Post: #1

This is happening more and more with me. Ill meet a girl who is in her late 20s (I'm 24) and she tells me right away I'm to young. I look like I'm about 19 so I'm sure that isn't helping here. I can usually spit my game and get girls out on a date even with that obstacle. We get drinks, I work my game, get some kissing and touching going and sometimes I can fuck...sometimes I can't. Now, every time I can't fuck I get a text "you're cute but just to young" or something along those lines.

Had a date a few days ago with a real cute 28 yr old bitch. She kept telling me I was young and making jokes the days leading up. We go out to get some drinks and its going good. I'm touching on her and we're kissing but I have to leave. Her friends are meeting her so no big deal. 20 min later "ur cute and sweet houston. Ur to young though lol".

I have no problem with 18-24 and old school MILFs but everything in between isn't working out. Should I just forget that age group? I'm pissed because I know I can fuck these girls but I'm doing something wrong and don't know what it is.

Post: #2

Late 20's means she's looking for a husband and you just ain't husband material to her.

Keep banging out the 18-24 year olds for as long as you can. If you're smart you'll keep them around
as fuck buddies til you get to 30.

You can scam on the late 20's girls when you're 32ish. Hopefully you'll have a nice house or apartment
and your career in order. Just play the marriage material game then.

Post: #3

Quote:I have no problem with 18-24 and old school MILFs.

The problem is that women in your targeted age range (late 20s, early 30s) are in the "marriage zone." They're looking for a husband. An LTR. A wedding. They realize that they're SMV is declining and want to catch a husband while they're still attractive enough. If you have super mad game, then maybe you can bed them, but more likely than not, they're not going to waste their time with younger guys since they know younger guys aren't relationship material and won't commit.

What are you doing wasting your time with older chics? Do you know how many guys are desperate to get women in the 18-24 y.o. age range but can't pull, yet you're successful at gaming the most highly women in demand in the SM?

And as far as cougars, milfs, and older women, they know that the ship has sailed, and, therefore don't mind banging a young guy who they know won't stick around.

Post: #4

Shit, I'm just tired of 18-24 yr olds. They're cool but I want something else and I love how the late 20s are in bed. I want a "grown woman" if that makes sense.

I feel uncomfortable when the they tell me about their degree and all that while I'm struggling to pay rent with my job and college classes. This last girl who said I was to young told me she usually goes for guys 30+. I'm going to be doing some real damage in my 30's (career, look about 8 yrs younger, so much experience).

Post: #5

houston -

I think we have talked about it before, I had the same issue.

Just swoop 18-22 year olds.

Get your fill of them while you can.

"I'm going to be doing some real damage in my 30's (career, look about 8 yrs younger, so much experience)."

Exactly.

That is the spirit.

And you will.

Keep punching.

Post: #6

(10-08-2011 08:26 PM)houston Wrote:  Shit, I'm just tired of 18-24 yr olds. They're cool but I want something else and I love how the late 20s are in bed. I want a "grown woman" if that makes sense.

I feel uncomfortable when the they tell me about their degree and all that while I'm struggling to pay rent with my job and college classes. This last girl who said I was to young told me she usually goes for guys 30+. I'm going to be doing some real damage in my 30's (career, look about 8 yrs younger, so much experience).

Dude I'll warm you right now. You're body goes all out of whack after 25. Make you sure you keep your diet and exercise straight as you get to 30. It'll help to keep you focused with women, career-wise ...etc.

Post: #7

Parlay44 - I'm already on it. I will NEVER let myself fall apart. Even with school and work, I find time to jog and hit the weights.

Gmanifesto - wise words. I'm already halfway there because of my looks with these older sluts. I can only imagine how I'll look in 10 yrs.

Post: #8

Houston -

One more thing:

Swooping young girls at your age (the 18-22 set) is like investing in your Playboy future.

Those girls will get older (and some will stay fly, or get flyer) and you can swoop them again down the road again.

When you get older, you can work off of your book of business.

Think, in 10 years the 18 year old you swoop today will be 28.

Swoop her again.

Win-Win.

Post: #9

Bro. Marriage age my ass. Wehn I was your age the majority of my girls were in the 28-32 range. You're coming off too innocent and naive. Figure out what she's into and talk about it with some authority. Treat her like a little girl, talk down to her, argue with her and make her feel dumb.

On a side note, I'm pretty plastered right now about to hit up a fine ass little chica. Hope you guys are out getting into some trouble. Bottoms up!

Post: #10

I'm with Feo. Chicks 25+ are awesome b/c the most annoying aspects of their immaturity has usually worn off. They're no different from the younger girls. If they fall in love, they'll want to lock you down for a relationship. If not, they screw around like everyone else.

Post: #11

(10-08-2011 09:09 PM)thegmanifesto Wrote:  Houston -

One more thing:

Swooping young girls at your age (the 18-22 set) is like investing in your Playboy future.

Those girls will get older (and some will stay fly, or get flyer) and you can swoop them again down the road again.

When you get older, you can work off of your book of business.

Think, in 10 years the 18 year old you swoop today will be 28.

Swoop her again.

Win-Win.

Genius.

@Houston, if looking too young with them is a problem, grow your facial hair out.

Post: #12

You're to young= milf shit test. blow it off. She looking for you to try and sell yourself. Play cool and plow away.

When I was your age I used to hear that all the time. Just keep talking like you never heard it.

Post: #13

If all you want to do is pump and dump then why not just lie? Problem solved.

Works great on younger girls too.

