Post: #276

(10-27-2017 07:58 PM)Incubus Wrote:  Hope it makes sense.

I would pay so much to have that exact problem that you have, Incubus.

Post: #277

@Mikado maybe you would or maybe you wouldn't

I've gone FACE BLIND which is what I call it anyways. I can't read people's faces nor did I care to.

Is it a disadvantage to attractive guys? Not when your young it only becomes an issue when a guy gets older

There's a ton of "face test's" out there on the web which I do once in a while. Actually if you get a low score on some tests it gives diagnosis's of possible reasons for your score....some are mental disorders (bi polar)...so it gets scary

Google this test is doesn't scare people with results just gives a score. "Social Intelligence Test" from Lab in the Wild I just did it (74%) not bad. It's important to note the TEST asks what country your from....which I assume my country culture sucks "Canada" where as Italy or Spain guys will do well.

I guess when the ladies decided talking didn't matter or getting to know them didn't matter or who they where didn't matter it has the desired affect on the attractive guys. They don't care who is in front of them. Genuine interest in people suffers and that's what the world is about.
Humans like social interaction

Lets not forget the energy put into having a great time with the girls isn't there. The need to read books or do whatever to be more interesting isn't there or at a low level.

So who wins long term the tortoise or the hare? Meaning the average guy is probably "ON" all the time. Appreciates the game and the hunt and always hungry
Reads Faces
Body Language
Charming and witty
Watches social ques
Interesting
High Energy
Presents himself well, good conversationalist
Resourceful, flexible, spins on a dime,sharp
Sensitive to other humans(lmao)
Always a Work in Progress

So no Mikado the old adage applies Be grateful for who you are.

I'm just glad I caught the byproduct of easy street and perhaps can rejoin the human race (if that makes sense)

Post: #278

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Post: #279

I wish I was good looking

Post: #280

As someone thats been on both sides I can say that it's not so much advantage/disadvantage as much as the game you need to use changes pretty drastically if females consider you to be a generally attractive dude. You have to deal with WAY more self-doubt on females part b/c for as much as they put on a front of being so confident and able to deal well with guys, it's almost shocking how rambly, fumbly, awkward and shy they become in a good looking guys presence.

The number one question in her mind will be "Why her?", when she assumes you could have any other woman in the room. So having anything less than full conviction in your approach and the willingness to carry the interaction until she can start speaking in complete sentences can easily become a disadvantage. As you seem to run them off when you are too laid back or are waiting/hoping she engages in the interaction early on.

Some other disadvantages or potential disadvantages I can think of:
-Guys won't want you anywhere near their girlfriends or even girls they're "working on"
-Females will be even less willing or forthcoming about their situations if she feels she has any chance with you. Married/engaged/baby daddies ect.
-Will be assumed to be a player simply based on your appearance


One other thing I'd say is that being good looking doesn't necessarily get you any closer to the hottest chicks as what I've seen is that they're more inclined to want to simply get the best deal in terms of a guy who's offering up the most resources and willing to be the best doormat for her in a LTR, and if they do decide to fuck on the side that will be when they become more concerned with looks.

Post: #281

Being good looking is hard work. An advantage of being unattractive is that you dont have to work as hard to be good looking. You dont have to go to the gym, dont have to shop for expensive clothes. You dont have to spend money on skin care, tooth care. You can eat want you want. You can afford to be a fat slob and a couch potato.

Post: #282

(10-28-2017 01:11 PM)JoeSea Wrote:  As someone thats been on both sides

Interesting comment - how did you manage to experience both sides?

Post: #283

(10-28-2017 03:56 PM)Cane Toad Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 01:11 PM)JoeSea Wrote:  As someone thats been on both sides

Interesting comment - how did you manage to experience both sides?

Going from grinding it out like everyone else to finally getting my shit together working out and eating right. Then things got much easier.

Post: #284

Someone should put the name of this thread on this book:

Post: #285

The only real disadvantage I can imagine a good looking guy having is being over-reliant on looks in youth, and when those looks fade for whatever reason, being completely unable to interact with younger women who now see themselves as better than you. If they aren't extroverted and set in their ways, that would seem like a difficult transition to make later in life. I'd also imagine aging is much more difficult to deal with and noticeable for someone who once regularly had access to the hottest women.

Post: #286

I've been in both sides too. I was very thin as a teenager and different parts of my face developed at different times, while my friends got their "man faces" way earlier. I could never get the girls I wanted and ended up being "chosen" by girls I didn't really want to fuck/date. Then I got into a couple of long-term relationships and I didn't have a clue of my attraction value, until, at 29, I moved to Europe and started properly working out. I still remember the first time I directly approached a girl who looked at me weird and said "you think that because you're so attractive you can have anything you like eh?" It was a shock.

