Post: #26

Post: #27

Anything following the words "a histrionic faggot said" can safely be dismissed as bullshit.

Post: #28

Well this is just great. I always keep an emergency noose and some emergency bleach in my ute but I guess now I'll have to risk getting around without them in case I get pulled over in faggot country and charged with conspiracy to beat faggots.

Post: #29

What the hell is "Empire"? Is it like a TV show?

Post: #30

Michelle Malkin just posted a column about this at V-Dare. She comes to the same conclusions we did here.

Specifically, she wonders what someone would be doing wandering around liberal Chicago at 2 a.m. with bleach and rope claiming it's "MAGA country." Is Michelle getting her ideas from this forum? Or is it just very evident that all of this sounds like badly-written fiction?

Either way, skepticism of this alleged crime is becoming more widespread. Malkin's column can be found here.

Update: As of 1 a.m. Eastern Time, the hourly radio news reported that "police have so far not found any video that shows a crime, only video of Smollett walking alone."

Post: #31

The HodgeTwins are popular YouTubers that recently "came out" as conservative and have been facing a ton of liberal backlash for it.

These guys are former army and red pill as fuck, even they're calling bullshit

Post: #32

White dudes recognizing actors from Empire would be like black dudes recognizing actors from Vikings

Post: #33

(01-29-2019 06:48 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  [quote='armenia4ever' pid='1931138' dateline='1548805156']
I'm gonna call BS. Its fucking freezing all around the Chicagoland area.

What has been happening crime wise is theft over coats. Yes coats. People are being held up at gunpoint and forced to give up their coats - CanadaGoose in particular. Basically luxury winter coats that cost over 1k.

How much you want to bet this guy was flashing one and attracted the wrong kind of attention? Maybe he tried to refuse and they beat him. Just a theory though

The rest of the details I've seen online about this guys beating all seem staged... almost like a plot out of Empire.

Maybe will find out in a few weeks it was all just a publicity stunt.

Agreed on the temperature there. It's like 30 below without wind chill, and 50 below with it. They're saying Chicago is colder than Antarctica or the top of Mount Everest. People are worrying about what to do when their furnaces don't make enough heat to keep the house warm at these extreme temperatures. There weren't any guys going around beating people up in that weather!
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Everything about this story just doesn’t add up. One thing I know is that when the temps get this cold like they are the crime levels drop big time. Street criminals do not hang out at 2:00am at street corners when the wind chill factor is minus 30 below zero, even in crime infested Chicago. The whole thing about being in MAGA country is pure BS. Chicago is 95 percent liberal democrat and the only conservatives are in the far outer counties.

Post: #34

I'm really looking forward to this being exposed as a hoax, and Whoopi Goldberg asking, "Why do we keep making the same mistake?"

Post: #35

(01-30-2019 02:43 AM)MKE-Ed Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 06:48 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  [quote='armenia4ever' pid='1931138' dateline='1548805156']
I'm gonna call BS. Its fucking freezing all around the Chicagoland area.

What has been happening crime wise is theft over coats. Yes coats. People are being held up at gunpoint and forced to give up their coats - CanadaGoose in particular. Basically luxury winter coats that cost over 1k.

How much you want to bet this guy was flashing one and attracted the wrong kind of attention? Maybe he tried to refuse and they beat him. Just a theory though

The rest of the details I've seen online about this guys beating all seem staged... almost like a plot out of Empire.

Maybe will find out in a few weeks it was all just a publicity stunt.

Agreed on the temperature there. It's like 30 below without wind chill, and 50 below with it. They're saying Chicago is colder than Antarctica or the top of Mount Everest. People are worrying about what to do when their furnaces don't make enough heat to keep the house warm at these extreme temperatures. There weren't any guys going around beating people up in that weather!
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Everything about this story just doesn’t add up. One thing I know is that when the temps get this cold like they are the crime levels drop big time. Street criminals do not hang out at 2:00am at street corners when the wind chill factor is minus 30 below zero, even in crime infested Chicago. The whole thing about being in MAGA country is pure BS. Chicago is 95 percent liberal democrat and the only conservatives are in the far outer counties.

"People are worrying about what to do when their furnaces don't make enough heat to keep the house warm at these extreme temperatures."

This probably makes the best point of all. Crime tends to disappear during cold snaps and snowstorms. Even Baltimore's murder-a-day roll call came to a halt last year when it got super cold.

