something out of it for self-benefit. I have had this feeling before. Indeed it is a 1st World problem because if you notice, in less developed countries friendships and relationships are forged through true connection[/align] and care for one another, something that is becoming less prevalent in each day as social media cancer grows..



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli...559961002/

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style...11781.html

I’ve just started to get plugged into the thoughts of women that are on social media, and I can tell you it’s real troubling. Women have serious complexes—asked for the opinion of a close female friend— and confirmed how cognizant they are of needing validation from social media. In many cases they’re taking hundreds of photos for the one perfect one, and they pull it down if it doesn’t achieve their goal, as dumb as that may sound to us. This goes for men as well, I started asking millennial male friends about it, and I can tell they care almost as much, the younger they are the more conscious of it they are.

It’s somewhat funny that we’ve all banded together on this forum to actually achieve a real brotherhood, friendship, whatever you want to call it. Self-censorship is so onerous in my day-to-day life, I just take it as the new normal.

Friendships definitely seem more transactional, especially once you get outside of your first social circle and have to deal with transitions of moving, school, the workplace, and so on. I can’t tell you how autistic many millennials seem to me. It is a struggle holding conversation with many. In contrast, people older than myself are much easier to engage. Recently I’ve been having beers with some men 40+ and holy shit it’s just so enjoyable to shoot the shit with them. Some of them are keenly aware of the changes that are happening: their sons are addicted to instagram, video games, or internet porn. Many are astutely directionless, and the fathers have an awareness that things are no longer the same, and your life can be decided on a split-second decision from social media or one fuck-up. Shoot man, some of these older dudes crashed multiple cars, but never got arrested, much less were prevented from getting a job.

First world problems are of a different level of magnitude than 3rd world problems, but take a look at Japan, Korea, China, etc to see how much pressure there is on people to succeed at all times, much less confirm to rigid norms/ standards of behavior. Hell, the number of suicides there are astounding. That or men shut themselves in video game cafes or the home and never come out. Something like 1/3 of Japanese younger generation are sexless.

It’s official really: facebook, instagram, et al can do no wrong. The inflection point would have came long ago, but it didn’t. This is the new normal. The only thing that could change it is some massive global conflict, civil war, or shutdown of the internet.

I agree with a lot of what you said. In addition, marriage rates going down in the West, almost half of marriages ending in divorce, More Women told to put career first and attempting to marry Post-Wall, growing Western societal division via politics and gender equality, fearmongering present in Media to instill fear and increase viewership based on shock factor, LGBTQ agenda shoved down our throats to promote people to become transexuals ( even children) etc

As a result, cultures with traditional values ,(perhaps too traditional with honor killings and repressive laws) Sharia law dominated Muslim countries will out populate the West within the next 100 years.

Post: #54

(02-01-2019 11:04 AM)RIslander Wrote:  This story is pretty much made for this forum. NYC Dietitian, single and childless, posts a dramatic suicide note on her website before hanging herself. She had a great job and in my opinion nice looking. She has a slew of photos on her instagram and even her suicide note was a clear attempt at post death attention whoring.

I feel bad for her and her mother. I imagine she was medicated with anti-depressants and brainwashed into believing being an "independent childless woman" was the key to her happiness. Had she been born into a traditional patriarchal society she would probably be a happy wife and mother.

You're so lame and bitter lmao. Why does she need to have a child or partner to be happy? That is just beyond primitive thinking. Consider converting to Islam and moving to Egypt or Bangladesh. Those women over there are "happy" 5 kids, a mutilated vagina, and incapable of reading a menu. I actually respect women without children, the world is overpopulated. Thank You, educated and independent men/woman for making this world less shitty and not breeding. Rip to this woman.

Post: #55

Know Your Meme:

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/women-lau...with-salad

Post: #56

(02-01-2019 11:13 AM)Investment Bro Wrote:  It's just sad all around whenever you see something like this.

Poor woman. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be so alone. I don't know that the patriarchy would have saved her, but perhaps some genuine human kindness might have. Women need it, especially.

You can see it in her eyes. You can always tell when someone is genuinely happy from their eyes. There's no zest there. There's no life. No broader meaning. Children might have helped.

You can see the difference on her instagram. The picture of her with the two kids is the happiest she looks, even when compared to traveling, or GNOs and all that.

That said...

I wonder why her father isn't mentioned at all in any of these? I wonder what role that played?

