Post: #1

I went out last night and had a blast. The clubs were full as fuck, so that meant a lot of beautiful girls, but also a lot of different type of girls. I approached a lot during the night, probably 15 sets in total, got some numbers, good conversations and some laughs.

But out of these sets i had 2 very bad interactions, that surprised me badly. I've not experienced girls being this rude before so i didn't know how to deal with the situation.

The first experience i approached 2 girls sitting at a table and talking, one of them was giving me strong eye contact so i took it as an IOI. I went up to them smiled and said hi. One of the girls just gave me the finger and said fuck off. I just looked at her and smiled and said "why?" She said "go away, don't stand here next to us" and turned her face away. I wanted to stand my ground so i said "oh i didn't know you owned this place, i think im just gonna stand here for a while then". Just to piss her off. Stood there for a minute and chatted a friend then thought it's a waste of time and moved on.

The second experience, my friend and i were on the dance floor and saw 2 girls dancing. One of them was a really good dancer and she was beautiful. The music was loud so my friend shouted in my ear "this girl is beautiful, say hello to her". And i think her chubby 3/10 friend heard it and out of nowhere starting to make ugly faces towards us when we approached. She was making the puking gesture with her hand, and i thought this was extremely obnoxious and rude, to be honest never experienced anything more disrespectful than this. We had not even said hello yet.

I just looked at her and said "what's wrong with you?" she said "don't look at my friend that way, go away, you're ugly" i was shocked, but i said "trust me, you're a 3/10 at best and i know you never get this attention from guys, but you don't have to be disgusting about it. You should think about what you're saying before you talk. You're fucking weird". And moved on.

What i have noticed is girls can talk shit and act extremely rude towards you, but as soon as you confront them, they go numb, they go silent, too scared to look you in the eye and talk back. So my question is, what should i do in such situations?

1. Would you just move on and let them have the "ego win" by being disgusting towards you?
2. Would you throw in a comment as i did, and then move on, not waste any more time?
3. Would you stand your ground and defuse the situation?

My friend kept telling me just to take the defeat and leave asap but i find it hard to let girls get away with such disrespectful behaviour. If they are used to beta guys just walking away instead of being confronted with it, they will never stop doing this. I don't want to reward bad behaviour.

Post: #2

(11-03-2018 11:02 AM)chvrches Wrote:  I wanted to stand my ground so i said "oh i didn't know you owned this place, i think im just gonna stand here for a while then". Just to piss her off. Stood there for a minute and chatted a friend then thought it's a waste of time and moved on.

Well that was childish, what was the actual point of that? You achieved nothing.

(11-03-2018 11:02 AM)chvrches Wrote:  I said "trust me, you're a 3/10 at best and i know you never get this attention from guys, but you don't have to be disgusting about it. You should think about what you're saying before you talk. You're fucking weird". And moved on.

Such a beta move.

Honestly, if they're that rude, walk away as you'll lose and I certainly wouldn't be standing around like a creep just to annoy someone, why should I sink to such lows and let them ruin my night?

Post: #3

(11-03-2018 04:58 PM)Bikal Wrote:  

(11-03-2018 11:02 AM)chvrches Wrote:  I wanted to stand my ground so i said "oh i didn't know you owned this place, i think im just gonna stand here for a while then". Just to piss her off. Stood there for a minute and chatted a friend then thought it's a waste of time and moved on.

Well that was childish, what was the actual point of that? You achieved nothing.

(11-03-2018 11:02 AM)chvrches Wrote:  I said "trust me, you're a 3/10 at best and i know you never get this attention from guys, but you don't have to be disgusting about it. You should think about what you're saying before you talk. You're fucking weird". And moved on.

Such a beta move.

Honestly, if they're that rude, walk away as you'll lose and I certainly wouldn't be standing around like a creep just to annoy someone, why should I sink to such lows and let them ruin my night?

I disagree. Taking a stand and making it clear that there are limits to female obnoxiousness towards a man who wishes to flirt isn't the same thing as behaving childishly. How else are women going to learn to respect men if men don't demand that respect from women in the first place?

Post: #4

Don't let it effect you. It's either entitlement from 5/10 and up girls or straight bitterness from uglies. It's getting really bad here in the States in certain places. Be thankful you didn't waste time on them.

Post: #5

(11-03-2018 05:41 PM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  

(11-03-2018 04:58 PM)Bikal Wrote:  

(11-03-2018 11:02 AM)chvrches Wrote:  I wanted to stand my ground so i said "oh i didn't know you owned this place, i think im just gonna stand here for a while then". Just to piss her off. Stood there for a minute and chatted a friend then thought it's a waste of time and moved on.

Well that was childish, what was the actual point of that? You achieved nothing.

(11-03-2018 11:02 AM)chvrches Wrote:  I said "trust me, you're a 3/10 at best and i know you never get this attention from guys, but you don't have to be disgusting about it. You should think about what you're saying before you talk. You're fucking weird". And moved on.

Such a beta move.

Honestly, if they're that rude, walk away as you'll lose and I certainly wouldn't be standing around like a creep just to annoy someone, why should I sink to such lows and let them ruin my night?