Since then, and along these years, I've realized I am indeed good looking, especially to Eastern European girls who like the dark, exotic look (in Argentina, for example, I'm a solid 5). I'm not going to say I'm a 10, far from it, but an 8 who has developed a lot of confidence because of his looks and knows game. Very seldom I don't end up with the girl I'm attracted to (in a peer group, not cold approaches) and I usually act in consequence. I have two or three friends who are more or less the same, and have similar experiences. All this said, however, when there's a REALLY attractive guy around, I stand no chance. The best players I've ever seen are male models who are not gay. It's not even close, you just have to breath deep and take what remains. And they also have game, not because they learned in a forum or a book like we did but because they have A LOT more experience with women and don't really give a shit about them or what they do.

There's no real disadvantages to being good looking. You can usually work around girls who think you're a player and even if you don't, you know you can pick up another one without breaking too much sweat. If anything, it makes you pickier and makes it harder to get girls you don't actually feel really attracted to, but a few drinks also help with that. Not to talk about LTR's, you want the hot girls and they're usually crazier and have a lot of guys around them, and that's extremely taxing for them and for you. But I'd be lying if I'd said that's a disadvantage. If you wished so, you could settle for a less attractive one and live a sedentary life. It's just that for me is not easy.

I really say this with no false modesty, I'm 40 now and feel my attractiveness window is closing, I'm getting a pouch and some gray hairs. I still get away with the "I'm 29" thing in clubs and still manage to date girls in their early 20's but it's not going to last long and then the pendulum will swing again to the other side. That's why even if you're attractive you need game.

Ah! And working out is a must. When I actually started banging and dating the really hot girls was after I bulked up. Before, I thought I was getting the best I could but I was nowhere near. Dressing well also helps a lot. Ugly girls have it hard, ugly guys can get away with a lot more by putting more effort.

Peace out

(10-28-2017 01:11 PM)JoeSea Wrote:  As someone thats been on both sides I can say that it's not so much advantage/disadvantage as much as the game you need to use changes pretty drastically if females consider you to be a generally attractive dude. You have to deal with WAY more self-doubt on females part b/c for as much as they put on a front of being so confident and able to deal well with guys, it's almost shocking how rambly, fumbly, awkward and shy they become in a good looking guys presence.

The number one question in her mind will be "Why her?", when she assumes you could have any other woman in the room. So having anything less than full conviction in your approach and the willingness to carry the interaction until she can start speaking in complete sentences can easily become a disadvantage. As you seem to run them off when you are too laid back or are waiting/hoping she engages in the interaction early on.

Some other disadvantages or potential disadvantages I can think of:
-Guys won't want you anywhere near their girlfriends or even girls they're "working on"
-Females will be even less willing or forthcoming about their situations if she feels she has any chance with you. Married/engaged/baby daddies ect.
-Will be assumed to be a player simply based on your appearance


One other thing I'd say is that being good looking doesn't necessarily get you any closer to the hottest chicks as what I've seen is that they're more inclined to want to simply get the best deal in terms of a guy who's offering up the most resources and willing to be the best doormat for her in a LTR, and if they do decide to fuck on the side that will be when they become more concerned with looks.

Post: #287

Here's one: gay guys just flock to you like moths to the flame.

Post: #288

Mostly none

Post: #289

(10-24-2017 09:09 AM)Fortis Wrote:  I'd say one disadvantage is that girls sometimes assume you're out of their league.

How can this be a problem if you do the approaching part?

Whining about the good look sounds like an ego issue - "why should I approach, let girls do the work" mindset.

Post: #290

Hot girls don't go for the hottest guys for LTR. They want a guy they can manage.


If you're a very good looking guy and want to sleep around then you have almost no problems, but if you want a girlfriend, well, you won't find one. All the hot girls I've dated currently have boyfriends that are less attractive, and it seems to be going well for them. Most girls want to be your manger and control your life while in LTR and they're jealous like you can't believe. They've seemingly lost the art of being women.

Post: #291

Or you can be a good looking guy and have a girlfriend/wife because there isn't a divine rule that mathematically dictates you can't have an LTR once you're past point X in the attractiveness spectrum?

Post: #292

(11-05-2017 01:31 PM)musampa Wrote:  

(10-24-2017 09:09 AM)Fortis Wrote:  I'd say one disadvantage is that girls sometimes assume you're out of their league.

How can this be a problem if you do the approaching part?

Whining about the good look sounds like an ego issue - "why should I approach, let girls do the work" mindset.

Because you're fighting an uphill battle, even if your game is razor sharp.

Sure, all women (even fatties) say they deserve a good looking, 6 pack, 6'5, 8 inch cock, wealthy man. But that is just current feminism and her hog friends pumping this shit into her brain. They even display this behavior on the dating apps. The constant validation they receive from social media feeds this superfluous ego.