By the way, the way I keep the house warm is to center activity around only the kitchen and living room. In the living room I use a space heater to take the strain off the main heating system and I heat the kettle on the stove to boiling point every few hours. Not only does the stove heat up the kitchen/living room area, but the extra humidity helps. From what I've noticed, humidity seems to hold heat better than dry air does.

We're not as cold as Chicago here on the East Coast, but I've heard about HVAC systems failing when temperatures drop, so I make sure mine doesn't have to run 24/7 by doing the above.

Post: #36

(01-30-2019 07:30 AM)Days of Broken Arrows Wrote:  

(01-30-2019 02:43 AM)MKE-Ed Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 06:48 PM)RoastBeefCurtains4Me Wrote:  [quote='armenia4ever' pid='1931138' dateline='1548805156']
I'm gonna call BS. Its fucking freezing all around the Chicagoland area.

What has been happening crime wise is theft over coats. Yes coats. People are being held up at gunpoint and forced to give up their coats - CanadaGoose in particular. Basically luxury winter coats that cost over 1k.

How much you want to bet this guy was flashing one and attracted the wrong kind of attention? Maybe he tried to refuse and they beat him. Just a theory though

The rest of the details I've seen online about this guys beating all seem staged... almost like a plot out of Empire.

Maybe will find out in a few weeks it was all just a publicity stunt.

Agreed on the temperature there. It's like 30 below without wind chill, and 50 below with it. They're saying Chicago is colder than Antarctica or the top of Mount Everest. People are worrying about what to do when their furnaces don't make enough heat to keep the house warm at these extreme temperatures. There weren't any guys going around beating people up in that weather!
[/quote

Everything about this story just doesn’t add up. One thing I know is that when the temps get this cold like they are the crime levels drop big time. Street criminals do not hang out at 2:00am at street corners when the wind chill factor is minus 30 below zero, even in crime infested Chicago. The whole thing about being in MAGA country is pure BS. Chicago is 95 percent liberal democrat and the only conservatives are in the far outer counties.

"People are worrying about what to do when their furnaces don't make enough heat to keep the house warm at these extreme temperatures."

By the way, the way I keep the house warm is to center activity around only the kitchen and living room. In the living room I use a space heater to take the strain off the main heating system and I heat the kettle on the stove to boiling point every few hours. Not only does the stove heat up the kitchen/living room area, but the extra humidity helps. From what I've noticed, humidity seems to hold heat better than dry air does.

We're not as cold as Chicago here on the East Coast, but I've heard about HVAC systems failing when temperatures drop, so I make sure mine doesn't have to run 24/7 by doing the above.

Up here in canada we get cold winters every year so we are prepared to a certain degree.
My cousin works in Hvac and has told me the majority of systems installed in newer homes (after 2000) are trash, cheap materials, parts, workmanship. The manufacturers build low quality products that break often to keep selling them new parts.

Wherever i live i always try to get a place with small windows and a small amount of them. In winter you lose soooo much heat through windows regardless if they are triple panned Pela windows or some crap on sale from home depot.
Best bet is to put heavy blankets over the windows. I've found this works best for those cold snaps.

Back on topic.

When i heard the information he was at subway at 2am on a monday night by himself. I'm thinking what a loser this guy is....
But when i read he was gay i automatically thought gay hookup went bad or some variation of "high risk homosexual encounter".

Its kinda like if you go out to the club on a night with shitty weather, you know the girls at the clubs are looking for dick.
Why else would this man go to subway at 2am when there are like a million food ordering apps. Never mind this guy being on a decently popular tv show so we know he can afford it.

Chicago has ubereats, grub hub and doordash. Why is this dumbass leaving the house for subway, in the middle of the night when its 30 below?!

My money is on some weird gay hookup shit gone wrong.

Post: #37

Listen up honeys and all you fucking white males, don a MAGA hat son and brag about your new gun, I'm a spit a story backwards, it starts at the end.

The noose came off his neck and back into my hand, the bleach splashed back into the bottle, the cap twisted back on again.

His hands up like and he say 'racist and homophobic that's'. just after my man Thad Chad Johnson says 'nigga Empire faggot, that you aren't?' as he puts on his MAGA hat.

Thad say 'country MAGA is this faggot' after Empire faggot said 'him get will Mueller, bitch'

We walkin' backwards on the street, I say 'cold fuckin' it's' and Thad says 'minorities many too there's, shit'.

I walk backwards and to my building stoop where I throw Thad my noose after he say 'noose the got?' and I make an 'ok!' sign and say 'MAGA, pede up what's?'