We often don't know what is best for us, or even what makes us most happy. Without a community to support us or intense self-analysis, we are at risk of following her dark path.

Post: #57

(02-01-2019 03:31 PM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  Living in New York is a soul-sucking experience. I spent four years there getting a little more worn out every single day from the sheer ugliness of it all -- the dysfunction of the subway, the crap everywhere on the streets, the mindless pedestrians who cause traffic jams because they can't be bothered to wait five seconds for a red light, the antlike character of its globalized population -- and the fact that there's basically no escape from it if you're a person of ordinary means. Sure, there's lots of nice places to eat out. Lots of places to go shopping, if that's what you like. Then what? You're still an atomized Deep Fried Human Nugget in a fetid cage of urban grid.

It's not even like some big Asian cities where things are neat, the public transit works properly, and people behave themselves (or at least stay quiet and courteous).

I just moved out of NYC after a year and a half. I have to agree with the observation about vs Asian cities. After having visited the likes of Tokyo, Taipei, and Singapore, it's really hard to appreciate NYC. I always found myself comparing NYC to Asian cities and finding it very lacking, both in terms of the city infrastructure and the attractiveness of the women.

At the end of the day, it was very hard to buy into the notion that "NYC is the greatest city in the world."

(02-01-2019 07:48 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  San Francisco is a horrible place to live too, they are peddling so much bullshit there to normies (read: non-homo, who have aspirations other than career).

I suspect people are much more plugged into the matrix in SF than almost anywhere else in the world. It is a testing ground for Globalism 2.0 as well.

SF: the only place in the world where six-figure software engineers still need to live with roommates past age 30.

I do wonder if there's some broad, low-level mental illness for most young people living in both the SF bay area and NYC, due to both the globalist/feminist indoctrination and the cognitive dissonance between all the propaganda vs reality.

Propaganda: We are disrupting industries and changing the world! It's a gold rush!
Reality: Social media is just making people unhappy, and startups don't make the average worker rich.

Propaganda: SF is such a great city, one of the best in the world.
Reality: Pay $2000 to rent a room or $3000 a month for an old 1 br apartment, see homeless people defecating everywhere and breaking into your car.

Propaganda: NYC is such a great city! You have everything!
Reality: Subway can't run on time, stinks, and is full of trash. Need a lot of money to properly enjoy all the amenities.

Post: #58

Of the reason speculated for her suicide speculated, most of which I suspect are just the respective posters sentiments/frustrations with modern liberal Western society that they're projecting onto this suicide, all of them could've been easily reversed/circumvented:

1) She felt alienated due to social media: Solution: Pickup a fucking phone and talk to friend. Better yet go their house and talk face to face.
2) She was childless: Solution: Find a beta chode, act interested or find an alpha and poke hole in the condom.
3) No friends: Join a club, gym, or sports team(like Astoria Social).

So why do people on this thread feel bad? She did nothing to better her situation so I feel nothing but digust for her, so fuck her taking the coward's way out(same for any man).

On the bright side, she and David Carradine can swap tips on knot tying techniques in the afterlife.

Post: #59

(02-01-2019 03:18 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  I feel really uncomfortable speculating, such is the nature of modern times, that I feel like it plays into what's wrong with modern society, millisecond based judgements on limited facts, Instagram photos, etc.

It was only yesterday I was thinking of how bad it's going for people right now in the US--just so many people feeling empty and lacking larger purpose. This goes doubly for larger cities that are pressure-cookers for feeling like you're unable to keep up. That being said, no one is shedding tears for the Carnage happening to working class, and younger males in Middle America right now. It's indicative of a malaise in society. We've completely debased everything into consumerism and status contests. Anyway, the spirits of many in the cities are crushed. There's no meaning in their lives.

I keep drawing parallels to Russia after fall of the soviet Union. Massive alcoholism, drug use, suicides, violent crime, and people feeling utterly crushed. Theres really no excuse for this shit to be happening in the US. No one cares, politicians don't care, families are broken, there's no cohesion and anxiety and depression are increasing massively. Job market is screwed, and no I'm not gonna fucking code. It won't be long until coding is redundant too. The trend is disturbing and it will get much worse.

SSRIs and Xanax are being handed out like candy but they don't treat the root cause, which is a decline society where there is no spiritual, no metaphysical, no grand narrative. Self hating nihilism and a lack of proper traditionalist values were pushed by marxists, deviating us from our path to meaning and truth. I encourage everyone to do themselves a favor, and call up friends family, etc. Support systems are there for a reason. Get off social media, Netflix, etc; volunteer and help someone out, maybe an old person. Change starts at the individual level, and we have to bring back some cohesion rather than callous indifference to our neighbors and fellow humans.

