Post: #26

(11-03-2018 09:36 AM)Jetset Wrote:  [quote='Humpty Pump n Dumpty' pid='1879898' dateline='1541254938']

Privacy, in my opinion, is one of the best ways to protect the heat in a long-term relationship. It's always amazing to me how telling the LTR to fuck off with personal questions results in her telling me she feels close to me and like we have a great relationship.

I will try this in my next relationship (right now I am just looking for casual sex after my divorce).

I believe moving in together is one of the quickest ways to kill intimacy. Just too much mundane stuff and once you've seen each other on the can it's just hard to feel attracted.

Better to live apart (added benefits of easier breakup). Unless you have kids, there is really no reason to live together.

Post: #27

How do you guys feel about having an “alpha” woman?

I’ve gotten sick and tired of dealing with attractive, but useless women. I don’t need anyone to cook or clean for me. Would be nice to have a girl capable of intellectual discussion or some useful skills/knowledge.

Not sure I want some power, career lady though. I’d imagine it’s a headache. I do get jealous of friends stateside who date girls who always pay for themselves, often treat him, can drive, have real hobbies, etc.

Post: #28

(11-03-2018 05:10 AM)BadBoyGamer Wrote:  "Alpha Fux, Beta Bux" explains everything. And only in four words.

Post: #29

(11-09-2018 12:27 AM)Ten Feet Tall Right Now Wrote:  How do you guys feel about having an “alpha” woman?

I’ve gotten sick and tired of dealing with attractive, but useless women. I don’t need anyone to cook or clean for me. Would be nice to have a girl capable of intellectual discussion or some useful skills/knowledge.

Not sure I want some power, career lady though. I’d imagine it’s a headache. I do get jealous of friends stateside who date girls who always pay for themselves, often treat him, can drive, have real hobbies, etc.

My ex wife was super alpha. That was part of her appeal but I turned into a beta myself, also because she was extremely needy emotionally and used me to listen to her work crap for hours (this also ate into my sleeping which affected my own work). Recently went on a date with a hot lawyer but bailed as I got a similar vibe. Will work on myself to be stronger. Definitely want a girl that has her stuff together but not sure if super alpha is the way to go.

Before I got married I briefly dated a woman that was quite successful in her job but quite submissive with me. I think that's probably ideal and what I will aim for going forward.

Post: #30

(11-09-2018 12:09 AM)OM88 Wrote:  

(11-03-2018 09:36 AM)Jetset Wrote:  [quote='Humpty Pump n Dumpty' pid='1879898' dateline='1541254938']

That is a pretty optimistic view of the sex life of a married beta. Studies have suggested that it's anywhere from once a week (optimistic) to once a month for the majority of married couples.

On the other hand, my anecdotal experience with married women has been that once they find an exciting outside partner, they'll drop by his place to bang him 2-8 times a day if they can get away with it, even while scouting new partners.

No matter how hot she is and how eager her beta husband might be, once she loses respect for him, she will always be grossed out by sex with him and find ways to avoid it. The first test is commonly when she tries to stop sucking dick.

THIS was my own experience. Ex-wife stopped giving BJs and sex was a few times a year. Also only missionary as doggie suddenly was 'demeaning'.
I allowed her to take away my balls and this was the consequence. I will never let this happen again.
My other married friends also don't get much action after a few years (and definitely not after kids).

This is why I think if you have the luxury, you need to be in a relationship with and live closely with someone for at least 2-3 years (ideally 4 or 5 though) before you get married or have kids. Either that, or screen, challenge and red flag check her super hard

You'll get a good idea of what her true personality and nature is like generally and within a relationship

I think it's important to look for a girl that wants to put time into the relationship itself - growing it, developing it, maintaining it

You probably also want to screen against a woman that wants kids desperately (so you can get an idea of whether she will completely drop you for the kids once they comes), and a woman that isn't too easily affected by social issues and movements (so you don't get the 'that's demeaning' behavior)

But, I don't think there's much more you can do after that

If she changes after marriage and kids - that's a risk you take

Post: #31

The first 20 minutes or so of this video is a good discussion on the different types of males, how you can transition yourself between different types of males as you age (alpha, beta, delta, gamma etc.), and how females see the different types of men:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOabP3ur7bY

Post: #32

It's always important to remember that many of manosphere guys (including some gurus) who chant "hypergamy, alpha, lookism!!!!" etc. on a daily basis suffer from a condition known as Too Much Red Pill, Not Enough Game.