Post: #14

El Mechanico said it right. I am not as active in the game as i was last year but i used to hear that a lot, i would ignore it and proceed with the game. Or play it by her lines, ''yeah im young but you can always rape me, you peadoephile''..it depends on the moment, but if she is a freak i would make it as sexual as it can be (with that sexual tone). Be persuasive and know how to ignore certain emotions and you will be fine.

Post: #15

They never tell me in person. Its always in a text after the date so I don't know how to word it.

Post: #16

Grow out your facial hair, dress your age (if you're wearing t-shirts and you're not ripped to fuck or a teenager then you have a problem) and never, ever tell them your age.

Post: #17

I'm not sure I can echo the sentiments of the fellow contributors in this thread.

"You're too young" is not a shit test, it has nothing to do with age, nor does it have anything to do with the women of the age group looking for LTRs.

Dudes need to stop thinking that just because a woman is in relationship mode doesn't mean she isn't down for some fun fucking from time to time. The difference with them is the amount of time they will continue to let it go on.

Post: #18

Dress and act more mature, surround yourself with older-than-you men, educate yourself.

Post: #19

If your dating women in their late 20's, you should be going for first date bangs. Preferably without a first date. That said, its shit test. Your only looking to fuck, and thats probably all she wants from you if she thinks your too young. She recognizes that you have a higher value and is self conscious about her age, so she is rejecting you for a possible relationship, but not necessarily rejecting your as a fuck buddy.

Personally, I try not to schedule dates on days where I have something else coming up afterwards that I absolutely have to go to, so if things are going good on the date I can keep up full court press and get her in bed before she can regroup with her friends and rethink everything. Your mistake is you need to go for the kill, each and every time with these women. 28 year old single women are at a critical point in their lives where they first start realizing their getting old and are just starting to feel the time tick, so they try not to waste much time with guys who they know are out of their league anyway. That just means you have to fuck her before she can think about any of this. The less time you give a woman to think, the more likely she will be to just follow your lead.

The moment you left, she probably called one of her girlfriends, told her how young you were even though you seemed like a great guy, and her friend told her to move on, your probably just looking for sex or something along those lines, and then she texted you back.

But seriously, date younger women.

Post: #20

She texts "I am hot for you, but your too young"

Your response should be something like "Thats exactly what my best friends grandma keeps saying!" in mock frustration.

Basically she is trying to control the frame, and maybe trying to talk herself out of the fact that shes attracted to a younger man. Tell me if her logic makes sense, shes saying "Your too young and youthful. You have too much energy. You will be able to pound me too well." This is when you go for the kill and dominate the frame by re-positioning her ill logical statement, and make her feel the odd one out because shes too old.

Would you say "Man, your one of the hottest milfs Ive ever seen! But, you have too much experiance in bed and I am looking for a dead fish."?

Post: #21

(10-09-2011 10:25 AM)that guy Wrote:  If your dating women in their late 20's, you should be going for first date bangs. Preferably without a first date. That said, its shit test. Your only looking to fuck, and thats probably all she wants from you if she thinks your too young. She recognizes that you have a higher value and is self conscious about her age, so she is rejecting you for a possible relationship, but not necessarily rejecting your as a fuck buddy.

I just ran into this this week, and pretty sure it's very common. Basically, you're getting her wet, but the moment you separate, she's knocked back to her senses, and won't agree to meet up. She knows you just want to fuck, because you move fast and wouldn't date an older chick, so the only reason to meet you is for sex. Some girls will still go if they're into you enough, rationalizing/ignoring the inevitable casual sex that'll go down, and others will acknowledge what's happening and stay away.

This instance, it was a chick I fingered several times after meeting at a bar, but she wouldn't let me in her apartment on the walk home. I *know* if she let me smash that night, we'd still be talking. I think she was mid to late 20s, and I'm early-mid twenties. She said she was a good girl, let's go on a date first, tells me to call her yadda yadda. But when I contact her later, she thinks, "this guy is way too young, he just wants to fuck me, I've never been fingered by a complete stranger in public like that... I can't do this."

I really need to work on my weaseling.

Go for the bang as quickly as you can get it.
Lie about your age.
Keep the interaction relaxed and fun.

Post: #22

I came across this recently. But I think I overplayed it in the opposite direction. I'm 25 but come across older because of my experience and because I have a lot going on in business.

I met this 32 year old hottie at a fashion event and exchanged numbers. We went on a date. We made out during the date; at the end I pushed for the bang. She said she was a good girl, would never fuck on the first date. Meanwhile I'm convinced that this girl has had more cock in her than not in her time. Plenty of slut tells. I let it slide since I'm not in a rush and figured that it was definitely going to be on next time.

Next date she won't let me come to her place again. This is despite us being all over each other for the previous couple of hours. She again says she is a traditional girl. I shrug it off again and decide, after another push, that she's not worth it.

I'm not looking to spend any more energy on this woman.

What's going on is probably that she's in relationship mode and saw me as LTR or even marriage material. Because of this she was on guard and trying to play it right. As Roissy pointed out, girls in this age bracket are some of the toughest: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/08/1...e-bracket/

I think I failed by being too nice and not positioning myself as the asshole who was going to give her a solid rogering? Any tips to avoid this trap or is it inevitable with girls this age if you have your shit together?

Post: #23

(10-09-2011 09:26 AM)jariel Wrote:  Dudes need to stop thinking that just because a woman is in relationship mode doesn't mean she isn't down for some fun fucking from time to time. The difference with them is the amount of time they will continue to let it go on.

Very good observation, Jariel. You can always penetrate/manipulate that psyche after spending some time with the whore.