My condolences.

If she was married and pregnant, 90% likely that all those things would have been swept away. Sure, being depressed can be hell when you have kids, but in the vast majority of cases the pregnancy sweeps away all that.

So I will say again: married and pregnant, she would be alive and well. Rich or poor, SF or Toledo, white or black, doesn't matter. Women are made by nature to make babies. Get them working on babies and the rest resolves itself.

Post: #60

(02-01-2019 08:40 PM)ben123 Wrote:  You're so lame and bitter lmao. Why does she need to have a child or partner to be happy? That is just beyond primitive thinking. Consider converting to Islam and moving to Egypt or Bangladesh. Those women over there are "happy" 5 kids, a mutilated vagina, and incapable of reading a menu. I actually respect women without children, the world is overpopulated. Thank You, educated and independent men/woman for making this world less shitty and not breeding. Rip to this woman.

Are you female?

Post: #61

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No, just logical. You must have a third world peasant mentality.

Post: #62

Goddamn. I am happy I waited until after work was over to read this, it would have ruined my day.

What a waste. Maybe she wasn't "beautiful", but she's attractive enough for most men to consider her solidly pretty. Nice chest, nice legs, nice hair, nice everything - she's even got that swarthy possibly-Mediterranean look going on that I like so much. She probably would have been a wonderful mother.

If women like this, who probably have friends and loads of sex waiting for them, are offing themselves...how bad is it really in the incel community? It's probably far worse than we think.

I am stunned by how much that suicide note affected me. We really have a lot of work to do to fix up the culture.

Post: #63

Are you female?
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No, just logical. You must have a third world peasant mentality.
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I agree with MrLemon, you sound like a chick.

If you really feel that way, you should move to Japan. An entire country with similar views as yours, declining birthrate and fewer families. Many people there live empty lives and have a lack of human connection.

Japan also has a high suicide rate. It's no coincidence. In fact, it is the leading cause of death among women age 15-34 in that country. I think that statistic relates to this story eerily enough.

Post: #64

Quote:I have written this note several times in my head for over a decade, and this one finally feels right. No edits, no overthinking.

Given this line appears at the start of the suicide note like the attention-grabbing first line of a shit NYT article or made-to-house-style book, this pretty much is a lie, and has been both carefully edited and way overthought.

Let's leave aside it was left on the front page of her own domain, her own website, i.e. her own identity. I've heard of people rehearsing their suicides, but who rehearses and edits their suicide note in their brain?

Short answer: someone who wants to be seen as something. Even, and especially, after they're dead; after all, she's talking about going home to Dad afterward, this is an attempt to control her narrative, her story, she thinks she'll go on (note no religion in this. For Western men and women God at best looks exactly like you and approves of everything you do.)

The impetus that drove her to kill herself and write this disgusting piece of self-obsession as her last act is the same impetus that created Rachel Dolezal, transracialism, and most transgender children: it is a desire to hold one's story against all reality, force the world to accept it against all the facts.

Quote: I often felt detached while in a room full of my favorite people; I also felt absolutely nothing during what should have been the happiest and darkest times in my life. No single conversation or situation has led me to make this decision, so at what point do you metaphorically pull the trigger?

Very simply, you pull the trigger when all your efforts to make the world accept the brand you are putting out fail.

Emotional flat affect is standard if the Borderline Personality Disorder drugs you're taking are working. If your doctor has fucked up your SSRIs, emotional flat affect is a possibility also.

But given the feeling of detachment in a room full of "my favourite people" (note the terminology: not family, not friends - 'favourite people') -- then I tend to think standard-grade Western Narcissism was at work here. Narcissism is essentially the man in the glass box, where everyone in the world is just an extra where you are the main character. You can tell the most obvious narcissists as the ones who hated the ending of The Sopranos with a passion. Death is precisely as The Sopranos ended: cut to black, no curtain call, no swelling final theme, no end credits. The main character of a movie can't handle that.

So instead we get this: a suicide note posted for the entire world to see -- as well as a suicide note that she wrote for those who found her. She wrote her final act and her final credits. And with the fuckheads at Fox News doing this, she is succeeding in forcing the world to accept that brand. The better thing would have been to ignore this story outright.