Back up the steps to my pad, my cell rings my man Thad, saying 'block our on faggot's Empire' wanna give a taste of MAGA to that commie scum he say 'beer your finish you after, come'

An empty Yuengling pulls out of the blue bin and into my hand, I spit beer back into the bottle, thinking about this young thing who left, just a few minutes ago.

She kiss me and say 'bad man orange!', I slap her ass and say 'storage, in AK's my' cuz she say 'gun that needs one no' cuz I said 'crime black on black much too there's, yo'.

She jumps into my arms and we walk back to the bed, she jumps on the bed and my pants drop, spits a nut back into my dick and says 'supporter Trump another fucked I believe can't I, shit'.

I say 'pussies for is soy' and she laughs cutesy and coy.

'on hat MAGA your with me fuck' she says the red hat jumps on my head, and she gives her legs a spread.

Milliseconds turn to seconds which turn to minutes and I'm alone, save for a knock at the door and a voice saying 'home?'

The clock ticks back from twelve to eleven to ten, that's about the time this story began, a call from my man Thad on my voicemail.

'Mother fucker...this TDS Empire faggot is in town...he right here at Subway, he right there...its freezing out and no one will be out...lets bleach and lynch this fucker...'

Post: #38

Here is video from Tim Pool, a Chicago Native, about the attack.



As stated from the video, the neighbor that actor was attacked is wealthy neighborhood filled with private security. Someone will have footage of the attack or attackers in the area. The area also has nothing going on after 6 pm sounds about right to me as someone that has lived in Second City. The only thing a man is going to be doing at 2 am is getting drunk, getting laid, or going home. Another thing to note from the video is the timeline of events as the moment TMZ reported the attack, the victim change his story to collaborate with the information from TMZ. Once again, this entire thing is bullshit.

Post: #39

I keep waiting for the news to come out that it's been proven fake. I hope he loses his acting job for this shit.

Post: #40

As Ann Coulter said recently about famous rape accusations: "Can we not get a real one every now and again?"

Post: #41

If the police are serious about investigating this, they should ask for his Tinder & Grindr activity records/history for that night. If he refuses to provide it, then that will be a bit of a red flag.

Post: #42

“White dudes recognizing actors from Empire would be like black dudes recognizing actors from Vikings”. Because whites dont watch predominantly black shows and vice versa.

Post: #43

Some Reasons Why I Don't Believe Him

1. The attack allegedly occurred in the Streeterville neighborhood. This is downtown and is one of the most dense neighborhoods in the entire city, one of the 3 largest cities in the country. it is also one of the most heavily policed and heavily surveilled neighborhoods in the city with both private and street security cameras out the wazoo. If some black guy got jumped by a couple of skinheads or something and had a noose put around his neck while they shouted slurs and MAGA lines as if reading from a CNN teleprompter, someone would have certainly seen it and probably uploaded a vertical video to Youtube by now, especially since anyone shouting such things in the ever-crowded downtown of far left Chicago would surely draw a lot of attention. Further, an attack such as the one he described would need at least a couple of minutes to be carried out, in which time someone would have witnessed it.

2. If he had genuinely been the victim of two balaclava-wearing noose-carrying skinheads or whatever, I suspect that they would have done more than just break one of his ribs. If someone hates you enough to jump you and put a noose around your neck, they are going to break more than a single rib, especially if you are a fragile and delicate flower like this guy appears to be.

3. Who watches Empire? More specifically, what white people who don't like black people would tune in to watch a show which almost exclusively features black people frequently or long enough to learn who he is and become familiar enough with him (he doesn't even seem to play the main character) that they can pick him out of a crowd of literally millions of other black dudes in Chicago? How would these alleged skinheads or whatever they are supposed to be written as recognize him and how would they know where he would be in such a large city (unless they were just randomly wandering around Chicago with a noose which would be insane)?

4. The "genders" of the attackers are unknown? Seriously? We don't know whether or not it was a couple of females who bare-handedly whooped this guy's ass to the point that he needed to be hospitalized overnight? If this were a real violent hate crime involving a noose perpetrated by two white males in a majority black city, does anyone seriously believe that every media outlet in the entire Western World would not be jumping on it like a Hooters girl on a millionaire's dick?

5. This is Chicago. Even the white racists are liberal leftists. I very much doubt that there were two masked noose-carrying white guys wandering around on foot and alone while spouting off MAGA lines as if they were reading a CNN teleprompter and without even so much as even a knife or pistol with which to protect themselves from all the people who would easily be able to distinguish them as outsiders and who would not be pleased with their behavior or, likely, even their presence. Even if they did beat up this guy for his race, I doubt that they would shout anti-gay slurs and MAGA stuff, especially in downtown, probably the most liberal area of Chicago which is, again, a very left-leaning city.