In real life, many of the seemingly beta guys you observe with beautiful women are not as beta as you think they are, and they also have, either accidentally, situationally or purposefully, more Game than you, even if they can't tell what the hell are these goofy sounding Red Pill concepts.

Post: #33

Strikeback

Redpill concepts are used as a utility to explain game. Game is like natural law, it exists whether its observed critiqued or what have you.

Anybody who knows game well knows there's a lot of different angles and situations aren't black and white they're actually complex shades of grey. There's a lot of shit going around lately where people are saying game is becoming less effective and I dont buy it. I think people saying that are spending too much time poaching 5-low8s online and not putting real work in the wild.

Post: #34

Quote:I think people saying that are spending too much time poaching 5-low8s online and not putting real work in the wild.

I think they're spending too much time theorizing, quoting stats on the Internet with equally unsuccessful guys and not putting enough work in the field.

I've been into many things in my life, from sports to arts to my own profession and businesses, and I've seen so many who know all the concepts and can debate endlessly but can't accomplish anything because they simply can't execute. It's like learning how to box from Youtube / cable TV vs getting in the ring.

At the end of the day, if some seemingly beta Blue Pill guy (he might not be, it could be you that read him wrong) is more successful with women than you are, maybe your Red Pill and your Game aren't as good and correct as you believe them to be. By you, I mean a general /you/.

Post: #35

(11-12-2018 10:43 PM)StrikeBack Wrote:  It's always important to remember that many of manosphere guys (including some gurus) who chant "hypergamy, alpha, lookism!!!!" etc. on a daily basis suffer from a condition known as Too Much Red Pill, Not Enough Game.

In real life, many of the seemingly beta guys you observe with beautiful women are not as beta as you think they are, and they also have, either accidentally, situationally or purposefully, more Game than you, even if they can't tell what the hell are these goofy sounding Red Pill concepts.

Agree on the first part for sure.

In regards to your second paragraph - I'd say if you are talking about the average man - it's definitely not most beta guys that have more game. I'd say 9 times out of 10 (from my experience with the guys I know or see) it's simply because he's willing to put up with more of her negative behavior and he does more for her (rightly or wrongly) than the next guy. That, combined with timing - he meets her at the right time she's ready to get with someone.

If you are a guy that has a decent grasp of game and red pill, and you can see in grey and not just black and white - the last thing you have to decide for yourself is what you're going to tolerate from a woman in a relationship.

You can lose out to a beta because he's willing to tolerate more than you are, and do more than you are.

It's a slippery slope.

I do think with the way society is currently set up, you can't ignore that access to women is at an all time high, and men are competing more than ever.

That's part of the environment we are in.

Is it an excuse? No.

But, all men at some point are going to have to figure out for themselves realistically what sort of woman they think they can get (value, and values wise), and what they are willing to tolerate from that woman to make a long term relationship work.

Post: #36

(11-13-2018 12:15 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  

Quote:I think people saying that are spending too much time poaching 5-low8s online and not putting real work in the wild.

I think they're spending too much time theorizing, quoting stats on the Internet with equally unsuccessful guys and not putting enough work in the field.

I've been into many things in my life, from sports to arts to my own profession and businesses, and I've seen so many who know all the concepts and can debate endlessly but can't accomplish anything because they simply can't execute. It's like learning how to box from Youtube / cable TV vs getting in the ring.

At the end of the day, if some seemingly beta Blue Pill guy (he might not be, it could be you that read him wrong) is more successful with women than you are, maybe your Red Pill and your Game aren't as good and correct as you believe them to be. By you, I mean a general /you/.

Agree on those first two paragraphs.