God save us from people who mean well. -storm

Post: #65

I hate to say it but the fact that she identified San Fransisco as being the greatest city on Earth says a great deal about what was probably going wrong. I hope that she has found the happiness and purpose that she was unable to know in this life.

Post: #66

(02-01-2019 03:31 PM)Lunostrelki Wrote:  Living in New York is a soul-sucking experience. I spent four years there getting a little more worn out every single day from the sheer ugliness of it all -- the dysfunction of the subway, the crap everywhere on the streets, the mindless pedestrians who cause traffic jams because they can't be bothered to wait five seconds for a red light, the antlike character of its globalized population -- and the fact that there's basically no escape from it if you're a person of ordinary means. Sure, there's lots of nice places to eat out. Lots of places to go shopping, if that's what you like. Then what? You're still an atomized Deep Fried Human Nugget in a fetid cage of urban grid.

It's not even like some big Asian cities where things are neat, the public transit works properly, and people behave themselves (or at least stay quiet and courteous).

Yet so many guys keep saying that NY is the greatest city in the US or even in the world. Usually those who have never lived in NY, maybe just visited a few times.

Post: #67

(02-01-2019 12:34 PM)RawGod Wrote:  And 20 young men killed themselves the same day. They didn't have Instagram or write suicide notes full of shitlib pablum.

It's sad that this girl committed suicide, but she's getting 10X more attention than she deserves even now that she's dead. It was probably the same while she was alive.

If a man kills himself, any man except for a major celebrity, nobody will give a fuck. Some people will call him a loser, the rest wont' even pay attention.

Post: #68

I don’t know why the suicide can be explained by feminism, patriarchy, Soros, or aliens. Some people have depressed brains and they give up.

Post: #69

The ugly explanation I strongly suspect that no one wants to acknowledge: Some people, no matter the external stimuli present in their lives, are incapable of feeling happiness or contentment. Their brains are just broken in a way that current technology cannot fix.

Not saying it's implausible that this woman would've found joy in building a family rather than being your basic world trekking "foodie," but it's certainly jumping to conclusions without evidence. I mean she was only 27 years old and attractive; she had the time and value to lock down a decent man and pop out a couple of kids before hitting 35, if she chose to make it a priority.

The father being dead couldn't have helped matters.

I just hesitate to try and use this tragedy to advance our cause without really knowing what did her in.

Post: #70

(02-01-2019 01:17 PM)Dusty Wrote:  Cute feminine girl. Sad story.

What struck me about her note and Instagram pics is how obsessed she was with food.

That's not at all unique.

Post: #71

Women’s lives have always been more valued by society. This is nothing new.

Post: #72

Are you female?
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No, just logical. You must have a third world peasant mentality.
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Third world peasant girls don't commit suicide. That's the point that has totally eluded you.

Post: #73

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I agree with MrLemon, you sound like a chick.

If you really feel that way, you should move to Japan. An entire country with similar views as yours, declining birthrate and fewer families. Many people there live empty lives and have a lack of human connection.

Japan also has a high suicide rate. It's no coincidence. In fact, it is the leading cause of death among women age 15-34 in that country. I think that statistic relates to this story eerily enough.
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Nice cock riding looking for a rep boost lmao? Japan, South Korea, Latvia fine with me. They have 10x the quality of life compared to some sewer rats who have their kids running around prostituting themselves or getting married at 12 years old. Look at the countries with the lowest birthrate and then the highest. Regarding suicide in Japan, who cares tons of people live happy, satisfying and normal lives aswell. That's like saying if I move to the U.S, I'll become obese and die of heart disease.

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Third world peasant girls don't commit suicide. That's the point that has totally eluded you.
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Probably have access to so few materials and are always under guard by the 20+ people who live in their 40m accommodations.

Post: #74

It seems to me everyone is reading into her suicide a bit too deep and over analysing.

It reminds me we truly are 'spiritual beings living a human experience.'

Some are old souls in young bodies and just know when its time to leave this human experience to move on to other things.

That is the main thing I read from her note.

I wish her well on her new journey and would rather let her be alone and in peace.

oh and maybe do one of her final requests -- have a really nice meal on her behalf.

Post: #75

(02-01-2019 07:24 PM)Penta Sahi Wrote:  How does a girl like this not find a man (or woman if she's into that) to help give her purpose in life?

What a waste.

In most parts of America that girl is a situational 8.

Like most 8s she thought she was entitled to a professional athlete, billionaire playboy, or celebrity.