I disagree. Taking a stand and making it clear that there are limits to female obnoxiousness towards a man who wishes to flirt isn't the same thing as behaving childishly. How else are women going to learn to respect men if men don't demand that respect from women in the first place?

Totally agree. Setting boundary and calling them on their BS is important .
But don't do it in a bitter way or you will come across as Butthurt

Post: #6

(11-03-2018 11:02 AM)chvrches Wrote:  I approached a lot during the night, probably 15 sets in total

15x with no bang sounds a bit desperate, I'd say choose more wisely.

Post: #7

It's kind of irrelevant. If a girl is super rude like that (ps - I meet a fair few of these girls. I think a result of living in the UK and a fairly 'chavy' area. If you aren't her 'type' then lots of them are like ''Yeah, go away. Not interested. Bye!!'' kind of thing) then she's a hard 'no girl' and nothing you say is gonna get her into bed, so it's best to just laugh and walk away and try your luck with a different girl, I guess. I know sometimes it is tempting to be rude back to her though lol.

Post: #8

You achieve nothing by being rude back to a girl, because all she will do is laugh at you, tell her friends at brunch the next morning about "some loser", and you accomplish nothing. Some girls are rude upfront as a test, I've dealt with many that turned into the sweetest girls on the first date and apologized for their behavior as a way to screen out creeps and losers. I usually agree and amplify with these types, unless she's essentially telling me to fuck off, then I just walk away with a smirk. This doesn't really happen too often anymore however.

As you socially calibrate, you understand when someone is truly being rude or doing so as a test, and you can decide if there is any value in sticking around.

Post: #9

If you're approching someone in a socially calibrated way and she behaves obnoxiously then it's her problem, not yours.

Whenever stuff like this happens with girls or in everday life, I just laugh it off. The reality is that she's the moody wierdo in this scenario.

Treat her the same way you would some schizophrenic homeless dude. If you meet a crazy tramp on the street who begins screaming obscenities would you get into an argument with him?

Post: #10

I recommend day game because women are just more polite at that time and when they're not drinking it's more rare to encounter such rude behavior. In my opinion day game makes the game more fun because senarios such as you described effect my night, but then again the only reason I go to the club is to look for girls so perhaps my goal driven attitude there stops me from having fun.

Post: #11

The reality is that our ego gets hurt and we don't want to look like we lose face. But ultimately, and as others have mentioned, it's those girls that have an issue.

In order of likelihood based on my character and my mood on a given night I would:
1) Give a sarcastic comment like "Oh and I thought you were the one" and walk away.
2) Rebuke her with something in line of "Those are not good manners. And it's not smart either, I could be your future boss."
3) Go nuclear like you did on the second scenario.

But really, it's all just to make your ego feel better. I mean, any second spent on girls like that is a waste of a second. Plus it's likely it will affect you for the rest of the night. You want to let it go as soon as possible and not dedicating a thought on it is the best way.

Post: #12

But, other than that...

If I was in your position, I wouldn't engage with these girls after they say (insert whatever bitchy comment here). Unless it is an obvious shit test, I would just move on.

Also, I would consider changing my game type (night vs. day, etc.) or modifying my venue selection if one or both of the following became issues:

1) The rejection - even if only 10% of the girls - was screwing with my head/inner game enough to mess up future approaches, or,
2) The hard rejection rate was high enough (over 50% maybe?) that I started to think that the venue or city or country was polluted beyond salvation.

Post: #13

I wouldn't even call those "very bad reactions" during night game. Don't forget that you're dealing with drunk cunts who have all sorts of issues going on so the last thing you should do is take it personally.

Anyway, double check for bitch shield and if the bad behaviour continues just walk away ASAP in case they blow it out of proportion and it turns ugly.

...but throwing in a *funny* comment (emphasis on funny, not vengeful) to amuse *yourself* is perfectly fine. Who gives a shit at this stage, at least you can get a laugh out of the situation rather than be upset.

Post: #14

Take nothing personal after 11pm when alcohol and other drugs are likely involved w/ women.

Post: #15

I would never go for the "you are ugly/fat anyway" since it's what majority of betas/ego maniacs do. That's weak game.


1. If she is alone I would try more direct style as I have nothing to lose and there is a possibility of her just shit testing you.

Me: oh, you are so rude, you should get spanked like a bad girl you are.
Her: *bitching*
Me: *grabs her arm* Stop playing hard to get, I know you love me.
Her: *bitching*
Me: I see you like it rough, I take it as a challenge. I love aggressive girls, they are amazing in bed.


2. If she is with her friends, open the group and make them qualify her

Me: Is she always rude like this? / Why do you hang out with this angy person? (is this how people here treat foreigners? - if you are foreigner, this works better in places like asia etc. where people are more proud of their culture)
Them: No she is just in a bad mood (they dont wanna look bad because of her attitude)
Me: Oh well, but you guys look cool, I'm gonna talk to you then. I think she likes me but for now is playing hard to get *smirk*

If they laugh you basically made her look like a bitch to the whole group and she might even do 360 and start to qualify herself/apologize.

Or bounce if her friends are weird.