6. It is well known that, on average, the black population in the US, particularly those who are more thuggishly inclined, does not tend to be very friendly toward LGBT people. Famous gay black guys themselves very often say as much in interviews. Since it seems that this attack, assuming it was targeted and not random, was mostly if not exclusively about his sexuality as opposed to his race, I think it is more likely that he got jumped by some black thugs who recognized him from the TV as opposed to a couple of unarmed white guys who probably have never seen Empire randomly skulking around downtown Chicago with a noose as if to say "Hey everyone around, we are the embodiment and physical manifestation of everything you hate and we don't even have a weapon to defend ourselves with so, if you want to bash the fasch, here is your chance."

7. In over 24 hours (this allegedly happened on Tuesday at 2am), the police were not able to find any images of him in which he is not just standing alone by himself on any of the many many security cameras in the area where the attack was supposed to have occurred. Given that Streeterville is one of the densest and most surveilled neighborhoods in an already very dense and heavily surveilled city, this makes me suspicious.

8. Elephant in the room: who commits virtually 100% of all the violent crime in Chicago? Random unarmed white people who are apparently so un-masculine and un-imposing that we don't even know their gender, or the other demographic that we are all thinking of?

9. Suspicious timing coinciding with a near media blackout (at least leftist media) around another big issue occurring at exactly the same time, namely that New York just legalized abortion up to the moment of birth. This seems like a manufactured distraction.


I of course cannot say for sure what happened because I wasn't there but it sounds like he is an actor primarily known for his role as a minor supporting character in a show that not many people outside of its target demographic know anything about who either got jumped by some thugs and is trying to spin it as something else in order to get himself into the spotlight where he would not otherwise likely be or he hurt himself somehow and that is why the police, despite their best efforts and all of the pressure that is surely on them, are unable to find any evidence to suggest that he was ever not standing around alone, much less being hate crimed in the downtown of the 3rd largest city in the country during the time when the clubs, bars, and other nighttime venues (each one packed with potential witnesses) start emptying out.

*Alternative Possibility: Maybe he met someone from Grindr and had a bad time but saying that he was hate crimed sounded better when the admitting nurses at the hospital asked him how his rib got broken and he is just rolling with it now.

Post: #44

(01-30-2019 08:14 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  .

Why else would this man go to subway at 2am when there are like a million food ordering apps.

Why to chow down on some footlong ofcourse!

Post: #45

The hoax is in!

Quote:Chicago police say they've reviewed hundreds of hours of footage from downtown surveillance cameras but haven't found footage yet of the alleged attack on "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett.

http://www.fox35orlando.com/entertainmen...re-actor-1

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Post: #47

Gee I don't think this guy likes Donald Trump very much.

Post: #48

I predict Smollett will admit it was a hoax within 24 hours and the story will be forgotten about immediately.

Post: #49

(01-30-2019 08:14 AM)kinjutsu Wrote:  But when i read he was gay i automatically thought gay hookup went bad or some variation of "high risk homosexual encounter".

Its kinda like if you go out to the club on a night with shitty weather, you know the girls at the clubs are looking for dick.
Why else would this man go to subway at 2am when there are like a million food ordering apps. Never mind this guy being on a decently popular tv show so we know he can afford it.

Chicago has ubereats, grub hub and doordash. Why is this dumbass leaving the house for subway, in the middle of the night when its 30 below?!

My money is on some weird gay hookup shit gone wrong.

Don't these actors also have big insurance policies? Degenerate High-risk homo encounter and/or drug use/deal gone wrong, probably realized illicit drug use would result in a denied claim. Bleach to wipe evidence of body fluids/blood/drugs.

Probably realized he told different stories to different parties and decided to save his ass and politicized it adding "MAGA COUNTRY" for sympathy/brownie points and lessen scrutiny.

Well that backfired...

Post: #50

(01-29-2019 09:42 PM)vinman Wrote:  He was also a "victim" of threats by mail on the set with suspicious white powder in the envelope not too long ago

Seems like a lot of people want to off this minor supporting actor nobody's ever heard of from a show that is only watched for 2 minutes at a time by ratchet African American single mothers during the breaks between blocks of the shows they are actually watching on TMZ and OWN because they can't skip the commercials.

Edit: I just checked. Apparently, a lot of people actually watch Empire. I don't have a TV and I feel out of touch now.