However when it's game time, and she is sitting across from you in a more intimate setting....evolutionary impulses override this false "I deserve the perfect man" fluff. Her hamster resets her brain to her low self esteem default state and she starts to doubt herself and second guess your true intentions for speaking to her. She probably thinks something like "A man this good looking couldn't possibly be interested in me. I'm so ugly, blah blah blah".

That's why having a strong comfort game for a good looking guy is so important. You have to soothe her hamster and get her to believe you're actually interested.

Sometimes you'll catch a girl that just wants to fuck, and she'll bang you based solely on your physical appearance with little or no gaming on your end. But in the back of her mind she'll know (or think) you really aren't interested in HER. I think it's pretty common knowledge that most females naturally have low self esteem. This can be either an advantage or disadvantage on how you play on that. In the end, it's all about how you make them FEEL.

Post: #293

(11-08-2017 06:27 AM)Elster Wrote:  Or you can be a good looking guy and have a girlfriend/wife because there isn't a divine rule that mathematically dictates you can't have an LTR once you're past point X in the attractiveness spectrum?

At the end of the day, looks are an asset just like game is, and women like to have power over their SO in LTR, so you need to find a very confident women that thinks she can handle you.

They are rare, very rare.

Post: #294

Theres absolutely NO disanvandtage of being attractive people here talk shit big time I just canr believe what I read and all the situations mentionned have nothing to do with looks but thinking its looks while its your attitude or something else its a big mistake. Being handsome will just get you more beautiful women wich is a good thing and if you acg lile an asshole or superficial youre surely get whats coming with this but uf you act cool with respect you woudnlt have any problems of any kind and YESS maybe sometimes you can face some bad things but that can happen to anybody. Anyway im very surprise about the amount of bullshit I read here

Post: #295

I consider myself a pretty good looking guy. I’ll tell you right now that the biggest disadvantage is good looking bloaks don’t truly recognize their potential cuz they’re pussies. I hang with other good looking men, not on purpose just worked out that way, but my boys rarely approach. They all look for eye contact and various other forms of choosing signals. Me I’m like a running back gifted with natural talent but also constantly works on his game, his body and his mind. The homeys have no idea how much pussy they are leaving on the table. I have a good looking wealthy buddy with a Ferrari and he almost never tries. He just wants to be chose, but again with him too he’s leaving pussy on the table.

Post: #296

(11-08-2017 10:48 AM)[email protected] Wrote:  Sure, all women (even fatties) say they deserve a good looking, 6 pack, 6'5, 8 inch cock, wealthy man. But that is just current feminism and her hog friends pumping this shit into her brain. They even display this behavior on the dating apps. The constant validation they receive from social media feeds this superfluous ego.

However when it's game time, and she is sitting across from you in a more intimate setting....evolutionary impulses override this false "I deserve the perfect man" fluff. Her hamster resets her brain to her low self esteem default state and she starts to doubt herself and second guess your true intentions for speaking to her. She probably thinks something like "A man this good looking couldn't possibly be interested in me. I'm so ugly, blah blah blah".

I find this is definitely the case. I would actually go one further. In my experience if you game or get sexy with a girl who's below you, maybe because you're horny or she has a likable personality, she frequently tends to think you're slumming it and cheapening yourself, and her image of you will drop. She had you on a pedestal and by gaming her lowly self, you diminished your value in her eyes.

Post: #297

This thread is hysterical...

All the problems discussed here can easily happen to any decent looking guy.

You can never be too good looking, as long as you have the masculinity to back it up. If you’re already decent looking, you would lose nothing by being better looking, yet gain access to women you wouldn’t get close to otherwise—for short, but especially for long term—as women today value beauty more than ever.

Good looks are infinitely more valuable than money and fame, the only thing coming close being mental and emotional strength.

As an ugly duckling I assure everyone that looks open doors that no other faculty can open.

Post: #298

Being good looking can help you get in the door but it's absolutely not 'easy mode' (fame game is the closest thing to 'easy mode'). It's still a numbers game that requires skill and persistence.
Women love to reject men and are masters of wasting their time, especially good looking men who they know won't likely stick around.

From what I've witnessed, more so than facial structure or sense of style- the biggest physical advantage for men is height (significantly above average, 6'2"+).

Post: #299

Disadvantages for good looking guys? NONE, zero, nada.
Finding problems with it is either a mind jerk or a kind of hidden way of bragging...which is pitiful.

Post: #300

(09-21-2018 11:02 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  Disadvantages for good looking guys? NONE, zero, nada.
Finding problems with it is either a mind jerk or a kind of hidden way of bragging...which is pitiful.

Nah bro. Im good looking objectively, but EXTREMELY good looking guys rest too much on the laurels. Take Nick Bateman's girl for example, I can get bitch like that off tinder and smash im sure in under a week if not the same day if her schedule allows. Super good looking guys often don't get super good looking women because a lot of them are pussies and want to be chose all the time. Not leveraging their potential is a negative with guys like that, which is why they often endup with less than impressive women.